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Re: Drum-machine song construction tips?



Have you considered using something like the Yamaha DD50 pads?  It'll send 
MIDI and you can hit it with sticks. ;)
I'm not much of a drummer (well, not a drummer at all) but I set up Sonar 
to 
record my flailings and then edit it (quantize is my friend.)  Then I can 
send the MIDI to whatever I want (Soundfonts, Alesis, various synths, 
VSTi, 
etc)

btw.  The guy who wrote HammerHead/Moonfish/Tuareg is working on a 
drum/vsti/sample sequencer called Tunafish that's in beta right now.  It 
looks very very cool for doing drum loops, etc.  I know Rick's a big 
Tuareg 
fan. :)

preliminary look at the docs - http://www.brambos.com/usingtunafish.zip

Tony

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "mark sottilaro" <marksottilaro@sbcglobal.net>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2005 1:32 PM
Subject: Re: Drum-machine song construction tips?


> I've not tried the MPC1000, but I've heard of it's
> greatness.  I actually really like the much cheaper
> Korg ESX-1, even though it has no "pads" to speak of
> like the MPC1000.  For that I can easily use my MIDI
> keyboard.
>
> I should look into getting some samples for it though.
> Linn drum sounds... mmmmm.  I'm hoping to eventually
> get it so that there's not a single traditional drum
> sound on it and use the copious E-MU library for those
> sounds.
>
> Mark
>
> --- "L. Angulo" <labalou2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> No doubt computers are more flexible,but have u
>> tried
>> the mpc1000?i love the feel of its pads, it syncs
>> great to the EDP,and usb transfer is wonderful,you
>> can
>> also go to their web and download all the classic
>> drum
>> machine sounds like the linn drum,Acetone and all
>> the
>> vintage obscure beat boxes!i just wish they would
>> have
>> given it more memory...but i have to get a dedicated
>> midi foot controller for it to mess with the
>> different
>> midi functions it offers,track mute,next sequence,
>> etc.song mode can be very useful but i dont like to
>> be
>> following a machine,so track muting and next
>> sequence
>> seem to be more intuitive live.
>> I am curious how bands like Rush,Bowie etc. are
>> working nowdays, Peter Gabriel has a buch of laptops
>> on stage and he certainly does it very clever!
>> Luis
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --- mark sottilaro <marksottilaro@sbcglobal.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi.
>> >
>> > I've been using drum machines for years, and for
>> the
>> > last 12 or so I've synced audio loopers (Lexicon
>> > JamMan and Electrix Repeater) to them. It's always
>> > worked great (and still does) but I think I use my
>> > drum machines in a somewhat non traditional way.
>> I
>> > use either a Korg Electribe ESX-1 or E-MU XL-7 to
>> > put
>> > together dense loops and then kind of randomly
>> > mute/unmute tracks while in song mode.  The lack
>> of
>> > traditional song structure is great for the way I
>> > like
>> > to improvise.
>> >
>> > Well, this weekend I decided to put together
>> > something
>> > with a more "pop" structure and I found the song
>> > modes
>> > on both the above drum machines to be SO awkward
>> > compared to a DAW like Digital Performer or Logic,
>> I
>> > ended up with nothing.
>> >
>> > So, am I just spoiled by modern computer
>> > sequencing...
>> > or am I approaching the drum machine song
>> > construction
>> > in the wrong way?  My idea is to avoid having to
>> > bring
>> > a laptop to gigs, but if it's going to be so much
>> > easier I'll do it.  I can get around pretty
>> quickly
>> > in
>> > Digital Performer 4... then I started to think
>> "well
>> > if I'm bringing a laptop for sequencing, why not
>> use
>> > it as a sound source as well?"  The ESX-1 is a
>> > sampler
>> > and the XL-7 is a ROMpler so it's not like I'd
>> have
>> > issues with a laptop not being able to have fast
>> > enough processors.
>> >
>> > So, if there's a song construction tip that you
>> can
>> > think of, I'd love to hear it.  If you've found a
>> > better tool that lets one work more intuitively,
>> > (the
>> > Electribe has a way better interface than the E-MU
>> > IMO) I'd like to hear that as well.  If song
>> > construction in modern drum-machines is just a big
>> > pain compared to software, than I guess I'll
>> abandon
>> > my little cute boxes for my current project.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Mark
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>> www.luis-angulo.com
>>
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