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RE: PRO vs. AM was Re: Defining "pro"



Well stated! Among other things, being called a 'weekend warrior' by a
fellow musician stung like hell for a while before I realized the source 
was
a bitter musician who tried to blame me for his inability to survive solely
on music.

I wanted to bring up my variation of the 80/20 rule in this business. If I
can keep the 'crap' (travel, agents' BS, ...) that goes along with a given
project in the 20% range, I'm in heaven. Some projects flip that ratio
around to where I wonder why I'm really still involved. I eventually take 
my
energy elsewhere.

-----Original Message-----
From: loop.pool [mailto:looppool@cruzio.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2005 10:39 AM
To: LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)
Subject: PRO vs. AM was Re: Defining "pro"

Tony wrote:
"Someone once told me...

"A professional does for money what an amateur does for the love of it."


This falls into the same category as the wisdom that says

"Those who can't do, teach"

It is ignorant and mean spirited.


I've been an artist all of my life.   In every situation I've ever been 
in, 
I have always created the space to have a completely
original project, dedicated to pure artistry:   pure expression in 
whatever 
medium I was involved in...............from rock and roll
to funk to jazz to new wave to world music to electronica to found sound 
to 
live looping.

I have also not had a conventional 'day job' for the last 25 years, having 
made all of my living as a musician in one form or another
(studio recording, touring, local gigging, teaching, music production, 
live 
sound engineering, music business consulting, et. al.)

I am a pro and I'm proud of it.   I worked my ass off to survive and it 
has 
been very difficult to do so at times.   I ate burritos and quesadillas 
and 
other cheap food for the better part of ten years so that I could keep my 
eye on the prize:   music.

I am not cynical or calculating in being a professional.   I pride myself 
on

trying to have a service orientation in my work (I'm a drummer for god's 
sake so it goes with the territory..........lol).

I also do not look down or put down musicians who do not make their living 
as professionals.  I'd never put on a looping festival if I had this 
attitude.

Some of the very best musicians I know are not 'pros' in the strict 
definition of the word.  I could care less.  They are wonderful and 
innovative musicians.

 Some of the very best musicians I know are also consumate professionals, 
both in spirit and in the letter of the term.   You want to tell me that 
Debhashish Battycharya, Bob Brozman, Martin Simpson, Deepak Ram and 
Babatunde Olatunji are cynical hacks because they are so good that they 
make

all of their living being musicians.   Be real, please.


Distinctions between pro and amateur are spurious in terms of artistry, I 
believe.

My definition of a true artist is someone who does art every day, whether 
or

not they make their living from it.
I know great artists who have day jobs,   terrible hacks who are pros.
I also know terrible hacks who are proverbial 'weekend warriors',  a term 
bandied about by professional musicians who are also
equally ignorant and mean spirited.  I've known great artists who are 
professionals.

*********

In this discussion, folks, let's be 
honest.........................everyone 
on earth wishes they could do what they most love for a living.
It's simple............if you love something, you want to devote as much 
time to it as you can and making a living doing it merely affords you the 
ability to put more energy into your 
art...........................sometimes.      Having to play three to five 
gigs a week to pay the bills can also be exhausting and can definitely 
keep 
your eye off the 'prize' of artistry.

There is no need to put people down in this discussion.   Every truly 
great 
master artist I've ever known has never had this kind of 'US' and 'THEM'
mentality.  Period. Point. Dot.