Re: Attn: Matthias; Learning How to use the EDP?

[Andre LaFosse <altruist@earthlink.net>]

Yet another non-Matthias reply to a question for Matthias!

"M. Steven Ginn" wrote:

> Sean I am fully aware that the EDP could be configured ad-infinitum, I
> was only wondering if there were some guidelines somewhere that I might
> use to set up my EDP initially. 

http://www.altruistmusic.com/EDP/2001.html
http://www.altruistmusic.com/EDP/tg.html

I specifically designed these pages to reflect different applications
for the Echoplex using certain combinations of functions and parameter
setttings.  Certain types of combinations are more effective for
different types of approaches.

Matthias also has an excellent EDP tutorial written:








 A lot of times gear/software that have
> a great deal of options will also have recommended defaults from which
> to start.  If the defaults of the EDP are in fact those that are in
> effect if you reset the system back to factory defaults, then I can live
> with that and use that as my starting point.  My only comments about
> this to Matthias (who I was trying to direct this message to) was his
> comment about making the EDP to begin using for a beginner.  But for me
> (a beginner), as powerful and awesome as the EDP is (or can be), having
> so many choices when trying to learn it is somewhat intimidating.
> Relating the EDP to an empty canvas is quite an interesting analogy, but
> remember even art books exist so you can learn how best to combine
> colors and use different mediums to accomplish a masterpiece.
> 
> As for the pre/post or the before EDP after EDP effects question, I have
> seen the posts how some have used one or the other, but not necessarily
> a great amount as to why you would want it one way or the other.  I have
> actually been thinking that it might be nice to somehow figure out how
> to determine if effects are applied before or after on-the-fly so that I
> might add some effects to part of what I am putting on the loop and then
> change the effects for the entire mix after the loop ... But how best to
> accomplish this is something else I have learn.  Most likely from
> reading what the experts in LD have to say.
> 
> M. Steven Ginn
> 
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Sean Echevarria [mailto:sean_@mindspring.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 12:54 PM
> > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> > Subject: Re: Attn: Matthias; Learning How to use the EDP?
> >
> >
> > These questions are akin to asking what's the recommended
> > standard configuration setup for a blank canvas.  Or asking
> > whether you should use acrylics, watercolors, oils, chalk,
> > pastels, broad strokes, fine strokes,  etc.  There is no
> > recommended standard.  Some people have already responded
> > that they like to loop an effected sound and others like to
> > post-process their loops.  Some do it both ways <gasp>.
> >
> >
> >
> > At 12:46 PM 2002/07/11 -0500, M. Steven Ginn wrote:
> >
> > >Second, learning the best way to incorporate the EDP within
> > the overall
> > >mixing scheme such as applying effects before the loop (do
> > we cut off
> > >reverb tails?) or after when we only have a single effects unit.
> > >
> > >Third, when you see all the commands in the EDP manual such as
> > >Quantize=On or RoundMode=Off and everyone on the loopers
> > list refers to
> > >these functions as if they were able to change them on the fly (I
> > >assume with midi commands), the amount of possible button presses to
> > >accomlish many different things begins to greatly exceed the
> > standard
> > >EFC buttons of "Record" "Overdub" "Multiply" "Insert" "Mute"
> > "Undo" and
> > >"Next Loop". I know a lot of people here use the EDP for different
> > >things, but if these large number of various functions are
> > meant to be
> > >static, I have yet to see any recommendations as to standard
> > >recommended setups, assuming that is possible.  Are there any
> > >recommended standard configuration setups for the EDP?
> >