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[Matt Davignon <mattdavignon@gmail.com>]

Mental note - people don't like the subject of laptop looping?

On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 10:11 PM, donald freeman <dfreeman120@gmail.com> 
wrote:
> Unsubscribe
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> On Jun 10, 2010 9:08 PM, "Dennis Moser" <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> What Per said...go with the Intel model and you should be just fine.
>
> Best,
>
> Dennis
>
> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 4:58 AM, Nadia Salom <nadia.salom@gmx.de> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I have looked into hackintosh but I am not a programmer and I dont 
>think I
>> could do this on my own. And Linux would be an option but... I dont 
>know.
>> I
>> am thinking of just getting a used iBook, macbook or power book...
>> for example...
>>
>> Apple iBook G4 1.33 GHz 12"  1GB Ram
>> 40 GB Harddrive... ( 300 euro)
>>
>> Apple PowerBook G4 12" 1,5Ghz 1,25GBRam 80Gb HDD SD (min. 300 euros)
>>
>> Apple Powerbook G4,17",1GHz,Airport, BT, 1,5GB, 80GB (375euros)
>>
>> APPLE MACBook 2GHZ 160GB 2GB Intel Core 2Duo (500euros)
>
>>
>> i think all they would be fast enough for live performance...playing 
>some
>> midi instruments, sa...
>
>> -------- Original-Nachricht --------
>> Datum: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 12:17:18 +0900
>> Von: michael noble <looplog@gmail.com>
>> An: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
>> Betreff: Re: looping with a netbook
>>
>> hi all,
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Mech <mech@m3ch.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> However, there was a previous question that asked about running Live in
>>> Wine under Linux.  While Linux should be more robust overall, I believe
>>> the
>>> Wine libraries essentially load a virtual Windows machine.  So you're
>>> kind
>>> of running a computer inside a computer. Not very efficient, I don't
>>> believe, and I wouldn't recommend it, since Wine would probably eat up
>>> any
>>> performance gains you'd get from Linux.  However, take that with a 
>grain
>>> of
>>> salt, since I haven't actually played with Wine since its alpha 
>releases.
>>
>> This is not really accurate to my knowledge, and certainly does not
>> reflect
>> my experience. Wine is no way a virtual machine. It is really nothing 
>more
>> than a compatibility layer to translate windows api calls into something
>> the
>> base system understands - it doesn't emulate software or hardware in any
>> way. This will add a small processing overhead, but it really is very
>> insignificant. Chances are, with a well configured linux system,
>> performance
>> can be comparable to a windows system with the benefit of also being 
>able
>> to
>> use native linux audio apps.
>>
>> In the past I've run audiomulch under linux in this way, and in fact was
>> easily able to run eight simultaneous instances of audiomulch 
>(preferring
>> parallel processes for performance and redundancy), passing their audio
>> into
>> jack to be shared with linux apps and each other. With things like the
>> wineasio audio output and the realtime wine patches, wine audio apps can
>> be
>> made to run very efficiently and at low latencies. This was an older
>> core2duo though, so a netbook would be a little more limited. Also, it's
>> not
>> an out-of-the-box experience, so if system configuration and 
>optimization
>> is
>> not your thing, then maybe consider the hackintosh route. (that being 
>said
>> there are some audio-centric linux audio distros optimized for low power
>> machines like puredyne, and you can also buy a preconfigured msi-wind
>> netbook with the Tranmission OS for not much more than a standard 
>netbook
>> price).
>>
>> So to answer the OPs question, windows audio apps can be made to run 
>very
>> efficiently under linux and with very low latencies. That being said, I
>> really couldn't say about running later versions of ableton live. I 
>don't
>> have nor need it so I haven't tested it. It is rated gold over at 
>WineHQ,
>> so
>> it has certainly been tested and run by at least some people, and that's
>> without the tweaks I mentioned above.
>>
>> -michael
>>
>>
>>
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