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ok 4500 norsk kroner... doesnt quite line up actually... ill figure out what i paid In $ later...sorry for getting u exited... Sent from my (advertisement removed) On 29 Nov 2011, at 01:41, Kevin Cheli-Colando <billowhead@gmail.com> wrote: > Where did you get it for less than $500? I'm seeing a street price of > $700-800 without the pickup? > > At $500 I'm ready to add another thing to the floor. > > Kevin > > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 3:44 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> > wrote: >> Absolutely Bill, I should point out here that Ive been VERY VERY >> harsh... I >> am trying to point out what I see wrong in this unit. I should also say >> that >> there is a lot to this thing... If you left off the modelled guitar >> tones >> (and yes they should have) you are still left with pretty great synth.. >> theyre is alot of electronica sounds here,and as I mentioned, I like >> them >> all... but.. there is just too much fluff! Too many things to cringe at >> and >> move on... I wouldnt mix it with analog effects at all Bill, but I dont >> see >> the need... >> >> You ask who is this aimed at? >> Bill, it costs less than 500 dollars... so ANYONE... 30 years ago, that >> kind >> of money got me an amp and a fuzzbox... >> There is SHIT LOADS in this pedal... SHIT LOADS... as in Good shit and >> Bad... >> >> M >> >> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 12:31 AM, William Walker >> <billwalker@baymoon.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> Hey Mark please tell us how you really feel!!!!! I appreciate your >>> candor >>> truly , i have stayed away from this topic because Roland's commitment >>> to >>> guitar synthesis has seemed in long steady decline and this latest >>> addition >>> continued the disappointment . i didn't want a modeling amp i wanted a >>> new >>> improved guitar synth with a "great" and varied synth engine that would >>> please both vintage synth and electronica guys, as well as great >>> orchestral >>> sounds, ethnic sounds etc.......with a real programable arpeggiator, >>> not >>> seen sense the GR-30, which i still have tucked in to a shelf in my >>> studio >>> room. But no, what they delivered was part guitar synth, part >>> modeling amp, >>> part effects processor , part looper, and i don't think it does any of >>> those >>> things well. As far as modeling amps go, it seems the only one worth >>> having >>> is the Axe-fx and when I look at spending that kind of money I start >>> thinking of buying a new Laptop or how many cool affordable tube amps >>> I >>> could buy, like the chinese made vox 15, it may not be point to point >>> wired >>> like the old ones but it sounds amazing. but that's just me. One thing >>> I >>> have not been happy about the response of with modeling amps, in >>> addition to >>> the "something's missing" sound, is what happens when you put analog >>> gain >>> devices in front of it like stomp box distortions. it seems like the >>> don't >>> have the headroom to accomodate the gain and get even more harsh >>> sounding. >>> I can't figure out who Roland's target audience is with this device >>> but it >>> ain't me babe, no no no it ain't me babe. But its also very possible >>> someone will take it, design some cool sounds with it and make some >>> interesting music with it. >>> Bill >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Mark Francombe >> www.markfrancombe.com >> www.ordoabkhao.com >> http://vimeo.com/user825094 >> http://www.looop.no >> twitter @markfrancombe >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/24478662@N00/ >> >> > > > > -- > Till now you seriously considered yourself to be the body and to have a > form. That is the primal ignorance which is the root cause of all > trouble. > > - Ramana Maharshi (1879-1950) > > Sound and Vision: http://www.minds-eye.org > Video http://www.vimeo.com/user877640/videos >