DD-20 (was Re: Boomerang 3)

[Mark Hamburg <mark@grubmah.com>]

So, I take it you are using one of the delay modes on the DD-20 as opposed 
to the sound-on-sound mode? The description on the BOSS site seemed to 
suggest that the sound-on-sound mode can't go straight into overdub (the 
essential trick to creating seamless drones).

Mark
                
On Nov 1, 2010, at 7:56 PM, Jeff Duke wrote:

> ah, stiff! ok, I'll try...... Sorry ahead of time from the future. (I 
>have read what I wrote now). 
> 
> When using a long delay for looping such as the Boss DD 20.... I will 
>focus on what it can do that a phrase sampler such as the 2880/M9 and 
>Boomer + can't.
> 
> I can set the loop length before I press the effect on button by tapping 
>the external momentary button. Or I can have it recording  and set it on 
>the fly. I do it both ways.
> 
> With it off  I can tap the loop length up to 23 sec then press the on 
>button to begin playing/recording. Feedback is already on at whatever I 
>have set it for. I can re tap the loop length shorter with one tap before 
>I reach the max that is set or twice to set a longer loop (this is hard 
>to explain but easy to do). This makes it very easy to zero in or correct 
>the loop length in an improv situation. Re triggering the loop length is 
>very important to me.
> 
> Also the feedback knob may be adjusted at any time. Or I can get a riff 
>or phrase going, turn the FB knob all the way up for infinite repeats. 
>Press the effect off button and play over the top. Backing off a bit on 
>the fb knob so it begins to fade I can press the advance preset and go to 
>the next slot with it's own FB, loop level, loop length already set and 
>ready to tweak the same way. In the meantime loop 1 is still fading out 
>at whatever I have left it set at. And so on through the 5 preset 
>locations.The caveat is that after more than one advance it cuts off the 
>first one and you can't go back to an earlier one to tweak again. Not 
>really an issue for me.
> 
> I rarely get clicks from re triggering it this way, I get smooth drones 
>always. It is a very free, expressive way to loop for me being an all 
>improv hard ambient guy. Being able to leave one loop fading out while 
>bringing in another is free and not stiff.
> 
> I use it before the 2880 and after the M9 looper for the best of both 
>worlds sort of :) The thing is that delays can't or haven't been made 
>that can do the octave/reverse/stutter thing. Only phrase samplers can do 
>that (so far).
> 
> Sorry for the ramble. I guess stiff for me means being locked into a 
>looped phrase with no way out except to let it fade if I'm lucky enough 
>to have some kind of feedback control or just stop it cold. No way to 
>adjust the length/feedback on the fly.
> 
>  I do see that the Boomerang III with the expression pedal could be the 
>perfect replacement for my 2880 which is what I had started this thread 
>about oh so long ago, lol. The 2880 lacks headroom!!! I still need a good 
>phrase sampler for the reverse/octave on the fly stuff.