Re: syncing in mainstage

[Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>]

Hi Sim,

I have no idea why Delay Designer doesn't pick up the host tempo.
Could it be that its delay is set to an odd length? I mean so that it
actually is "synced" but you will only notice every fifty sixth
beat... or something...?

Throwing in some personal Augustus Loop experiences here while waiting
for OS to chime in:

At least that can be the case with the Agustus Loopers. They are
designed as a tape loop simulation and tape never sync exactly right
on. I once built a functional duplicate of an EDP in Ableton Live by
using Augstus Looper instances and that's when I discovered this
"organic" quality of AL. But that's what I like with it! :-)  You can
get some "loop windowing" happening by tap dancing the Reverse or
Triplet button and also by changing Beat Divisor (in AL's "Sync"
area). That's very cool but definitely "not syncing".

The way I have found AL to sync fine is to use its "Freeze Loop"
function to sort of "open input to the instantly recording virtual
tape loop". This is syncing fine for me. But then I tend to change the
content of the loops quite often. If intending to make a loop and keep
it running for long time, eventually layering some overdubs, the
Loopback plug-in is better choice. I've used both the Playback and the
Loopback with a live band and then it worked fine.  Even to set the
tempo for Mainstage by catching a loop in one of the Loopback
plug-ins.

I suggest you try out all optional AL Sync settings and see what
happens! There is also the OSC trick to sync a bunch of AL instances
very hard, but I have not tried that yet (only noticed it when
scanning the manual). Oh, and don't forget to click the "Prefs" button
to check out those settings; for example having "Rounded Tempo"
activated would cripple host sync capabilities of the plug-in.

Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se
www.perboysen.com
www.looproom.com internet music hub



On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Simeon Harris
<simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote:
> chaps - i'm trying to sync a variety of plugins in mainstage and having 
>some
> problems
>
> i have 2 instances of augustus loop
> the playback plugin
> a delay designer plugin
> and a variety of other plugins, including gateboy and audiodamge bigseq
>
> i'm using the mainstage clock as the master and i'm hitting "play" to 
>set it
> running
>
> it's mainly the augustus loopers i'm having trouble with....they just 
>won't
> lock, even though i have "host sync" ON and midi clock out on "pause"
>
> each looper has a tempo display, which is showing the same value as the 
>"tap
> tempo" value in mainstage, but they run ahead of the beat (and they'r not
> even synced to each other)
>
> i tried setting the tempo to "midi in" in mainstage and selecting one of 
>the
> augustus loopers as the master. i changed the settings on that looper by
> turning "host sync" OFF and enabling midi clock out, but that didn't work
> either
>
> the playback plugin seems to be syncing ok, and the other plugins, like
> gateboy and big seq are ok, but the instance of delay designer i have 
>set up
> to pump out a rhythmic, infinite delay pattern isn't
>
> anybody got any tips?
>
> i havn't tried syncing to external clock yet...basically because i don't
> want to have to do it
>
> sim
>
>
>