Re: loops with a drummer?

[Teddy Kumpel <teddykumpel@mac.com>]

ya, I like that too, very interesting... leaves a lot of possibilities open

my music is improvised too, just so we're on the same page

a lot of times I will tap in a tempo that is a subdivision of what we had 
been playing for the previous 5 minutes... like dotted quarter notes.... 
that always makes for some fun results similar to what you're talking 
about.

All my drummers have been happy to play with the click track. 
Professionals in NYC do that all the time, so it's old hat for these 
guys... we do it in synch, but the word strict doesn't enter into it...

where do you live?

Teddy

On Apr 1, 2012, at 12:58 PM, Dave Draper wrote:

> Ah, interesting topic!
> I've never met a drummer who's /happy/ to be a slave to a loop! (/They/ 
> set the rhythm, right?)
> However I've played with a couple who are happy to play /with/ loops.
> The difference for me, in improvised music, is that neither the drummer 
> nor the loop is the master, rather there may be loops, there may be drum 
> rhythms; sometimes the drummer reacts to a loop & plays what /he(/she)/ 
> hears - it might not be the same rhythm/time signature that the loop was 
> originally played in, but it often adds a kind of rhythmic counterpoint. 
> My next decision is whether to retrigger or change the loop, or more 
> usually, go with the drummer's interpretation. That way we get to 
> different places than either of us would reach individually, or by being 
> in a master/slave relationship.
> Otherwise it's up to me to 'play' the looper/one-shot sampler to make 
> sense of the drum rhythm.
> It's a great combination, but there ain't many drummers (or other 
> acoustic players!) that are keen on the combination.
> It does require an approach to looping that's /not/ based on strict 
> MIDI-or-any-other sync though; you need to be in manual, instant control 
> of your looper, just like you are of your instrument (of which it's 
> part, of course!!)
> Dave
> 
> 
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