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Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V00 #75



stop sending me shit!!!!!!!!


On Fri, 10 Mar 2000 13:53:16 -0500, Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com wrote:

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>  Loopers-Delight-d Digest                             Volume 00 : Issue 
>75
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>  Today's Topics:
>    Not Interesting...                    [ "David Potter"
<papadave55@hotmail. ]
>    Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V00 #73  [ "Larry Tremblay"
<ltct@concentric.n ]
>    Re: dl4 = midi                        [ "b.knox"
<b.knox@latrobe.edu.au> ]
>    Re: dl4 = midi                        [ George Van Wagner
<vanwag@earthlink ]
>    Re: dl4 = midi                        [ Rich <rich@nuvision.com> ]
>    Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V00 #74  [ KRosser414@aol.com ]
>    Re: Interesting...                    [ dan mcmullen <dog@well.com> ]
>    Re: OT (or maybe not) National Endow  [ Hawkeye255@aol.com ]
>    Re: re Ineresting...                  [ Hawkeye255@aol.com ]
>    Re: mpx1 vs. mpx 500                  [ SoundFNR@aol.com ]
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>  Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 06:37:15 PST
>  From: "David Potter" <papadave55@hotmail.com>
>  To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
>  Subject: Not Interesting...
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>  ZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.........................
>  
>  >From: "Larry Tremblay" <ltct@concentric.net>
>  >Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
>  >To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
>  >Subject: Re: Interesting...
>  >Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2000 20:09:39 -0500
>  >
>  > >
>  > > LOL. Yep, sure does. That was the point. I'm not *totally*
>  > > insulated from the irony of my own statements, you know.
>  > >
>  > >
>  > > ** okay. i guess the problem is that you come off that way . . .
while
>  > > possibly not allowing others that latitude.
>  >
>  >I'm lightening up a bit. The slack it out.
>  >
>  > > True, there's no definitive "proof" per se, only shades of 
>  >understanding,
>  > > given the complexity of the subject under study - the human brain. 
>;)
>  > >
>  > > ** or the universe? i think that it may be easier to understand the 
>  >human
>  > > brain that it is the universe around us . . .
>  >
>  >Hard to say really. The brain is a 3-pound universe all its own.
>  >At least the universe is 'out there' for us to study, whereas the
>  >study of the brain is a seriously recursive [like looping] and
>  >unimaginably complex endeavor. Not uncrackable, but difficult, to
>  >say the least.
>  >
>  > > by the way, have you noticed how string theory seems to be
approaching
>  >some
>  > > of the mystical traditions? i also seem to recall that many
physicists
>  >have
>  > > been ardently religious . . . (not that i am, mind you)
>  >
>  >Yes, I've read and studied most of the literature on the subject of
>  >Super-string theory (or so-called 'theory of everything'), and it
>  >appears to approximate (at times) the mystical speculations of a
>  >'hidden reality' or 'other planes of existence'-type stuff.
>  >
>  >The jury is most definitely out on that one. The magnitude of the
>  >gulf between matter at the sub-atomic particle level versus what
>  >we experience our own macro-atomic (i.e., molecular) level is vast
>  >indeed. It's almost like two different worlds - and for all practical
>  >purposes, they are.
>  >
>  >As I understand it, quantum events have no "real" effect at the macro
>  >level due to the strong forces of the molecules that make up our bodies
>  >and the 'hard matter' world around us. Otherwise, things would be 
>flying
>  >apart all over the place. (Given there was a place to begin with.)
>  >
>  >True, *some* scientists are religious, but most are either agnostic or
>  >devote atheists like Carl Sagan and Einstein (despite his protests 
>about
>  >not believing that "God plays dice", in regards to Quantum Mechanics).
>  >
>  >The great thing about science versus religion is that the future is
>  >always open, and that all theories must continually hold up under
>  >intense scrutinity. On the otherhand, religion is a closed book,
>  >it's dogma rarely (if ever) open to questioning and revision.
>  >
>  >- Larry
>  >
>  >
>  
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>  Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 09:43:19 -0500
>  From: "Larry Tremblay" <ltct@concentric.net>
>  To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
>  Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V00 #73
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>  > There is no clash between thought and feeling, any apparent 
>  > clash betwwen the two iis really a clash between two 
>  > contradicting ideas. So, if you have a feeling that seems 
>  > irrational, it's really your ideas that are irrational.
>  
>  Thanks Dan. I couldn't have said it better. Ayn Rand's 
>  philosophy has had a great influence on my own thinking, 
>  too. Her essay, "Art and Cognition" in her book "The 
>  Romantic Manifesto" is what led me to Helmholtz, and 
>  subsequently, a whole new world of music and aesthetics.
>  
>  - Larry
>  
>  
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: "Dan Koontz" <DanKoontz@webtv.net>
>  To: <Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com>
>  Sent: Friday, March 10, 2000 6:52 AM
>  Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V00 #73
>  
>  
>  > First of all, rationality and irrationality are mutually exclusive. 
>You
>  > either choose to validate your ideas (through a process of reason),and
>  > be rational; or choose to follow whatever makes you feel good and is
>  > conveniant.  The senses (percepts) are valid, they are automatic
>  > reactions to the external world. Your senses never lie, the error
occurs
>  > when a person takes percepts and forms incorrect (invalid) concepts. A
>  > good example of this would be the illusion of the broken-stick in
water.
>  > The senses are totaly reliable in that they don't censor the light
>  > coming to your eyes at different speeds. I you were to conclude that
the
>  > stick was really bent, that would be an error of thought (conceptual),
>  > not yor senses (perceptual).  Love is not an "irrational feeling".
Love,
>  > like all feelings or emotions are a value judgement formed by one's
>  > ideas.  All emotions derive from the content of one's mind. If you won
a
>  > million dollars, would you feel happy, or sad and dejected? You would
>  > feel happy, because those million dollars would be of value to you.
>  > There is no clash between thought and feeling, any apparent clash
>  > betwwen the two iis really a clash between two contradicting ideas. 
>So,
>  > if you have a feeling that seems irrational, it's really your ideas
that
>  > are irrational. I strongly suggest you look into Objectivism, the
>  > philosophy of Ayn Rand. 
>  > 
>  > Cheers,   - Dan
>  > 
>  > 
>  Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 02:44:11 +1100
>  From: "b.knox" <b.knox@latrobe.edu.au>
>  To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
>  Subject: Re: dl4 = midi
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>  Dan Koontz wrote:
>  > 
>  > I heard about someone thinking about modifying a dl4. A suggestion I
>  > would have is to try circuit-bending it. If you're not familiar with
>  > this, go to your favorite search engine and look up "Reed Ghazala", or
>  > "circuit bending". I've modified lots of cheap toys using this and 
>have
>  > come upon some amaaazing sounds!
>  > Hope this is could beof some value to you,
>  >                                       - Dan
>  
>  hi Dan,
>  
>  on the subject on circuit bending ... just picked up a ye olde mattel(!)
>  synsonics drum machine ... molto fun as is, but has this been a cheap
>  toy you've bent?  any pointers?   
>  
>  lurv that white noise "cymbal" sound :)
>  
>  brad
>  Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 07:58:21 -0800
>  From: George Van Wagner <vanwag@earthlink.net>
>  To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
>  Subject: Re: dl4 = midi
>  Message-ID: <38C91B9B.F9EFA3B3@earthlink.net>
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>  Remember that pretty much everything that's going on in the DL4 is
>  happening in the digital world, and the signal goes directly from the
>  DAC to the output op amp, so, as interesting as Reed's 'anti-theory' is,
>  I don't think you'll make much headway on this particular piece of gear.
>  
>  George
>  
>  Dan Koontz wrote:
>  > 
>  > I heard about someone thinking about modifying a dl4. A suggestion I
>  > would have is to try circuit-bending it. If you're not familiar with
>  > this, go to your favorite search engine and look up "Reed Ghazala", or
>  > "circuit bending". I've modified lots of cheap toys using this and 
>have
>  > come upon some amaaazing sounds!
>  > Hope this is could beof some value to you,
>  >                                       - Dan
>  Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 08:06:35 -0800
>  From: Rich <rich@nuvision.com>
>  To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
>  Subject: Re: dl4 = midi 
>  Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000310080635.008bea40@pop3.argotech.net>
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>  
>  I'm definitely not the guy to say yes or no to such a proposition, since
i
>  am definitely an end 'user'.  However, since Line6's POD, AX2 and (i
>  believe) the Flextone all have pretty good midi implementation, why 
>would
>  they not include midi capability to the DL4 if it was so easy?
>  Furthermore, you're suggesting that it would be easy to MODIFY the unit?
>  Sounds kinda fishy to me...
>  
>  For $250, my little green box works just fine...
>  
>  rich
>  
>  
>  At 05:33 PM 3/9/00 PST, you wrote:
>  >
>  >loopers !
>  >
>  >i don't know if anyone did or not talked about the idea of modifying
>  >the dl4, but it sure sounds like a danm good idea.
>  >two main reasones:
>  >
>  >just before reading that please forgive me for my poor level and
>  >knoowledge in electronics...(i am doing my best thugh to keep up with
>  >it)
>  >
>  >1.
>  >the fact that the unit has so many tweekning and tweazing
>  >possibilites and also 3 presets and a tap makes a bit of a conflict...
>  >assuming the optimal situation in which you can take the maximum
>  >advantage of the unit's flexabiliety ;
>  >
>  >a. the units on the flore
>  >it seems like the 1 expression pedal output is limiting,so you can't
>  >make small adjustment while playing but us the pedal like you use the
>  >wah
>  >b. or it's on a table so in order to tweek,you must stop stop playing.
>  >
>  >2.midi clock both in loop and delay mode
>  >
>  >basicly we're just talking about converting swiches and potentiometers
>  >to midi,shouldnt be so hard ...
>  >
>  >for the quality of the delay and other effects it may be interesting
>  >to go even further and assign different alogarithem to control
>  >velocities and other characters normaly being tweeked.
>  >
>  >i think about a kind of seperated midi agent device that converts
>  >midi clock to on&#65340;off and alogarithems&#65340;signals to level
(potentiometers)
>  >controls all these units.
>  >anyways, since midi technology is so accesible these days,
>  >it seems logical that there sould be some way to enable musican to
>  >convert their old analog devices to be controled vie digital interface.
>  >we're at the age of midi control.
>  >actualy its not a bad idea to start a kind of a business...
>  >like maybe do it yourself...
>  >
>  >-why wait for futher upgrades in the program if you can modify it
>  >by yourself?
>  >-why buy the modulation modeler if you can convert your analog devices
>  >to be controled via midi?
>  >-whats wrong in connecting analog technology with the opertunities of
>  >digital accurat control?
>  >
>  >looper, feel free to enrich use with your well appriciated knowlede,
>  >experience and ideas.
>  >
>  >am0as ;9)-
>  >
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>  >
>  Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 11:07:59 EST
>  From: KRosser414@aol.com
>  To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
>  Subject: Re: Loopers-Delight-d Digest V00 #74
>  Message-ID: <ca.2a2ad0a.25fa77df@aol.com>
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>  In a message dated 3/10/00 7:24:43 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
>  Loopers-Delight-d-request@annihilist.com writes:
>  
>  << So,
>   if you have a feeling that seems irrational, it's really your ideas 
>that
>   are irrational. I strongly suggest you look into Objectivism, the
>   philosophy of Ayn Rand.  >>
>  
>  I had plenty of psudeo-intellectual acquaintences in college, including 
>a

>  particularly irritating ex-girlfriend (so there's my subjective
angle...), 
>  that constantly trumpeted the philosophy and "genius" of Ayn Rand.  
>These

>  people all confused their ego with "rationality" and delighted on 
>sitting

>  around and stroking it ad nauseum.  I gave it a shot, but I thought 
>then,
and 
>  think now, that it's not only utter garbage but intellectually 
>cowardly. 
I'm 
>  not going to claim to have read everything by Ayn Rand, but I feel about
it 
>  like I feel about eating fried pork chops:  if you like it and have no 
>  trouble digesting it, good for you, but I didn't see the point in going
any 
>  further than one or two once my stomach was aching.
>  
>  If you get something meaningful from it, and I mean this sincerely, 
>more 
>  power to you.  But like the more over-zealous followers of any of these 
>  religions you find so offensive, you're making a mistake if you think 
>it 
>  applies to anyone's reality but your own.
>  
>  IMHO, of course, and as off-topic as ever,
>  Ken R
>  Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 08:35:38 -0800
>  From: dan mcmullen <dog@well.com>
>  To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
>  Subject: Re: Interesting...
>  Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20000310083538.00b39970@mail.well.com>
>  Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>  
>  At 02:14 PM 3/10/00 +0000, johnmcc@aldiscon.ie wrote:
>  >[Larry:]
>  >> On the otherhand, religion is a closed book, it's dogma
>  >> rarely (if ever) open to questioning and revision.
>  >
>  >Yep, and a pity .. I've often felt that there may be more to be gained
from
>  >understanding the questions than from the possible answer ..
>  
>  would it be more accurate to say "religion, *as often promoted by 
>western
>  religions instututions*, is a closed book"?  i believe religion *can*
(and
>  should?) be open to questioning and revision.
>  
>  thanks to all for their contributions to this fascinating thread,
>  dan
>  ___
>  dan mcmullen, ca, usa                      don't worry - pay attention
>  mailto:dog@well.com                                       707-485-0220
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>  Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 11:45:48 EST
>  From: Hawkeye255@aol.com
>  To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
>  Subject: Re: OT (or maybe not) National Endowment of the Arts...
>  Message-ID: <92.26a31b5.25fa80bc@aol.com>
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>   Subject:  NPR & PBS Funding
>   
>   On NPR's Morning Edition, Nina Totenberg reported that if the Supreme
>   Court supports Congress to cut the budget of the National Endowment of
>   the Arts, it is in effect the end of NEA. This situation creates great
>   concerns about Congressional funding for creative arts in America, 
>since
>   
>   NEA provides major support for NPR (National Public Radio), PBS (Public
>   Broadcasting System), and numerous other creative and performing arts.
>   If NEA is lost or weakened, our lives will be similarly diminished. In
>   spite of the efforts of each station to reduce spending costs and
>   streamline their services, some government officials believe that the
>   funding currently going to these programs is too large a portion of
>   funding for something which is seen as not worthwhile.
>   
>   Currently, taxes from the general public for PBS equal $1.12 per person
>   per year, and the National Endowment for the Arts equals $.64 a year. A
>   January 1995 CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll indicated that 76% of Americans
>   wish to keep funding for PBS, third only to national defense and law
>   enforcement as the most valuable programs for federal funding.
>   
>   Please add your name to this list and forward it to friends that you
>   believe are in favor of what this stands for. The full list will be
>   forwarded to the President of the United States, the Vice President, 
>and
>   
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>   instigator of the action to cut funding to these worthwhile programs.
>   This petition is being passed around the Internet. Please add your name
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>   104. Sandy Whitaker, Charlotte, NC
>   105. Neely Dodge, NY, NY
>   106. E Schlosberg Boston, MA
>   107. K. Caswell, Ivoryton, CT
>   108. Jerome Russo, Pennington, NJ
>   109. Sarah Caguiat Borthwick, Brooklyn, NY
>   110. Carlos J. Caguiat,Saranac Lake, NY
>   111. Rick Dennis, Saranac Lake,NY
>   112. Claire M. Stahler, Lake Placid, NY
>   113. Carolyn Curwen, Lowell, MA
>   114. Alison E. Curwen, Ojai, CA
>   115. William A. Curwen, Ojai, CA
>   116. Rick Swan, Ojai, CA
>   117. Sonia Nordenson, Ojai, CA
>   118. Rebecca Plum, Ojai, CA
>   119. Mike Wilkerson Santa Barbara, CA.
>   120. Jose Zamora, Berkeley, CA
>   121. Amber Smock, Berkeley, CA
>   122. Kimberly Cunningham, Berkeley, CA.
>   123. Margot Hanson, Berkeley, CA
>   124. Sarah Church, Berkeley, CA
>   125. David Caeser, Berkeley, ca
>   126. Catherine Trimbur, Berkeley, CA
>   127. Lori Durbin, Oakland, Ca.
>   128. Bebo White, San Francisco, CA
>   129. Bruce Erickson, San Carlos, CA
>   130. Don Erickson, Chicago, IL
>   131. D. McCannon, Evanston IL
>   132. G. Militello, Chicago, IL
>   133. D. Wilson, New York, New York
>   134. Kathy Murphy, Champaign, IL
>   135. Cara L. Day, Champaign, IL
>   136. Ualtar G. O'Regan, San Francisco, CA
>   137. John C. Lester, Berkeley, CA
>   138. Sara Hensley, San Jose, CA
>   139. Paul Olguin, Pacifica, CA
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>   143. Sandra Brown, Sherman Oaks, CA
>   144. Roland A. Childs, Los Angeles, CA
>   145. Naomi Childs, Los Angeles, CA
>   146. Ken Coleman. Santa Fe, NM
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>   148. Nathan Smith, Los Angeles, CA
>   149. Gabriela Kohen, New York, NY
>   150. Geoff Boehm, New York, NY
>   151. Kermit Johns, New York NY
>   152. Able Billheimer, New York NY
>   153. Ann C. Horan, Summit, NJ
>   154. Mary P. Lechevalier, Morrisville, VT
>   155. Hubert A. Lechevalier, Morrisville, VT
>   156. Marilyn J. Jordan, Huntington Station, NY
>   157. Kay Bromberg, Roslyn Heights, NY
>   158. Michael O'Neill, Wainscott, NY
>   159. Janine Veto, NY
>   160. Lysbeth A. Marigold, East Hampton, NY
>   161. Adrienne Kitaeff, East Hampton, NY
>   162. Kelly Patton Brook, Newcastle, Me
>   163. Alexander Brook, Newcastle, Me
>   164. Joanna Steichen, Montauk, NY
>   165. Will Trinkle, Roanoke, VA
>   166. Sheila Lobel, Hollis, NY
>   167. Robert Werthman, Fairless Hills, PA
>   168. L.A. Parks Daloz
>   169. Sharon Daloz Parks
>   170. John de Cuevas
>   171. Bruce Baird Struminger, Ann Arbor, MI
>   172. Leonadi Ward, La Crescenta,CA
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>   174. Kurt Hoelting, Clinton, WA
>   175. Sally Goodwin, Clinton, WA
>   176. Ross Chapin, Langley, WA
>   177. Linda Pruitt, Seattle, WA
>   178. Jim Soules, Seattle, WA
>   179. Joel Rogers, Seattle, WA
>   180. Tom Darden, Seattle, WA
>   181. Ellen Wallach, Seattle, WA
>   182. Karen Lane, Seattle, WA
>   183. Lynn Taylor, Mercer Island, WA
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>   187. Grace Norman, New York, NY
>   188. Rebecca Straus, New York, NY
>   189. Gillian Tan, New York, NY
>   190. Katherine Lynn, Somerville, MA
>   191. Chris Herb, Madison, WI
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>   194. Wm. E. Kilgour, Madison, Wi
>   195. Martha Kilgour, Madison, WI
>   196. Audrey Kupferberg, Amsterdam, NY
>   197. Rob Edelman, Amsterdam, NY
>   198. Judith M Kass, New York, NY
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>   200. Jack Eichenbaum, Flushing, NY
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>   202. Hal Temkin, Highland Park, IL
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>   210. Derek B. Petrella, Nashville, TN
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>   212 Katie M Arnold, Savannah, GA
>   213. Matthew Arnold, Brooklyn NY
>   214. April Lange, W. Barnstable, MA
>   215. Ruth Benfield, Seattle, Wa
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>   218. Morgan Benfield, Seattle, Wa
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>   220. Michael B. Plumb. Lynnwood, WA
>   221. Norma L. Plumb, Lynnwood, WA
>   222. Jonnee Denton, Bothell, WA
>   223. Les Denton, Bothell, WA
>   224. Susan Marett, Port Townsend, WA
>   225. Robert Marett, Port Townsend, WA
>   226. Patricia J. Yearian Port Townsend, WA
>   227. Barbara Furlan, Seattle, WA
>   228. Walt S. Dimick, Portland, OR
>   229. Jennifer Meyers, Portland, OR
>   230. Sarah Sameh, Portland, OR
>   231. Eleanor Kittelson, St. Paul, MN
>   232. Jan O'Donnell, Mpls, MN
>   233. Rebecca Knittle, Saint Paul, MN
>   234. Peggy A. Wiesenberg, Boston, MA
>   235. Ann A. Fountain, Boston, MA
>   236. Gio Gaynor, Boston,MA
>   237. Lele Yu, Boston, MA
>   238. Rebecca Ennen, Cambridge, MA
>   239. Tova Goodman, Boston, MA
>   240. Dana Simmons-Greco, Boston, MA
>   241. Rory O'Connell, Boston, MA
>   242. Debbie Moiles, Oxford, MA
>   243. Barry Jones, Worcester, MA
>   244. Bob Spera, Worcester, MA
>   245. Linda Taylor, Sturbridge, MA
>   246. Patricia J. Downe, Worcester, MA
>   247. Carel Mulder, Worcester, MA
>   248. Barbara Harris, Cambridge, MA
>   249. Pamela Erdmann, Dublin,N.H.
>   250. Russell M. Keith, Dublin, N. H.
>   251. Ellen Balis, Cambridge, MA
>   252. Doug McLeod, Cambridge, MA
>   253. Susan Rubinroit, South Windsor CT
>   254. Ken Edelston, Belfast, ME
>   255. Susan Guthrie, Belfast, ME
>   256. Heidi N. Brugger, Freedom, ME
>   257. Patricia Clark, Unity, ME
>   258. Peggy Gannon, Palmyra, ME
>   259. Paul Lowe, Freeport, ME
>   260. Barbara Wilmer, VA
>   261. Ann Goette, VA
>   262. Susan Morikawa, VA
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>   264. Nathan Beckwith, TX
>   265. Michael Zeoli, TX
>   266. Kirsten Singler, TX
>   267.  Jane Johnson, TX
>   268.  Diana Peyton, TX
>   269. Tonya Edmond, St. Louis, MO
>   270. Sally Haywood, St. Louis, MO
>   271. Mary Jo Brauner, St. Louis, MO
>   272.  Jim Herning, PhD, MSW--St. Louis, MO
>   273.  Christie Huck, St. Louis, MO
>   274. Wilson Powell, St. Louis, MO
>   275. Connie Frisbee Houde
>   276. Frank Houde
>   277. Deb Cavanaugh, Albany, NY
>   278. Marjorie Shaefer, Southfield, MI
>   279. Blossom Kecskes,  St.Clair Shores, MI
>   280. Jeanette Bezanson,  Madison Hts, MI
>   281. Matthew Bezanson,  Madison Hts, MI
>   282. Marlene Babb, Harper Woods, MI
>   283. Linda Liddicoatt,  Harper Woods, MI
>   284. Janet White, Oxford, MI
>   285. Linda Lupo
>   286. Karen Moran, Plymouth, MI
>   287. David Drouillard, Carleton, MI
>   288. Brian Philbin, Redondo Beach, CA
>   289. Tom Nichols, La Habra, CA
>   290. Janet Bratton, La Habra, CA
>   291. Spencer Graves,   Brea, CA
>   292. Jo Graves, Brea CA
>   293. Jim Crowley, Oxnard CA
>   294. Annelle Hazlett, Waimea, HI
>   295. Chuck Graybill, Hiawatha, IA
>   296. Norma Graybill, Hiawatha, IA
>   297. Richard Carroll, Marion, IA
>   298. Dorothy Carroll, Marion, IA
>   299. Daniel W. Adams, Cedar Rapids, IA
>   300. David W. Funk, Cedar Rapids, IA
>   301. Michael E. Maas, Cedar Rapids, IA
>   302. Gladyce M. Maas, Cedar Rapids, IA
>   303.  Patty Ankrum, Mount Vernon, IA
>   304.  Bill Reiter, Mount Vernon. IA
>   
>   
>   
>  Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 12:02:41 EST
>  From: Hawkeye255@aol.com
>  To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
>  Subject: Re: re Ineresting...
>  Message-ID: <6a.fe235c.25fa84b1@aol.com>
>  Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>  Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>  
>  <<     ===The universe is more of a Mambo Jumbo.===
>       so there.
>   
>       tch.tch.
>                                    Christine Bard
>                                   0~>~<>~><~<>~<~0 >>
>  
>  I beg to differ...Tango Jumbo, I believe. Hah!!!  So there!!!
>      hawkeye
>  Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 12:20:16 EST
>  From: SoundFNR@aol.com
>  To: Loopers-Delight@annihilist.com
>  Subject: Re: mpx1 vs. mpx 500
>  Message-ID: <da.1fd091c.25fa88d0@aol.com>
>  Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>  Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>  
>  In a message dated 10/03/00 01:39:45 GMT Standard Time,
gripcode@hotmail.com 
>  writes:
>  
>  > in order to compare the 1 to the 500;
>  >  
>  >  the routing possibilities
>  >  - i've heard about problems with the mpx 1's pitch shifting taking to
>  >  much place in the well crafted 1's dual processors and memory.
>  >  does that mean nessesarily that the routing in the 1 is bad when i 
>use
>  >  -the pitch or any orther effects?
>  >  -how many effect can i go through?
>  >  -are there any other effects taking to much place?
>  
>  Can't answer all your questions, try ghogan@lexicon.com
>  ...and keep in mind that I haven't actually used either,
>  I'm a MPX100 user who's researched them as a possible upgrade.
>  
>  >can i loop on the 500 and have my guitar playing through?
>  yes
>  
>  >tremolo + rotation
>  trems excellent 
>  rotations very good
>  (can only be better than the MPX100)
>  
>  >pitch shift MPX1
>  the fact this uses up processing power could be a sign it works well,
>  ... the pitch on the MPX100 only works well on single note I/P
>  possibly the MPX500 is the same.
>  
>  Basically I reckon the MPX1 is much more powerful than the 500,
>  it belongs in a higher price bracket than the 500.
>  ...but the 500 is newer (&cheaper)
>    
>  if the loop facility in the 500 is identical to the 100, then it may
>  share the problems, I'd suggest you try out an infinite loop
>  while receiving midi-clock and see if the signal degrades.
>    
>  
>   
>  
>  Andy Butler
>  Lexicon Vortex Database 
>  http://members.aol.com/soundfnr/vortex.htm





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