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RE: How to get the file size down



> I was given the master on Super VHS,

>> Not the best quality, you already lost one generation.

Agreed...not much I cold do about that, once I got it to DVD, that
wasn't my concern.

>which I paid to have converted to DVD. I ripped the DVD to the best
>quality mpeg (DVD editing quality),

>> MPEG is already a compressed format, so you're compressing it again
and most likely it's going down hill from there.

Good grief, my 10 minute .mpg video file, ripped from DVD was 750 MB.
Are you saying there is a format that will produce a file that is even
bigger than that? Why? That mpg file is already specified DVD editing
quality. I can burn back to DVD and tell NO difference.

Are we talking about .mpg vs. mpeg? I rip to .mpg DVD editing quality.
My entire DVD of four videos ripped to over 2 Gig worth of .mpg files.
Again, I could burn those back to the DVD and  tell no difference in
quality.  I jus want to find a way to get that 750 MB 10, minute .mpg
file down to a smaller size video file....wmv, real, whatever, using
Sorensen, etc, etc - doesn't make a difference to me.

>>Plus, MPEG is one track, audio and video mixed together. You want to
be able to compress video and audio separately. It'll eventually be one
file, but don't start with an MPEG.

>> I'm not familiar with this "DVD editing quality" that you mention.

It's just what  Roxio Media Pro recommends to edit and produce DVD
qualit videos, to burn to DVD for DVD player use. It's the largest size
.mpg file I could generate from ripping the DVD.

What format do you suggest I rip my DVD's too then?  Or did my .mpg vs.
mpeg clarification above settle this? I probably wasn't clear on this.

>then converted that to a series of >Windows Media (wmv) videos. The
>quality of these wmv videos is >acceptable...no overt choppiness in
>the sound.
movement is relatively >smooth, etc, but the files are still >large. 

>> What did you use to convert to WMV?

Roxia Media Pro.  I've tried the Windowd Media encoder too...no real
difference, but Roxio is easy and has a lot of options, and
customizability in how you convert, bit rates, many formats, size
dimensions, etc.

>A 10 min. 25 second video of >mine is 15MB and the size is 208 x >160.
However, is there a media format that will get the file size down even
further without loosing quality?
> I've tried Real Audio...no luck.

>>The worst!

Suggestions, then?

>I hear Sorensen Squeeze 4 can do this but I'm too cheap to buy it.

>> Yeah, expensive...but that's the way to go. Get your movie
uncompressed onto a DVD as data not MPEG. 

That's done already. Again, I ripped from DVD to .mpg files. So, you are
saying a need to rip the DVD to antother format that produces an even
larger file than the .mpg (again, we're talking about over 2 gig of .mpg
files for my four videos.

>> So it's not compressed to begin with. The video should contain two
tracks, one video and one audio (stereo, mono
whatever) I'm familiar with using Quicktime. So you would recieve a high
quality QT movie on DVD, import into Sorenson, choose a frame size,
320x240, 240x180, etc. and finally experiment with data rates.

Sorenson has something called "Variable Bit Rate" It does two passes on
your movie, first is analyzing and second is compressing.
You could also consider a final MPEG so all platforms could play it.
Main thing is to start out with a highest quality, a master, and
compress from there.
Time consuming, but it works.

Well, I guess I'l wait and invest in Sorensen eventually, when can
justify the costs.  I'm not terribly disapointed with the quality and
size of the videos now just for web viewing, just trying to get the size
down even more.

Thank!

Kris



HTH,
Fred

>
http://www.sorensonstore.com/product_info.php?url=http://www.sorensonsto
re.com/products/sq4cswin.html
 It sounds like the
> ticket though.
>  
> ...looking for other options, or I just suck it up and accept a 15MB 
> file size for a 10 minute video.
>  
> Kris

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