A DIFF : re:Workaround in Ableton's LIVE 4.0

["Rodrigo Constanzo" <silence@bellsouth.net>]

i guess im jumping in a little late, but ive been having a hoot with live
lately and was wondering if some of you live pros could tell me something

can you do asynchronous loops in live?, from what ive gathered it just
stretches/shrinks whatever you drop in to fit the tempo, is there a way to
make it play whatever loops you add loop at their own tempi but within teh
same liveset?
and can you combine it stretch/shrinking loops AND leaving loops at their
own tempi at the same time?

thanks

rodrigo

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tias" <tias@condomo.com>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 3:09 AM
Subject: Re: 1st Loop Workaround in Ableton's LIVE 4.0


> > Maybe we're actually saying the same thing and I'm just reacting
> > strongly to the phrase "virtually impossible."
>
> Hehe, indeed we are. ;)
>
> > other than live loop fanatics. Often in a production setting I have a
> > loop I would like to use as a master, and as such I would prefer that 
>it
> > not be granulated (even subtly), and that all the other loops sync to
> > it.
>
> Well put (my thoughts exactly), the code for finding out the tempo of a
loop
> isn't hard since the theory isn't hard.
> But implementing it in the current sample-slot engine that Live uses, i
just
> can't help to think that it would be hard. Unless maybe a modification to
it
> adding something like a new "Master Tempo Channel" so you could have
several
> samples, loaded or recorded on the fly, with different master tempos so
Live
> just change the tempo and stretches all other samples as usual.
>
> That way you could have either Samples in each Tempo Slot or perhaps even
> just a Tempo event setting. So you could trigger new tempo-settings with
the
> click of a button. ;)
>
> How's that for an implementation? Maybe we should suggest that to 
>Ableton.
>
> That's one thing that cheaper priced sequencers of today tend to loose
focus
> on, a song usually is just one tempo all the way through, not by choice
but
> because the software some musicians use doesn't support changing of 
>tempos
> throughout the song.
>
> /Tias
>
>