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"You'd need a pretty smart sample player, with many layers of samples being triggered under different circumstances to do a reasonable job, and even then the nature of MIDI would frequently defeat you (depending on controller and its match to the instrument being modelled)." A pretty complicated process indeed...but that is of course if the aim was to imitate the instrument in real time. All those nuances could be put together if one were to programme it in slowly keeping in mind the instrument. one would ask..why go through the hassle, just play the guitar and record it? I guess it would be that the sampler is the instrument that i wish to learn not the guitar. In the case of the conga, I have learnt it to an extent but struggle to get a good sound for recording (injuy/newbie recording chops). It would not take long for me to mimic all the nuances of playing conga if they were made available to me but, like you say, i would if i were to play the sampler live and map piano movements to conga sounds. All is well in the realm of programming. but i think it is possible to say take 16 conga samples and assign them to say a trigger finger and practice finger excersices using the trigger finger as virtual conga. (not so painful, great on quality. but the guitar would present more of a translation challenge. I guess i want the sampler to be a kind of 'any instrument'. learn the techniques of the sampler well enough and have access to any sound without going through the years of learning various techniques..and stil be able to 'play' it live, perhaps a deadend since i woudnt be able t visualise the techniques in the programming of melodys, grooves or in the mapping it to a triiger finger or three...and would only just pass as 'ok sounding' to have all perc instruments at my disposal with one controller, one technique to learn and the ultimate in portability (with the one draw back of being 'inauthentic') But the people in my generation like that inauthentic sound- so its all good these kids, always looking for shortcuts around years of hard work errr... was i babbliing? just trying to make music like the sounds i hear in my head. On 11/30/08, Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com> wrote: > You can replicate a single note via a sampler pretty darned well. What is > much harder to replicate realistically are incidental noises and > non-pianistic techniques in a particular idiom (especially if you're >trying > to trigger them via MIDI, an extremely keyboard-centric view of the >world). > Even playing a single note on my guitar - how hard I pluck it determines > both how "slappy" (as in bass slapping) it sounds, and also how much of a > little fret buzz coming in after the 2nd note hits. And the attack of the > 2nd note, being a hammer-on, is quite different than the attack of the >first > (and is impossible for the sampler to even begin to model, since all it >gets > is a MIDI pitch change message from the controller - how does it know >it's a > hammer?). You'd need a pretty smart sample player, with many layers of > samples being triggered under different circumstances to do a reasonable > job, and even then the nature of MIDI would frequently defeat you >(depending > on controller and its match to the instrument being modelled). > > > > > On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 8:26 AM, SP Goodman <spgoodman@earthlight.net> > wrote: > > > > > > > > From: mark francombe > > > > > > > > > > > I never found a way to > > > > satisfactorily replicate Tablas, for instance. . > > > > > > > > > > No-one ever found a way to replicate any acoustic instrument. > > > > > > andy butler > > > > > > > > > > Nanotechnology? > > > > PS, are you sure? On a recording? I bet you can... dont see the point > tho... > > > > Attempting to replicate is far too much work unless that's all one is > striving to do, I guess. I wanted to make music with Tablas, not learn >how > to replicate them. > > > >