Re: delay question / Vortex?

[Greg House <ghunicycle@yahoo.com>]

--- Mark Sottilaro <sine@zerocrossing.net> wrote:
> Ah, for stereo and cheap, I think the Vortex might be the only thing,

The Vortex will definitely do seamless drones. You'd want to have the
expression pedal and morph between a delay with no feedback and with
with 100% feedback. I've used mine this way. I think Andy's Vortex
application page has notes on using the Vortex as a "sample & hold"
delay.

There are several things about the Vortex that might not make it ideal
for this. First off, it's an odd bird, an unusual device. It takes
awhile to learn to use it, and even then you probably want to keep the
manual around so you can remember the effect algorithms. The expression
pedal can't be "permanently" assigned, you have to press a front panel
button to enable it every time you change presets. It only has 16 user
presets. It doesn't have midi control, can't sync to another device,
that sort of thing. 

It's been discontinued for many years, might be hard to find one. If
you do find one, it might not be reliable. This goes for Jamman too.

That said, the Vortex can make some wild sounds. Like nothing else. But
if you just want to sample & hold a droning note, it's way more then
you want or need.

>  What about putting stereo processing on the output of your
> looper to fake it?  Guitar's don't usually have stereo outputs
> anyway.

This was the question I was thinking too. There isn't anything
implicitly stereo about a single note ebow drone from a guitar. If
there's stereo processing you use on it, put it after the Headrush and
you have a cheap solution.

> The JamMan (which
> you can probably pick up used cheaply at this point) 

I donno about that. I don't see too many of 'em for sale used, and the
prices are still around $350. Unless you have better sources then I can
find, it might be a search.

The Line6 DL4 will definitely give you a glitch at the end of the loop.
 I don't think it does it every time, but I used one for awhile and
remember hearing that sometimes. It didn't bug me 'cause the glitch
noise kind of worked with what I was doing.

I don't remember ever hearing end of loop glitches with my Repeater,
but I wouldn't say it doesn't ever do that, I haven't been doing that
much material where I'd notice it lately.

Greg

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