Re: Enough Already!!

["Collins" <collinsclan@sprintmail.com>]

>Am I the only one out there who could care less if 'looping catches on'?
>


I'll second that.

>As long as there is ,at least ,adequate technology in the field I'm happy.
>
>Right now there is more than enough devices for looping.
>
>What's the problem?


It's that the lower costing ones don't deliver stereo samples. Isn't that
right everybody?

>You wan't to make a living off of it?
>
>Unless your sexier than the Back street boys, or can shake your ass better
>than Will Smith, or have better outfits than the Spice Girls, or can 
>insult
>more people than Manson it's probably not going to happen.
>


Or you're David Torn, Robert Fripp, Adrian Belew, E#, and a few select
others.

>I have never expected to live off of the music I make.....
>First of all I make it for myself(or whoever im working with)and share it
with
>friends or people who are GENUINLY interested in it.
>
>Second of all, when dealing with 'avant-garde' music , or whatever that
means,
>one cannot expect 'the masses' , or whatever that means, to greet it with
open
>arms, at least in the US.
>


You've got that one right. The only parts of the US that you can get good
avant-garde music is NYC. Other than that you have to go to Toronto or
France, Germany, or England.

>Also, what is all of this nonsense about wanting looping to considered a
>legitimate instrument.
>By who?
>Do all of you need society to tell you it's 'ok' to use that shinny box?
>


That's very, very true. I'm purposely bringing myself into sub-commercial
music on purpose. Even though i barely use looping.

>And what is all of that other nonsense tying 'real instruments' to 
>physical
>techniques?
>We only need to go through some physical medium(i.e. guitar player moving
his
>fingers and hands about)because there is no better way.
>If it were possible(on probably will be in not too long)we won't even need
an
>instrument, at least in the traditional sense of the word.
>It would all happen upstairs, if thats what one wants.
>


Well, that can already happen with everything coming out of your brain. 
It's
incredibly hard to control. Which is kinda like life. But i do like looped
REAL instruments (like percussion, and other instruments.)

>I think all of you(I'm addressing the ones who sent the mail {I dont want
to
>throw a blanket statement out there on all of you})are overly conserned
with
>being accpeted by society, your peers, consumers, 'musicians'...etc.....
>


You're right again.

>We are all artists(in one medium or another, or multiple ones).
>Most of us deal with sound, again, whatever that means
>But it is art nonethe less
>
>I leave you all with a few quotes that I like
>
>"Art, if you want a definition of it, is criminal action. It conforms to 
>no
>rules. Not even its own.  Anyone who experiences a work of art is as 
>guilty
as
>the artist. It is not a question of sharing the guilt.  Each one of us 
>gets
>all of it."  John Cage
>

Cage was, is, and will always be a genius. He was the complete
non-conformist. He wouldn't even let his music conform itself to what Cage
originally thought for the concept of the piece.

I think that if you do want more commercial success. you should be out 
there
making a name for yourself, instead of talking to all of us who are out
there either really putting ourselves up for hire, or just to make a little
bit of enjoyment for themselves with music.

Learn how to promote yourself...that should get you some more gigs.

Sincerely,
Jeff Collins