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Re: Drum-machine song construction tips?
Have you considered using something like the Yamaha DD50 pads? It'll send
MIDI and you can hit it with sticks. ;)
I'm not much of a drummer (well, not a drummer at all) but I set up Sonar
record my flailings and then edit it (quantize is my friend.) Then I can
send the MIDI to whatever I want (Soundfonts, Alesis, various synths,
btw. The guy who wrote HammerHead/Moonfish/Tuareg is working on a
drum/vsti/sample sequencer called Tunafish that's in beta right now. It
looks very very cool for doing drum loops, etc. I know Rick's a big
preliminary look at the docs - http://www.brambos.com/usingtunafish.zip
----- Original Message -----
From: "mark sottilaro" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 1:32 PM
Subject: Re: Drum-machine song construction tips?
> I've not tried the MPC1000, but I've heard of it's
> greatness. I actually really like the much cheaper
> Korg ESX-1, even though it has no "pads" to speak of
> like the MPC1000. For that I can easily use my MIDI
> I should look into getting some samples for it though.
> Linn drum sounds... mmmmm. I'm hoping to eventually
> get it so that there's not a single traditional drum
> sound on it and use the copious E-MU library for those
> --- "L. Angulo" <email@example.com> wrote:
>> No doubt computers are more flexible,but have u
>> the mpc1000?i love the feel of its pads, it syncs
>> great to the EDP,and usb transfer is wonderful,you
>> also go to their web and download all the classic
>> machine sounds like the linn drum,Acetone and all
>> vintage obscure beat boxes!i just wish they would
>> given it more memory...but i have to get a dedicated
>> midi foot controller for it to mess with the
>> midi functions it offers,track mute,next sequence,
>> etc.song mode can be very useful but i dont like to
>> following a machine,so track muting and next
>> seem to be more intuitive live.
>> I am curious how bands like Rush,Bowie etc. are
>> working nowdays, Peter Gabriel has a buch of laptops
>> on stage and he certainly does it very clever!
>> --- mark sottilaro <firstname.lastname@example.org>
>> > Hi.
>> > I've been using drum machines for years, and for
>> > last 12 or so I've synced audio loopers (Lexicon
>> > JamMan and Electrix Repeater) to them. It's always
>> > worked great (and still does) but I think I use my
>> > drum machines in a somewhat non traditional way.
>> > use either a Korg Electribe ESX-1 or E-MU XL-7 to
>> > put
>> > together dense loops and then kind of randomly
>> > mute/unmute tracks while in song mode. The lack
>> > traditional song structure is great for the way I
>> > like
>> > to improvise.
>> > Well, this weekend I decided to put together
>> > something
>> > with a more "pop" structure and I found the song
>> > modes
>> > on both the above drum machines to be SO awkward
>> > compared to a DAW like Digital Performer or Logic,
>> > ended up with nothing.
>> > So, am I just spoiled by modern computer
>> > sequencing...
>> > or am I approaching the drum machine song
>> > construction
>> > in the wrong way? My idea is to avoid having to
>> > bring
>> > a laptop to gigs, but if it's going to be so much
>> > easier I'll do it. I can get around pretty
>> > in
>> > Digital Performer 4... then I started to think
>> > if I'm bringing a laptop for sequencing, why not
>> > it as a sound source as well?" The ESX-1 is a
>> > sampler
>> > and the XL-7 is a ROMpler so it's not like I'd
>> > issues with a laptop not being able to have fast
>> > enough processors.
>> > So, if there's a song construction tip that you
>> > think of, I'd love to hear it. If you've found a
>> > better tool that lets one work more intuitively,
>> > (the
>> > Electribe has a way better interface than the E-MU
>> > IMO) I'd like to hear that as well. If song
>> > construction in modern drum-machines is just a big
>> > pain compared to software, than I guess I'll
>> > my little cute boxes for my current project.
>> > Thanks,
>> > Mark
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