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Rainer Straschill wrote: > Andy Butler asked: > "...but isn't a Moog type analog filter? > If you're familiar with the Moog, how do they compare." > > The Moog filter is a circuit realized with (I believe Ge) diodes, > while the T-Resonator uses a transistor-based design. So no, it isn't > a moog-circuit for the filter. Moog invented/used a ladder arrangement of transistors such as is found here under the heading "resonant filter" http://www.jayemsonic.de/2l4-resonanteneuronen.html as that's the page of one of the Jomox designers I'm guessing that the filter in the *Resonator* might be the same. In essence, the filter boxes are like their neural network synthesizers but with only 2 neurones. Your mention of Germanium might be the key to the difference though. > I haven't taken the time to actually measure the complex frequency > response, but by inspection: > The filter seems much more correct by good circuit design standards - > which doesn't mean it sounds better. The most important difference is > that it's next to impossible to get the filter to distort in the > screaming moog-style way. However, including a distortion stompbox in > your setup can help with that. > > "A moog filter can oscillate with a lovely delicate silvery tone, as > long as resonance is tweaked carefully. > Can the T-Res manage that? " > > As above: no, because it won't distort the same way as a moog filter. Perhaps I should rephrase. Can the T-Res sustain a pure sounding sine wave by resonance and not always end up with a loud distorted tone? Actually, the Moog filter I have is incredibly clean and accurate when not overloaded. Very noticeable in that sounds with high resonance are still very clean. :-) or that's how it sounds to me anyway Anyway, to sustain a tone by resonance at low level there must be a subtle non-linearity, so I agree that if the "way it distorts" is different then the oscillation sound has to be different. > The filter oscillation (in negative feedback) is more theremin-like distorted? > Now that I had a few more days to play with it, here's some additional > comment to my first post: > > The trick really is to not use it as a stereo device, but to patch the > output of channel 1 into the input of channel 2 and, if you like so, > to put a (analogue - 'cause of headroom you might require) distortion > box in between. > This does not only work great for working on rave-like synth lines (as > I mentioned in my last post), but also for no-input noise settings. > By careful combination of envelope, lfo, feedback and delay effect > settings, you can create really odd chaotic settings - like just the > T-Resonator delievering short low-frequency pulses at a constant > 130bpm rate, and after a ever-changing, non-systematic number of > pulses generating a filter-sweeping scream (which, although it sounds > different, even you as a Moog filter lover would enjoy). sounds like fun, so you're putting a distortion box into a feedback path. It sounds like you'd enjoy http://www.jomox.com/product_details.php?lang=2&category=2&product_id=9 > > Again, perhaps I'll do some video - perhaps tomorrow will be a good day. Many thanks for the report Rainer. I'm thinking of recommending this to a friend who's into creating music with feedback, ...but always delicate tones, so hence the picky questions. Looking forward to your vid if it happens. andy > > Yours, > > Rainer > >