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Fw: what are you (not) looping




----- Original Message -----
From: "Lance Chance" <lrc8918@louisiana.edu>
To: <rs@moinlabs.de>
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: what are you (not) looping


> i have a hard time with rhythmic live drums and looping.   mic/feedback
> issues are part of the problem.  another thing that i run into is trying
to
> find kit drummers who can keep time with a delay slap back.   i don't 
>play
> kit myself, and drummers with effects savvy are precious and few.   i 
>find
> that flutes can oversaturate a loop quickly if you try to do dense
layering
> with them, whereas the dynamic and tonal versatility of the electric
guitar
> generally allows for a greater number of layers.  but that doesn't really
> prevent me from using flutes, i just crank down the feedback.   actually,
i
> guess i'll loop just about anything.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" <rs@moinlabs.de>
> To: "Looper's Delight Mailing List (E-mail)"
> <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 3:12 PM
> Subject: what are you (not) looping
>
>
> > An interesting question I'd like to start as a followup is "What are 
>you
> not
> > looping" ?
> > or:
> > Are there any instruments you play ("instruments you play" in the more
> > general sense of "noises you create") which you do not loop?
> >
> > Personally, I have several different instruments and have looped most 
>of
> > them:
> > keyboards (lots, my second instrument)
> > electric bass guitar (in different varieties, my main bass being a
> > six-string tuned in sixth-fifth tuning through a VBass)
> > electric guitar
> > trombone
> > saxophone (mainly soprano)
> > voice (including spoken announcements, noises picked up from the
audience,
> > cell phone calls,...)
> > effects (I did some performances where I would weirdify a normal
> instrument
> > (with the effect not necessarily going through the amplification) and
then
> > looping only the effect signal. And I used combinations of effectors as
> > instruments themselves (the DL4 is excellent for this, really cheap
> > distortion pedals with an open guitar cable work also great, every kind
of
> > filter, and this in combination with ring modulators, reverbs, delays 
>->
> > into the loop)
> > loops (re-looping loops themselves in any creative way, both live loops
> and
> > prerecorded material)
> >
> > What I didn't loop:
> > acoustic guitar (I'm not a good guitar player and thus didn't tale the
> time
> > to set up microphones etc. to loop my own struggling with the acoustic)
> > recorder (same goes here)
> > acoustic drums/percussions (don't have any of these myself)
> >
> >
> > As you see, I loop mostly every noise I create. Still, I've begun to 
>see
> the
> > reason why lots of people here (and a lot of really famous loopers) are
> > guitarists: the guitar seems to be an excellent sound source for
creative
> > looping. I'm not enough of a (bass) guitarist to give more valid 
>reasons
> for
> > this than the possibility to play both chords and expressive melody
lines
> > (i.e. more expressive from the technical means than keyboard parts), 
>the
> > fluency of lots of guitarists with effects in general and effects you
step
> > on in particular, the "electricity" of the guitar as a simplification 
>of
> the
> > technical set-up (compared, say, to looping a classical harp).
> >
> > Anybody could further comment on this. And anybody can name instruments
> > he/she plays but doesn't loop, or instruments which are totally inept
for
> > looping?
> >
> > Rainer
> >
> > Rainer Straschill
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> >
>