Re: My Conversation to MAX/MSP - Now Includes Looper

["Krispen Hartung" <khartung@cableone.net>]

Thanks for the replies. See my responses below.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: todd reynolds

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> Krispen, I remain impressed with your setup, and I will go back to 
>trying 
> Jeff's looper again.  really tough on me not to be able to sync with 
> soundfiles in Ableton.

Yes, this could pose a challenge, but I think it could be done in Max. Max 
can read any MIDI message and do whatever you want with it. But this would 
require some very complex coding in Max, something that neither Jeff nor I 
are up to, as we are both asynchronous loopers. You could allow Max to 
read 
any MIDI message and then sync loops according to that data.

> but someone save me from hardware devices!  Krispen, have you had any 
>luck 
> with emulating a replace function at all?  My Max/MSP chops are not so 
> good that I can program lfo's to drop sound out or sample small bits of 
>a 
> sound file.

I just talked to Kaiser about this. It can be done. It would require that 
a 
new buffer be created, which would mix the content of the old buffer with 
your new inserted content. Apparently it requires the groove~ object in 
Max. 
I'm not sure, but it can be done.

Also, I just found out that some Max folks are overdubbing as well, which 
means that we should be able to do insert. Apparently, this requires the 
poke~ object. Kaiser just sent me a max looping object written by someone 
else that is like a traditional looper...it records, overdubs, allows 
pitch 
change while overdubbing, etc. I'm checking this out now.

Kris

---- Original Message ----- 
From: "Per Boysen

>> I'll investigate Rate Shift with Kaiser. I like that feature too!

>Cool! Ask him to make it assignable to both notes and CC#. That way
you can "play" chord changes by feet from pedals sending MIDI note
numbers and you can also "scratch" the loop from a MIDI expression
pedal.

He will work on rate shift, eventually. However, based on what I know 
about 
what you do in Mobius, I think this could be done with pitch change (the 
gizmo~ object). Basically, I could add a MAX pitch object to the looper 
object, such that when I record a loop, I can change the pitch of the 
input 
signal. How we do this, whether with MIDI program changes, CC#, expression 
pedal, etc...it doesn't matter to MAX. You can take any MIDI data and tell 
MAX do translate it in any way you like. Heck, if you wanted to, you could 
tell Max to do a pitch shift every time it reads a particular frequency. 
It's all in the programming.

>> - Variable speed (forward and backward) controlled via a knob

>Hey - does this change the rate (pitch) as well?



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Per Boysen" <perboysen@gmail.com>