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RE: Closing the Loop: orchestral instruments>>mellotron>>orchestr al instruments SIMULATING mellotron



Title: RE: Closing the Loop: orchestral instruments>>mellotron>>orchestr al instruments SIMULATING mellotron

>>Simulating the timbre of a not-so-well-maintained mellotron would be more accurate; I've grown rather fond of the quirks. But since I'm not using a keyboard, I'm not playing it like a keyboard.<<

ah- gotcha. curiously, there are things you can do on the real thing that you can't really do on other keyboards anyway- in particular, the sideways-play in the keys that can (depending on the state of the pinch rollers) introduce some peculiar vibrato. the only way I've been able to reproduce this with midi is to use a guitar controller- I have a strat with a gk pickup, & a peavey midibase (sic) that I occasionally use for lead lines.

>>The only actual real live mellotron I've ever recorded with was one of the two [snip] One doesn't work and supplies
parts for the other<<
sadly this is often the case with older instruments. there's actually quite a bit of support for 'trons nowadays though; often what's lacking is the inclination &/or financial wherewithal to get them properly restored. mine hasn't left the studio for almost four years, but we used to use it at every gig. only when we started using a drum kit did it become too much to deal with. maybe we should get roadies....

>>But for what I've been doing, recording flutes and cellos onto analog tape before introducing them to the other instruments in the software, the sound has been, to my ear, smooth and pleasant, with a weirdness that's just wrong in the right kind of way [snip] it's a sound I like, mostly as a result of the imperfections of the medium.<<

exactly. this is why I do all my sampling from 1/4" tape. aswell as all that mod-routing, I play with different sample rates too. I have an old 8-bit delay line with dbx either end of the digital bit; this is fantastic for recording drum patterns prior to resampling- makes them sound like you lifted them from some ancient record even though you just wrote them y'rself on a regular drumbox. once you appreciate where the imperfections are, it's a lot of fun to introduce them deliberately by messing about with microtuning & modulation, aswell as unusual signal paths.

>>I could really hear the limitations/artifacts of the old, cheap digital reverb I was using (three letter name, black with disgusting pink and blue graphics) which is just fine when used with analog, albeit noisy.<<

ART? :-) I have one of their guitar "pre-amp" boxes. dreadful.... did you ever see that guitar combo they made? probably the ugliest

>>The two step analog to digital process isn't always the most convenient; maybe I can get round it another way.<<

sometimes when I'm doing a major sampler-population session, I'll route the input via a 1/4" deck & just leave it in record, sampling from the monitor head. maybe you could get hold of an old copicat or a tape echoplex.....

duncan.



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