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This is very helpful information ....... Thanks Guys! Mark Sottilaro wrote: > Judging by what Electrix as said about this topic, what I'd do is first, >on the > Repeater, is to make a loop of a desired time. Leave it blank or put >something > on it, doesn't matter. You'll have a silent loop, but a loop anyway. >Bring it > into your favorite audio cruncher, and crunch away, copy and paste from >other > files, whatever, just don't change the length of the loop or the name. >Drag it > back to the CFC and viola, it should be there in it's new and improved >state. > I just got my computer back up and running, so I'm going to try this >later > today. Shouldn't matter, but I'm running all of this on the Mac OS. > > Mark Sottilaro > > Tim Goodwin wrote: > > > Sorry if my post was misleading, but I haven't loaded any pre-arranged >loops > > onto the CFC yet. That's why I wanted to know my options. > > > > It's obvious that file sharing was one of the problems that Electrix >was > > wrestling with this past year. For instance, last January's beta >manual > > includes an "Importing Loops into Repeater" section, complete with an > > explanation of how to import and export loops to and from Acid, Cubase >and > > Digital Performer. > > > > Here is a cut and paste of the material that they decided to edit from >the > > final print. So use this at your own risk! ;) I am reprinting this >because > > I think it may be of help to people. My apologies if I am violating >any > > unspoken (or spoken) boundaries here...) I assume that some of these > > guidelines may not work because they were edited from the final >manual. But > > who knows? Just don't blame me if following these directions makes >your > > Repeater blow up. :) Maybe Damon can let us know what to avoid (if >it's > > necessary to avoid any of the following...) > > > > Here goes (I added the section numbers for ease of reference): > > > > (1) Importing Loops Into Repeater: > > > > To create a new loop, simply - > > > > · Create a new folder in the Repeater directory. > > · Name the folder “Loop_###” where “###” is the Repeater loop number. > > · Drop up to four .WAV files in the folder. The files must be equal in > > length and in a 16 bit 44.1kHz mono format. > > · Use an audio editor to match the length of the loops if necessary. > > · Rename the tracks “track_1.wav…. track_4.wav”. > > > > Repeater will automatically calculate its proprietary information the >next > > time it plays the loop. If the loops are not the exactly the same >length, > > track one will be used as the master loop length and the other loops >will be > > truncated to match. > > > > (2) Importing and Exporting loops from ACID to Repeater: > > > > To Export loops from ACID to Repeater - > > > > · First, mute the tracks you do not wish to export from ACID. > > · Under FILE select EXPORT > > · Save as a .WAV > > · Select the export type “SAVE LOOP FILES AT PROJECT TEMPO” > > > > You can save the files to your hard drive then copy them onto the >Repeater > > CFC using the Importing to Repeater procedure. > > > > To Import Repeater loops into ACID, simply copy the Repeater tracks to >your > > hard drive. Rename them however you’d like, but keep the .WAV file > > extension. ACID allows you to browse your hard drive and look for .WAV >files > > using the MEDIA EXPLORER, point to the Repeater files and ACID will >ACIDize > > when you SAVE AS under the Track tab of the properties page. > > > > (3) Importing and Exporting loops from Digital Performer to Repeater: > > > > Importing and exporting loops in and out of Digital Performer can be > > accomplished by simply dragging and dropping the sound files of the >SOUND > > BITES window. Digital Performer expects the sound files to be in a >.AIFF or > > .SDII format. Use a utility like SoundApp, http://www.macdownload.com >to > > convert from .WAV to .AIFF. Be sure to follow the Repeater import >procedure > > outlined above when creating folders and tracks on the CFC. > > > > (4) Importing and Exporting loops from Cubase to Repeater: > > > > Importing and exporting loops in and out of Cubase can be accomplished >by > > using the Audio Pool. > > > > To Import audio into Cubase - > > > > · Activate the Pool window > > · Select Import Audio from the pop-up File menu > > · Select the file and click open. > > > > Macintosh Cubase users will have to convert their loops into .AIFF or >.SDII > > format. Use a utility like SoundApp, to convert from .WAV to .AIFF. > > > > To export a file - > > > > · Activate the Audio Pool window > > · Select Export Segment from the pop-up Do menu. > > · Save the file. If you are on a Mac convert it to the .WAV format. > > > > Be sure to follow the Repeater import procedure outlined above when >creating > > folders and tracks on the CFC with your new loop data. > > > > -- > > > > Well, that's about it regarding importing and exporting files to and >from a > > PC to a Repeater. > > > > I'm going to try and set up some loops with one or two 'prepped >tracks'. By > > using steps (2) and (1) from above. I could then use the copy >function to > > move and edit them as needed. I guess the one thing to remember is >that if > > (for instance) I load an Acidized loop onto track 1 of loop A, the >tempo > > that I select when exporting the track from Acid will be the true > > tempo/length of the .wav file. If I tweak the tempo knob and decide >to add > > new tracks to the tempo altered loop, I think that means that the new >.wav > > files will be of a different length. Or will they? It might be >necessary > > to resample loops that are copied and then tempo shifted to establish >a new > > common .wav length for that loop... or maybe not. Whoa. I'm getting > > confused. > > > > The other possibility is adding tracks to a loop that was first >created on > > the Repeater (as opposed to one that was manually created on my >computer). > > In this case, it's important to remember to resample any tracks that >were > > tempo or pitch shifted so that the selected tempo matches the true .wav > > length. Then it's only a matter of Acidizing loops to the true tempo >to > > ensure a .wav length match and dumping the new .wav files into the loop > > folder as per the naming convention described in section (1). > > > > I hope this helps. It helped me to write it all out! ;) I'm gonna >pickup a > > CFC reader sometime this weekend and try this out. I'll let you know >how it > > goes. > > > > BTW, this is my first looper. I messed around with a DL4 last year and > > thought is was interesting. But this thing is awesome. The creative > > potential is phenomenal. I am floating. I guess that makes me a true >"next > > generation" looper. Onward and upward. > > > > -- > > Tim > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Sean [mailto:sean_@mindspring.com] > > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 9:07 PM > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: RE: Using tap tempo on Repeater > > > > How are you getting the repeater to recognize the files you're copying >on > > the card? Did you already have loops set up that were the same length >as > > the loops you're loading on the CFC? > > > > At 06:07 PM 2001/09/07 -0500, Tim wrote: > > > > >We had a blast. I'm downloading ACID Express as I type. I'm going >to load > > >some ambient textures onto my new 128M card (which formatted in about >three > > >seconds with NO problems). Does anyone know if there are any other >ways to > > >get .wav loop files on my PC onto my CFC with using a USB-CFC hookup? > Or > > is > > >that the best bet? Thanks.