I hear you Rainer, and that is the reason I got rid of my MO-FX and WarpFactory... however I miss them. One of the things I love about all the Electrix gear is the interface is so thoughtfully done and man are they designed to be played with... If you've got your hands full with a guitar, it becomes moot and yes, you can do all that with other gear. My MO-FX was replaced by the significantly more capable Lexicon MPX-1 but there was a long, long ramp up time before I was comfortable using the MPX-1, where the MO-FX is something that can be taken out of the box and used with barely opening the manual. Same holds true for the Repeater in most aspects. I was looping with it before I read the manual. In hind site I'd describe the MO-FX as an instrument or performance orientated effect, where as other boxes are less adept at such things and must be hooked to some sort of midi control interface (see: more real estate) to get the same deal. So as a guitarest I choose to put that real estate on the floor. I think Electrix was really going for the DJ/Electronic musician crowd when they designed these little boxes, not guitarists. Mark --- Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill <email@example.com> wrote: > I still have the repeater (can't get rid of it it > seems ;) and also used > to own a filter factory. What I always hated about > the Electrix boxes is > that they take two HU, most of the time for an > effect I wouldn't even > donate half a rackspace for.