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Re: KILL SWITCH/electric guitar recommendations?



Thanks to everybody who posted. This is all very useful info, and who hasn't wanted to be David Torn (or Tom Morello)?

(Don't worry, Rick: we won't harass you about your secret guitar... but we wanna know all the gory detail when you decide it's time to reveal them.)

 
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From: mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com>
To: loopers-delight <Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com>
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 3:46 AM
Subject: Re: KILL SWITCH/electric guitar recommendations?

I should mention that MY kill switch is not based on these diagrams either ha ha. Infact, Im not sure that I like the idea of "push to kill" anyhow! It seems against the way that we "play" instruments. We tend to want to PUSH a thing to make a noise, not release a thing!

If we take the Tom Morello technique as ground zero, then you will see that he still uses a SWITCH.. not a button. of the demos I have seen of people trying to do that effect with a monetary button, they cant do it right (if they are after that effect, which I guess they are).

Personally I use a switch (Is is called 2 pole or 2 gang?) that switches from the pickups to a spare jack socket (an INput) So I can velcro things to my guitar (in my case Ive collected all the Buddah boxes, they are light and plastic and stay on with Velcro) and can switch between guitar and noise. OR I turn off the Buddah box for Kill Switching, or I can not play the guitar for Buddah box kill switching... I have a silver small flight case full of small device, like Walkmans, radios that I can insert into this jack.

I first saw THIS technique doen by my favorite Japanese Punk Band "Melt Banana"!! Before I had even heard of Tome Morrello actually, although was aware of his Rage against the machine band, but had found it not to my particular flavour of Tea.

Mark


On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm doing it by the opposite direction using a LIVE SWITCH! A foot cotrolled momentary pad that lets sound through while pressed down but is "killing" when not touched. I can also deactivate the Live Switch so I won't have to constantly step on it (for "normal rig functionality"). My prefered signal chain level for the switch is after distortion and filtering units but before reverb and delay lines.

Den fredagen den 23:e augusti 2013 skrev mark francombe:

I dont know what you are asking really Rick!

No one BUYS a killswitch.. theres no special kill switches out there (the link you sent looked like it was meant for something else, I cant imagine whacking down on a pot is either A) very efficient B) good for the pot.

Just buy any momentary switch, choose the one that looks good to you, as you say an old couple a video game switches would look GREAT, I think that in reality they are also in need of a hefty old THWACK I would go for the lightest touch you can find, quite large too. Unfortunately (as I have discovered when making mine) the bigger they are the further that they intrude into the guitar. You need a low, flush switch.

As for the circuit, theres 2. 
Dependant on whether its a "Normally ON" switch, or a "Normally OFF" switch
Thus...
anyway, YOU of all people know this, your Walker Glitch pedal is a bunch of killswitches right?

So, what was the question again?






On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 4:33 AM, Charles Zwicky <cazwicky@earthlink.net> wrote:
The Kill switch on David Torn's Teufel guitar was a very short travel membrane switch, similar to the switches under the buttons of a multieffect processor.  It has a very fast tactile response.


At 6:27 PM -0700 8/22/13, Rick Walker wrote:
I had a URL for a  KILL SWITCH for a custom tenor guitar
I"m having made, but it no longer is extant.

These came highly recommended and I wondered if anyone has any experience with them.
http://www.shadow-electronics.com/viewart.html?id=309&search=1

But I've also heard that video game switches can be faster to manipulate than
typical guitar styled 'kill switches'.

The standard toggle switch on a guitar is not really fast enough for very
quick 'slicing and dicing' techniques,  so I wondered,  what's the poop
on KILL SWITCHES?

Anyone know what Torn uses,   out of curiosity?

Thanks,

Rick Walker


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