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Re: tweek-o-mania.....M 13



ah yes, the v2.0 upgrade, I did do that, so yeah, 100 effects.  in fact, I am glad I did, because until the script phase effect, I wasn't too crazy about the phasers.  and yes, the effects loop, with that, along with MIDI and say you had a MIDI controlled looper, wire all that up, and run a looper in the effects loop, Basically, Rainer, you sould have effects before and after the looper, while having an onboard looper to boot, loops upon loops... madness, I tell you.

--- On Wed, 3/31/10, Jeff Shirkey <jcshirke@verizon.net> wrote:

From: Jeff Shirkey <jcshirke@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: tweek-o-mania.....M 13
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 8:23 PM


Correct, think of it as having 75 separate stompboxes, but you can only use up to four at a time.  Aside from that limitation, you can order them any way you want.  I've even experimented with some downright odd options.

Now the count is over 100 stompboxes. Did you upgrade yours to v. 2.0? If not, you definitely should.


  a "scene" is basically a layout of 12 effects.  for instance, pick 12 effects.  lay them out how you want to use them, say, a wah then a distortion, followed by a modulation effect then a delay for the top row of buttons.  The middle row, repeat with different effects as you would need, say compression, filter, etc.  then the bottom row the same way.  that would comprise a scene.  Imagine having 4 stompboxes, each with three presets, that would best describe it.

The only thing I'd clarify based on what you wrote above is the last sentence. A scene consists of all of the settings you've made for all 12 of your "stomp boxes". I think the thing Rainer may have been confused about is this. Let's say you have a Tube Screamer in fx block 1C. You don't have to have another Tube Screamer with a "tweak" in settings 1B or 1A. You can have any effect you'd like in any of the 12 fx locations. 

As you said, only 4 fx blocks are active at a time. But you have the possibility of putting 12 different fx in any of the fx "blocks" (as I keep calling them). Or you could have 6 different Tube Screamer settings in a scene--if you so desired. Whatever floats your boat.

The bottom line is that a scene is like a snapshot of the fx configurations you've made for all 3 rows of 4 fx. Or, from the Advanced User's Manual:

To clarify what we mean by a Scene, it’s basically the equivalent of a unique pedal board setup, which you can program yourself. It includes up to 4 active FX and another 8 FX set up but bypassed. When you select a particular Scene, a combination of 4 active FX is immediately loaded into your M13. The other 8 FX will also be loaded, but bypassed. You can switch any of the 8 FX on at any time, replacing any of the 4 you started with. 



And that's just one scene. You can save 12 scenes per folder. And you have 4 folders. That's 48 total scenes. And that's a whole lot o' stuff.

I'm racking mine with other gear, and with MIDI control over the ability to call up scenes, bypass any of the effects, including the fx loop (don't forget about the fx loop), it's darn powerful.

Jeff