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Re: MY NEW TOY




seems to have a basic but nice looper as well with record,play,play once 
,overdub and reverse not bad but ouch the price hurts...

www.myspace.com/luisangulocom


--- Mark Sottilaro <zerocrossing@gmail.com> schrieb am Di, 30.6.2009:

> Von: Mark Sottilaro <zerocrossing@gmail.com>
> Betreff: Re: MY NEW TOY
> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
> Datum: Dienstag, 30. Juni 2009, 11:29
> Word on the street is that if you
> want *the best* then the Axe-FX is
> the route to go:
> 
> http://www.fractalaudio.com/products-fa-axefx.html
> 
> I have no experience with them but the demos sound great:
> (even with
> youtube compression)
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ubu8A_wmmNI&fmt=18
> 
> The cost seems prohibitive to me, but if you've got the
> cash and want
> the best maybe it's worth it. I found my Vox Tonelab/VF-1
> combo to be
> good enough for me, and Amplitube to be even better. One
> thing that
> sold me on the software route is that if I want to do
> something that's
> not possible in a hardware set up without a bunch of
> re-routing I can
> do it effortlessly and then call it up as a preset.
> 
> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 7:56 AM, Jeff Duke<jeff_d@embarqmail.com>
> wrote:
> > thanks Andy,
> >
> > but you did answer it really. It's funny but i
> recently compiled alot of my
> > tunes  for release on Bandcamp. I realized that the
> best (meaning my
> > favorite) sounds were all direct into the board
> recordings. i have used
> > whatever amp/speaker modelers I had in whatever fx box
> I was using at the
> > time. All the newer stuff was done while wearing
> headphones in a quiet
> > apartment.
> > I arrange it so that my chain is distortion/fuzz into
> amp modelers
> > (currently Digitech RP 250  and or Korg AX 3000G)
> into modfx/delay/reverb
> > into loopers into sometimes more mangle fx into mixer.
> Not the best way but
> > there ya go. i stay stereo from the outputs of the
> multi fx boxes. i really
> > want a proper mixer so that i can feed more of
> everything into everything
> > else sort of :)
> > All that said i still believe that a good real amp
> cranked up sounds better.
> > I just can't do that anymore in real life. I guess it
> come down to good tone
> > being subjective. I am always looking for "the" sound.
> hmmm, maybe this?
> > http://www.beavisaudio.com/Projects/DBS/
> >
> > And your right about Bill Walker! He has the "tone"!
> >
> > First cup 'o coffee wearing off, gotta go get more!
> >
> > best,
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> >
> > Ad astra per alia porci - Steinbeck
> >
> >
> > http://jeffduke.org/
> > http://www.myspace.com/loopsinphasespace
> > http://jeffduke.bandcamp.com/
> > http://www.ustream.tv/channel/loopydroneyglitchywacky-presents
> > http://www.justin.tv/loopslab
> > http://www.vimeo.com/jeffduke
> > http://www.reverbnation.com/thejeffduke
> > http://virb.com/jeffduke
> > http://themineisthemind.blogspot.com/
> > http://www.youtube.com/user/sticky899
> > http://www.sugarat.org/tecbab/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "andy butler"
> <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk>
> > To: <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 10:15 AM
> > Subject: Re: MY NEW TOY
> >
> >
> >> Jeff Duke wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Rather than put two amp sims after the fx,
> surely it would be neater to
> >>>> put one amp sim between guitar and fx.
> >>>
> >>> What would you recommend in a stereo amp sim
> Andy?
> >>>
> >>> Jeff
> >>>
> >>
> >> Oh, I'm probably the worst person to ask about amp
> sims ;-)
> >> Ask Bill Walker.
> >>
> >> I only really started playing electric guitar when
> I started looping,
> >> and while I played bass through a nice valve setup
> for years I eventually
> >> found that it just wouldn't reproduce the sort of
> playing I put into it.
> >> (i.e. I used to sometimes get quite a lot going at
> once, but wasn't
> >> willing to reduce the low frequency content of the
> sound.)
> >>
> >> Hence I now use JBL Eons for everything, and don't
> possess a decent amp
> >> sim.
> >>
> >> Currently I'm experimenting with a Moogerfooger
> Lo-pass to mellow
> >> out the fuzzy tones from my ADA MP1 valve pre.
> >>
> >> However, the raw fuzz/overdrive sounds I use sound
> ok to me, and it seems
> >> also to the audience. Only knowledgeable
> guitarists have sometimes
> >> to worried that I have a flat battery somewhere
> ;-)
> >>
> >> Generally, I reckon that for a looping device, a
> clean full range sound is
> >> preferable
> >> so that the layers can remain distinct in the
> mix.
> >>
> >> Hence I would always put an amp sim before the
> looper, rather than after.
> >> Then it would be possible to build up a mix using
> different amp tones.
> >>
> >> My guess was that Ted wanted to "ampify" his pa
> speakers by putting a
> >> stereo
> >> amp sim (two SansAmps) just in front of them.
> >> It's a different approach...and I don't doubt he'd
> make it work.
> >>
> >> I'd say 'hope that helps', only as I didn't
> >> answer the question......     :-)
> >>
> >> andy
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> 
>