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Re: not enough DL4 patches



lol, aren't you supposed to be working Mr. Atkinson? Slaving, not looping!
(Insert snapping whip sound here)

;)

Cliff

-----Original Message-----
From: rich <rich@nuvision.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
<Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Date: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: not enough DL4 patches


>Yes, good point, you can use the mix knob, and i do use an expression
>pedal.  But there have been threads on the list before about the dl4
>and its pedal implementation.  it tends to be a pain in the ass, IMO.
>
>I have the expression pedal to control the 'mix' on all of my
>presets, so your point is well taken and yes...."obvious".  what if
>i've got that cool multi-head sound and i'm tweaking it in real
>time?...even though the expression pedal was set to control just the
>mix, it's now gonna take into account those tweaks.  so when i go to
>move the pedal to turn the mix down, it's not going to be a smooth
>fade out of my current tweak.  it's going to mutate the sound back to
>some prior configuration of the tweaking as well as fading it out.
>
>example.  say you have the multi-head on a pretty fast delay time,
>and you turn the feedback way up, so it's starting to self-oscillate.
>then you slowly turn the speed down, really slow, so you get this
>deconstructing downpitch thing.  now you've got this noisy low rumble
>happening and you want to turn it off or fade it out.  Go ahead, use
>the expression pedal, but that sound is now going to speed up as it
>fades out, back to where the knobs were when you started.  you would
>pretty much have to get on your knees and adjust the mix manually,
>which is what i do mostly when we're doing alot of live knob
>twiddling.
>
>i am currently using the Line6 expression pedal, but used a Roland
>EV5 prior.  If you buy the line6, try to get it from a catalog.  it's
>usually cheaper than line6 sells it on their site (figure that one
>out), and it won't take 6 weeks to arrive (like mine did).
>
>best,
>
>rich
>
>
>
>
>>In the 'so obvious it might be useless' category of advice....
>>
>>>regarding the dl4, changing delay models and tweaking leaves you
>>>stuck unless you decide to 'save' that preset.  say you're using the
>>>digital delay, and you have that saved (and all of your other slots
>>>have saved presets).  now start with the digital delay, and say you
>>>want to switch to the multi-head (but you don't have the multi-head
>>>as a saved preset).  so you just turn the model knob and go to the
>>>multi-head.  great, now ya start tweaking and you get something you
>>>really like.  now here comes a section where you have to turn the
>>>delay off, but you don't want to save over any of your other presets.
>>>no can do.  once you turn that multi-head setting off, it's gone.
>>
>>You can just adjust the MIX knob all the way to dry and that
>>MultiHead setting will still be there waiting for you won't it?  And
>>if you have an expression pedal set to adjust the mix, its a hands
>>free fix.
>>
>>Would only work one setting at a time but still, its something.
>>
>>By the way, anyone know what other expression pedals work with the
>>DL4?  Supposedly you need a, what 10k pot (sorry if thats the wrong
>>thingy), in your pedal and all of mine have 20's (as do the ones
>>I've looked at on line).
>>
>>
>>K
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