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RE: Echoplex -- Wanted: The optimum way to synch with the rhythmsection or vice versa



I think the Beat Synch jack gives out a pulse,,i dont know how long your phrases are if it is in the 1-8 second mark you will probably be good out of the box as it where, if not i think you may need to adjust the 8/th parameter on the echopleax so it gives out more or less clicks to suit the lenght of phrase you are playing.
 
anyways, this click is not musical or paticularly nice to listen to ...but it might fill the problem you are having in a crude way.
 
the other option I can see is use any midi based signal generator such as a drum machine or sequencer box to send out a simple constant beat for your band to hear via monitor. for this i would connect the midi out of the edp to the midi IN of the drum box ...then inside the edp set the sync to OUS and the sync on drum machine to IN....OUS means that it will suspend sending the start click until the first loop is closed.
 
you could of course get a metronome that syncs to midi and have it set to OUT with the midi sync set to IN on the edp...then you would all have to have access to the metronome click which creates more issuse and also means  its harder for you as the lead performer to break out of this without adjustments.
 
good luck
 
Phill 

> Date: Mon, 12 May 2008 01:55:21 -0700
> From: lavaspin@yahoo.com
> Subject: Echoplex -- Wanted: The optimum way to synch with the rhythm section or vice versa
> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>
> Dear esteemed loopers:
>
> What's the best way to stay synched with my rhythm
> section when using the Echoplex?
>
> I've scanned the archives (and the manual) and can't
> seem to find what I'm looking for regarding synching,
> although I'm sure it's there -- just in a form I can
> decipher. I just got a new Echoplex (yes the
> Musician's Friend sale), I had a Digitech Jamman
> before. We were trying the Jamman in live situations
> and it had its limits (for example, the rhythm section
> had a hard time hearing the first loop, even if I
> added only one overdub), so I have upgraded. I'm a
> guitar player more than a techie, so please help me
> understand the best -- and simplest -- way to stay
> synched. I will usually lay down only one loop so that
> I can play lead over a rhythm part -- so a fairly
> simple and clean way to use the Echoplex. Here are the
> three general options I see for assuring we, the band,
> stay synched. Which of the following three would you
> suggest is best for the Echoplex in the live setting?
>
> 1. First idea: Have some kind of machine (what kind is
> best/simplest?) acting as a metronome. The machine
> sends a click to the drummer and the bass player, who
> maybe use in the ear monitors. The machine also sends
> a click to the Echoplex and keeps it in time with the
> machine. If this is the option you suggest, which of
> synch options do I use on the Echoplex -- I got
> confused by all the variations.
>
> 2. Second idea: Basically the reverse of the above. I
> lay down a loop and it sends an eighth note click to
> in the ear monitors, so they rhythm section stays in
> time with the loop.
>
> 3. Third idea: Somehow split the first loop from the
> overdubs, so that I can have a monitor (standard or in
> the ear, since no click involved) for the drummer and
> bass player that is playing only the first loop so
> they can clearly hear it.
>
> I realize this is really basic or has been covered
> before. I appreciate anyone who can help me out with this.
>
>
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