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Re: Diethelm's unique delay + pitch music

could we maybe centralize such PD efforts on Livelooping.org?

On 161213 11:20, Sylvain Poitras wrote:
Some of my Pd patches in action, running on the organelle:


Links to patches are in the video descriptions.


On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 7:38 AM, Dave Draper <dh.draper@virgin.net
<mailto:dh.draper@virgin.net>> wrote:

    Hi Matthias, et al

    I too am intrigued by this. I currently use a pitch
    shifting/mangling sampler/delay/looper thing I built in bidule,
    although the results are considerably more anarchic than Thomas!

    I also have a Bela/BeagleBone thing, on which I intend to run PD,
    though I'm making slow progress getting my head round PD so far!  :(

    Any help in the form of patches that parallel what I'm doing in
    bidule would be very welcome!

    Dave Draper

    On 07/12/2016 09:31, Matthias Grob wrote:

    its actually not MAX but PD and yes I have them... where should I
    put them up?

    On 161206 17:25, Art Simon wrote:
    Matthias do you know if the MAX patches that Thomas used are

    On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 12:10 PM, Art Simon <simart@gmail.com
    <mailto:simart@gmail.com>> wrote:

        Thank you Matthias for documenting his legacy. I'm very much
        enjoying Guiteros.

        On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 9:03 AM, <matilists@gmail.com
        <mailto:matilists@gmail.com>> wrote:

            I update here a mail I wrote in 1997:

            Thomas Diethelm is a Swiss nylon guitar virtuoso that
            made some success in Europe mid 80ies using a unique kind
            of LiveLooping:

            He was rather of the individual kind, had his own strong
            style (literaly, he was a champion in spear throwing,
            before dedicating to the guitar!), a virtuoso as long as
            playing his own compositions and using his AMS DMX 15-80S
            digital delay and pitch

            He wanted to live on his music and tried to be popular.
            He used to say that he needs to create 'liedli', little
            songs - as opposed to the instrumental compositions he
            would naturally create. Its a pity he neither made the
            big success he would deserve for his ability nor do we
            have the music that really came to him... but its still
            very amazing and unique what he left us!

            His main technique was to set up a pattern of delayed
            pitch transpositions.
            So each note he played turned into a short melody of 2 to
            6 notes. For each
            song, he used specific patterns and composed using the
            delayed transposed
            This may sounds trivial, but once you listen to his
            records (about 6 of
            them, “Valeys in my Head" I would recommend most) you get
            impressed how far
            he went with this technique.
            From this album on he also used a Paradis Hexaphonic
            guitar with Polydistortion effect he faded in to set accents.

            Often he quickly alternated between chords and melody
            playing and due to the
            delay both were constantely present and due to the
            pitch shift, there was no impression of repetition. The
            limitation of this
            technique made him creative in terms of composition and
            gave his own sound.
            Two of the records he made in team with one of the best
            Swiss keyboarders
            Santino Famulari, the others feature an always changing
            good band. only the last album is almost solo I heard him
            often play solo when we worked and always found it
            sounded much more impressive than with the band.

            He complained a lot about the failing (bad contacts)
            expensive and sensible AMS studio
            machine. since he completely depended on it, this might
            even have contributed to the end
            of his career around 1990.

            For 10 years he was happy to sells dried spiced fish (he
            was a brilliant cook, too!).

            around 2005 someone created a special MAX software on a
            WinXP Laptop and he tried a comback with the last
            recording Guiteros.
            then he lost his workshop and living place and had to
            sell his instruments and lost the reason to live and died
            in 2013 rather miserable.

        Art Simon
        simart@gmail.com <mailto:simart@gmail.com>

    Art Simon
    simart@gmail.com <mailto:simart@gmail.com>