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Re: Coffeehouse Guitar vs street-busker



You got it. When I first heard Phish, I disliked them. Then a year later 
they were my favorite band. Something happened in my head that changed how 
I 
felt about what I heard. That black box is a mysterious thing. As you say, 
there are "truths" like  "Song A makes me feel X", but another person may 
say "Song A does not make me feel X, but Y". Of course, putting those two 
statements side by side, they contradict each other, but that isn't a 
problem if you restrict them to facts of personal feeling rather than 
actual 
characteristics of music. IF we are talking about actual inherent or 
instrinsic characteristics of music, then it would be impossibe for a 
piece 
of music to be both X and Not-X. That's absurd....a does-not-compute.  So 
there is no single truth about the value of a single piece of music, only 
individual truths that may or may not be consistent with each other, and 
which correspond to states of affairs inside the private  "black box" of 
thoughts and feeligs.

I think I've turned this thread into a philosophical tract. Sorry.

Kris


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Timothy Mungenast" <mungenast@earthlink.net>
To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: Coffeehouse Guitar vs street-busker


> Have you ever listened to a piece of music while in a foul/unreceptive
> mood, hated it, and then been blown away upon a second, better, listen?
> This happened to me enough times to realize that maybe the musical 
> "truths"
> are all simply a matter of perception, as Kris says. One person's
> transcendent ticket to joy is another person's infantile, boring 
>twaddle. 
> I
> guess having a professional music critic in my band, an acerbic critic 
>who
> hates at least half of my favorite bands, has also made this clear.
>
> Peace,
> Tim M
>
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: <johnsrude@peak.org>
>> To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
>> Date: 7/20/2006 1:28:23 PM
>> Subject: Re: Coffeehouse Guitar vs street-busker
>>
>> > It's always been a great mystery to me how some performers can be so
>> > technically brilliant but soulless, some people have the ability to 
>> > make
>> > every note reach inside and grab you.
>>
>> Why are some people my friends and others my enemies? How does someone
> new say
>> or do something that touches me so deeply I feel that I've known them 
>all
> my
>> life?  Music is that.  There's grace and beauty but the rest is a
> mysterious
>> chemistry.
>>
>> Peace,
>> Kevin
>> www.TheNettles.com
>>
>>
>>
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