From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 1 01:08:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C1C2C3BEE4; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 01:08:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:07:36 -0500 From: Bill Fox Subject: The AM/FM Show Playlist for February 23, 2008 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Message-id: <47C8AC58.6080506@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (Windows/20070509) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79017 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 01:08:27 +0000 (UTC) http://soundscapes.us/amfm/playlists/2008/080223.html The AM/FM Show has two alternating hosts. When I am at the helm, expect to hear electronic, ambient, spacemusic, Progressive Rock, and an eclectic mix of other genres. The show airs from 6:00 am to 8:00 am on WMUH Allentown, 91.7 FM and on the internet. I also host Afterglow every Thursday from 8:00 am to 9:30 am. Show #124 February 23, 2008. On this program, I continued the special on Sequences electronic music magazine. Each contemporary issue comes with a CD. However, the early isses came with a cassette. Issues one through thirteen have been remastered and are now available on CDR in plastic slip covers with artwork and track details. Details are at http://sequencesmagazine.com Phase I/Space: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== VA [Michael Shipway] Arrival Sequences No. 1 VA [Steve Charlton] Intensity Sequences No. 1 VA [Carl Matthews] unknown Sequences No. 1 VA [Dace Thompson] Journey Through the Sequences No. 1 Wastelands Transeive Emor Femus Intrigue (Champagne Lake) The Tangent Project Foregone 2006/2007 Compilation (none) Phase II/Eclectic: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Elivia Melodey The Gnomes Embrace Terra Firma (none) Mico Nonet Paper Sailboat The Marmalade Balloon (Mico Nonet) Mico Nonet The Marmalade The Marmalade Balloon (Mico Balloon Nonet) Mico Nonet Between Two Trees The Marmalade Balloon (Mico Nonet) Mico Nonet Notturno The Marmalade Balloon (Mico Nonet) Mico Nonet Uyku The Marmalade Balloon (Mico Nonet) Phase III/Progressive Rock: ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Port Mahadia I of the Storm Echoes In Time (Giordano) Amaran's Plight Coming of Age Voice in the Light (Progrock) Amaran's Plight Incident at Voice in the Light (Progrock) Haldeman's Lake Amaran's Plight Reflections Part 1 Voice in the Light (Progrock) Ayreon Ride the Comet 01011001 (InsideOut) Ayreon Web of Lies 01011001 (InsideOut) * = excerpt ++ = Advanced CDR from artist VA = Various Artists (compilation) On the next show, I will continue the special on the sampler CDRs that come with each issue of Sequences electronic music magazine. Bill ====================================================================== Host of the AM/FM Show every other Saturday at 6:00 am EST (GMT-5:00). Phase 1: Electronic, ambient, and space music to bring you back from "Beyond the Barriers." Phase 2: Mixed bag of acoustic, electric, pop, or New Age. Phase 3: Progressive rock from past masters to contemporary releases. Web Site - http://soundscapes.us/amfm Listen to WMUH Allentown locally at 91.7 FM or on-line at http://www.muhlenberg.edu/wmuh and click the REAL AUDIO link or go directly to rtsp://helix.muhlenberg.edu:554/broadcast/live.rm Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml ====================================================================== The progdj list is the central clearing house for radio playlists of Progressive Rock programs. Tired of joining dozens of mailing lists to post playlists or track airplay? The progdj list solves that problem. The progdj list is the place to go in order to see playlists and CD and concert reviews by DJs of progressive rock-friendly radio programs. Anyone interested in seeing playlists can join. There is NO SPAM because I keep the spammers out before the members ever see any hint of it. The progdj list is for DJs (obviously!) and band members, record label personnel, promoters, managers, and anyone else interested in seeing what gets played on the air. Need to find who is playing prog on the radio? Go to the progdj list. To join, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/progdj and click on the [Join This Group!] link. ====================================================================== From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 1 01:24:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 46CEC3BEF5; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 01:24:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=Nl+2BwG2gencUZRVxkRDzL2LXeboRbyPXizUEpJGDTg=; b=ZbCvcNJxUhTwm0n1loXS60gUcE2kiUfS3wRTQQmgD6vLVwyqFkB4RM4OFZ4Sy0JHQIJS15CL6MQHKNt4H4ElUHZGMH8q7gRViWT0oCxhi78UgDDxz4P0AYm7EQiP/9HDR2d1R1Al2qkqO06lvI0zwLjGM14MdtbOC3Om1ao36Fw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=Sbw41AdTwWZZzOKNadYA5qK3PL0NSk+I0GndhJI52QiGd2g2eJq0py5WmWFZZf+cCDBCGGo5FjpFfJwybQFyZfbLDSB7tuVSoYTHKfq68UTP+Ndmuk1CUbuZkxl659LdLKfcuB/mBzqn4VxhZICC+y67fXjCUAfSt/5dYIiEe4Q= Message-ID: <26ba8d120802291724w15fc51fmaf8b0d6083204049@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:24:41 -0500 From: "Tom Ritchford" Sender: tom.ritchford@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Let's complain to Roland en masse! (was Re: Boss RC50 delay issues) In-Reply-To: <44D05C6A-83AA-464B-927E-2CEDD2272A7B@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <26ba8d120802251440n7c7cbb48yc174d9127d6288cd@mail.gmail.com> <83D9E5D1-2E61-44A8-B61C-FED3CF886ED4@mac.com> <26ba8d120802260024k50923fffg11f1fb9fa0f5b92e@mail.gmail.com> <47C3D0F4.9040007@tiscali.co.uk> <26ba8d120802261101x60cccaf3kf58e1c635366068e@mail.gmail.com> <26ba8d120802281658j21872f7cw9993fee328522454@mail.gmail.com> <44D05C6A-83AA-464B-927E-2CEDD2272A7B@mac.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: bfec02638adafeaf Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79018 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 01:24:44 +0000 (UTC) Well, of course. I'm not intending to host the videos myself! But we need a central page to point people to with the text explanation. HOWEVER, if sound priority mode really works, I'm a lot less likely to want to do the work. I still haven't had a chance to check it out yet... On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 7:43 AM, Chris Sewell wrote: > Why not just use YouTube? Perspective buyers are always searching for > gear on there. > > > On Feb 28, 2008, at 7:58 PM, Tom Ritchford wrote: > > > I think the website will be really easy to pull off. I just need to > > get a time in front of the camera, or someone else needs to deliver a > > movie, for the ball to be rolling. > > > > Making the website itself, registering, hosting, that's like an hour > > of my time. > > > > I have a theory that once we get a few movies, other people will chime > > in. Or at least, we'll have a few moves. > > > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 9:15 AM, Teddy Kumpel > > wrote: > >> I'm down with this Tom... the RC-50, while my main looper at this > >> point, is > >> really annoying because of the glitches, midi sync and time > >> stretching. > >> > >> which do you think would be more effective, a class action letter > >> from a > >> lawyer or the website? or both have to happen? > >> The suit is a good idea because, after all, their own marketing > >> blurbs tout > >> all those features as key reasons why to buy the thing. > >> > >> teddy k > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On Feb 26, 2008, at 2:01 PM, Tom Ritchford wrote: > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 4:34 AM, doc rossi > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> On Feb 26, 2008, at 9:24 AM, Tom Ritchford wrote: > >>> > >>>> If we make a big fuss, saying, "YOUR UNIT HAS SERIOUS ISSUES AND > >>>> YOU > >>> > >>>> WON'T FIX THEM" then it will be bad PR for them. at least we get > >>>> to > >>>> cost them some $$$.... because if people really believe "they make > >>>> crappy products they won't support" then they won't buy them! > >>> > >>> I appreciate the idea, but I'm not sure they are worried about PR - > >> > >> There isn't a company in the world that sells to consumers that isn't > >> worried about PR. I mean, they care enough to put out their own > >> magazine. > >> > >> Believe you me, this is the sort of conversation that companies are > >> terrified of: > >> > >> "I'm going to get a Roland xxx" > >> "Oh, my friend had endless trouble with Roland's yyy -- don't do it." > >> > >> Whole companies have collapsed based on that sort of thing. > >> > >> If you read the explanation from tech support, it's really > >> dishonest. They > >> don't want to fix their old products because they're busy making new > >> products. In other words, it's a massive con to get your money with > >> products that don't work, and they'll never fix. > >> > >> So. I'll set up the domain, and make some movies. My movies > >> probably won't > >> come for a week, as even though I have a nice camera, it stays near > >> the > >> gig.... so get on your movies. > >> > >> > >> I'm also realizing that it might be fun to sue them in small claims > >> court... > >> as it isn't very time-consuming for me, and they probably won't > >> show up to > >> contest it. > >> > >> I have a particular hatred of being ripped off by large > >> corporations because > >> you know they're doing it to thousands of others. > > > > > > > > -- > > /t > > > > -- /t From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 1 01:37:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CD9B33BEF5; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 01:37:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:36:58 -0500 From: Bill Fox Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #569 for February 28, 2008 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Message-id: <47C8B33A.8060209@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.12 (Windows/20070509) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79019 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 01:37:51 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2008/080228.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #569 February 28, 2008 RECAP: On this show, I concluded the month-long focus on Manikin Records. The Featured CD at Midnight was disk two from "Liquid Sound Volume 2." Manikin Records: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2008/focus.html#feb PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) synth.nl AirFlow AeroDynamics (Groove) Volt Evolution Nucleosynthesis (Groove) Spyra Xylophane High Phidelity(Ricochet Dream) VA [Spyra and Lang] Nenikekamen Liquid Sound Vol. 2 (Maniklin) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== VA [Fanger and Waterproof Guitar Liquid Sound Vol. 2 (Maniklin) Kersten] VA [Rainbow Serpent] Deep Dive Liquid Sound Vol. 2 (Maniklin) VA [AirSculpture] Not Raving, Floating Liquid Sound Vol. 2 (Maniklin) VA [Keller and Liquid Dawn Liquid Sound Vol. 2 (Maniklin) Schonwalder] 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long focus on Gert Emmens. The Featured CD at Midnight will be "Waves of Dreams" on Groove Unlimited records. Gert Emmens: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2008/focus.html#mar Bill ======================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EST (GMT-5:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. Galactic Travels web site: http://galactictravels.info MySpace: http://myspace.com/galactictravels RSS News Feed: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/enews.xml Podcasts: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/rss/gt.xml Listen on-line to WDIY at http://wdiy.org and click on the LISTEN link or go directly to: http://rm1.refugemedia.com/ramgen/encoder/wdiy.rm To subscribe to the galactic-travels mailing list, click on [Join This Group!] at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/galactic-travels Playlists are also published at http://billfox.blogspot.com RSS (2.0) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/rss.xml Atom (0.3) feed from http://billfox.blogspot.com/atom.xml From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 1 01:59:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3DB2F3BEF6; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 01:59:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=vwVOBFrxwp9F1Y2CEMJXzCKb2pMkN/IIprdLdln2vpM=; b=cJ6rIhShkfLwo97Q4x1ZrYPpqLa29fvF1QEO8bQsWVMxWSGt4tMWzcR3ny1VXqTCL316vdtDsRSo29dQ2ley4Gt3RGD4Q3V7w7oUXOY0QRoMLfZkl4FeqEgd98Ce5FFt9BDnZOi/3D7n4Hx7d1LQASUI5RiVAhQCnuDC6QlYcpE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=CkSn0yhGjHu+q4es/JNrjMb6N4wkXziS8NPWbRWduxyr/mRCfMppJ6ze9o3rQVTUilpUXYO7Iv488/Vt92lSOLKkQ7la9NZBwFsO4WWphs9yJUhxDztrfNKsfslQp0Ci3K4Ei40n9i63qQGUFp/p2hUcWVQfl7mu5kKcvj+xiPE= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 20:59:06 -0500 From: "Dennis Moser" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RPM Files MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79020 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 01:59:09 +0000 (UTC) Okay ... here ya go. They are FTP directories and the files are all covered by Creative Commons licenses: The 2008 RPM Challenge: ftp://ftp.angrek.com/download/RPMK28/ The 2007 RPM Challenge (which got tied up from release due to one track being used on a compilation CD that was supposed be distributed by Starbucks, but I never heard anymore about it!): ftp://ftp.angrek.com/download/RPM2K7/ Hope you enjoy. Dennis From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 1 02:47:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CC1393BEFB; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 02:47:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=zYFrhPLjhFMZ7Sq1wambdW9Nm/pK9ddNpLRz9ZiNPhQ=; b=wCSI3LhzAyb7RUXs4dhRyNwRUR5Z2Qt88+/oCxnJ3NxgNXYe2YvsujJQEHXKDyK0oz1MrTdWoLnawnk1VxxEbprK7jKb5dGG7VjM6nb5AqKHxs/n/SzJSSYAD2EloIXOqsvZ2szCFjQlTOGrA8MNXbKxdSQBHu5nZV2wlZ8C9LY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=U5U6wRBqfCbTAmK5ujOU9FUcoxYngXVsgAoyiiEb3N/RPdhb9ZcYb9h5v2cZAFl6eroUN66cxag3VwE+QPv4/CmSwhI+G6Dp6+miTVo/o4EPvN9Qp5MQePJcPZfyum1svHu+OAfPhTXW8bwEeEfHc8EZ2KCyH9Ra2zifY4MZ0Bw= Message-ID: <9e0440a60802291847qdc76696ub912cf0a664d6b24@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 21:47:22 -0500 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: My RPM record In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_8709_4181651.1204339642183" References: <439892.46629.qm@web45111.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <47C87E1C.9000104@mhorse.com> Resent-Message-ID: <3njGU.A.iDE.-OMyHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79021 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 02:47:26 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_8709_4181651.1204339642183 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline To add to the que I delivered my RPM entry titled *Skipping the Light* to the post office along with Daryl's ( to help minimize the international postal hasseles) *Rentintwain* which is just excellent by the way, about 4 this afternoon and breathed a major sigh of 'made it!' My recording is non-looping so thanks for your patience of why is this guy here, it's my solo acoustic work but this chapter all fretless, all acoustic (no electrical save the computer recording it) and totally improvised 11 pieces. Here's my link on RPM http://www.rpmchallenge.com/component/option,com_comprofiler/task,userProfile/user,2577/Itemid,296/. Very glad to have participated and completed work in this event and again special thanks to Tim Nelson who clued me into the Challenge last year. Best folks and now on to the CT-Collective insects project which is due tomorrow so I gotte get cricketing... Jim www.jimgoodinmusic.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 6:00 PM, Dennis Moser wrote: > LOL, Tim! I had to wait until my performance on 20 February ... > otherwise I'd have done the same thing! > > URL is on its' way ... > > Dennis > > On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Daryl Shawn wrote: > > It's per-Month, not per-DAY...! Damned overachiever! > > > > seriously, kudos (and to Dennis too)...let us know a public location > > where we can hear it. > > > > > > Daryl Shawn > > www.swanwelder.com > > www.chinapaintingmusic.c > > > > > > > --- highhorse@mhorse.com wrote: > > > > > >> Anybody else crank out an [RPM] album? > > >> > > > > > > Yup. I handed mine in in person on February 1st after > > > an all-night recording session... > > > > > > < > http://www.rpmchallenge.com/component/option,com_comprofiler/task,userProfile/Itemid,296/ > > > > > > > > -t- > > > > > > -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com ------=_Part_8709_4181651.1204339642183 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
To add to the que I delivered my RPM entry titled Skipping the Light to the post office along with Daryl's ( to help minimize the international postal hasseles) Rentintwain which is just excellent by the way, about 4 this afternoon and breathed a major sigh of 'made it!'  My recording is non-looping so thanks for your patience of why is this guy here, it's my solo acoustic work but this chapter all fretless, all acoustic (no electrical save the computer recording it) and totally improvised 11 pieces.  Here's my link on RPM http://www.rpmchallenge.com/component/option,com_comprofiler/task,userProfile/user,2577/Itemid,296/.  Very glad to have participated and completed work in this event and again special thanks to Tim Nelson who clued me into the Challenge last year.
 
Best folks and now on to the CT-Collective insects project which is due tomorrow so I gotte get cricketing...
 
Jim


 
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 6:00 PM, Dennis Moser <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com> wrote:
LOL, Tim! I had to wait until my performance on 20 February ...
otherwise I'd have done the same thing!

URL is on its' way ...

Dennis

On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Daryl Shawn <highhorse@mhorse.com> wrote:
> It's per-Month, not per-DAY...! Damned overachiever!
>
>  seriously, kudos (and to Dennis too)...let us know a public location
>  where we can hear it.
>
>
>  Daryl Shawn
>  www.swanwelder.com
>  www.chinapaintingmusic.c
>
>
> > --- highhorse@mhorse.com wrote:
>  >
>  >> Anybody else crank out an [RPM] album?
>  >>
>  >
>  > Yup. I handed mine in in person on February 1st after
>  > an all-night recording session...
>  >
>  > <http://www.rpmchallenge.com/component/option,com_comprofiler/task,userProfile/Itemid,296/>
>  >
>  > -t-
>
>




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The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin  - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com ------=_Part_8709_4181651.1204339642183-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 1 07:12:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ACB9B3BED5; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 07:12:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <016501c87b6b$8ec85570$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <001201c87a1c$5b0b0160$1001a8c0@succubus> Subject: Re: qualities of reverb Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 00:12:05 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79022 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 07:12:08 +0000 (UTC) >> reverb, but the principle is similar. The Waves reverb isn't >> half bad for mastering. For my laptop rig, I use a Max/msp >> reverb. It is a very difficult object to create. > > Normally, (pre-)mastering is not the processing stage to add reverb. Not sure I followed you here, Rainer, but of course I didn't elaborate. Since I don't do any multi-track recording, all my reverb ins on my source recording files from my max/msp system, but I often add reverb in the final mastering of my files to add more depth, or just change the feel of the song. Or if I am recording my free jazz trio in a studio with just live mic, and everyone is playing dry, I will add rerverb in the final mastering process. I would agree with your point outside of the context in which I record. I have read in several sources for audio engineering that reverb can be applied during the mastering process to add more depth. ...so, when you get here to Boise to play at BEMF, I'll show you my max/msp reverb patch. It is patch called yafr2, by Randy Jones and built in the style of the Dr. David Griesinger (of Lexicon) reverb design. See mono to stereo patch below for maxers. I can dig my stereo to stereo version for anyone interested. It's an amazing sounding reverb. K- max v2; #N vpatcher 72 44 715 844; #P origin 7 -30; #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P newex 487 71 40 196617 / 127.; #P flonum 311 149 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P flonum 288 127 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #N comlet diffusion; #P inlet 487 22 15 0; #P newex 487 49 62 196617 clip 0. 127.; #N comlet damping; #P inlet 358 23 15 0; #P newex 358 50 62 196617 clip 0. 127.; #N comlet decay time; #P inlet 236 24 15 0; #P newex 236 51 62 196617 clip 0. 127.; #N comlet audio in; #P inlet 14 25 15 0; #N comlet size; #P inlet 105 24 15 0; #P newex 105 50 62 196617 clip 0. 127.; #P newex 105 73 111 196617 zmap 0. 127. 0.01 1.6; #P newex 588 682 29 196617 t b f; #P newex 588 705 29 196617 * 1.; #P newex 154 422 29 196617 sig~; #P flonum 299 106 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P newex 419 614 77 196617 * 106.300003; #P newex 401 539 71 196617 * 89.239998; #P newex 366 423 29 196617 sig~; #P newex 366 401 77 196617 * 141.699997; #P newex 400 295 47 196617 * 30.51; #P newex 210 612 41 196617 * 125.; #P newex 194 540 47 196617 * 60.48; #P newex 154 401 77 196617 * 149.600006; #P newex 193 296 47 196617 * 22.58; #N vpatcher 132 115 1088 352; #P inlet 913 24 15 0; #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P window linecount 0; #P newex 817 49 35 196617 * 75.; #P newex 683 47 35 196617 * 80.; #P newex 557 47 35 196617 * 69.; #P newex 431 47 35 196617 * 25.; #P newex 305 47 35 196617 * 50.; #P newex 179 47 41 196617 * 160.; #P newex 53 47 41 196617 * 110.; #P window linecount 1; #P newex 276 124 40 196617 *~ -1.; #P newex 790 93 117 196617 comb~ 200. 75. 0. 1. 0.; #P newex 654 93 117 196617 comb~ 200. 80. 0. 1. 0.; #P newex 528 93 117 196617 comb~ 200. 69. 0. 1. 0.; #P newex 408 92 117 196617 comb~ 100. 25. 0. 1. 0.; #P newex 276 93 117 196617 comb~ 200. 50. 0. 1. 0.; #P newex 152 93 123 196617 comb~ 300. 160. 0. 1. 0.; #P newex 24 94 123 196617 comb~ 300. 110. 0. 1. 0.; #P newex 276 164 47 196617 *~ 0.15; #P inlet 408 72 15 0; #P inlet 790 73 15 0; #P inlet 276 73 15 0; #P inlet 654 73 15 0; #P inlet 528 73 15 0; #P inlet 24 74 15 0; #P inlet 150 73 15 0; #P outlet 276 191 15 0; #P connect 2 0 9 0; #P connect 17 0 9 1; #P connect 24 0 17 0; #P connect 1 0 10 0; #P connect 24 0 18 0; #P connect 18 0 10 1; #P connect 5 0 11 0; #P connect 15 0 16 0; #P connect 13 0 16 0; #P connect 14 0 16 0; #P connect 11 0 16 0; #P connect 12 0 8 0; #P connect 16 0 8 0; #P connect 10 0 8 0; #P connect 9 0 8 0; #P connect 8 0 0 0; #P connect 19 0 11 1; #P connect 24 0 19 0; #P connect 7 0 12 0; #P connect 24 0 20 0; #P connect 20 0 12 1; #P connect 3 0 13 0; #P connect 21 0 13 1; #P connect 24 0 21 0; #P connect 4 0 14 0; #P connect 22 0 14 1; #P connect 24 0 22 0; #P connect 6 0 15 0; #P connect 23 0 15 1; #P connect 24 0 23 0; #P pop; #P newobj 49 730 105 196617 p combineL; #N vpatcher 10 59 977 304; #P inlet 923 33 15 0; #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P window linecount 1; #P newex 824 73 35 196617 * 52.; #P newex 693 73 35 196617 * 27.; #P newex 562 73 35 196617 * 35.; #P newex 431 73 29 196617 * 3.; #P newex 300 73 35 196617 * 55.; #P newex 169 73 41 196617 * 135.; #P window linecount 0; #P newex 38 73 41 196617 * 110.; #P newex 272 132 40 196617 *~ -1.; #P newex 784 107 117 196617 comb~ 200. 50. 0. 1. 0.; #P newex 650 107 117 196617 comb~ 100. 25. 0. 1. 0.; #P newex 520 107 117 196617 comb~ 100. 35. 0. 1. 0.; #P newex 404 107 111 196617 comb~ 100. 3. 0. 1. 0.; #P newex 272 107 117 196617 comb~ 200. 55. 0. 1. 0.; #P newex 141 107 123 196617 comb~ 300. 135. 0. 1. 0.; #P newex 10 108 123 196617 comb~ 300. 110. 0. 1. 0.; #P newex 272 166 47 196617 *~ 0.15; #P inlet 404 87 15 0; #P inlet 784 87 15 0; #P inlet 272 87 15 0; #P inlet 650 87 15 0; #P inlet 520 87 15 0; #P inlet 10 88 15 0; #P inlet 141 87 15 0; #P outlet 272 197 15 0; #P connect 2 0 9 0; #P connect 24 0 17 0; #P connect 17 0 9 1; #P connect 1 0 10 0; #P connect 24 0 18 0; #P connect 18 0 10 1; #P connect 5 0 11 0; #P connect 15 0 16 0; #P connect 11 0 16 0; #P connect 13 0 16 0; #P connect 14 0 16 0; #P connect 16 0 8 0; #P connect 12 0 8 0; #P connect 9 0 8 0; #P connect 10 0 8 0; #P connect 8 0 0 0; #P connect 19 0 11 1; #P connect 24 0 19 0; #P connect 7 0 12 0; #P connect 20 0 12 1; #P connect 24 0 20 0; #P connect 3 0 13 0; #P connect 21 0 13 1; #P connect 24 0 21 0; #P connect 4 0 14 0; #P connect 22 0 14 1; #P connect 24 0 22 0; #P connect 6 0 15 0; #P connect 23 0 15 1; #P connect 24 0 23 0; #P pop; #P newobj 497 735 105 196617 p combineR; #P newex 418 380 39 196617 noise~; #P newex 206 379 39 196617 noise~; #P newex 207 423 41 196617 *~ 20.; #P newex 206 401 78 196617 lores~ 0 0.995; #P newex 417 422 41 196617 *~ 20.; #P newex 418 401 78 196617 lores~ 0 0.995; #P newex 236 73 111 196617 zmap 0. 127. 0.05 0.9; #P newex 348 638 104 196617 tapout~ 106.279999; #P newex 348 614 65 196617 tapin~ 1000; #P newex 141 638 68 196617 tapout~ 125.; #P newex 141 612 65 196617 tapin~ 1000; #P newex 348 563 140 196617 allpass~ 200 89.239998 0.5; #P newex 141 563 116 196617 allpass~ 200 60.48 0.5; #P newex 141 540 41 196617 *~ 0.5; #P newex 348 540 41 196617 *~ 0.5; #P newex 141 495 93 196617 onepole~ 1800 Hz.; #P newex 358 71 120 196617 zmap 0 127. 20. 12000.; #P newex 348 495 93 196617 onepole~ 1800 Hz.; #P newex 348 451 165 196617 comb~ 1000. 141.699997 0. 1. 0.; #P newex 141 450 165 196617 comb~ 1000. 149.600006 0. 1. 0.; #P newex 348 317 115 196617 allpass~ 50 30.51 -0.7; #P newex 141 316 115 196617 allpass~ 50 22.58 -0.7; #P newex 141 250 110 196617 allpass~ 20 9.3 0.625; #P newex 141 224 122 196617 allpass~ 20 12.73 0.625; #P newex 141 200 110 196617 allpass~ 10 3.58 0.75; #P newex 141 175 110 196617 allpass~ 10 4.76 0.75; #P newex 141 151 93 196617 onepole~ 1800 Hz.; #N comlet out R; #P outlet 497 764 15 0; #N comlet out L; #P outlet 49 762 15 0; #P comment 80 763 401 196617 Plate reverb \, in the style of Griesinger \, via J Dattorro. Randy Jones rej@2uptech.com; #P fasten 8 0 31 0 146 344 54 344; #P connect 31 0 1 0; #P fasten 8 0 31 1 146 344 67 344; #P fasten 17 0 31 2 146 590 80 590; #P fasten 20 0 31 3 146 678 93 678; #P fasten 11 0 31 4 353 477 106 477; #P connect 47 0 46 0; #P connect 46 0 45 0; #P fasten 18 0 31 5 353 585 119 585; #P fasten 22 0 31 6 353 714 132 714; #P fasten 43 0 31 7 593 725 145 725; #P fasten 48 0 3 0 19 140 146 140; #P connect 3 0 4 0; #P connect 4 0 5 0; #P connect 5 0 6 0; #P connect 6 0 7 0; #P fasten 22 0 8 0 353 662 28 662 28 293 146 293; #P lcolor 7; #P connect 7 0 8 0; #P connect 8 0 10 0; #P connect 10 0 14 0; #P connect 14 0 16 0; #P connect 16 0 17 0; #P connect 17 0 19 0; #P connect 19 0 20 0; #P connect 35 0 20 0; #P fasten 41 0 33 0 304 372 159 372; #P connect 33 0 42 0; #P fasten 55 0 16 1 293 520 177 520; #P fasten 42 0 10 1 159 444 184 444; #P fasten 27 0 10 1 212 444 184 444; #P fasten 41 0 32 0 304 290 198 290; #P connect 32 0 8 1; #P fasten 41 0 34 0 304 527 199 527; #P connect 34 0 17 1; #P connect 28 0 26 0; #P connect 26 0 27 0; #P fasten 41 0 35 0 304 597 215 597; #P connect 13 0 3 1; #P fasten 56 0 14 1 316 484 229 484; #P connect 50 0 49 0; #P connect 49 0 23 0; #P connect 23 0 55 0; #P fasten 45 0 41 0 110 98 304 98; #P connect 13 0 56 0; #P fasten 20 0 9 0 146 670 19 670 19 285 353 285; #P lcolor 7; #P fasten 7 0 9 0 146 272 353 272; #P connect 9 0 11 0; #P connect 11 0 12 0; #P connect 12 0 15 0; #P connect 15 0 18 0; #P connect 18 0 21 0; #P connect 21 0 22 0; #P connect 40 0 22 0; #P connect 52 0 51 0; #P connect 51 0 13 0; #P fasten 41 0 37 0 304 377 371 377; #P connect 37 0 38 0; #P fasten 55 0 15 1 293 520 384 520; #P fasten 25 0 11 1 422 444 391 444; #P fasten 38 0 11 1 371 445 391 445; #P fasten 41 0 36 0 304 291 405 291; #P connect 36 0 9 1; #P fasten 41 0 39 0 304 527 406 527; #P connect 39 0 18 1; #P connect 24 0 25 0; #P connect 29 0 24 0; #P fasten 41 0 40 0 304 599 424 599; #P fasten 56 0 12 1 316 484 436 484; #P connect 54 0 53 0; #P connect 53 0 57 0; #P fasten 9 0 30 0 353 343 502 343; #P connect 30 0 2 0; #P fasten 9 0 30 1 353 343 515 343; #P fasten 18 0 30 2 353 594 528 594; #P fasten 22 0 30 3 353 691 541 691; #P fasten 10 0 30 4 146 473 554 473; #P fasten 17 0 30 5 146 604 567 604; #P fasten 20 0 30 6 146 706 580 706; #P fasten 57 0 44 0 492 272 593 272; #P fasten 41 0 43 0 304 702 593 702; #P connect 44 0 43 0; #P connect 43 0 30 7; #P connect 44 1 43 1; #P pop; From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 1 11:44:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 88AFB3BED3; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 11:44:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=FtuIVksGmkmf6SBJVGoe9J5Tb0LW9mVAPrOZOhl17Uo=; b=Vjl2R0b1Btk+1ovuM66K1H9mAQTYUCfQ99NOk8NEM3eD623BwuaDjieHLy9M+6k7bT5pS1W5h5yRoV0k2HRRIyJdSyKDCr3jnz46DEjB3DMjxaFPpfNygn6wszSy7mUzjE15g6hLVDL/d3gEOvZMr4LHYZNe9tI5mHqFBGU5koA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=BEHA1xn3X1MyMNgm7NKgBY2zYG2uiEhaVlMbb6hedEPVGE8TEIC+oR2QY7DaF6wnrdwusQTrxO6dNF4pmB+USZ+whc94aLC0kv1lvNWImgyowEEy7rC5B3FApcGa1qAcg3m2+O4KZQh6kT0HAEBi9ZDZ6nS0p7Rt89mp1ztpWaY= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0803010344l56d011b3k850d644ebcdbfe0f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 12:44:27 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: loopers-delight Subject: OT: Interesting research on brain activities of improvisers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2268_31077597.1204371867314" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79023 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 11:44:29 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_2268_31077597.1204371867314 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I found this rather interesting: Scientists funded by the National Institute on Deafness and Other > Communication Disorders (NIDCD) have found that, when jazz musicians are > engaged in the highly creative and spontaneous activity known as > improvisation, a large region of the brain involved in monitoring one's > performance is shut down, while a small region involved in organizing > self-initiated thoughts and behaviors is highly activated. Link to read more: http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/02/29/the-real-ai-jazz-factor-think-different/ I've always also filed meditation into the same type of brain activities. Particularly disciplines where you practice to stay relaxed and focused at the same time - without falling asleep, lose concentration or wander astray along associational thoughts. But this article doesn't mention meditation. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) ------=_Part_2268_31077597.1204371867314 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I found this rather interesting: 

Scientists funded by the National Institute on Deafness and Other Communication Disorders (NIDCD) have found that, when jazz musicians are engaged in the highly creative and spontaneous activity known as improvisation, a large region of the brain involved in monitoring one's performance is shut down, while a small region involved in organizing self-initiated thoughts and behaviors is highly activated.

Link to read more: 

I've always also filed meditation into the same type of brain activities. Particularly disciplines where you practice to stay relaxed and focused at the same time - without falling asleep, lose concentration or wander astray along associational thoughts. But this article doesn't mention meditation. 

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Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
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------=_Part_2268_31077597.1204371867314-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 1 12:32:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CE4A13BED9; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 12:32:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 409 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 12:32:27 UTC X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 269139.37212.bm@omp205.mail.sp1.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=brAuE4Cje2Q9tXBxoh7ZN82d0OZhpwfxG0IWMXJmvu2xfD39osOYeKha3Jx/JwH74OFkqm2pT2fzlrKgrldhJRwNrZ45pwpI8g8HhWOlzqBT7DBZQgepKI6nMgJP+OKn9/IlNmknnqXFF4b3wWta1MUjTkPXb6GMCpK0TNZ1Doc=; X-YMail-OSG: 9iOPYlQVM1nuRjkcbsJVQ9BtY6Jc.4B6OIQGbY8UGiv7qZMw4AzgDMqsfLlttFjU.i_gvLLo826F5ha36d.K9KLK4v82QgYjRlra9ScaDDEJffFgcD0- Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 04:25:36 -0800 (PST) From: Tim Nelson Subject: Re: RPM Files To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <182340.23796.qm@web45105.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79024 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 12:32:27 +0000 (UTC) Hi Dennis, Yeah, I've got a track on one of last year's Starbucks comps too; apparently what happened is that the contact guy Mick had been corresponding with for several months is no longer with the company, so he had to start the whole process over again... I'm guessing it's no longer going to happen. I don't see why it in any way held up your release, though; the agreement with Mick is/was an inclusion license thing, and you still retain all the rights to your work. My 2007 RPM CD was on CDBaby before Mick even started the comp project... -t- --- Dennis Moser wrote: > Okay ... here ya go. They are FTP directories and > the files are all > covered by Creative Commons licenses: > > The 2008 RPM Challenge: > > ftp://ftp.angrek.com/download/RPMK28/ > > The 2007 RPM Challenge (which got tied up from > release due to one > track being used on a compilation CD that was > supposed be distributed > by Starbucks, but I never heard anymore about it!): > > ftp://ftp.angrek.com/download/RPM2K7/ > > > Hope you enjoy. > > Dennis > > http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes http://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson http://www.youtube.com/speleman62 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 1 13:42:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5BA853BEDF; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 13:42:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <010b01c87c6b$e488bad0$0901a8c0@kleiner> Reply-To: "Tilmann Dehnhard" From: "Tilmann Dehnhard" To: References: <012a01c87aa4$19f968a0$6401a8c0@dayglogreen> Subject: Re: qualities of reverb Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 19:16:57 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+GAeONjDvfIq1PvtSKhqW40TyEICsGUJY3NFE z4cb6scPtm6+9ivr2Qqu96DnEf62QYMSCfFK9w2IQhCPNfcrYl TSykDnFO9KWtKkdUWQbT9a4bWpk7AMZ Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79025 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 13:42:25 +0000 (UTC) yes, i also remember that reverb... it was looooooooooooooooooooooooong... tilmann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Walker" To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 12:54 PM Subject: RE: qualities of reverb > Duncan Goddard mentioned a trick with his trusty microverb: > > Which reminded me: > > The Alesis Midverb 2 had an infinite reverb in it that was just amazing. > (patch #32 if memory serves) > > Eventually I had to upgrade my reverbs (with more Alesis and finally > Lexicons) > but I have never heard an infinite reverb setting that was so musical as > that > old archaic unit. One of my favorite tricks when I was first doing lop > > The rest of the verbs were pretty pathetic, unfortuanately and the Alesis > gear > just doesn't seem to last very long. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 1 14:20:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DC04B3BEE4; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 14:20:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=wNrxCQZIeDEGFwIHj+P9vkOhutA+4eSPwr2/WW9pSLE=; b=ediPLKpIz3IjAZaoXfPx8bTn6PIh23Sq1UOFyXn9WICZ+82E71kkolnC5zPr85fVezc79ZhOCOanf13+/x1ai19uQulREs1GQgT0ON3g/OQE+n61T4+4lvqv3E5ZVdqjMh0m8LX9Zs4eqWD7WAgLFgusR0L6EKAs+X/KXnuo6Wg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=fe+pSQPXmQSK2VzLTaTPPBWj6Z2NaYeFg5vmKZI33WVRqJtlLxmRu6DN0rVCIlX53kNxJQJDhKIKEdKvZ3wIIcoNbBRiY7I0TcDMBM65lwkCJ0Rm7XYdZyEr6W83IOaOGsD5aY3OsWe0cnegm/ij8Z7huqBIZCxW+YOUh/NSJAE= Message-ID: <4759e5740803010620n3287e7ebja4cffc054a3d6b3c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 09:20:14 -0500 From: "todd reynolds" Reply-To: todd@toddreynolds.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: qualities of reverb In-Reply-To: <016501c87b6b$8ec85570$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_12085_7643993.1204381215196" References: <001201c87a1c$5b0b0160$1001a8c0@succubus> <016501c87b6b$8ec85570$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79026 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 14:20:16 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_12085_7643993.1204381215196 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hey Krispen, I'd dig hearing the stereo reverb for sure! also, what are the ranges for the size and damping inlets? thanks man, this is the first reverb I've seen really built in max, exciting! Best to all, Todd On 3/1/08, Krispen Hartung wrote: > > > >> reverb, but the principle is similar. The Waves reverb isn't > >> half bad for mastering. For my laptop rig, I use a Max/msp > >> reverb. It is a very difficult object to create. > > > > Normally, (pre-)mastering is not the processing stage to add reverb. > > Not sure I followed you here, Rainer, but of course I didn't elaborate. > Since I don't do any multi-track recording, all my reverb ins on my source > recording files from my max/msp system, but I often add reverb in the > final > mastering of my files to add more depth, or just change the feel of the > song. Or if I am recording my free jazz trio in a studio with just live > mic, and everyone is playing dry, I will add rerverb in the final > mastering > process. I would agree with your point outside of the context in which I > record. I have read in several sources for audio engineering that reverb > can be applied during the mastering process to add more depth. > > ...so, when you get here to Boise to play at BEMF, I'll show you my > max/msp > reverb patch. It is patch called yafr2, by Randy Jones and built in the > style of the Dr. David Griesinger (of Lexicon) reverb design. See mono to > stereo patch below for maxers. I can dig my stereo to stereo version for > anyone interested. It's an amazing sounding reverb. > > K- > > max v2; > #N vpatcher 72 44 715 844; > #P origin 7 -30; > #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; > #P newex 487 71 40 196617 / 127.; > #P flonum 311 149 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; > #P flonum 288 127 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; > #N comlet diffusion; > #P inlet 487 22 15 0; > #P newex 487 49 62 196617 clip 0. 127.; > #N comlet damping; > #P inlet 358 23 15 0; > #P newex 358 50 62 196617 clip 0. 127.; > #N comlet decay time; > #P inlet 236 24 15 0; > #P newex 236 51 62 196617 clip 0. 127.; > #N comlet audio in; > #P inlet 14 25 15 0; > #N comlet size; > #P inlet 105 24 15 0; > #P newex 105 50 62 196617 clip 0. 127.; > #P newex 105 73 111 196617 zmap 0. 127. 0.01 1.6; > #P newex 588 682 29 196617 t b f; > #P newex 588 705 29 196617 * 1.; > #P newex 154 422 29 196617 sig~; > #P flonum 299 106 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; > #P newex 419 614 77 196617 * 106.300003; > #P newex 401 539 71 196617 * 89.239998; > #P newex 366 423 29 196617 sig~; > #P newex 366 401 77 196617 * 141.699997; > #P newex 400 295 47 196617 * 30.51; > #P newex 210 612 41 196617 * 125.; > #P newex 194 540 47 196617 * 60.48; > #P newex 154 401 77 196617 * 149.600006; > #P newex 193 296 47 196617 * 22.58; > #N vpatcher 132 115 1088 352; > #P inlet 913 24 15 0; > #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; > #P window linecount 0; > #P newex 817 49 35 196617 * 75.; > #P newex 683 47 35 196617 * 80.; > #P newex 557 47 35 196617 * 69.; > #P newex 431 47 35 196617 * 25.; > #P newex 305 47 35 196617 * 50.; > #P newex 179 47 41 196617 * 160.; > #P newex 53 47 41 196617 * 110.; > #P window linecount 1; > #P newex 276 124 40 196617 *~ -1.; > #P newex 790 93 117 196617 comb~ 200. 75. 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 654 93 117 196617 comb~ 200. 80. 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 528 93 117 196617 comb~ 200. 69. 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 408 92 117 196617 comb~ 100. 25. 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 276 93 117 196617 comb~ 200. 50. 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 152 93 123 196617 comb~ 300. 160. 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 24 94 123 196617 comb~ 300. 110. 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 276 164 47 196617 *~ 0.15; > #P inlet 408 72 15 0; > #P inlet 790 73 15 0; > #P inlet 276 73 15 0; > #P inlet 654 73 15 0; > #P inlet 528 73 15 0; > #P inlet 24 74 15 0; > #P inlet 150 73 15 0; > #P outlet 276 191 15 0; > #P connect 2 0 9 0; > #P connect 17 0 9 1; > #P connect 24 0 17 0; > #P connect 1 0 10 0; > #P connect 24 0 18 0; > #P connect 18 0 10 1; > #P connect 5 0 11 0; > #P connect 15 0 16 0; > #P connect 13 0 16 0; > #P connect 14 0 16 0; > #P connect 11 0 16 0; > #P connect 12 0 8 0; > #P connect 16 0 8 0; > #P connect 10 0 8 0; > #P connect 9 0 8 0; > #P connect 8 0 0 0; > #P connect 19 0 11 1; > #P connect 24 0 19 0; > #P connect 7 0 12 0; > #P connect 24 0 20 0; > #P connect 20 0 12 1; > #P connect 3 0 13 0; > #P connect 21 0 13 1; > #P connect 24 0 21 0; > #P connect 4 0 14 0; > #P connect 22 0 14 1; > #P connect 24 0 22 0; > #P connect 6 0 15 0; > #P connect 23 0 15 1; > #P connect 24 0 23 0; > #P pop; > #P newobj 49 730 105 196617 p combineL; > #N vpatcher 10 59 977 304; > #P inlet 923 33 15 0; > #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; > #P window linecount 1; > #P newex 824 73 35 196617 * 52.; > #P newex 693 73 35 196617 * 27.; > #P newex 562 73 35 196617 * 35.; > #P newex 431 73 29 196617 * 3.; > #P newex 300 73 35 196617 * 55.; > #P newex 169 73 41 196617 * 135.; > #P window linecount 0; > #P newex 38 73 41 196617 * 110.; > #P newex 272 132 40 196617 *~ -1.; > #P newex 784 107 117 196617 comb~ 200. 50. 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 650 107 117 196617 comb~ 100. 25. 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 520 107 117 196617 comb~ 100. 35. 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 404 107 111 196617 comb~ 100. 3. 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 272 107 117 196617 comb~ 200. 55. 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 141 107 123 196617 comb~ 300. 135. 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 10 108 123 196617 comb~ 300. 110. 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 272 166 47 196617 *~ 0.15; > #P inlet 404 87 15 0; > #P inlet 784 87 15 0; > #P inlet 272 87 15 0; > #P inlet 650 87 15 0; > #P inlet 520 87 15 0; > #P inlet 10 88 15 0; > #P inlet 141 87 15 0; > #P outlet 272 197 15 0; > #P connect 2 0 9 0; > #P connect 24 0 17 0; > #P connect 17 0 9 1; > #P connect 1 0 10 0; > #P connect 24 0 18 0; > #P connect 18 0 10 1; > #P connect 5 0 11 0; > #P connect 15 0 16 0; > #P connect 11 0 16 0; > #P connect 13 0 16 0; > #P connect 14 0 16 0; > #P connect 16 0 8 0; > #P connect 12 0 8 0; > #P connect 9 0 8 0; > #P connect 10 0 8 0; > #P connect 8 0 0 0; > #P connect 19 0 11 1; > #P connect 24 0 19 0; > #P connect 7 0 12 0; > #P connect 20 0 12 1; > #P connect 24 0 20 0; > #P connect 3 0 13 0; > #P connect 21 0 13 1; > #P connect 24 0 21 0; > #P connect 4 0 14 0; > #P connect 22 0 14 1; > #P connect 24 0 22 0; > #P connect 6 0 15 0; > #P connect 23 0 15 1; > #P connect 24 0 23 0; > #P pop; > #P newobj 497 735 105 196617 p combineR; > #P newex 418 380 39 196617 noise~; > #P newex 206 379 39 196617 noise~; > #P newex 207 423 41 196617 *~ 20.; > #P newex 206 401 78 196617 lores~ 0 0.995; > #P newex 417 422 41 196617 *~ 20.; > #P newex 418 401 78 196617 lores~ 0 0.995; > #P newex 236 73 111 196617 zmap 0. 127. 0.05 0.9; > #P newex 348 638 104 196617 tapout~ 106.279999; > #P newex 348 614 65 196617 tapin~ 1000; > #P newex 141 638 68 196617 tapout~ 125.; > #P newex 141 612 65 196617 tapin~ 1000; > #P newex 348 563 140 196617 allpass~ 200 89.239998 0.5; > #P newex 141 563 116 196617 allpass~ 200 60.48 0.5; > #P newex 141 540 41 196617 *~ 0.5; > #P newex 348 540 41 196617 *~ 0.5; > #P newex 141 495 93 196617 onepole~ 1800 Hz.; > #P newex 358 71 120 196617 zmap 0 127. 20. 12000.; > #P newex 348 495 93 196617 onepole~ 1800 Hz.; > #P newex 348 451 165 196617 comb~ 1000. 141.699997 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 141 450 165 196617 comb~ 1000. 149.600006 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 348 317 115 196617 allpass~ 50 30.51 -0.7; > #P newex 141 316 115 196617 allpass~ 50 22.58 -0.7; > #P newex 141 250 110 196617 allpass~ 20 9.3 0.625; > #P newex 141 224 122 196617 allpass~ 20 12.73 0.625; > #P newex 141 200 110 196617 allpass~ 10 3.58 0.75; > #P newex 141 175 110 196617 allpass~ 10 4.76 0.75; > #P newex 141 151 93 196617 onepole~ 1800 Hz.; > #N comlet out R; > #P outlet 497 764 15 0; > #N comlet out L; > #P outlet 49 762 15 0; > #P comment 80 763 401 196617 Plate reverb \, in the style of > Griesinger \, via J Dattorro. Randy Jones rej@2uptech.com; > #P fasten 8 0 31 0 146 344 54 344; > #P connect 31 0 1 0; > #P fasten 8 0 31 1 146 344 67 344; > #P fasten 17 0 31 2 146 590 80 590; > #P fasten 20 0 31 3 146 678 93 678; > #P fasten 11 0 31 4 353 477 106 477; > #P connect 47 0 46 0; > #P connect 46 0 45 0; > #P fasten 18 0 31 5 353 585 119 585; > #P fasten 22 0 31 6 353 714 132 714; > #P fasten 43 0 31 7 593 725 145 725; > #P fasten 48 0 3 0 19 140 146 140; > #P connect 3 0 4 0; > #P connect 4 0 5 0; > #P connect 5 0 6 0; > #P connect 6 0 7 0; > #P fasten 22 0 8 0 353 662 28 662 28 293 146 293; > #P lcolor 7; > #P connect 7 0 8 0; > #P connect 8 0 10 0; > #P connect 10 0 14 0; > #P connect 14 0 16 0; > #P connect 16 0 17 0; > #P connect 17 0 19 0; > #P connect 19 0 20 0; > #P connect 35 0 20 0; > #P fasten 41 0 33 0 304 372 159 372; > #P connect 33 0 42 0; > #P fasten 55 0 16 1 293 520 177 520; > #P fasten 42 0 10 1 159 444 184 444; > #P fasten 27 0 10 1 212 444 184 444; > #P fasten 41 0 32 0 304 290 198 290; > #P connect 32 0 8 1; > #P fasten 41 0 34 0 304 527 199 527; > #P connect 34 0 17 1; > #P connect 28 0 26 0; > #P connect 26 0 27 0; > #P fasten 41 0 35 0 304 597 215 597; > #P connect 13 0 3 1; > #P fasten 56 0 14 1 316 484 229 484; > #P connect 50 0 49 0; > #P connect 49 0 23 0; > #P connect 23 0 55 0; > #P fasten 45 0 41 0 110 98 304 98; > #P connect 13 0 56 0; > #P fasten 20 0 9 0 146 670 19 670 19 285 353 285; > #P lcolor 7; > #P fasten 7 0 9 0 146 272 353 272; > #P connect 9 0 11 0; > #P connect 11 0 12 0; > #P connect 12 0 15 0; > #P connect 15 0 18 0; > #P connect 18 0 21 0; > #P connect 21 0 22 0; > #P connect 40 0 22 0; > #P connect 52 0 51 0; > #P connect 51 0 13 0; > #P fasten 41 0 37 0 304 377 371 377; > #P connect 37 0 38 0; > #P fasten 55 0 15 1 293 520 384 520; > #P fasten 25 0 11 1 422 444 391 444; > #P fasten 38 0 11 1 371 445 391 445; > #P fasten 41 0 36 0 304 291 405 291; > #P connect 36 0 9 1; > #P fasten 41 0 39 0 304 527 406 527; > #P connect 39 0 18 1; > #P connect 24 0 25 0; > #P connect 29 0 24 0; > #P fasten 41 0 40 0 304 599 424 599; > #P fasten 56 0 12 1 316 484 436 484; > #P connect 54 0 53 0; > #P connect 53 0 57 0; > #P fasten 9 0 30 0 353 343 502 343; > #P connect 30 0 2 0; > #P fasten 9 0 30 1 353 343 515 343; > #P fasten 18 0 30 2 353 594 528 594; > #P fasten 22 0 30 3 353 691 541 691; > #P fasten 10 0 30 4 146 473 554 473; > #P fasten 17 0 30 5 146 604 567 604; > #P fasten 20 0 30 6 146 706 580 706; > #P fasten 57 0 44 0 492 272 593 272; > #P fasten 41 0 43 0 304 702 593 702; > #P connect 44 0 43 0; > #P connect 43 0 30 7; > #P connect 44 1 43 1; > #P pop; > > -- http://www.toddreynolds.com |: http://myspace.com/toddreynoldsmusic |: ------------------------------------------------------|: 917.576.6166 todd@toddreynolds.com toddreyn@gmail.com ------=_Part_12085_7643993.1204381215196 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hey Krispen, I'd dig hearing the stereo reverb for sure!

also, what are the ranges for the size and damping inlets?

thanks man, this is the first reverb I've seen really built in max, exciting!

 
Best to all, 

Todd


On 3/1/08, Krispen Hartung <khartung@cableone.net> wrote:

>> reverb, but the principle is similar. The Waves reverb isn't
>> half bad for mastering. For my laptop rig, I use a Max/msp
>> reverb. It is a very difficult object to create.
>
> Normally, (pre-)mastering is not the processing stage to add reverb.

Not sure I followed you here, Rainer, but of course I didn't elaborate.
Since I don't do any multi-track recording, all my reverb ins on my source
recording files from my max/msp system, but I often add reverb in the final
mastering of my files to add more depth, or just change the feel of the
song.  Or if I am recording my free jazz trio in a studio with just live
mic, and everyone is playing dry, I will add rerverb in the final mastering
process. I would agree with your point outside of the context in which I
record.  I have read in several sources for audio engineering that reverb
can be applied during the mastering process to add more depth.

...so, when you get here to Boise to play at BEMF, I'll show you my max/msp
reverb patch. It is patch called yafr2, by Randy Jones and built in the
style of  the Dr. David Griesinger (of Lexicon) reverb design. See mono to
stereo patch below for maxers. I can dig my stereo to stereo version for
anyone interested. It's an amazing sounding reverb.

K-

max v2;
#N vpatcher 72 44 715 844;
#P origin 7 -30;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P newex 487 71 40 196617 / 127.;
#P flonum 311 149 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
#P flonum 288 127 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
#N comlet diffusion;
#P inlet 487 22 15 0;
#P newex 487 49 62 196617 clip 0. 127.;
#N comlet damping;
#P inlet 358 23 15 0;
#P newex 358 50 62 196617 clip 0. 127.;
#N comlet decay time;
#P inlet 236 24 15 0;
#P newex 236 51 62 196617 clip 0. 127.;
#N comlet audio in;
#P inlet 14 25 15 0;
#N comlet size;
#P inlet 105 24 15 0;
#P newex 105 50 62 196617 clip 0. 127.;
#P newex 105 73 111 196617 zmap 0. 127. 0.01 1.6;
#P newex 588 682 29 196617 t b f;
#P newex 588 705 29 196617 * 1.;
#P newex 154 422 29 196617 sig~;
#P flonum 299 106 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
#P newex 419 614 77 196617 * 106.300003;
#P newex 401 539 71 196617 * 89.239998;
#P newex 366 423 29 196617 sig~;
#P newex 366 401 77 196617 * 141.699997;
#P newex 400 295 47 196617 * 30.51;
#P newex 210 612 41 196617 * 125.;
#P newex 194 540 47 196617 * 60.48;
#P newex 154 401 77 196617 * 149.600006;
#P newex 193 296 47 196617 * 22.58;
#N vpatcher 132 115 1088 352;
#P inlet 913 24 15 0;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P window linecount 0;
#P newex 817 49 35 196617 * 75.;
#P newex 683 47 35 196617 * 80.;
#P newex 557 47 35 196617 * 69.;
#P newex 431 47 35 196617 * 25.;
#P newex 305 47 35 196617 * 50.;
#P newex 179 47 41 196617 * 160.;
#P newex 53 47 41 196617 * 110.;
#P window linecount 1;
#P newex 276 124 40 196617 *~ -1.;
#P newex 790 93 117 196617 comb~ 200. 75. 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 654 93 117 196617 comb~ 200. 80. 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 528 93 117 196617 comb~ 200. 69. 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 408 92 117 196617 comb~ 100. 25. 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 276 93 117 196617 comb~ 200. 50. 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 152 93 123 196617 comb~ 300. 160. 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 24 94 123 196617 comb~ 300. 110. 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 276 164 47 196617 *~ 0.15;
#P inlet 408 72 15 0;
#P inlet 790 73 15 0;
#P inlet 276 73 15 0;
#P inlet 654 73 15 0;
#P inlet 528 73 15 0;
#P inlet 24 74 15 0;
#P inlet 150 73 15 0;
#P outlet 276 191 15 0;
#P connect 2 0 9 0;
#P connect 17 0 9 1;
#P connect 24 0 17 0;
#P connect 1 0 10 0;
#P connect 24 0 18 0;
#P connect 18 0 10 1;
#P connect 5 0 11 0;
#P connect 15 0 16 0;
#P connect 13 0 16 0;
#P connect 14 0 16 0;
#P connect 11 0 16 0;
#P connect 12 0 8 0;
#P connect 16 0 8 0;
#P connect 10 0 8 0;
#P connect 9 0 8 0;
#P connect 8 0 0 0;
#P connect 19 0 11 1;
#P connect 24 0 19 0;
#P connect 7 0 12 0;
#P connect 24 0 20 0;
#P connect 20 0 12 1;
#P connect 3 0 13 0;
#P connect 21 0 13 1;
#P connect 24 0 21 0;
#P connect 4 0 14 0;
#P connect 22 0 14 1;
#P connect 24 0 22 0;
#P connect 6 0 15 0;
#P connect 23 0 15 1;
#P connect 24 0 23 0;
#P pop;
#P newobj 49 730 105 196617 p combineL;
#N vpatcher 10 59 977 304;
#P inlet 923 33 15 0;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P window linecount 1;
#P newex 824 73 35 196617 * 52.;
#P newex 693 73 35 196617 * 27.;
#P newex 562 73 35 196617 * 35.;
#P newex 431 73 29 196617 * 3.;
#P newex 300 73 35 196617 * 55.;
#P newex 169 73 41 196617 * 135.;
#P window linecount 0;
#P newex 38 73 41 196617 * 110.;
#P newex 272 132 40 196617 *~ -1.;
#P newex 784 107 117 196617 comb~ 200. 50. 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 650 107 117 196617 comb~ 100. 25. 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 520 107 117 196617 comb~ 100. 35. 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 404 107 111 196617 comb~ 100. 3. 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 272 107 117 196617 comb~ 200. 55. 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 141 107 123 196617 comb~ 300. 135. 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 10 108 123 196617 comb~ 300. 110. 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 272 166 47 196617 *~ 0.15;
#P inlet 404 87 15 0;
#P inlet 784 87 15 0;
#P inlet 272 87 15 0;
#P inlet 650 87 15 0;
#P inlet 520 87 15 0;
#P inlet 10 88 15 0;
#P inlet 141 87 15 0;
#P outlet 272 197 15 0;
#P connect 2 0 9 0;
#P connect 24 0 17 0;
#P connect 17 0 9 1;
#P connect 1 0 10 0;
#P connect 24 0 18 0;
#P connect 18 0 10 1;
#P connect 5 0 11 0;
#P connect 15 0 16 0;
#P connect 11 0 16 0;
#P connect 13 0 16 0;
#P connect 14 0 16 0;
#P connect 16 0 8 0;
#P connect 12 0 8 0;
#P connect 9 0 8 0;
#P connect 10 0 8 0;
#P connect 8 0 0 0;
#P connect 19 0 11 1;
#P connect 24 0 19 0;
#P connect 7 0 12 0;
#P connect 20 0 12 1;
#P connect 24 0 20 0;
#P connect 3 0 13 0;
#P connect 21 0 13 1;
#P connect 24 0 21 0;
#P connect 4 0 14 0;
#P connect 22 0 14 1;
#P connect 24 0 22 0;
#P connect 6 0 15 0;
#P connect 23 0 15 1;
#P connect 24 0 23 0;
#P pop;
#P newobj 497 735 105 196617 p combineR;
#P newex 418 380 39 196617 noise~;
#P newex 206 379 39 196617 noise~;
#P newex 207 423 41 196617 *~ 20.;
#P newex 206 401 78 196617 lores~ 0 0.995;
#P newex 417 422 41 196617 *~ 20.;
#P newex 418 401 78 196617 lores~ 0 0.995;
#P newex 236 73 111 196617 zmap 0. 127. 0.05 0.9;
#P newex 348 638 104 196617 tapout~ 106.279999;
#P newex 348 614 65 196617 tapin~ 1000;
#P newex 141 638 68 196617 tapout~ 125.;
#P newex 141 612 65 196617 tapin~ 1000;
#P newex 348 563 140 196617 allpass~ 200 89.239998 0.5;
#P newex 141 563 116 196617 allpass~ 200 60.48 0.5;
#P newex 141 540 41 196617 *~ 0.5;
#P newex 348 540 41 196617 *~ 0.5;
#P newex 141 495 93 196617 onepole~ 1800 Hz.;
#P newex 358 71 120 196617 zmap 0 127. 20. 12000.;
#P newex 348 495 93 196617 onepole~ 1800 Hz.;
#P newex 348 451 165 196617 comb~ 1000. 141.699997 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 141 450 165 196617 comb~ 1000. 149.600006 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 348 317 115 196617 allpass~ 50 30.51 -0.7;
#P newex 141 316 115 196617 allpass~ 50 22.58 -0.7;
#P newex 141 250 110 196617 allpass~ 20 9.3 0.625;
#P newex 141 224 122 196617 allpass~ 20 12.73 0.625;
#P newex 141 200 110 196617 allpass~ 10 3.58 0.75;
#P newex 141 175 110 196617 allpass~ 10 4.76 0.75;
#P newex 141 151 93 196617 onepole~ 1800 Hz.;
#N comlet out R;
#P outlet 497 764 15 0;
#N comlet out L;
#P outlet 49 762 15 0;
#P comment 80 763 401 196617 Plate reverb \, in the style of
Griesinger \, via J Dattorro. Randy Jones rej@2uptech.com;
#P fasten 8 0 31 0 146 344 54 344;
#P connect 31 0 1 0;
#P fasten 8 0 31 1 146 344 67 344;
#P fasten 17 0 31 2 146 590 80 590;
#P fasten 20 0 31 3 146 678 93 678;
#P fasten 11 0 31 4 353 477 106 477;
#P connect 47 0 46 0;
#P connect 46 0 45 0;
#P fasten 18 0 31 5 353 585 119 585;
#P fasten 22 0 31 6 353 714 132 714;
#P fasten 43 0 31 7 593 725 145 725;
#P fasten 48 0 3 0 19 140 146 140;
#P connect 3 0 4 0;
#P connect 4 0 5 0;
#P connect 5 0 6 0;
#P connect 6 0 7 0;
#P fasten 22 0 8 0 353 662 28 662 28 293 146 293;
#P lcolor 7;
#P connect 7 0 8 0;
#P connect 8 0 10 0;
#P connect 10 0 14 0;
#P connect 14 0 16 0;
#P connect 16 0 17 0;
#P connect 17 0 19 0;
#P connect 19 0 20 0;
#P connect 35 0 20 0;
#P fasten 41 0 33 0 304 372 159 372;
#P connect 33 0 42 0;
#P fasten 55 0 16 1 293 520 177 520;
#P fasten 42 0 10 1 159 444 184 444;
#P fasten 27 0 10 1 212 444 184 444;
#P fasten 41 0 32 0 304 290 198 290;
#P connect 32 0 8 1;
#P fasten 41 0 34 0 304 527 199 527;
#P connect 34 0 17 1;
#P connect 28 0 26 0;
#P connect 26 0 27 0;
#P fasten 41 0 35 0 304 597 215 597;
#P connect 13 0 3 1;
#P fasten 56 0 14 1 316 484 229 484;
#P connect 50 0 49 0;
#P connect 49 0 23 0;
#P connect 23 0 55 0;
#P fasten 45 0 41 0 110 98 304 98;
#P connect 13 0 56 0;
#P fasten 20 0 9 0 146 670 19 670 19 285 353 285;
#P lcolor 7;
#P fasten 7 0 9 0 146 272 353 272;
#P connect 9 0 11 0;
#P connect 11 0 12 0;
#P connect 12 0 15 0;
#P connect 15 0 18 0;
#P connect 18 0 21 0;
#P connect 21 0 22 0;
#P connect 40 0 22 0;
#P connect 52 0 51 0;
#P connect 51 0 13 0;
#P fasten 41 0 37 0 304 377 371 377;
#P connect 37 0 38 0;
#P fasten 55 0 15 1 293 520 384 520;
#P fasten 25 0 11 1 422 444 391 444;
#P fasten 38 0 11 1 371 445 391 445;
#P fasten 41 0 36 0 304 291 405 291;
#P connect 36 0 9 1;
#P fasten 41 0 39 0 304 527 406 527;
#P connect 39 0 18 1;
#P connect 24 0 25 0;
#P connect 29 0 24 0;
#P fasten 41 0 40 0 304 599 424 599;
#P fasten 56 0 12 1 316 484 436 484;
#P connect 54 0 53 0;
#P connect 53 0 57 0;
#P fasten 9 0 30 0 353 343 502 343;
#P connect 30 0 2 0;
#P fasten 9 0 30 1 353 343 515 343;
#P fasten 18 0 30 2 353 594 528 594;
#P fasten 22 0 30 3 353 691 541 691;
#P fasten 10 0 30 4 146 473 554 473;
#P fasten 17 0 30 5 146 604 567 604;
#P fasten 20 0 30 6 146 706 580 706;
#P fasten 57 0 44 0 492 272 593 272;
#P fasten 41 0 43 0 304 702 593 702;
#P connect 44 0 43 0;
#P connect 43 0 30 7;
#P connect 44 1 43 1;
#P pop;




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------=_Part_12085_7643993.1204381215196-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 1 15:01:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 840E03BEE0; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 15:01:53 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com In-Reply-To: <008101c87aff$37b420a0$0300000a@erdem> References: <625537.46282.qm@web33103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <008101c87aff$37b420a0$0300000a@erdem> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-1-590723305 Message-Id: From: Chris Sewell Subject: Re: late reply to: MULTI-EFFECTS & REVERB Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 10:01:46 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79027 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 15:01:53 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-1-590723305 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Pigtronix has some really unique stuff. On Feb 29, 2008, at 1:16 PM, Erdem Helvacioglu wrote: > hey, > > i always need more effects :) just kidding.... > > i was just wondering if there are any interesting hardware > multieffects units on the market besides the fireworx and eclipse. > lately i am much more interested in boutique analog pedals like > zvex ringtone, fuzz factory etc. i think i will try those soon. > > as for micropog. i have recently bought in NY. i use it for pitch > shifting the delay lines. for that effect, it is very good. but for > chords it is pretty useless unfortunately. it has a very organ like > sound which some of you may love or hate. > > thanks a lot and best regards. > > Erdem Helvacioglu > www.erdemhelvacioglu.com > www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > "Altered Realities" album is out on New Albion Records: > chosen as"Album of the year 2007" by All About Jazz Magazine > www.newalbion.com/NA131 > www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A/ > sr=8-1/qid=1161162264/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=UTF8 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: scott hansen > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 6:59 PM > Subject: OT: late reply to: MULTI-EFFECTS & REVERB > > late reply- > multi-effects-i will have to agree w/ someone who said: you have an > eventide eclipse and lexicon mpx100 and tc fireworks--AND YOU NEED > MORE EFFECTS? > > i thought the eventides where the king of good weird effects? way > out of my price range! my setup currently: (guitar or keyboard-) > zoom g2-digitech rp150-digitech synthwah-boss dd20-(kustom 12 watt > tube amp or direct to fostex mr8)... > > my cheapo set up allows me to get normal sounds or anything pretty > wacky if i need it. the zoom g2 has some interesting options w/ the > ring mod, and then it splits the wahs/ring/phaser/tremolo before > amp, and then gives you some other modulations options (chorus- > pitch, etc) after, and there are possibility of having 3 different > delays going (good if you are only using one effect devise)...so i > think its a good sonic mangler, but i'm not sure if i'd say it > would beat an eventide unit, i mean it does only cost 100$! > > as for REVERBS: i have minimal experience w/ a lot of gear, i did > like the reverbs on my digitech dsp256xl-it had a real 80's quality > to it, but i liked that. had a lot of spacey sounds. i also liked > my lexicon mpx100-thought the reverbs were good & all-UNTIL THE > THING DIED ON ME!!!!. didn't like that. from what i've read, it > appears that the folks who are masters of spacey reverb stuff > (Torn, Fripp, et al) all seem to use either the highend Lexicon > units or Eventide units. > > the funny thing about this thread is i have been thinking about my > reverb options-i like my multi-effect pedal options, but haven't > been loving the reverb sounds in the units and have debated getting > another rack unit for reverbs. just don't like the space they take > up. and i've also been missing the option of reversing samples that > my old dod d12 did so easy w/ the 6 sec samples. always searching i > guess.... > s--- > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. > Try it now. --Apple-Mail-1-590723305 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Pigtronix has some really unique stuff.=A0
On Feb 29, 2008, = at 1:16 PM, Erdem Helvacioglu wrote:

hey,
=A0
i = always need more effects :) just kidding....
=A0
i = was just wondering if there are any interesting hardware multieffects = units on the market besides the fireworx and eclipse. lately i am much = more interested in boutique analog pedals like zvex ringtone, fuzz = factory etc. i think i will try those soon.
=A0
as = for micropog. i have recently bought in NY. i use it for pitch shifting = the delay lines. for that effect, it is very good. but for chords it is = pretty useless unfortunately. it has a very organ like sound which some = of you may love or hate.
=A0
thanks a lot and best = regards.
=A0
Erdem Helvacioglu
www.erdemhelvacioglu.com
<= a = href=3D"http://www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu">www.myspace.com/erdemhelv= acioglu
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
"Altered = Realities" album is out on New Albion Records:
chosen as"Album of the = year 2007" by All About Jazz Magazine
www.newalbion.com/NA131
www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A/sr=3D= 8-1/qid=3D1161162264/ref=3Dpd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=3DUTF8
----- Original Message = -----
Sent:=A0Friday, February 29, 2008 6:59 = PM
=A0OT: = late reply to: MULTI-EFFECTS & REVERB

late = reply-
multi-effects-i will have to agree w/ someone who said: you = have an eventide eclipse and lexicon mpx100 and tc fireworks--AND YOU = NEED MORE EFFECTS?

i thought the eventides where the king of good = weird effects? way out of my price range! my setup currently: (guitar or = keyboard-)zoom g2-digitech rp150-digitech synthwah-boss dd20-(kustom 12 = watt tube amp or direct to fostex mr8)...

my cheapo set up allows = me to get normal sounds or anything pretty wacky if i need it. the zoom = g2 has some interesting options w/ the ring mod, and then it splits the = wahs/ring/phaser/tremolo before amp, and then gives you some other = modulations options (chorus-pitch, etc) after, and there are possibility = of having 3 different delays going (good if you are only using one = effect devise)...so i think its a good sonic mangler, but i'm not sure = if i'd say it would beat an eventide unit, i mean it does only cost = 100$!

as for REVERBS: i have minimal experience w/ a lot of gear, = i did like the reverbs on my digitech dsp256xl-it had a real 80's = quality to it, but i liked that. had a lot of spacey sounds. i also = liked my lexicon mpx100-thought the reverbs were good & all-UNTIL = THE THING DIED ON ME!!!!. didn't like that. from what i've read, it = appears that the folks who are masters of spacey reverb stuff (Torn, = Fripp, et al) all seem to use either the highend Lexicon units or = Eventide units.=A0

the= funny thing about this thread is i have been thinking about my reverb = options-i like my multi-effect pedal options, but haven't been loving = the reverb sounds in the units and have debated getting another rack = unit for reverbs. just don't like the space they take up. and i've also = been missing the option of reversing samples that my old dod d12 did so = easy w/ the 6 sec samples. always searching i = guess....
s---


Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! = Mobile.=A0Try it = now.

= --Apple-Mail-1-590723305-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 1 15:04:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7C4E63BEE0; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 15:04:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <26ba8d120802291724w15fc51fmaf8b0d6083204049@mail.gmail.com> References: <26ba8d120802251440n7c7cbb48yc174d9127d6288cd@mail.gmail.com> <83D9E5D1-2E61-44A8-B61C-FED3CF886ED4@mac.com> <26ba8d120802260024k50923fffg11f1fb9fa0f5b92e@mail.gmail.com> <47C3D0F4.9040007@tiscali.co.uk> <26ba8d120802261101x60cccaf3kf58e1c635366068e@mail.gmail.com> <26ba8d120802281658j21872f7cw9993fee328522454@mail.gmail.com> <44D05C6A-83AA-464B-927E-2CEDD2272A7B@mac.com> <26ba8d120802291724w15fc51fmaf8b0d6083204049@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <5D1C6B67-3258-47F7-94CD-BA27EFC9B7DE@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chris Sewell Subject: Re: Let's complain to Roland en masse! (was Re: Boss RC50 delay issues) Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 10:04:10 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79028 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 15:04:15 +0000 (UTC) If you guys want, I could set up a MySpace/disgruntledRC50users page. We could then all add our names, link to your videos, and link to any pertinent sites. On Feb 29, 2008, at 8:24 PM, Tom Ritchford wrote: > Well, of course. I'm not intending to host the videos myself! > > But we need a central page to point people to with the text > explanation. > > HOWEVER, if sound priority mode really works, I'm a lot less likely to > want to do the work. I still haven't had a chance to check it out > yet... > > > On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 7:43 AM, Chris Sewell > wrote: >> Why not just use YouTube? Perspective buyers are always searching for >> gear on there. >> >> >> On Feb 28, 2008, at 7:58 PM, Tom Ritchford wrote: >> >>> I think the website will be really easy to pull off. I just need to >>> get a time in front of the camera, or someone else needs to >>> deliver a >>> movie, for the ball to be rolling. >>> >>> Making the website itself, registering, hosting, that's like an hour >>> of my time. >>> >>> I have a theory that once we get a few movies, other people will >>> chime >>> in. Or at least, we'll have a few moves. >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 9:15 AM, Teddy Kumpel >>> wrote: >>>> I'm down with this Tom... the RC-50, while my main looper at this >>>> point, is >>>> really annoying because of the glitches, midi sync and time >>>> stretching. >>>> >>>> which do you think would be more effective, a class action letter >>>> from a >>>> lawyer or the website? or both have to happen? >>>> The suit is a good idea because, after all, their own marketing >>>> blurbs tout >>>> all those features as key reasons why to buy the thing. >>>> >>>> teddy k >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Feb 26, 2008, at 2:01 PM, Tom Ritchford wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 4:34 AM, doc rossi >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Feb 26, 2008, at 9:24 AM, Tom Ritchford wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> If we make a big fuss, saying, "YOUR UNIT HAS SERIOUS ISSUES AND >>>>>> YOU >>>>> >>>>>> WON'T FIX THEM" then it will be bad PR for them. at least we get >>>>>> to >>>>>> cost them some $$$.... because if people really believe "they >>>>>> make >>>>>> crappy products they won't support" then they won't buy them! >>>>> >>>>> I appreciate the idea, but I'm not sure they are worried about >>>>> PR - >>>> >>>> There isn't a company in the world that sells to consumers that >>>> isn't >>>> worried about PR. I mean, they care enough to put out their own >>>> magazine. >>>> >>>> Believe you me, this is the sort of conversation that companies are >>>> terrified of: >>>> >>>> "I'm going to get a Roland xxx" >>>> "Oh, my friend had endless trouble with Roland's yyy -- don't do >>>> it." >>>> >>>> Whole companies have collapsed based on that sort of thing. >>>> >>>> If you read the explanation from tech support, it's really >>>> dishonest. They >>>> don't want to fix their old products because they're busy making >>>> new >>>> products. In other words, it's a massive con to get your money >>>> with >>>> products that don't work, and they'll never fix. >>>> >>>> So. I'll set up the domain, and make some movies. My movies >>>> probably won't >>>> come for a week, as even though I have a nice camera, it stays near >>>> the >>>> gig.... so get on your movies. >>>> >>>> >>>> I'm also realizing that it might be fun to sue them in small claims >>>> court... >>>> as it isn't very time-consuming for me, and they probably won't >>>> show up to >>>> contest it. >>>> >>>> I have a particular hatred of being ripped off by large >>>> corporations because >>>> you know they're doing it to thousands of others. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> /t >>> >> >> > > > > -- > /t > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 1 15:36:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 731EE3BEE0; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 15:36:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=cIRWSgDAr1BkcxIsXhJQcoVQGlXEi1RAp4M52ORXO44=; b=rpOYt6qYcAghsndGfsOHnP6b8LhBqPY7cwiCvTTgE/b4+fd2GhV3tZQN7lvC2CRtNQbJvpmtBIc9tZE1jlCxStxiMpigpvBI7vfC9ky7j7EkispfWKUschoVbpY3gdEBzygtMe++ZAjNeodFbeV/EP5KamrTZrUvbKr8Z4DeBos= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=lFB6XzRRIW5wnUwZB6iCm3CD1ZdTNeA3iRNrBsKo48bn0pcJWDCB858EF/uhyFVy2VfXN3KxTmE/sfVhHiKo6coecAtC4UkVamQf5TfNa1h7/DfQwohjHK8Rx68wAfCg0Pk9dn885ua8iJF9Opog8ECnz4WvDOQFTY9pKe1RFSk= Message-ID: <4759e5740803010736y713371a4t5c3bdbdb8b43481f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 10:36:09 -0500 From: "todd reynolds" Reply-To: todd@toddreynolds.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: qualities of reverb In-Reply-To: <016501c87b6b$8ec85570$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_12223_1647943.1204385769171" References: <001201c87a1c$5b0b0160$1001a8c0@succubus> <016501c87b6b$8ec85570$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79029 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 15:36:12 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_12223_1647943.1204385769171 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Krispen, I might be being a total idiot here, but do we not need this combineL and R patcher to get audio out the outlets? i'm not sure what all the audio cables are so as to route them properly... On 3/1/08, Krispen Hartung wrote: > > > ...so, when you get here to Boise to play at BEMF, I'll show you my > max/msp > reverb patch. It is patch called yafr2, by Randy Jones and built in the > style of the Dr. David Griesinger (of Lexicon) reverb design. See mono to > stereo patch below for maxers. I can dig my stereo to stereo version for > anyone interested. It's an amazing sounding reverb. > > K- > > max v2; > #N vpatcher 72 44 715 844; > #P origin 7 -30; > #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; > #P newex 487 71 40 196617 / 127.; > #P flonum 311 149 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; > #P flonum 288 127 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; > #N comlet diffusion; > #P inlet 487 22 15 0; > #P newex 487 49 62 196617 clip 0. 127.; > #N comlet damping; > #P inlet 358 23 15 0; > #P newex 358 50 62 196617 clip 0. 127.; > #N comlet decay time; > #P inlet 236 24 15 0; > #P newex 236 51 62 196617 clip 0. 127.; > #N comlet audio in; > #P inlet 14 25 15 0; > #N comlet size; > #P inlet 105 24 15 0; > #P newex 105 50 62 196617 clip 0. 127.; > #P newex 105 73 111 196617 zmap 0. 127. 0.01 1.6; > #P newex 588 682 29 196617 t b f; > #P newex 588 705 29 196617 * 1.; > #P newex 154 422 29 196617 sig~; > #P flonum 299 106 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; > #P newex 419 614 77 196617 * 106.300003; > #P newex 401 539 71 196617 * 89.239998; > #P newex 366 423 29 196617 sig~; > #P newex 366 401 77 196617 * 141.699997; > #P newex 400 295 47 196617 * 30.51; > #P newex 210 612 41 196617 * 125.; > #P newex 194 540 47 196617 * 60.48; > #P newex 154 401 77 196617 * 149.600006; > #P newex 193 296 47 196617 * 22.58; > #N vpatcher 132 115 1088 352; > #P inlet 913 24 15 0; > #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; > #P window linecount 0; > #P newex 817 49 35 196617 * 75.; > #P newex 683 47 35 196617 * 80.; > #P newex 557 47 35 196617 * 69.; > #P newex 431 47 35 196617 * 25.; > #P newex 305 47 35 196617 * 50.; > #P newex 179 47 41 196617 * 160.; > #P newex 53 47 41 196617 * 110.; > #P window linecount 1; > #P newex 276 124 40 196617 *~ -1.; > #P newex 790 93 117 196617 comb~ 200. 75. 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 654 93 117 196617 comb~ 200. 80. 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 528 93 117 196617 comb~ 200. 69. 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 408 92 117 196617 comb~ 100. 25. 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 276 93 117 196617 comb~ 200. 50. 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 152 93 123 196617 comb~ 300. 160. 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 24 94 123 196617 comb~ 300. 110. 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 276 164 47 196617 *~ 0.15; > #P inlet 408 72 15 0; > #P inlet 790 73 15 0; > #P inlet 276 73 15 0; > #P inlet 654 73 15 0; > #P inlet 528 73 15 0; > #P inlet 24 74 15 0; > #P inlet 150 73 15 0; > #P outlet 276 191 15 0; > #P connect 2 0 9 0; > #P connect 17 0 9 1; > #P connect 24 0 17 0; > #P connect 1 0 10 0; > #P connect 24 0 18 0; > #P connect 18 0 10 1; > #P connect 5 0 11 0; > #P connect 15 0 16 0; > #P connect 13 0 16 0; > #P connect 14 0 16 0; > #P connect 11 0 16 0; > #P connect 12 0 8 0; > #P connect 16 0 8 0; > #P connect 10 0 8 0; > #P connect 9 0 8 0; > #P connect 8 0 0 0; > #P connect 19 0 11 1; > #P connect 24 0 19 0; > #P connect 7 0 12 0; > #P connect 24 0 20 0; > #P connect 20 0 12 1; > #P connect 3 0 13 0; > #P connect 21 0 13 1; > #P connect 24 0 21 0; > #P connect 4 0 14 0; > #P connect 22 0 14 1; > #P connect 24 0 22 0; > #P connect 6 0 15 0; > #P connect 23 0 15 1; > #P connect 24 0 23 0; > #P pop; > #P newobj 49 730 105 196617 p combineL; > #N vpatcher 10 59 977 304; > #P inlet 923 33 15 0; > #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; > #P window linecount 1; > #P newex 824 73 35 196617 * 52.; > #P newex 693 73 35 196617 * 27.; > #P newex 562 73 35 196617 * 35.; > #P newex 431 73 29 196617 * 3.; > #P newex 300 73 35 196617 * 55.; > #P newex 169 73 41 196617 * 135.; > #P window linecount 0; > #P newex 38 73 41 196617 * 110.; > #P newex 272 132 40 196617 *~ -1.; > #P newex 784 107 117 196617 comb~ 200. 50. 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 650 107 117 196617 comb~ 100. 25. 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 520 107 117 196617 comb~ 100. 35. 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 404 107 111 196617 comb~ 100. 3. 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 272 107 117 196617 comb~ 200. 55. 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 141 107 123 196617 comb~ 300. 135. 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 10 108 123 196617 comb~ 300. 110. 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 272 166 47 196617 *~ 0.15; > #P inlet 404 87 15 0; > #P inlet 784 87 15 0; > #P inlet 272 87 15 0; > #P inlet 650 87 15 0; > #P inlet 520 87 15 0; > #P inlet 10 88 15 0; > #P inlet 141 87 15 0; > #P outlet 272 197 15 0; > #P connect 2 0 9 0; > #P connect 24 0 17 0; > #P connect 17 0 9 1; > #P connect 1 0 10 0; > #P connect 24 0 18 0; > #P connect 18 0 10 1; > #P connect 5 0 11 0; > #P connect 15 0 16 0; > #P connect 11 0 16 0; > #P connect 13 0 16 0; > #P connect 14 0 16 0; > #P connect 16 0 8 0; > #P connect 12 0 8 0; > #P connect 9 0 8 0; > #P connect 10 0 8 0; > #P connect 8 0 0 0; > #P connect 19 0 11 1; > #P connect 24 0 19 0; > #P connect 7 0 12 0; > #P connect 20 0 12 1; > #P connect 24 0 20 0; > #P connect 3 0 13 0; > #P connect 21 0 13 1; > #P connect 24 0 21 0; > #P connect 4 0 14 0; > #P connect 22 0 14 1; > #P connect 24 0 22 0; > #P connect 6 0 15 0; > #P connect 23 0 15 1; > #P connect 24 0 23 0; > #P pop; > #P newobj 497 735 105 196617 p combineR; > #P newex 418 380 39 196617 noise~; > #P newex 206 379 39 196617 noise~; > #P newex 207 423 41 196617 *~ 20.; > #P newex 206 401 78 196617 lores~ 0 0.995; > #P newex 417 422 41 196617 *~ 20.; > #P newex 418 401 78 196617 lores~ 0 0.995; > #P newex 236 73 111 196617 zmap 0. 127. 0.05 0.9; > #P newex 348 638 104 196617 tapout~ 106.279999; > #P newex 348 614 65 196617 tapin~ 1000; > #P newex 141 638 68 196617 tapout~ 125.; > #P newex 141 612 65 196617 tapin~ 1000; > #P newex 348 563 140 196617 allpass~ 200 89.239998 0.5; > #P newex 141 563 116 196617 allpass~ 200 60.48 0.5; > #P newex 141 540 41 196617 *~ 0.5; > #P newex 348 540 41 196617 *~ 0.5; > #P newex 141 495 93 196617 onepole~ 1800 Hz.; > #P newex 358 71 120 196617 zmap 0 127. 20. 12000.; > #P newex 348 495 93 196617 onepole~ 1800 Hz.; > #P newex 348 451 165 196617 comb~ 1000. 141.699997 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 141 450 165 196617 comb~ 1000. 149.600006 0. 1. 0.; > #P newex 348 317 115 196617 allpass~ 50 30.51 -0.7; > #P newex 141 316 115 196617 allpass~ 50 22.58 -0.7; > #P newex 141 250 110 196617 allpass~ 20 9.3 0.625; > #P newex 141 224 122 196617 allpass~ 20 12.73 0.625; > #P newex 141 200 110 196617 allpass~ 10 3.58 0.75; > #P newex 141 175 110 196617 allpass~ 10 4.76 0.75; > #P newex 141 151 93 196617 onepole~ 1800 Hz.; > #N comlet out R; > #P outlet 497 764 15 0; > #N comlet out L; > #P outlet 49 762 15 0; > #P comment 80 763 401 196617 Plate reverb \, in the style of > Griesinger \, via J Dattorro. Randy Jones rej@2uptech.com; > #P fasten 8 0 31 0 146 344 54 344; > #P connect 31 0 1 0; > #P fasten 8 0 31 1 146 344 67 344; > #P fasten 17 0 31 2 146 590 80 590; > #P fasten 20 0 31 3 146 678 93 678; > #P fasten 11 0 31 4 353 477 106 477; > #P connect 47 0 46 0; > #P connect 46 0 45 0; > #P fasten 18 0 31 5 353 585 119 585; > #P fasten 22 0 31 6 353 714 132 714; > #P fasten 43 0 31 7 593 725 145 725; > #P fasten 48 0 3 0 19 140 146 140; > #P connect 3 0 4 0; > #P connect 4 0 5 0; > #P connect 5 0 6 0; > #P connect 6 0 7 0; > #P fasten 22 0 8 0 353 662 28 662 28 293 146 293; > #P lcolor 7; > #P connect 7 0 8 0; > #P connect 8 0 10 0; > #P connect 10 0 14 0; > #P connect 14 0 16 0; > #P connect 16 0 17 0; > #P connect 17 0 19 0; > #P connect 19 0 20 0; > #P connect 35 0 20 0; > #P fasten 41 0 33 0 304 372 159 372; > #P connect 33 0 42 0; > #P fasten 55 0 16 1 293 520 177 520; > #P fasten 42 0 10 1 159 444 184 444; > #P fasten 27 0 10 1 212 444 184 444; > #P fasten 41 0 32 0 304 290 198 290; > #P connect 32 0 8 1; > #P fasten 41 0 34 0 304 527 199 527; > #P connect 34 0 17 1; > #P connect 28 0 26 0; > #P connect 26 0 27 0; > #P fasten 41 0 35 0 304 597 215 597; > #P connect 13 0 3 1; > #P fasten 56 0 14 1 316 484 229 484; > #P connect 50 0 49 0; > #P connect 49 0 23 0; > #P connect 23 0 55 0; > #P fasten 45 0 41 0 110 98 304 98; > #P connect 13 0 56 0; > #P fasten 20 0 9 0 146 670 19 670 19 285 353 285; > #P lcolor 7; > #P fasten 7 0 9 0 146 272 353 272; > #P connect 9 0 11 0; > #P connect 11 0 12 0; > #P connect 12 0 15 0; > #P connect 15 0 18 0; > #P connect 18 0 21 0; > #P connect 21 0 22 0; > #P connect 40 0 22 0; > #P connect 52 0 51 0; > #P connect 51 0 13 0; > #P fasten 41 0 37 0 304 377 371 377; > #P connect 37 0 38 0; > #P fasten 55 0 15 1 293 520 384 520; > #P fasten 25 0 11 1 422 444 391 444; > #P fasten 38 0 11 1 371 445 391 445; > #P fasten 41 0 36 0 304 291 405 291; > #P connect 36 0 9 1; > #P fasten 41 0 39 0 304 527 406 527; > #P connect 39 0 18 1; > #P connect 24 0 25 0; > #P connect 29 0 24 0; > #P fasten 41 0 40 0 304 599 424 599; > #P fasten 56 0 12 1 316 484 436 484; > #P connect 54 0 53 0; > #P connect 53 0 57 0; > #P fasten 9 0 30 0 353 343 502 343; > #P connect 30 0 2 0; > #P fasten 9 0 30 1 353 343 515 343; > #P fasten 18 0 30 2 353 594 528 594; > #P fasten 22 0 30 3 353 691 541 691; > #P fasten 10 0 30 4 146 473 554 473; > #P fasten 17 0 30 5 146 604 567 604; > #P fasten 20 0 30 6 146 706 580 706; > #P fasten 57 0 44 0 492 272 593 272; > #P fasten 41 0 43 0 304 702 593 702; > #P connect 44 0 43 0; > #P connect 43 0 30 7; > #P connect 44 1 43 1; > #P pop; > > ------=_Part_12223_1647943.1204385769171 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Krispen, I might be being a total idiot here, but do we not need this combineL and R patcher to get audio out the outlets?  i'm not sure what all the audio cables are so as to route them properly... 

On 3/1/08, Krispen Hartung <khartung@cableone.net> wrote:

...so, when you get here to Boise to play at BEMF, I'll show you my max/msp
reverb patch. It is patch called yafr2, by Randy Jones and built in the
style of  the Dr. David Griesinger (of Lexicon) reverb design. See mono to
stereo patch below for maxers. I can dig my stereo to stereo version for
anyone interested. It's an amazing sounding reverb.

K-

max v2;
#N vpatcher 72 44 715 844;
#P origin 7 -30;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P newex 487 71 40 196617 / 127.;
#P flonum 311 149 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
#P flonum 288 127 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
#N comlet diffusion;
#P inlet 487 22 15 0;
#P newex 487 49 62 196617 clip 0. 127.;
#N comlet damping;
#P inlet 358 23 15 0;
#P newex 358 50 62 196617 clip 0. 127.;
#N comlet decay time;
#P inlet 236 24 15 0;
#P newex 236 51 62 196617 clip 0. 127.;
#N comlet audio in;
#P inlet 14 25 15 0;
#N comlet size;
#P inlet 105 24 15 0;
#P newex 105 50 62 196617 clip 0. 127.;
#P newex 105 73 111 196617 zmap 0. 127. 0.01 1.6;
#P newex 588 682 29 196617 t b f;
#P newex 588 705 29 196617 * 1.;
#P newex 154 422 29 196617 sig~;
#P flonum 299 106 35 9 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0;
#P newex 419 614 77 196617 * 106.300003;
#P newex 401 539 71 196617 * 89.239998;
#P newex 366 423 29 196617 sig~;
#P newex 366 401 77 196617 * 141.699997;
#P newex 400 295 47 196617 * 30.51;
#P newex 210 612 41 196617 * 125.;
#P newex 194 540 47 196617 * 60.48;
#P newex 154 401 77 196617 * 149.600006;
#P newex 193 296 47 196617 * 22.58;
#N vpatcher 132 115 1088 352;
#P inlet 913 24 15 0;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P window linecount 0;
#P newex 817 49 35 196617 * 75.;
#P newex 683 47 35 196617 * 80.;
#P newex 557 47 35 196617 * 69.;
#P newex 431 47 35 196617 * 25.;
#P newex 305 47 35 196617 * 50.;
#P newex 179 47 41 196617 * 160.;
#P newex 53 47 41 196617 * 110.;
#P window linecount 1;
#P newex 276 124 40 196617 *~ -1.;
#P newex 790 93 117 196617 comb~ 200. 75. 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 654 93 117 196617 comb~ 200. 80. 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 528 93 117 196617 comb~ 200. 69. 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 408 92 117 196617 comb~ 100. 25. 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 276 93 117 196617 comb~ 200. 50. 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 152 93 123 196617 comb~ 300. 160. 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 24 94 123 196617 comb~ 300. 110. 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 276 164 47 196617 *~ 0.15;
#P inlet 408 72 15 0;
#P inlet 790 73 15 0;
#P inlet 276 73 15 0;
#P inlet 654 73 15 0;
#P inlet 528 73 15 0;
#P inlet 24 74 15 0;
#P inlet 150 73 15 0;
#P outlet 276 191 15 0;
#P connect 2 0 9 0;
#P connect 17 0 9 1;
#P connect 24 0 17 0;
#P connect 1 0 10 0;
#P connect 24 0 18 0;
#P connect 18 0 10 1;
#P connect 5 0 11 0;
#P connect 15 0 16 0;
#P connect 13 0 16 0;
#P connect 14 0 16 0;
#P connect 11 0 16 0;
#P connect 12 0 8 0;
#P connect 16 0 8 0;
#P connect 10 0 8 0;
#P connect 9 0 8 0;
#P connect 8 0 0 0;
#P connect 19 0 11 1;
#P connect 24 0 19 0;
#P connect 7 0 12 0;
#P connect 24 0 20 0;
#P connect 20 0 12 1;
#P connect 3 0 13 0;
#P connect 21 0 13 1;
#P connect 24 0 21 0;
#P connect 4 0 14 0;
#P connect 22 0 14 1;
#P connect 24 0 22 0;
#P connect 6 0 15 0;
#P connect 23 0 15 1;
#P connect 24 0 23 0;
#P pop;
#P newobj 49 730 105 196617 p combineL;
#N vpatcher 10 59 977 304;
#P inlet 923 33 15 0;
#P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.;
#P window linecount 1;
#P newex 824 73 35 196617 * 52.;
#P newex 693 73 35 196617 * 27.;
#P newex 562 73 35 196617 * 35.;
#P newex 431 73 29 196617 * 3.;
#P newex 300 73 35 196617 * 55.;
#P newex 169 73 41 196617 * 135.;
#P window linecount 0;
#P newex 38 73 41 196617 * 110.;
#P newex 272 132 40 196617 *~ -1.;
#P newex 784 107 117 196617 comb~ 200. 50. 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 650 107 117 196617 comb~ 100. 25. 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 520 107 117 196617 comb~ 100. 35. 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 404 107 111 196617 comb~ 100. 3. 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 272 107 117 196617 comb~ 200. 55. 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 141 107 123 196617 comb~ 300. 135. 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 10 108 123 196617 comb~ 300. 110. 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 272 166 47 196617 *~ 0.15;
#P inlet 404 87 15 0;
#P inlet 784 87 15 0;
#P inlet 272 87 15 0;
#P inlet 650 87 15 0;
#P inlet 520 87 15 0;
#P inlet 10 88 15 0;
#P inlet 141 87 15 0;
#P outlet 272 197 15 0;
#P connect 2 0 9 0;
#P connect 24 0 17 0;
#P connect 17 0 9 1;
#P connect 1 0 10 0;
#P connect 24 0 18 0;
#P connect 18 0 10 1;
#P connect 5 0 11 0;
#P connect 15 0 16 0;
#P connect 11 0 16 0;
#P connect 13 0 16 0;
#P connect 14 0 16 0;
#P connect 16 0 8 0;
#P connect 12 0 8 0;
#P connect 9 0 8 0;
#P connect 10 0 8 0;
#P connect 8 0 0 0;
#P connect 19 0 11 1;
#P connect 24 0 19 0;
#P connect 7 0 12 0;
#P connect 20 0 12 1;
#P connect 24 0 20 0;
#P connect 3 0 13 0;
#P connect 21 0 13 1;
#P connect 24 0 21 0;
#P connect 4 0 14 0;
#P connect 22 0 14 1;
#P connect 24 0 22 0;
#P connect 6 0 15 0;
#P connect 23 0 15 1;
#P connect 24 0 23 0;
#P pop;
#P newobj 497 735 105 196617 p combineR;
#P newex 418 380 39 196617 noise~;
#P newex 206 379 39 196617 noise~;
#P newex 207 423 41 196617 *~ 20.;
#P newex 206 401 78 196617 lores~ 0 0.995;
#P newex 417 422 41 196617 *~ 20.;
#P newex 418 401 78 196617 lores~ 0 0.995;
#P newex 236 73 111 196617 zmap 0. 127. 0.05 0.9;
#P newex 348 638 104 196617 tapout~ 106.279999;
#P newex 348 614 65 196617 tapin~ 1000;
#P newex 141 638 68 196617 tapout~ 125.;
#P newex 141 612 65 196617 tapin~ 1000;
#P newex 348 563 140 196617 allpass~ 200 89.239998 0.5;
#P newex 141 563 116 196617 allpass~ 200 60.48 0.5;
#P newex 141 540 41 196617 *~ 0.5;
#P newex 348 540 41 196617 *~ 0.5;
#P newex 141 495 93 196617 onepole~ 1800 Hz.;
#P newex 358 71 120 196617 zmap 0 127. 20. 12000.;
#P newex 348 495 93 196617 onepole~ 1800 Hz.;
#P newex 348 451 165 196617 comb~ 1000. 141.699997 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 141 450 165 196617 comb~ 1000. 149.600006 0. 1. 0.;
#P newex 348 317 115 196617 allpass~ 50 30.51 -0.7;
#P newex 141 316 115 196617 allpass~ 50 22.58 -0.7;
#P newex 141 250 110 196617 allpass~ 20 9.3 0.625;
#P newex 141 224 122 196617 allpass~ 20 12.73 0.625;
#P newex 141 200 110 196617 allpass~ 10 3.58 0.75;
#P newex 141 175 110 196617 allpass~ 10 4.76 0.75;
#P newex 141 151 93 196617 onepole~ 1800 Hz.;
#N comlet out R;
#P outlet 497 764 15 0;
#N comlet out L;
#P outlet 49 762 15 0;
#P comment 80 763 401 196617 Plate reverb \, in the style of
Griesinger \, via J Dattorro. Randy Jones rej@2uptech.com;
#P fasten 8 0 31 0 146 344 54 344;
#P connect 31 0 1 0;
#P fasten 8 0 31 1 146 344 67 344;
#P fasten 17 0 31 2 146 590 80 590;
#P fasten 20 0 31 3 146 678 93 678;
#P fasten 11 0 31 4 353 477 106 477;
#P connect 47 0 46 0;
#P connect 46 0 45 0;
#P fasten 18 0 31 5 353 585 119 585;
#P fasten 22 0 31 6 353 714 132 714;
#P fasten 43 0 31 7 593 725 145 725;
#P fasten 48 0 3 0 19 140 146 140;
#P connect 3 0 4 0;
#P connect 4 0 5 0;
#P connect 5 0 6 0;
#P connect 6 0 7 0;
#P fasten 22 0 8 0 353 662 28 662 28 293 146 293;
#P lcolor 7;
#P connect 7 0 8 0;
#P connect 8 0 10 0;
#P connect 10 0 14 0;
#P connect 14 0 16 0;
#P connect 16 0 17 0;
#P connect 17 0 19 0;
#P connect 19 0 20 0;
#P connect 35 0 20 0;
#P fasten 41 0 33 0 304 372 159 372;
#P connect 33 0 42 0;
#P fasten 55 0 16 1 293 520 177 520;
#P fasten 42 0 10 1 159 444 184 444;
#P fasten 27 0 10 1 212 444 184 444;
#P fasten 41 0 32 0 304 290 198 290;
#P connect 32 0 8 1;
#P fasten 41 0 34 0 304 527 199 527;
#P connect 34 0 17 1;
#P connect 28 0 26 0;
#P connect 26 0 27 0;
#P fasten 41 0 35 0 304 597 215 597;
#P connect 13 0 3 1;
#P fasten 56 0 14 1 316 484 229 484;
#P connect 50 0 49 0;
#P connect 49 0 23 0;
#P connect 23 0 55 0;
#P fasten 45 0 41 0 110 98 304 98;
#P connect 13 0 56 0;
#P fasten 20 0 9 0 146 670 19 670 19 285 353 285;
#P lcolor 7;
#P fasten 7 0 9 0 146 272 353 272;
#P connect 9 0 11 0;
#P connect 11 0 12 0;
#P connect 12 0 15 0;
#P connect 15 0 18 0;
#P connect 18 0 21 0;
#P connect 21 0 22 0;
#P connect 40 0 22 0;
#P connect 52 0 51 0;
#P connect 51 0 13 0;
#P fasten 41 0 37 0 304 377 371 377;
#P connect 37 0 38 0;
#P fasten 55 0 15 1 293 520 384 520;
#P fasten 25 0 11 1 422 444 391 444;
#P fasten 38 0 11 1 371 445 391 445;
#P fasten 41 0 36 0 304 291 405 291;
#P connect 36 0 9 1;
#P fasten 41 0 39 0 304 527 406 527;
#P connect 39 0 18 1;
#P connect 24 0 25 0;
#P connect 29 0 24 0;
#P fasten 41 0 40 0 304 599 424 599;
#P fasten 56 0 12 1 316 484 436 484;
#P connect 54 0 53 0;
#P connect 53 0 57 0;
#P fasten 9 0 30 0 353 343 502 343;
#P connect 30 0 2 0;
#P fasten 9 0 30 1 353 343 515 343;
#P fasten 18 0 30 2 353 594 528 594;
#P fasten 22 0 30 3 353 691 541 691;
#P fasten 10 0 30 4 146 473 554 473;
#P fasten 17 0 30 5 146 604 567 604;
#P fasten 20 0 30 6 146 706 580 706;
#P fasten 57 0 44 0 492 272 593 272;
#P fasten 41 0 43 0 304 702 593 702;
#P connect 44 0 43 0;
#P connect 43 0 30 7;
#P connect 44 1 43 1;
#P pop;



------=_Part_12223_1647943.1204385769171-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 1 16:01:21 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C8BCB3BEF0; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 16:01:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=L/1NJ+Va+u3kGOwn2asOptycpZaaaOynpVd9CylI/5M=; b=i2QNMZYXo4gDCdicaMpkwa5PMjSuninEe60dtGDo2FDwlGZ20oti6UIRse1PIkHismb2WVqY2zQMgfDRJv/vBgMfSlXxlqnK6Eb8iUm9IrWvHCJeV8Dkv1aXO28/hcUGBb70r05pqGO2e6UIgVPsLYskZDWJMuoDNbS6qBHZON0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=kiSjyoTrq3+gf94naz5jba7pqSp7d/gYSmWlznmAXJHjcqm2htDZ0y+S/8QOfQCwh1FJ0oWsq0NtELK1Gf35eisYxMdZ49rwU1NzMt/th7LMB03NijtfvCfeu1bv7zD2o3zqgdKcDZQr/NW7sc0NUj73faZjZUuXXRvLERuEWQQ= Message-ID: <9e0440a60803010801t722b6a79pe8426db7b1243b5f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 11:01:19 -0500 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: RPM Files In-Reply-To: <182340.23796.qm@web45105.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_9878_17690095.1204387279501" References: <182340.23796.qm@web45105.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79030 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 16:01:21 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_9878_17690095.1204387279501 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Tim I was also on one of those collections that Mick was putting together. The last I heard was a pitch from him towards end of 07 encouraging all participatants to purchase a copy in support of the project. That seemed strangely a bit much. Anyhow sounds like this pursuit has hit a wall... Jim On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 7:25 AM, Tim Nelson wrote: > Hi Dennis, > > Yeah, I've got a track on one of last year's Starbucks > comps too; apparently what happened is that the > contact guy Mick had been corresponding with for > several months is no longer with the company, so he > had to start the whole process over again... I'm > guessing it's no longer going to happen. > > I don't see why it in any way held up your release, > though; the agreement with Mick is/was an inclusion > license thing, and you still retain all the rights to > your work. My 2007 RPM CD was on CDBaby before Mick > even started the comp project... > > -t- > > --- Dennis Moser wrote: > > > Okay ... here ya go. They are FTP directories and > > the files are all > > covered by Creative Commons licenses: > > > > The 2008 RPM Challenge: > > > > ftp://ftp.angrek.com/download/RPMK28/ > > > > The 2007 RPM Challenge (which got tied up from > > release due to one > > track being used on a compilation CD that was > > supposed be distributed > > by Starbucks, but I never heard anymore about it!): > > > > ftp://ftp.angrek.com/download/RPM2K7/ > > > > > > Hope you enjoy. > > > > Dennis > > > > > > > http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes > http://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson > http://www.youtube.com/speleman62 > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com ------=_Part_9878_17690095.1204387279501 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Tim I  was also on one  of those collections that Mick was putting together.  The last  I heard was a pitch from him towards end of 07 encouraging all participatants to purchase a copy in support of the project.  That seemed strangely a bit much. Anyhow sounds like this pursuit has hit a wall...
 
Jim

On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 7:25 AM, Tim Nelson <psychle62@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi Dennis,

Yeah, I've got a track on one of last year's Starbucks
comps too; apparently what happened is that the
contact guy Mick had been corresponding with for
several months is no longer with the company, so he
had to start the whole process over again... I'm
guessing it's no longer going to happen.

I don't see why it in any way held up your release,
though; the agreement with Mick is/was an inclusion
license thing, and you still retain all the rights to
your work. My 2007 RPM CD was on CDBaby before Mick
even started the comp project...

-t-

--- Dennis Moser <sinsofmachaut@gmail.com> wrote:

> Okay ... here ya go. They are FTP directories and
> the files are all
> covered by Creative Commons licenses:
>
> The 2008 RPM Challenge:
>
>             ftp://ftp.angrek.com/download/RPMK28/
>
> The 2007 RPM Challenge (which got tied up from
> release due to one
> track being used on a compilation CD that was
> supposed be distributed
> by Starbucks, but I never heard anymore about it!):
>
>              ftp://ftp.angrek.com/download/RPM2K7/
>
>
> Hope you enjoy.
>
> Dennis
>
>


http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes
http://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson
http://www.youtube.com/speleman62


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Long time no post!  But here I am :-) I have a gig in Vienna and I don't want to blow up my gear. I am wondering if anyone has experience using their hardware audio gear in countries with different voltage circuits. In particular,

I have a Mac laptop purchased in the USA, I know it works with a European power supply, all I have to do is put on an adapter and it works.

But, I also have a Behringer B-Control Rotary BCR2000 midi controller. I thought it was USB powered only but it needs to also use a power supply. Its says: 100 - 240 V~ 50/60 Hz 15 W...

Can I just throw an adapter tip on that when I get to Vienna (or do I need some type of transformer?)

also I have a Mackie 1202-VLZ3 mixer, it has a switch in the back to go from 100VAC or 120 VAC or 240 VAC, I am assuming that all I have to do is adjust the switch to 240 and put an adapter tip on ?

BUT I AM SCARED! So, if anyone knows about this stuff, I would really appreciate the help!

Thanks So Much!

Margaret


Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. --0-752000669-1204391804=:68598-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 1 17:55:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C34E3BEF0; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 17:55:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; bh=5OOOXLRU6k9JlfMlwT/KrKAoX9J14Ups081JKlmCcak=; b=eaX+p8jvyUb2SDuNsckoUflcIQ+VgtWq/EJ0/eREcO6VVSOd1mLmiJyauissTqEtbamNGkV0+aQ/OEj+0Dw4NDe8zWGY3ZWo/kT5IS0dOPE0/g4wAKO5ZxdeRfjpnyq/Uj1OsMEF0WT9iUAMYn1N2CZJqvrxWT1wvfT1cw/h0b8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=NsU5j2LJfIvYuHmJVEcQOhd1fO4DAgJT7zFD4ZihaHZOr3tgmoAp9cPgG0sI0B8RGtu3vQj3fz1l6zuSoEwz1AVV+DJuwXEYecNq9t2hy1WeMBa+eRSmvl5YphRTow39C5Ci7nkqnwEWlIhCRpf1W9MAWgNyyJdYEnzpl1fsRus= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 17:55:15 +0000 From: Os Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Augustus Loop - now Mac OS X VST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: 179d5f88003eea43 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79032 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 17:55:25 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I've just released a beta version of Augustus Loop for OS X VST. If anyone here needs that format (e.g. Cubase users), I'd be very interested to hear how you get on with it (previously it's been AU only). http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ The Windows VST version is next! cheers, os. -- os@collective.co.uk http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 1 18:01:17 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F3C43BEE8; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 18:01:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=G0ppAfBRvO0WUZZDXOmqdeLebYgzQp+W0sr3V72fS8M=; b=SWT38Ej9MvdqTOgnWVp9eXoydXFrvZngYihpF54d7u5f6H7D2Mrui8lI2aWpxdz9QGrUUByWzhrbvvZHLwZRb0Wil30P1+feDsrwS7q72FweDqkGwg8ufJu1FGCAE76WaGAIcVp05oeV2otUQNyBR5DiXAqQ29j7UYP2J5pgg6Q= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=ode+JYBebjUxhcYoo5kDFt8XVQTQF1jChZOwOO1PWodsTEVFz6ovGnd+G2fcZbK4DK20dF4OsYgPPIuDzCVf6IZYjYA9TsU5Z2OYwC/DJ4G9RmNGP2Lfp/CP65hHgYK2R0ZLJGkz4KpABK5bhsc8dZfmAkQzdF90O93fczwghmQ= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 10:01:15 -0800 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Using your USA gear in Europe (voltage adapter concerns) In-Reply-To: <635004.68598.qm@web81008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3875_15662488.1204394475685" References: <635004.68598.qm@web81008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <3pPcBB.A.bKF.tnZyHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79033 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 18:01:17 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_3875_15662488.1204394475685 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline If the power supply on your Behringer says what you're saying, then it sounds like an autoswitching supply, and you should be able to use just a plug addaptor. And yes, the Mackie just needs to be set correctly and also have an adaptor. On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 9:16 AM, margaret noble wrote: > Long time no post! But here I am :-) I have a gig in Vienna and I don't > want to blow up my gear. I am wondering if anyone has experience using their > hardware audio gear in countries with different voltage circuits. In > particular, > > I have a Mac laptop purchased in the USA, I know it works with a European > power supply, all I have to do is put on an adapter and it works. > > But, I also have a Behringer B-Control Rotary BCR2000 midi controller. I > thought it was USB powered only but it needs to also use a power supply. Its > says: 100 - 240 V~ 50/60 Hz 15 W... > > Can I just throw an adapter tip on that when I get to Vienna (or do I need > some type of transformer?) > > also I have a Mackie 1202-VLZ3 mixer, it has a switch in the back to go > from 100VAC or 120 VAC or 240 VAC, I am assuming that all I have to do is > adjust the switch to 240 and put an adapter tip on ? > > BUT I AM SCARED! So, if anyone knows about this stuff, I would really > appreciate the help! > > Thanks So Much! > > Margaret > > ------------------------------ > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > ------=_Part_3875_15662488.1204394475685 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline If the power supply on your Behringer says what you're saying, then it sounds like an autoswitching supply, and you should be able to use just a plug addaptor.  And yes, the Mackie just needs to be set correctly and also have an adaptor.

On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 9:16 AM, margaret noble <margaretnoble2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
Long time no post!  But here I am :-) I have a gig in Vienna and I don't want to blow up my gear. I am wondering if anyone has experience using their hardware audio gear in countries with different voltage circuits. In particular,

I have a Mac laptop purchased in the USA, I know it works with a European power supply, all I have to do is put on an adapter and it works.

But, I also have a Behringer B-Control Rotary BCR2000 midi controller. I thought it was USB powered only but it needs to also use a power supply. Its says: 100 - 240 V~ 50/60 Hz 15 W...

Can I just throw an adapter tip on that when I get to Vienna (or do I need some type of transformer?)

also I have a Mackie 1202-VLZ3 mixer, it has a switch in the back to go from 100VAC or 120 VAC or 240 VAC, I am assuming that all I have to do is adjust the switch to 240 and put an adapter tip on ?

BUT I AM SCARED! So, if anyone knows about this stuff, I would really appreciate the help!

Thanks So Much!

Margaret


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Dearest One,
 
   My name is Miss Mary Clement, a 20 years old undergraduate. I am only daughter of Mr. and Mrs. Johnson Clement, My father was a very wealthy Gold and Diamond Merchant in Monrovia the Gold Capital city of republic of Liberia in West Africa based in Abidjan Ivory Coast, my father was poisoned to death by his business associates while my mother died when I am little and my father took me so special because I am the only child.
 
   Before the death of my father on 4th June 2007 in a hospital here in Ivory Coast, he secretly called me and told me that he deposited some Gold and a huge sum of $7 million Dollars ($7, OOO, OOO USD) and the Diamond inside a box which he deposited with a Security and Trust Company her in Ivory Coast as family treasure. He also made me understand that it was because of this wealth he was poisoned while on a business trip with them and he instructed me to look for a foreign partner who will help me retrieve this box out from the trust Security Company. Without the knowledge of my uncle who was living with us then. On the 30th of December 2007 my uncle flew to the London with his children. With all that my father left behind, just because I am a woman and I do not have any right in my father property. My uncle seized all my father's companies and properties because of our traditional believe that I$B!G(Bm a woman. I was left with nothing and dropped out of school because of financial difficulties and my uncle's wicked attitude. Although I have contacted the security company they confirmed the lodgement.
 
   My purpose of contacting you is for you to help me, as my late father advised me at his sick bed.
1) To retrieve this box with the Gold, money and Diamonds inside to your location.
2) To make arrangement for me to come to your country to continue my education.
3) To utilize this money by investing it in good business.
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--0-275037921-1204394556=:84129-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 1 18:10:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC0FB3BEF0; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 18:10:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <01c301c87bc7$7ac55440$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: qualities of reverb (yafr max/msp Griesinger/Lexicon reverb) Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 11:10:05 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79034 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 18:10:09 +0000 (UTC) Todd / all - This code should help. The first patch is what I uses to get access to the main reverb patch. It has the audio inlets/outlets, etc. The second patch is the main yafr2 reverb path which I modifed to be stereo. I can't actually tell how what the max decay is because of the scale it uses, but based on my use of the reverb, it must be HUGE. You can see that it has the decay settings, early reflection balance, then it has high freq rollout, mix, etc. Note there are tons of allpass filters to make this type of reverb, a few delays, and some onepole filters. It's an amazing patch, better than any of the other max reverb pathes I've used like gverb, gigverb, etc. Kris Audio Connection Patch #N comlet Enable/Disable; #P inlet 571 152 15 0; #N comlet Enable/Disable; #P inlet 528 151 15 0; #P user matrixctrl 280 273 70 45 MatrixDefaultCell.pct MatrixDefaultBkgnd.pct 70 45 16 16 4 2 16 16 1 1 48 2 5120 0; #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P window linecount 1; #P newex 280 212 44 9109513 del 100; #P message 494 300 50 9109513 mute 0 0; #N comlet Audio Out R; #P outlet 427 399 15 0; #N comlet Audio Out L; #P outlet 395 399 15 0; #N comlet Enable/Disable; #P inlet 451 153 15 0; #N comlet Audio in R; #P inlet 417 153 15 0; #N comlet Audio in L; #P inlet 395 153 15 0; #P comment 288 233 50 9109513 effect on; #P message 339 336 54 9109513 ramp 100; #P newex 504 256 44 9109513 del 100; #P newex 451 178 52 9109513 route 0 1; #P newex 144 178 51 9109513 r loadbang; #P message 504 278 50 9109513 mute 0 1; #P message 280 249 115 9109513 2 0 1 3 1 1 0 0 0 1 1 0; #P message 158 249 115 9109513 0 0 1 1 1 1 2 0 0 3 1 0; #P newex 395 367 77 9109513 matrix~ 4 2 1.; #P newex 439 340 143 9109513 poly~ yafr2_stereo_reverb_poly; #P comment 169 233 41 9109513 bypass; #P connect 20 0 1 3; #P connect 19 0 1 2; #P connect 8 0 5 0; #P fasten 7 0 8 0 456 202 509 202; #P fasten 6 0 3 0 149 202 163 202; #P fasten 6 0 9 0 149 328 344 328; #P fasten 6 0 8 0 149 202 509 202; #P fasten 7 1 17 0 477 202 285 202; #P fasten 7 1 16 0 477 202 499 202; #P connect 12 0 2 1; #P fasten 12 0 1 1 477 333 577 333; #P connect 1 1 2 3; #P connect 13 0 7 0; #P connect 1 0 2 2; #P connect 16 0 1 0; #P connect 5 0 1 0; #P connect 11 0 2 0; #P fasten 11 0 1 0 400 322 444 322; #P connect 2 1 15 0; #P connect 2 0 14 0; #P fasten 18 0 2 0 285 322 400 322; #P fasten 9 0 2 0 344 359 400 359; #P connect 4 0 18 0; #P connect 3 0 18 0; #P connect 17 0 4 0; #P fasten 7 0 3 0 456 202 163 202; #P window clipboard copycount 21; Reverb Patch #P button 10 38 15 0; #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P window linecount 1; #N in~ 2; #P newobj 87 266 33 9109513 in~ 2; #N in~ 1; #P newobj 20 266 33 9109513 in~ 1; #P message 515 844 23 9109513 130; #P user gain~ 637 885 24 100 158 0 1.071519 7.94321 10.; #P user gain~ 549 885 24 100 158 0 1.071519 7.94321 10.; #N out~ 2; #P newobj 636 1015 39 9109513 out~ 2; #N out~ 1; #P newobj 549 1014 39 9109513 out~ 1; #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 12.; #P comment 757 141 42 9109516 R-Wet; #P comment 709 141 37 9109516 R-Dry; #P comment 579 140 37 9109516 L-Wet; #P comment 531 140 37 9109516 L-Dry; #P comment 1054 144 87 9109516 Right Channel; #P comment 302 143 78 9109516 Left Channel; #P window setfont "Sans Serif" 9.; #P newex 645 24 51 9109513 r loadbang; #P message 64 66 18 9109513 40; #P message 42 66 14 9109513 0; #P message 10 66 23 9109513 127; #P message 91 66 23 9109513 100; #P number 586 314 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P number 542 314 35 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P message 122 67 23 9109513 130; #P newex 668 166 55 9109513 sig~ 0.707; #P newex 799 167 39 9109513 sig~ 1.; #P newex 801 833 27 9109513 +~; #P user gain~ 723 165 24 100 158 0 1.071519 7.94321 10.; #P newex 745 802 33 9109513 *~ 0.; #P user gain~ 764 165 24 100 158 0 1.071519 7.94321 10.; #P newex 845 800 33 9109513 *~ 0.; #P newex 1104 273 63 9109513 prepend set; #P newex 1033 273 63 9109513 prepend set; #P newex 961 273 63 9109513 prepend set; #P window linecount 2; #P comment 1175 183 28 9109513 yafr -2up; #B color 7; #P user hslider 961 233 18 128 128 1 0 8; #P comment 1106 231 75 9109513 high frequency rolloff; #B color 12; #P user hslider 961 205 18 128 128 1 0 8; #P comment 1106 200 92 9109513 reverb/early reflections balance; #B color 12; #P user hslider 961 179 18 128 128 1 0 8; #P window linecount 1; #P comment 1106 179 60 9109513 reverb time; #B color 12; #P comment 890 656 73 9109513 early ref. mix; #P window linecount 2; #P comment 1133 645 73 9109513 reverb tail: series allpass.; #P window linecount 1; #P comment 806 765 158 9109513 uncorrelators make stereo effect; #P newex 1349 622 28 9109513 !- 0.; #P newex 1349 581 27 9109513 + 0.; #P window linecount 2; #P comment 761 553 93 9109513 early refs: allpass in feedback.; #P window linecount 1; #P newex 1350 534 28 9109513 !- 0.; #P newex 986 734 60 9109513 tapout~ 10.; #P newex 986 714 54 9109513 tapin~ 10.; #P newex 986 695 39 9109513 *~ 0.2; #P newex 1350 493 27 9109513 + 0.; #P newex 859 619 105 9109513 expr (1. - $f1) * 0.5; #P newex 859 595 92 9109513 zmap 0. 127. 0. 1.; #P newex 771 653 27 9109513 *~; #P newex 741 653 27 9109513 *~; #P newex 952 383 33 9109513 * 30.; #P newex 916 383 33 9109513 * 76.; #P newex 874 383 39 9109513 * 122.; #P newex 874 313 98 9109513 zmap 0. 127. 0. 1.; #P newex 741 498 92 9109513 onepole~ 1800 Hz.; #P newex 900 684 33 9109513 * 0.85; #P newex 854 705 102 9109513 allpass~ 200 0. 0.38; #P newex 1420 439 20 9109513 t b; #P flonum 1257 663 80 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P flonum 1256 622 80 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P flonum 1257 578 80 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P flonum 1255 534 80 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P newex 1381 602 27 9109513 * 1.; #P newex 1381 559 27 9109513 * 1.; #P newex 1381 514 27 9109513 * 1.; #P newex 1381 470 27 9109513 * 1.; #P flonum 1104 341 80 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P newex 741 341 92 9109513 onepole~ 1800 Hz.; #P newex 741 448 95 9109513 allpass~ 80 50. 0.2; #P newex 741 472 95 9109513 allpass~ 80 50. 0.2; #P newex 977 313 122 9109513 zmap 0. 127. 200. 8000.; #P newex 1097 615 108 9109513 allpass~ 200 0. 0.63; #P newex 1097 556 108 9109513 allpass~ 200 0. 0.72; #P newex 1097 527 108 9109513 allpass~ 200 0. 0.75; #P newex 741 522 45 9109513 *~ -0.3; #P newex 741 424 65 9109513 tapout~ 130.; #P newex 741 400 60 9109513 tapin~ 130.; #P newex 1104 313 101 9109513 zmap 0. 127. 1. 76; #P newex 1097 587 108 9109513 allpass~ 200 0. 0.662; #P comment 998 766 64 9109513 feedback tap; #P user panel 976 682 91 102; #X brgb 181 255 178; #X frgb 0 0 0; #X border 0; #X rounded 0; #X shadow 0; #X done; #P user panel 1092 519 119 157; #X brgb 181 255 178; #X frgb 0 0 0; #X border 0; #X rounded 0; #X shadow 0; #X done; #P user panel 737 384 124 201; #X brgb 181 255 178; #X frgb 0 0 0; #X border 0; #X rounded 0; #X shadow 0; #X done; #P user panel 737 683 233 102; #X brgb 181 255 178; #X frgb 0 0 0; #X border 0; #X rounded 0; #X shadow 0; #X done; #P user panel 737 590 233 83; #X brgb 181 255 178; #X frgb 0 0 0; #X border 0; #X rounded 0; #X shadow 0; #X done; #P user panel 947 165 273 106; #X brgb 181 255 178; #X frgb 0 0 0; #X border 0; #X rounded 0; #X shadow 0; #X done; #P newex 483 165 55 9109513 sig~ 0.707; #P newex 625 165 39 9109513 sig~ 1.; #P user gain~ 540 165 24 100 158 0 1.071519 7.94321 10.; #P newex 23 801 33 9109513 *~ 0.; #P user gain~ 583 166 24 100 158 0 1.071519 7.94321 10.; #P newex 103 801 33 9109513 *~ 0.; #P newex 65 836 27 9109513 +~; #P newex 358 269 63 9109513 prepend set; #P newex 287 269 63 9109513 prepend set; #P newex 215 269 63 9109513 prepend set; #P window linecount 2; #P comment 429 179 28 9109513 yafr -2up; #B color 7; #P user hslider 215 229 18 128 128 1 0 8; #P comment 360 227 75 9109513 high frequency rolloff; #B color 12; #P user hslider 215 201 18 128 128 1 0 8; #P comment 360 196 92 9109513 reverb/early reflections balance; #B color 12; #P user hslider 215 175 18 128 128 1 0 8; #P window linecount 1; #P comment 360 175 60 9109513 reverb time; #B color 12; #P message 671 359 50 9109513 1.16; #P window linecount 2; #P comment 159 342 118 9109513 magic numbers for early reflection times.; #P window linecount 1; #P comment 168 652 73 9109513 early ref. mix; #P window linecount 2; #P comment 411 641 73 9109513 reverb tail: series allpass.; #P window linecount 1; #P comment 84 761 158 9109513 uncorrelators make stereo effect; #P newex 603 615 28 9109513 !- 0.; #P newex 603 574 27 9109513 + 0.; #P window linecount 2; #P comment 39 549 93 9109513 early refs: allpass in feedback.; #P window linecount 1; #P newex 396 435 160 9109513 expr cos($f1* .06283185) * 0.3; #N counter 100; #X flags 0 0; #P newobj 396 414 66 9109513 counter 100; #P newex 604 527 28 9109513 !- 0.; #P newex 264 730 60 9109513 tapout~ 10.; #P newex 264 710 54 9109513 tapin~ 10.; #P newex 264 691 39 9109513 *~ 0.2; #P newex 604 486 27 9109513 + 0.; #P newex 396 393 50 9109513 metro 10; #P newex 137 615 105 9109513 expr (1. - $f1) * 0.5; #P newex 137 591 92 9109513 zmap 0. 127. 0. 1.; #P newex 49 649 27 9109513 *~; #P newex 19 649 27 9109513 *~; #P newex 230 379 33 9109513 * 30.; #P newex 194 379 33 9109513 * 76.; #P newex 152 379 39 9109513 * 122.; #P newex 152 309 98 9109513 zmap 0. 127. 0. 1.; #P newex 19 494 92 9109513 onepole~ 1800 Hz.; #P newex 652 429 20 9109513 t b; #P flonum 671 379 45 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P flonum 511 656 80 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P flonum 510 615 80 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P flonum 511 571 80 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P flonum 509 527 80 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P newex 635 595 27 9109513 * 1.; #P newex 635 552 27 9109513 * 1.; #P newex 635 507 27 9109513 * 1.; #P newex 635 463 27 9109513 * 1.; #P flonum 382 337 80 9 0 0 0 139 0 0 0 221 221 221 222 222 222 0 0 0; #P newex 19 337 92 9109513 onepole~ 1800 Hz.; #P newex 19 444 95 9109513 allpass~ 80 50. 0.2; #P newex 19 468 95 9109513 allpass~ 80 50. 0.2; #P newex 255 309 122 9109513 zmap 0. 127. 200. 8000.; #P newex 19 701 92 9109513 allpass~ 200 0. 0.35; #P newex 375 611 108 9109513 allpass~ 200 0. 0.63; #P newex 375 552 108 9109513 allpass~ 200 0. 0.72; #P newex 375 523 108 9109513 allpass~ 200 0. 0.75; #P newex 19 518 45 9109513 *~ -0.3; #P newex 19 420 65 9109513 tapout~ 130.; #P newex 19 396 60 9109513 tapin~ 130.; #P newex 382 309 101 9109513 zmap 0. 127. 1. 76; #P newex 375 583 108 9109513 allpass~ 200 0. 0.662; #P comment 276 762 64 9109513 feedback tap; #P user panel 254 678 91 102; #X brgb 181 255 178; #X frgb 0 0 0; #X border 0; #X rounded 0; #X shadow 0; #X done; #P user panel 370 515 119 157; #X brgb 181 255 178; #X frgb 0 0 0; #X border 0; #X rounded 0; #X shadow 0; #X done; #P user panel 15 380 124 201; #X brgb 181 255 178; #X frgb 0 0 0; #X border 0; #X rounded 0; #X shadow 0; #X done; #P user panel 16 681 233 102; #X brgb 181 255 178; #X frgb 0 0 0; #X border 0; #X rounded 0; #X shadow 0; #X done; #P user panel 15 586 233 83; #X brgb 181 255 178; #X frgb 0 0 0; #X border 0; #X rounded 0; #X shadow 0; #X done; #P user panel 201 161 273 106; #X brgb 181 255 178; #X frgb 0 0 0; #X border 0; #X rounded 0; #X shadow 0; #X done; #P comment 41 35 59 9109513 Long Decay; #P connect 30 0 31 0; #P fasten 30 0 22 1 676 460 657 460; #P fasten 30 0 23 1 676 502 657 502; #P fasten 30 0 24 1 676 547 657 547; #P fasten 30 0 25 1 676 591 657 591; #P connect 30 0 94 1; #P connect 30 0 95 1; #P connect 30 0 96 1; #P connect 30 0 97 1; #P connect 30 0 102 0; #P connect 96 0 120 1; #P connect 96 0 97 0; #P connect 95 0 118 1; #P connect 95 0 96 0; #P connect 94 0 114 1; #P connect 94 0 95 0; #P fasten 93 0 104 0 1109 510 1062 510 1062 679 905 679; #P fasten 93 0 94 0 1109 500 1330 500 1330 457 1386 457; #P fasten 102 0 94 0 1425 464 1386 464; #P connect 97 0 121 1; #P fasten 48 0 50 0 401 461 598 461 598 567 608 567; #P fasten 48 0 51 0 401 460 598 460 598 609 608 609; #P fasten 48 0 42 0 401 459 599 459 599 483 609 483; #P fasten 48 0 46 0 401 459 598 459 598 522 609 522; #P connect 48 0 120 0; #P connect 48 0 121 0; #P connect 48 0 114 0; #P connect 48 0 118 0; #P connect 121 0 101 0; #P connect 118 0 99 0; #P connect 120 0 100 0; #P connect 114 0 98 0; #P fasten 98 0 88 1 1260 556 1241 556 1241 612 1151 612; #P fasten 99 0 81 1 1262 599 1244 599 1244 584 1151 584; #P fasten 100 0 87 1 1261 642 1246 642 1246 554 1151 554; #P fasten 101 0 86 1 1262 685 1249 685 1249 525 1151 525; #P connect 82 0 93 0; #P fasten 126 0 106 0 966 200 879 200; #P connect 126 0 132 0; #P connect 126 0 82 0; #P connect 130 0 89 0; #P connect 130 0 134 0; #P connect 81 0 88 0; #P connect 87 0 81 0; #P connect 86 0 87 0; #P fasten 92 0 86 0 746 372 1102 372; #P fasten 85 0 83 0 746 545 852 545 852 392 746 392; #P fasten 85 0 110 0 746 598 746 598; #P fasten 85 0 86 0 746 549 1021 549 1021 468 1102 468; #P fasten 117 0 86 0 991 753 1054 753 1054 484 1102 484; #P fasten 128 0 112 0 966 228 864 228; #P connect 128 0 133 0; #P connect 116 0 117 0; #P connect 115 0 116 0; #P connect 103 0 135 0; #P fasten 103 0 115 0 859 728 960 728 960 687 991 687; #P connect 148 0 62 0; #P connect 148 0 130 0; #P connect 147 0 60 0; #P connect 147 0 128 0; #P connect 146 0 58 0; #P connect 146 0 126 0; #P connect 106 0 107 0; #P fasten 106 0 108 0 879 377 921 377; #P fasten 106 0 109 0 879 377 957 377; #P connect 104 0 103 1; #P fasten 136 0 135 1 769 860 873 860; #P fasten 112 0 110 1 864 615 763 615; #P connect 112 0 113 0; #P connect 111 0 103 0; #P connect 110 0 103 0; #P fasten 89 0 105 1 982 336 869 336 869 496 828 496; #P fasten 89 0 92 1 982 334 828 334; #P connect 137 0 139 0; #P connect 135 0 139 0; #P fasten 113 0 111 1 864 650 793 650; #P fasten 109 0 90 1 957 468 788 468; #P fasten 108 0 91 1 921 444 788 444; #P fasten 88 0 111 0 1102 642 776 642; #P fasten 138 0 137 1 728 792 773 792; #P connect 145 0 69 0; #P connect 145 0 136 0; #P connect 140 0 136 0; #P fasten 162 0 92 0 92 302 746 302; #P fasten 162 0 137 0 92 302 8 302 8 792 750 792; #P connect 105 0 85 0; #P connect 90 0 105 0; #P connect 91 0 90 0; #P connect 84 0 91 0; #P connect 83 0 84 0; #P fasten 107 0 84 0 879 420 746 420; #P connect 92 0 83 0; #P connect 142 0 71 0; #P connect 142 0 138 0; #P connect 141 0 138 0; #P connect 56 0 30 0; #P fasten 149 0 146 0 650 51 15 51; #P fasten 149 0 147 0 650 61 47 61; #P fasten 149 0 148 0 650 61 69 61; #P fasten 149 0 145 0 650 61 96 61; #P fasten 149 0 142 0 650 56 127 56; #P connect 149 0 41 0; #P connect 149 0 160 0; #P connect 149 0 56 0; #P connect 158 1 159 0; #P fasten 139 0 159 0 806 860 642 860; #P connect 159 0 157 0; #P connect 24 0 50 1; #P connect 24 0 25 0; #P connect 23 0 46 1; #P connect 23 0 24 0; #P connect 22 0 42 1; #P connect 22 0 23 0; #P fasten 21 0 16 1 387 506 336 506 336 672 65 672; #P fasten 21 0 22 0 387 493 581 493 581 450 640 450; #P fasten 31 0 22 0 657 457 640 457; #P connect 25 0 51 1; #P connect 69 1 144 0; #P connect 72 0 69 0; #P connect 158 0 156 0; #P connect 160 0 158 0; #P fasten 67 0 158 0 70 863 554 863; #P connect 71 1 143 0; #P connect 73 0 71 0; #P connect 51 0 29 0; #P connect 46 0 27 0; #P connect 50 0 28 0; #P connect 42 0 26 0; #P fasten 26 0 15 1 514 549 492 549 492 605 429 605; #P fasten 27 0 8 1 516 592 495 592 495 577 429 577; #P fasten 28 0 14 1 515 635 497 635 497 547 429 547; #P fasten 29 0 13 1 516 678 500 678 500 518 429 518; #P connect 47 0 48 0; #P connect 41 0 47 0; #P connect 9 0 21 0; #P fasten 58 0 33 0 220 196 157 196; #P connect 58 0 64 0; #P connect 58 0 9 0; #P connect 8 0 15 0; #P connect 14 0 8 0; #P connect 13 0 14 0; #P fasten 20 0 13 0 24 368 380 368; #P fasten 12 0 10 0 24 541 130 541 130 388 24 388; #P fasten 12 0 37 0 24 594 24 594; #P fasten 12 0 13 0 24 545 299 545 299 464 380 464; #P fasten 45 0 13 0 269 749 332 749 332 480 380 480; #P connect 62 0 17 0; #P connect 62 0 66 0; #P fasten 60 0 39 0 220 224 142 224; #P connect 60 0 65 0; #P connect 44 0 45 0; #P connect 43 0 44 0; #P connect 16 0 68 0; #P fasten 16 0 43 0 24 743 238 743 238 686 269 686; #P connect 33 0 34 0; #P fasten 33 0 35 0 157 373 199 373; #P fasten 33 0 36 0 157 373 235 373; #P fasten 39 0 37 1 142 611 41 611; #P connect 39 0 40 0; #P fasten 69 0 68 1 588 792 131 792; #P connect 163 0 146 0; #P connect 163 0 147 0; #P connect 163 0 148 0; #P connect 163 0 145 0; #P connect 163 0 142 0; #P fasten 17 0 32 1 260 332 147 332 147 492 106 492; #P fasten 17 0 20 1 260 330 106 330; #P fasten 40 0 38 1 142 646 71 646; #P connect 70 0 67 0; #P connect 68 0 67 0; #P fasten 36 0 18 1 235 464 66 464; #P fasten 35 0 19 1 199 440 66 440; #P fasten 15 0 38 0 380 638 54 638; #P fasten 71 0 70 1 545 863 51 863; #P connect 161 0 20 0; #P fasten 161 0 70 0 25 302 8 302 8 789 28 789; #P connect 38 0 16 0; #P connect 37 0 16 0; #P connect 32 0 12 0; #P connect 18 0 32 0; #P connect 19 0 18 0; #P connect 11 0 19 0; #P fasten 34 0 11 0 157 416 24 416; #P connect 10 0 11 0; #P connect 20 0 10 0; #P window clipboard copycount 164; From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 1 18:22:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 201F03BEF8; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 18:22:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=tC88N6MnczbV8gcVI0feJZXLJu/H0n7/AVutmZlVfxxgXlvwsP3BD0leUuI/VYUi2BRA2BYGNbSLaEDgA+sQ1O2IUlnMCZcAVgTxS19Pd77gmB3EiUF8krUeNLze5uMIG5DTPV4fuF8y54kozmnYZQ2O8yZ7Y8rb+vqU+R/1zU8=; X-YMail-OSG: OlT5deUVM1n8nidskLX5dyfGygb_BZCDYpgDJM_tV.WKiZwqW3UofTm0E.ax8D.No1y4rgUKR_TSLb2TMG8IKqaEy31Dn9YL61.EoBsZdKbswmBm5p0- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/818.31 YahooMailWebService/0.7.162 Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 10:22:02 -0800 (PST) From: margaret noble Subject: Re: Using your USA gear in Europe (voltage adapter concerns) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1472162671-1204395722=:44432" Message-ID: <11170.44432.qm@web81005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79035 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 18:22:04 +0000 (UTC) --0-1472162671-1204395722=:44432 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii wonderful, thank you so much for this fast reply! ----- Original Message ---- From: Travis Hartnett To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Sent: Saturday, March 1, 2008 10:01:15 AM Subject: Re: Using your USA gear in Europe (voltage adapter concerns) If the power supply on your Behringer says what you're saying, then it sounds like an autoswitching supply, and you should be able to use just a plug addaptor. And yes, the Mackie just needs to be set correctly and also have an adaptor. On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 9:16 AM, margaret noble wrote: Long time no post! But here I am :-) I have a gig in Vienna and I don't want to blow up my gear. I am wondering if anyone has experience using their hardware audio gear in countries with different voltage circuits. In particular, I have a Mac laptop purchased in the USA, I know it works with a European power supply, all I have to do is put on an adapter and it works. But, I also have a Behringer B-Control Rotary BCR2000 midi controller. I thought it was USB powered only but it needs to also use a power supply. Its says: 100 - 240 V~ 50/60 Hz 15 W... Can I just throw an adapter tip on that when I get to Vienna (or do I need some type of transformer?) also I have a Mackie 1202-VLZ3 mixer, it has a switch in the back to go from 100VAC or 120 VAC or 240 VAC, I am assuming that all I have to do is adjust the switch to 240 and put an adapter tip on ? BUT I AM SCARED! So, if anyone knows about this stuff, I would really appreciate the help! Thanks So Much! Margaret Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping --0-1472162671-1204395722=:44432 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
wonderful, thank you so much for this fast reply!

----- Original Message ----
From: Travis Hartnett <travishartnett@gmail.com>
To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Sent: Saturday, March 1, 2008 10:01:15 AM
Subject: Re: Using your USA gear in Europe (voltage adapter concerns)

If the power supply on your Behringer says what you're saying, then it sounds like an autoswitching supply, and you should be able to use just a plug addaptor.  And yes, the Mackie just needs to be set correctly and also have an adaptor.

On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 9:16 AM, margaret noble <margaretnoble2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
Long time no post!  But here I am :-) I have a gig in Vienna and I don't want to blow up my gear. I am wondering if anyone has experience using their hardware audio gear in countries with different voltage circuits. In particular,

I have a Mac laptop purchased in the USA, I know it works with a European power supply, all I have to do is put on an adapter and it works.

But, I also have a Behringer B-Control Rotary BCR2000 midi controller. I thought it was USB powered only but it needs to also use a power supply. Its says: 100 - 240 V~ 50/60 Hz 15 W...

Can I just throw an adapter tip on that when I get to Vienna (or do I need some type of transformer?)

also I have a Mackie 1202-VLZ3 mixer, it has a switch in the back to go from 100VAC or 120 VAC or 240 VAC, I am assuming that all I have to do is adjust the switch to 240 and put an adapter tip on ?

BUT I AM SCARED! So, if anyone knows about this stuff, I would really appreciate the help!

Thanks So Much!

Margaret


Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.




Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. --0-1472162671-1204395722=:44432-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 1 19:24:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 88A193BEF1; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 19:24:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=ONQ7K9IGWKhdSgrcrOgSIPSlHFide8MAOdl2hcdrVRA=; b=AL26EkIJTINowDb3o8SWXtoV376Yc7i/56oaUX9noyuhLo87+nfOymFhYpWDES2C3YRNiil4cRvUQ0DxXNN7srOCRfDD7nVol8YbaNZGeTCz2V0/SLhgT7e3klzU/0ciQj4UaXAb+PfeE/ASUou0tknm+hTv2DARZsORP28w67s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=WaChhiMHaDIeDaHpYB/NUFBqnN3dhGlihBxApP4MZm91ljhjjlJR9dUI0KXoxDbY/GQyXmf3985SImhVkAysJAWOUazPwvzdlG1PffeUIBpmlK+JubS2TIrDX2RqBLIYPwjx2KAZByKTJMUTl1EvJdOg8/9hILHpf3jx6V4n7s4= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 14:24:03 -0500 From: "Dennis Moser" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: RPM Files In-Reply-To: <9e0440a60803010801t722b6a79pe8426db7b1243b5f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <182340.23796.qm@web45105.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <9e0440a60803010801t722b6a79pe8426db7b1243b5f@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79036 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 19:24:10 +0000 (UTC) Even after reading the actual agreement (which, as you point out, Tim, still gives me all rights on the music and was a licensing agreement only), there was some verbiage from Mick about us not using the tracks selected for other purposes while it was being considered for the compilation. THAT gave me pause, in so far as I did not release any of the other material from the 2007 RPM effort. At this point, I feel not further need to keep any of the material "off the market" and will be preparing the materials to be submitted to Tunecore for regular release. Or I may just simply make it available for free off of my website. There was some solid stuff in that 2007 release and I am anxious to get it out to be heard and enjoyed. And yes, we were all being encouraged to purchase copies in support of the project ... and that was the last I heard of the project. A pity, in many ways. So it goes. In the meantime, let's share and enjoy what we have done! Dennis On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 11:01 AM, Jim Goodin wrote: > Tim I was also on one of those collections that Mick was putting together. > The last I heard was a pitch from him towards end of 07 encouraging all > participatants to purchase a copy in support of the project. That seemed > strangely a bit much. Anyhow sounds like this pursuit has hit a wall... > > Jim > > > > On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 7:25 AM, Tim Nelson wrote: > > > Hi Dennis, > > > > Yeah, I've got a track on one of last year's Starbucks > > comps too; apparently what happened is that the > > contact guy Mick had been corresponding with for > > several months is no longer with the company, so he > > had to start the whole process over again... I'm > > guessing it's no longer going to happen. > > > > I don't see why it in any way held up your release, > > though; the agreement with Mick is/was an inclusion > > license thing, and you still retain all the rights to > > your work. My 2007 RPM CD was on CDBaby before Mick > > even started the comp project... > > > > -t- > > > > > > > > > > --- Dennis Moser wrote: > > > > > Okay ... here ya go. They are FTP directories and > > > the files are all > > > covered by Creative Commons licenses: > > > > > > The 2008 RPM Challenge: > > > > > > ftp://ftp.angrek.com/download/RPMK28/ > > > > > > The 2007 RPM Challenge (which got tied up from > > > release due to one > > > track being used on a compilation CD that was > > > supposed be distributed > > > by Starbucks, but I never heard anymore about it!): > > > > > > ftp://ftp.angrek.com/download/RPM2K7/ > > > > > > > > > Hope you enjoy. > > > > > > Dennis > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes > > http://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson > > http://www.youtube.com/speleman62 > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > > > > > > > -- > The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com > MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > Chinapainting - > http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Chinapainting on My Space - > http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com > The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - > http://www.woodandwiremusic.com > Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars > - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay > Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 1 20:26:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 90C483BEF9; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 20:26:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=HKfFb5qJeAEA:10 a=L3s9qoVMAAAA:8 a=1P9HBUEojRVTxrq1_PcA:9 a=I04izPeCwp4YwJRabfYA:7 a=qjl28FGf-n12Y_vY6v0wBjLWNeUA:4 a=b8hG5vVbyAkA:10 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=pG9AB6WjZQwpfrmh3xUA:9 a=KSCQEoAvbBiZ0Ew9Y5IA:7 a=CDrHCgYodrs7a4ptl6WQnV2EiqkA:4 a=37WNUvjkh6kA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) In-Reply-To: <635004.68598.qm@web81008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <635004.68598.qm@web81008.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-6-610198179 Message-Id: <40351E65-E387-4CE0-B2BD-59064EBF57F6@zoekeating.com> From: info at zoekeating Subject: Re: Using your USA gear in Europe (voltage adapter concerns) Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 12:26:21 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79037 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 20:26:27 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-6-610198179 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hey Margaret, I've performed safely many times in Europe AND I've blown up my gear, so I think I can tell you the worst that will happen... All you need is a "step-down" transformer box. - hardwire all your equipment into a power conditioner* or powerstrip* built into your rack (this is great for the US too, because then you only ever need one power outlet). - plug the powerstrip or powerconditioner into the converter box - determine how much power you need, 200W? 300W? and buy a step-down transformer that fits your needs. i just run loopers and a foot pedal so i use the 100W one, which is more than plenty. i have a Euro one and a UK one, but you can also just get a UK one and put Euro adaptor on the end i guess, or vice-versa. - this is the box i bring with me: VOD 100 step down transformer. http://www.voltage-converter-transformers.com/step-down-transformer.html As for the worst that can happen.... in a coffee-deprived jet-lagged moment, I accidentally plugged my rack into 240 with just an adaptor* (NOT a transformer...) and everything went "poof!". It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, yeah there was some blue smoke. I destroyed all my wall warts, but not the gear. It was the first time I've ever loved wall warts. The only piece of gear that was truly fried, was my FCB1010 pedal, because it is the only thing that uses a uni-power cable, and has no wall wart, so I toasted its innards. I just replaced all my wall warts, although one (D-Tar Soltice Preamp) was difficult because it is a pretty specific voltage/ milliamp combo. I had to use a different Preamp. You're right, digital gear, like a computer, or an Electrix Repeater, you can use on either voltage, with just an adaptor. All my gear is digital now, so I don't really need transformer anymore, just an adaptor, (except the FCB1010, which has a switchable fuse, so when I go over now I just turn the fuse around and use a Euro uni-cable). notes: *power conditioner = like a rack-mounted furman thing, which is really just a glorified powerstrip *power strip = to save rack-space i have a powerstrip velcro'd into the back of my rack, everything plugs into there and i never have to unplug anything * adaptor = this just changes the prong-size to fit the electrical sockets of the country you're in. it does not step-down the power!! Did I answer your questions or just confuse you!? Zoe On Mar 1, 2008, at 9:16 AM, margaret noble wrote: > Long time no post! But here I am :-) I have a gig in Vienna and I > don't want to blow up my gear. I am wondering if anyone has > experience using their hardware audio gear in countries with > different voltage circuits. In particular, > > I have a Mac laptop purchased in the USA, I know it works with a > European power supply, all I have to do is put on an adapter and it > works. > > But, I also have a Behringer B-Control Rotary BCR2000 midi > controller. I thought it was USB powered only but it needs to also > use a power supply. Its says: 100 - 240 V~ 50/60 Hz 15 W... > > Can I just throw an adapter tip on that when I get to Vienna (or do > I need some type of transformer?) > > also I have a Mackie 1202-VLZ3 mixer, it has a switch in the back > to go from 100VAC or 120 VAC or 240 VAC, I am assuming that all I > have to do is adjust the switch to 240 and put an adapter tip on ? > > BUT I AM SCARED! So, if anyone knows about this stuff, I would > really appreciate the help! > > Thanks So Much! > > Margaret > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. --Apple-Mail-6-610198179 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hey Margaret,=A0

I've performed safely many = times in Europe AND I've blown up my gear, so I think I can tell you the = worst that will happen...

All you need is a = "step-down" transformer box.=A0
- hardwire all your equipment = into a power conditioner* or powerstrip* built into your rack (this is = great for the US too, because then you only ever need one power = outlet).=A0
- plug the powerstrip or powerconditioner into the = converter box
- determine how much power you need, 200W? 300W? = and buy a step-down transformer that fits your needs. i just run loopers = and a foot pedal so i use the 100W one, which is more than plenty. i = have a Euro one and a UK one, but you can also just get a UK one and put = Euro adaptor on the end i guess, or vice-versa.

- =A0this is the box i = bring with me: VOD 100 step down transformer.=A0http://www.voltage-converter-transformers.com/step-down-transforme= r.html

As = for the worst that can happen....

in a coffee-deprived = jet-lagged moment, I accidentally plugged my rack into 240 with just an = adaptor* (NOT a transformer...) and everything went "poof!". It wasn't = as bad as I thought it would be, yeah there was some blue smoke. I = destroyed all my wall warts, but not the gear. It was the first time = I've ever loved wall warts. The only piece of gear that was truly fried, = was my FCB1010 pedal, because it is the only thing that uses a uni-power = cable, and has no wall wart, so I toasted its innards.

I just replaced all my = wall warts, although one (D-Tar Soltice Preamp) was difficult because it = is a pretty specific voltage/milliamp combo. I had to use a different = Preamp.


You're right, digital = gear, like a computer, or an Electrix Repeater, you can use on either = voltage, with just an adaptor. All my gear is digital now, so I don't = really need transformer anymore, just an adaptor, (except the FCB1010, = which has a switchable fuse, so when I go over now I just turn the fuse = around and use a Euro uni-cable).

notes:

*power conditioner =3D = like a rack-mounted furman thing, which is really just a glorified = powerstrip
*power strip =3D to save rack-space i have a = powerstrip velcro'd into the back of my rack, everything plugs into = there and i never have to unplug anything
* adaptor =3D this = just changes the prong-size to fit the electrical sockets of the country = you're in. it does not step-down the power!!

Did I answer your = questions or just confuse you!?

Zoe


On Mar 1, 2008, = at 9:16 AM, margaret noble wrote:

Long = time no post!=A0 But here I am :-) I have a gig in Vienna and I don't = want to blow up my gear. I am wondering if anyone has experience using = their hardware audio gear in countries with different voltage circuits. = In particular,

I have a Mac laptop purchased in the USA, I know = it works with a European power supply, all I have to do is put on an = adapter and it works.

But, I also have a Behringer B-Control = Rotary BCR2000 midi controller. I thought it was USB powered only but it = needs to also use a power supply. Its says: 100 - 240 V~ 50/60 Hz 15 = W...

Can I just throw an adapter tip on that when I get to Vienna = (or do I need some type of transformer?)

also I have a Mackie = 1202-VLZ3 mixer, it has a switch in the back to go from 100VAC or 120 = VAC or 240 VAC, I am assuming that all I have to do is adjust the switch = to 240 and put an adapter tip on ?

BUT I AM SCARED! So, if anyone = knows about this stuff, I would really appreciate the = help!

Thanks So Much!

Margaret


Never miss a thing.=A0Mak= e Yahoo your = homepage.

= --Apple-Mail-6-610198179-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Mar 1 23:28:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 64D063BEF3; Sat, 1 Mar 2008 23:28:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 422 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sat, 01 Mar 2008 23:28:53 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=sprynet.com; b=PP5eODx8qxYlfsQjKKiPVgdLdsumZZfX5Ad9nNFaqXAZSDpmc6gh4pYl+OcAyAjC; h=Received:Reply-To:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:Importance:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Reply-To: From: "Brad's Mail" To: Subject: Re:Using your USA gear in Europe (voltage adapter concerns) Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 17:21:47 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-ELNK-Trace: 5845cf3728b4ed5d1745d4e921052fe1faef81d128501e5d4f1e7cd1113b3b7364aa1af578a0b806cda864c4540ec7a0350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.245.27.137 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79038 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 23:28:54 +0000 (UTC) Played in Holland in November 2007 with a laptop and many pedals. Got a radioshack transformer and a little power strip, put the laptop and gear plugs into the power strip and the transformer after the powerstrip (after calculating all my current needs together were within the ability of the transformer.) Worked well, fit in computer bag. Newbie Brad No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.2/1305 - Release Date: 2/29/2008 6:32 PM From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 2 01:21:32 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 941093BF04; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 01:21:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <47CA0112.9010109@aol.com> Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 02:21:22 +0100 From: chrisrover User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (Macintosh/20080213) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Using your USA gear in Europe References: <20080301182205.956423BF00@arsenic.violacea.com> In-Reply-To: <20080301182205.956423BF00@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-AOL-IP: 84.185.5.25 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) X-Spam-Flag: NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79039 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 01:21:32 +0000 (UTC) On the Mackie mixer you might have to change the fuse (sometimes conveniently located next to the powerplug). If the unit is switchable, switched or "autoswitch" and has a three prong receptacle all you have to do is change the power chord to a Eurostyle (two round prongs and the ground is on the sides). These should be available in any hardware, electrical supply, department store in Vienna or maybe you can have someone get them for you beforehand. (When you go shopping look for a "Kaufhaus", the "Haushaltswarenabteilung" and ask for "Netzkabel" or "Gerätekabel" they shouldn't cost more than 3-5 Euro or less). Other adapters and voltage converters sometimes will omit the ground and are not recommended for musical instruments. The Mac as you said should be fine with the universal powersupply and the mac adapter. Never use any of those hairdryer type transformers - they will blow nothing else but your equipment. At http://www.international-electrical-supplies.com/austria-plug-adapters.html you can see the type of plug used to get juice in most of Europe (WA-9). Welcome and good luck in Europe Christian Rover www.christianrover.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 2 10:45:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A81E33BEFB; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 10:45:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=gnV1Rljm2efW+ZB73c3kddhhId3WuSRVKHRfTSR9+MYS/0jq/w8DoY88CHU6iMfJUA3hn9pOKXrFlVUlm48khrjCckgesaVX95BGyJoETNtX1i37JWd9zstfb+MlZi6JgVAqkE0wONcHs67OOEcN4LS1hjOl62pPzXHFohqg7jc=; X-YMail-OSG: GbP_jcYVM1k.HHjYr6nDcxaoy82gLo0aGAAZgXRv.ZoUikNEyDlx4Pwr7FSKUBdoLDtH_OaHhZ5tVAVXOQP6pSDi7w-- Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 02:45:36 -0800 (PST) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: qualities of reverb To: Loopers Delight In-Reply-To: <010b01c87c6b$e488bad0$0901a8c0@kleiner> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <268537.4969.qm@web38614.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79040 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 10:45:37 +0000 (UTC) what about the old Roland SDE space delay and korg proccessors,there were so many different models anybody has experience with those units or a website where i can read about them? Luis --- Tilmann Dehnhard wrote: > yes, i also remember that reverb... > it was looooooooooooooooooooooooong... > > tilmann > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rick Walker" > To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" > > Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 12:54 PM > Subject: RE: qualities of reverb > > > > Duncan Goddard mentioned a trick with his trusty > microverb: > > > > Which reminded me: > > > > The Alesis Midverb 2 had an infinite reverb in it > that was just amazing. > > (patch #32 if memory serves) > > > > Eventually I had to upgrade my reverbs (with more > Alesis and finally > > Lexicons) > > but I have never heard an infinite reverb setting > that was so musical as > > that > > old archaic unit. One of my favorite tricks when > I was first doing lop > > > > The rest of the verbs were pretty pathetic, > unfortuanately and the Alesis > > gear > > just doesn't seem to last very long. > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 2 11:09:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9805C3BF0C; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 11:09:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=aqbH6bXR7vOSCJqUJ1XyWIy11/ttRPIGs1hEVka0X0Y8WISfJtvuptPbeZdgf2maVZUwtabN55P03pXnVuzv8HZKfl2i4Iu5hAw7eB/wP0qdAs6yl2NsLw9Cw29PmCu9PQRCfRw+7WjPBF3Fyq7gh81sS0AD2AtY7aF3TEHuck8=; X-YMail-OSG: U2XhTEMVM1lia0.QR0oEdU0CRxZcHhq1aicvqiSOe4wolpJzNlU6KanvYivbPI7KqZYF6S3VtdBsUBMajFFNJpmVKaskkSEHSjkhg5F5PUXIChgUPgI- Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 03:09:46 -0800 (PST) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: Using your USA gear in Europe (voltage adapter concerns) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <40351E65-E387-4CE0-B2BD-59064EBF57F6@zoekeating.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <524517.89505.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79041 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 11:09:47 +0000 (UTC) I am still amazed that furman and all of this power conditioner companies dont make single "19" racks with a voltage selector,or do they? please prove me wrong! cheers Luis --- info at zoekeating wrote: > Hey Margaret, > > I've performed safely many times in Europe AND I've > blown up my gear, > so I think I can tell you the worst that will > happen... > > All you need is a "step-down" transformer box. > - hardwire all your equipment into a power > conditioner* or > powerstrip* built into your rack (this is great for > the US too, > because then you only ever need one power outlet). > - plug the powerstrip or powerconditioner into the > converter box > - determine how much power you need, 200W? 300W? and > buy a step-down > transformer that fits your needs. i just run loopers > and a foot pedal > so i use the 100W one, which is more than plenty. i > have a Euro one > and a UK one, but you can also just get a UK one and > put Euro adaptor > on the end i guess, or vice-versa. > > - this is the box i bring with me: VOD 100 step > down transformer. > http://www.voltage-converter-transformers.com/step-down-transformer.html > > As for the worst that can happen.... > > in a coffee-deprived jet-lagged moment, I > accidentally plugged my > rack into 240 with just an adaptor* (NOT a > transformer...) and > everything went "poof!". It wasn't as bad as I > thought it would be, > yeah there was some blue smoke. I destroyed all my > wall warts, but > not the gear. It was the first time I've ever loved > wall warts. The > only piece of gear that was truly fried, was my > FCB1010 pedal, > because it is the only thing that uses a uni-power > cable, and has no > wall wart, so I toasted its innards. > > I just replaced all my wall warts, although one > (D-Tar Soltice > Preamp) was difficult because it is a pretty > specific voltage/ > milliamp combo. I had to use a different Preamp. > > > You're right, digital gear, like a computer, or an > Electrix Repeater, > you can use on either voltage, with just an adaptor. > All my gear is > digital now, so I don't really need transformer > anymore, just an > adaptor, (except the FCB1010, which has a switchable > fuse, so when I > go over now I just turn the fuse around and use a > Euro uni-cable). > > notes: > > *power conditioner = like a rack-mounted furman > thing, which is > really just a glorified powerstrip > *power strip = to save rack-space i have a > powerstrip velcro'd into > the back of my rack, everything plugs into there and > i never have to > unplug anything > * adaptor = this just changes the prong-size to fit > the electrical > sockets of the country you're in. it does not > step-down the power!! > > Did I answer your questions or just confuse you!? > > Zoe > > > On Mar 1, 2008, at 9:16 AM, margaret noble wrote: > > > Long time no post! But here I am :-) I have a gig > in Vienna and I > > don't want to blow up my gear. I am wondering if > anyone has > > experience using their hardware audio gear in > countries with > > different voltage circuits. In particular, > > > > I have a Mac laptop purchased in the USA, I know > it works with a > > European power supply, all I have to do is put on > an adapter and it > > works. > > > > But, I also have a Behringer B-Control Rotary > BCR2000 midi > > controller. I thought it was USB powered only but > it needs to also > > use a power supply. Its says: 100 - 240 V~ 50/60 > Hz 15 W... > > > > Can I just throw an adapter tip on that when I get > to Vienna (or do > > I need some type of transformer?) > > > > also I have a Mackie 1202-VLZ3 mixer, it has a > switch in the back > > to go from 100VAC or 120 VAC or 240 VAC, I am > assuming that all I > > have to do is adjust the switch to 240 and put an > adapter tip on ? > > > > BUT I AM SCARED! So, if anyone knows about this > stuff, I would > > really appreciate the help! > > > > Thanks So Much! > > > > Margaret > > > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 2 11:38:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B5303BF08; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 11:38:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=j4ntXzK8MBPbj6KnK0L39nUHqKUN+dgK3ZhJkVbmMHeIq+xmGEY6zNwSW3DtuwtQVrbsZGIb2/3lO9lVjo2z+uSJG49TrbN6KyRnsELLioiI7gQrkpRxL/N3GnbNpCsGCEEM5Of+udianE3GiamyQSSIptmDvR+Q1T7CRi3ejqs=; X-YMail-OSG: MvEJG0MVM1mf.p67zOQ.cWQ4WLUlLczOS5OZp.gaPxdqPWCx6Si3tGHn_yrunSABu1WKf8fWY0xJ6BwQQCi2AAEp1OTM5m_52uhHpZOLF5Z26tNFyKdB77PJHsOgXw-- Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 03:38:25 -0800 (PST) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: RE: late reply to: MULTI-EFFECTS & REVERB To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE71440744F84B4@barq.sailpoint.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <238374.77272.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79042 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 11:38:26 +0000 (UTC) Hey Erdem, Ive been also doing some research about getting a multi fx units since i dont have one at the moment with wild efx,from reading its manual i have the feeling the line6 POD XT pro might be the one that assimilates the delays with analog wild tweaking at best,i dont know but the new units with only dedicated echo delays and reverbs seem to be a bit boring since they mostly lack any type of distortion/overdrive which is essential in creating wildness along with space echos.But hear it better from an expert ive never tried this unit.The dealy section on the boss GT-pro doesn´t seem very exciting either,but it would be great to read about a comparison on the delay section from both. The again you can always simply get this little boutique babies and go bananas: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXJ_VXuSn-8&feature=related this is why i am also going boutique! Luis a small boutique would be the tonecore echopark from line 6 --- Jeff Larson wrote: > > > ________________________________ > From: Erdem Helvacioglu [mailto:erdemhel@tnn.net] > Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 12:17 PM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: late reply to: MULTI-EFFECTS & REVERB > > hey, > > i always need more effects :) just kidding.... > > i was just wondering if there are any interesting > hardware multieffects units on the market besides > the fireworx and eclipse. lately i am much more > interested in boutique analog pedals like zvex > ringtone, fuzz factory etc. i think i will try those > soon. > > as for micropog. i have recently bought in NY. i use > it for pitch shifting the delay lines. for that > effect, it is very good. but for chords it is pretty > useless unfortunately. it has a very organ like > sound which some of you may love or hate. > > thanks a lot and best regards. > > Erdem Helvacioglu > www.erdemhelvacioglu.com > www.myspace.com/erdemhelvacioglu > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > "Altered Realities" album is out on New Albion > Records: > chosen as"Album of the year 2007" by All About Jazz > Magazine > www.newalbion.com/NA131 > www.amazon.com/Helvacioglu-Altered-Realities-Erdem/dp/B000GFLE9A/sr=8-1/qid=1161162264/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-0939524-3125629?ie=UTF8 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: scott hansen > To: > Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 6:59 PM > Subject: OT: late reply to: MULTI-EFFECTS & REVERB > > late reply- > multi-effects-i will have to agree w/ someone who > said: you have an eventide eclipse and lexicon > mpx100 and tc fireworks--AND YOU NEED MORE EFFECTS? > > i thought the eventides where the king of good weird > effects? way out of my price range! my setup > currently: (guitar or keyboard-)zoom g2-digitech > rp150-digitech synthwah-boss dd20-(kustom 12 watt > tube amp or direct to fostex mr8)... > > my cheapo set up allows me to get normal sounds or > anything pretty wacky if i need it. the zoom g2 has > some interesting options w/ the ring mod, and then > it splits the wahs/ring/phaser/tremolo before amp, > and then gives you some other modulations options > (chorus-pitch, etc) after, and there are possibility > of having 3 different delays going (good if you are > only using one effect devise)...so i think its a > good sonic mangler, but i'm not sure if i'd say it > would beat an eventide unit, i mean it does only > cost 100$! > > as for REVERBS: i have minimal experience w/ a lot > of gear, i did like the reverbs on my digitech > dsp256xl-it had a real 80's quality to it, but i > liked that. had a lot of spacey sounds. i also liked > my lexicon mpx100-thought the reverbs were good & > all-UNTIL THE THING DIED ON ME!!!!. didn't like > that. from what i've read, it appears that the folks > who are masters of spacey reverb stuff (Torn, Fripp, > et al) all seem to use either the highend Lexicon > units or Eventide units. > > the funny thing about this thread is i have been > thinking about my reverb options-i like my > multi-effect pedal options, but haven't been loving > the reverb sounds in the units and have debated > getting another rack unit for reverbs. just don't > like the space they take up. and i've also been > missing the option of reversing samples that my old > dod d12 did so easy w/ the 6 sec samples. always > searching i guess.... > s--- > > ________________________________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with > Yahoo! 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Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 2 11:47:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 47D4F3BF08; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 11:47:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=hhhwLdTAAAAA:8 a=6D-Hy7tQAAAA:8 a=1XWaLZrsAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=ROR6KJdoW5c-xdyPY34A:9 a=B6Vhvr6s9a3C9QsO1aMA:7 a=0yvke8yx85psHRprke0_RpKrrsoA:4 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=br5QjLurtgQA:10 a=CLFctTkQT18A:10 a=pQ2a0EFxmsAA:10 a=vgYW2ltDteAA:10 a=TjkNQl1wA8wA:10 a=2uiCRmbCp6AA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp07.embarq.synacor.com smtp.mail=echohead@embarqmail.com; spf=neutral Authentication-Results: smtp07.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=echohead@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received-SPF: neutral (smtp07.embarq.synacor.com: 71.55.25.159 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of embarqmail.com) Message-ID: <000c01c87c5b$4df81030$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> From: "Jeff Duke" To: References: <268537.4969.qm@web38614.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: qualities of reverb Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 06:48:16 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: <6gW8PC.A.idG.nPpyHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79043 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 11:47:51 +0000 (UTC) Harmony Central is always good ; http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Effects/product/Roland/SDE-330+Dimensional+Space+Delay/10/1 http://tinyurl.com/2ohnt8 I just googled it. http://www.google.com/search?q=Roland+SDE+space+delay+&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GWYE http://tinyurl.com/2q2puz peace Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "L.A. Angulo" To: "Loopers Delight" Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 5:45 AM Subject: Re: qualities of reverb > what about the old Roland SDE space delay and korg > proccessors,there were so many different models > anybody has experience with those units or a website > where i can read about them? > Luis > > > > --- Tilmann Dehnhard wrote: > >> yes, i also remember that reverb... >> it was looooooooooooooooooooooooong... >> >> tilmann >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Rick Walker" >> To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" >> >> Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 12:54 PM >> Subject: RE: qualities of reverb >> >> >> > Duncan Goddard mentioned a trick with his trusty >> microverb: >> > >> > Which reminded me: >> > >> > The Alesis Midverb 2 had an infinite reverb in it >> that was just amazing. >> > (patch #32 if memory serves) >> > >> > Eventually I had to upgrade my reverbs (with more >> Alesis and finally >> > Lexicons) >> > but I have never heard an infinite reverb setting >> that was so musical as >> > that >> > old archaic unit. One of my favorite tricks when >> I was first doing lop >> > >> > The rest of the verbs were pretty pathetic, >> unfortuanately and the Alesis >> > gear >> > just doesn't seem to last very long. >> >> > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.3/1306 - Release Date: 3/1/2008 > 5:41 PM > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 2 13:04:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 47E5F3BF0F; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 13:04:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 14:04:12 +0100 Message-Id: <825389397@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 From: music@cool.ms To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Oberheim Echoplex with footpanel at ebay starts with 1 Euro Organization: http://freemail.web.de/ X-Sender: newsic@web.de X-Provags-Id: V01U2FsdGVkX19d53E1b4JJlY3qe/HTBEvronZHyv+wuD7baTnllLHF4zYoG Vn0VNqzYH7CrXJ62I2AbXrzlzzH2lyJMA0wZoba2cTZBZ00taw= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79044 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 13:04:16 +0000 (UTC) Hello, I sell my Oberheim Echoplex Digital Pro incl. footpanel and Manual at ebay starting with 1 Euro: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330216423626 Hope it will find a good new home :-) (Softwareversion is LD3) best regards dh From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 2 13:32:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B44303BF0F; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 13:32:51 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: Terry Riley videos? Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 12:45:38 +0100 Message-ID: <000d01c87c5a$f582f3c0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ach8Wu91UNV5+v2hSNKtuQhvw6bmAg== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79045 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 13:32:51 +0000 (UTC) I'm looking for classic Terry Riley concert videos, anything solo where he plays keyboards. Ideally stuff from the seventies or sixties. There is nothing on Youtube except for tiny excerpts, but with such excerpts existing (e.g. in http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rFgSRi4pMmQ), this could mean that there are longer videos somewhere. -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 2 14:38:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BFC103BEEA; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 14:38:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=7gyH6uBLjgFEZdtDz9uXK5lPoEnwKK/ElBNhAV/Jx/o=; b=O0g0329fx/Q9mifWEMNYEZO1lHT9akEFhgzfhoCLB/G9iD9AMU8MqkaMeZXzy9TcFyg8/CbZ7Vgn8fuXrb0YoKV76mAyB4Vrvl9h1U2XHgopGpxYIN98UDFKkgEuV0bbVtSnqFKqAOC29Na33ZxmJmeQFrq/tf1IItt83reJKmE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=xYM3U8KN8ixnWYQg6HASNjjcgHtUnmjd5SuzFAopOiC1mn3Iyd12oOKcgUJ9VZ0I/nJZt15OX4tz0+nkn2qSkzlptfkHDY2lsWNrOjVQtzJYtmGAftpxVgYFEZrDXnndFVQ7ag8B95i1Gjn/0gz1jekH2wyqZYDCQiC/k5EDcfk= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 06:38:06 -0800 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Using your USA gear in Europe (voltage adapter concerns) In-Reply-To: <524517.89505.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_6119_4304093.1204468686612" References: <40351E65-E387-4CE0-B2BD-59064EBF57F6@zoekeating.com> <524517.89505.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79046 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 14:38:09 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_6119_4304093.1204468686612 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Furman makes a two space unit: http://www.furmansound.com/product.php?div=01&id=AR-PRO It weighs 50lbs, so your rack immediately goes into the overweight baggage category when flying. TH On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 3:09 AM, L.A. Angulo wrote: > I am still amazed that furman and all of this power > conditioner companies dont make single "19" racks with > a voltage selector,or do they? please prove me wrong! > cheers > Luis > > > --- info at zoekeating wrote: > > > Hey Margaret, > > > > I've performed safely many times in Europe AND I've > > blown up my gear, > > so I think I can tell you the worst that will > > happen... > > > > All you need is a "step-down" transformer box. > > - hardwire all your equipment into a power > > conditioner* or > > powerstrip* built into your rack (this is great for > > the US too, > > because then you only ever need one power outlet). > > - plug the powerstrip or powerconditioner into the > > converter box > > - determine how much power you need, 200W? 300W? and > > buy a step-down > > transformer that fits your needs. i just run loopers > > and a foot pedal > > so i use the 100W one, which is more than plenty. i > > have a Euro one > > and a UK one, but you can also just get a UK one and > > put Euro adaptor > > on the end i guess, or vice-versa. > > > > - this is the box i bring with me: VOD 100 step > > down transformer. > > > http://www.voltage-converter-transformers.com/step-down-transformer.html > > > > As for the worst that can happen.... > > > > in a coffee-deprived jet-lagged moment, I > > accidentally plugged my > > rack into 240 with just an adaptor* (NOT a > > transformer...) and > > everything went "poof!". It wasn't as bad as I > > thought it would be, > > yeah there was some blue smoke. I destroyed all my > > wall warts, but > > not the gear. It was the first time I've ever loved > > wall warts. The > > only piece of gear that was truly fried, was my > > FCB1010 pedal, > > because it is the only thing that uses a uni-power > > cable, and has no > > wall wart, so I toasted its innards. > > > > I just replaced all my wall warts, although one > > (D-Tar Soltice > > Preamp) was difficult because it is a pretty > > specific voltage/ > > milliamp combo. I had to use a different Preamp. > > > > > > You're right, digital gear, like a computer, or an > > Electrix Repeater, > > you can use on either voltage, with just an adaptor. > > All my gear is > > digital now, so I don't really need transformer > > anymore, just an > > adaptor, (except the FCB1010, which has a switchable > > fuse, so when I > > go over now I just turn the fuse around and use a > > Euro uni-cable). > > > > notes: > > > > *power conditioner = like a rack-mounted furman > > thing, which is > > really just a glorified powerstrip > > *power strip = to save rack-space i have a > > powerstrip velcro'd into > > the back of my rack, everything plugs into there and > > i never have to > > unplug anything > > * adaptor = this just changes the prong-size to fit > > the electrical > > sockets of the country you're in. it does not > > step-down the power!! > > > > Did I answer your questions or just confuse you!? > > > > Zoe > > > > > > On Mar 1, 2008, at 9:16 AM, margaret noble wrote: > > > > > Long time no post! But here I am :-) I have a gig > > in Vienna and I > > > don't want to blow up my gear. I am wondering if > > anyone has > > > experience using their hardware audio gear in > > countries with > > > different voltage circuits. In particular, > > > > > > I have a Mac laptop purchased in the USA, I know > > it works with a > > > European power supply, all I have to do is put on > > an adapter and it > > > works. > > > > > > But, I also have a Behringer B-Control Rotary > > BCR2000 midi > > > controller. I thought it was USB powered only but > > it needs to also > > > use a power supply. Its says: 100 - 240 V~ 50/60 > > Hz 15 W... > > > > > > Can I just throw an adapter tip on that when I get > > to Vienna (or do > > > I need some type of transformer?) > > > > > > also I have a Mackie 1202-VLZ3 mixer, it has a > > switch in the back > > > to go from 100VAC or 120 VAC or 240 VAC, I am > > assuming that all I > > > have to do is adjust the switch to 240 and put an > > adapter tip on ? > > > > > > BUT I AM SCARED! So, if anyone knows about this > > stuff, I would > > > really appreciate the help! > > > > > > Thanks So Much! > > > > > > Margaret > > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > > > > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > > ------=_Part_6119_4304093.1204468686612 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Furman makes a two space unit:

http://www.furmansound.com/product.php?div=01&id=AR-PRO

It weighs 50lbs, so your rack immediately goes into the overweight baggage category when flying. 

TH

On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 3:09 AM, L.A. Angulo <labaloops@yahoo.com> wrote:
I am still amazed that furman and all of this power
conditioner companies dont make single "19" racks with
a voltage selector,or do they? please prove me wrong!
cheers
Luis


--- info at zoekeating <info@zoekeating.com> wrote:

> Hey Margaret,
>
> I've performed safely many times in Europe AND I've
> blown up my gear,
> so I think I can tell you the worst that will
> happen...
>
> All you need is a "step-down" transformer box.
> - hardwire all your equipment into a power
> conditioner* or
> powerstrip* built into your rack (this is great for
> the US too,
> because then you only ever need one power outlet).
> - plug the powerstrip or powerconditioner into the
> converter box
> - determine how much power you need, 200W? 300W? and
> buy a step-down
> transformer that fits your needs. i just run loopers
> and a foot pedal
> so i use the 100W one, which is more than plenty. i
> have a Euro one
> and a UK one, but you can also just get a UK one and
> put Euro adaptor
> on the end i guess, or vice-versa.
>
> -  this is the box i bring with me: VOD 100 step
> down transformer.
>
http://www.voltage-converter-transformers.com/step-down-transformer.html
>
> As for the worst that can happen....
>
> in a coffee-deprived jet-lagged moment, I
> accidentally plugged my
> rack into 240 with just an adaptor* (NOT a
> transformer...) and
> everything went "poof!". It wasn't as bad as I
> thought it would be,
> yeah there was some blue smoke. I destroyed all my
> wall warts, but
> not the gear. It was the first time I've ever loved
> wall warts. The
> only piece of gear that was truly fried, was my
> FCB1010 pedal,
> because it is the only thing that uses a uni-power
> cable, and has no
> wall wart, so I toasted its innards.
>
> I just replaced all my wall warts, although one
> (D-Tar Soltice
> Preamp) was difficult because it is a pretty
> specific voltage/
> milliamp combo. I had to use a different Preamp.
>
>
> You're right, digital gear, like a computer, or an
> Electrix Repeater,
> you can use on either voltage, with just an adaptor.
> All my gear is
> digital now, so I don't really need transformer
> anymore, just an
> adaptor, (except the FCB1010, which has a switchable
> fuse, so when I
> go over now I just turn the fuse around and use a
> Euro uni-cable).
>
> notes:
>
> *power conditioner = like a rack-mounted furman
> thing, which is
> really just a glorified powerstrip
> *power strip = to save rack-space i have a
> powerstrip velcro'd into
> the back of my rack, everything plugs into there and
> i never have to
> unplug anything
> * adaptor = this just changes the prong-size to fit
> the electrical
> sockets of the country you're in. it does not
> step-down the power!!
>
> Did I answer your questions or just confuse you!?
>
> Zoe
>
>
> On Mar 1, 2008, at 9:16 AM, margaret noble wrote:
>
> > Long time no post!  But here I am :-) I have a gig
> in Vienna and I
> > don't want to blow up my gear. I am wondering if
> anyone has
> > experience using their hardware audio gear in
> countries with
> > different voltage circuits. In particular,
> >
> > I have a Mac laptop purchased in the USA, I know
> it works with a
> > European power supply, all I have to do is put on
> an adapter and it
> > works.
> >
> > But, I also have a Behringer B-Control Rotary
> BCR2000 midi
> > controller. I thought it was USB powered only but
> it needs to also
> > use a power supply. Its says: 100 - 240 V~ 50/60
> Hz 15 W...
> >
> > Can I just throw an adapter tip on that when I get
> to Vienna (or do
> > I need some type of transformer?)
> >
> > also I have a Mackie 1202-VLZ3 mixer, it has a
> switch in the back
> > to go from 100VAC or 120 VAC or 240 VAC, I am
> assuming that all I
> > have to do is adjust the switch to 240 and put an
> adapter tip on ?
> >
> > BUT I AM SCARED! So, if anyone knows about this
> stuff, I would
> > really appreciate the help!
> >
> > Thanks So Much!
> >
> > Margaret
> >
> > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
>
>


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------=_Part_6119_4304093.1204468686612-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 2 15:11:36 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 99BBE3BEDB; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 15:11:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=YcNyOhO1WyyMe0zfUN0m6UiGYc22UaQluqOHPI/eguI=; b=rVHKo37yrM7BlEeMm/tr/0U7a4KpbTsfkoE63kXkmnsfqZdAkTTeuJY61+mktCTigxCOc7wxb9UZM7gS7D41AsTZKEsnfGiqXUw3VaMKH8MFYJ2bL3v4kyehpFSQ1okYVnM9UcXytHIqvksiJ9pkgFaMBcrxYhJ/ln0Os6c0PwI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=HqF3ewA5k7d09u6IR1DbMzcVMy56Fh4kZ66j5d2sJVRTuQWGqe4wKV0Ah39a1AYU0cdYJr8talWkHWUgnGNmY/ljO76WWz99Ded/lY1wmn4vjQALbX3xp7GSeoX/ejb+gmvOIIuQskpnI9ySb+rUqVJ+hUGRkV+n9E9C3GEqb/A= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0803020711h492a59f8paceeab19007f7d3b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 16:11:35 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: loopers-delight Subject: OT: question about how to connect active guitar pickups with batteries MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: <32JDXD.A.NHD.oOsyHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79047 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 15:11:36 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I have two awesome Bill Lawrence active guitar pickups that I bought in -88, and if course I can't find the paper manual to check out how I shall connect them. I think they are humbuckers in a technical sense but they fit into strat type single coil pickup holes. Anyway, the difficult point is that these things need two 9 v batteries in order to function and I'm just wondering if anyone knows right off the top of your head where the plus vs minus pole of the pickups respective both batteries should go? The toggle switch just makes too much noise so I'm thinking about throwing it away and hard-solder the pickups into the parallel position. A minute ago I was getting busy with this but found that at least one of the batteries always gets almost as warm as my soldering iron... -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 2 18:07:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A60AD3BED2; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 18:07:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 594 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sun, 02 Mar 2008 18:07:57 UTC X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cavesofice.org Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 12:56:03 -0500 (EST) From: burnett@pobox.com X-X-Sender: badger@giggles.cavesofice.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: [LOOP] Re: My RPM record In-Reply-To: <20080229074050.r65hwzt54444ks4w@webmail.mhorse.com> Message-ID: References: <20080229074050.r65hwzt54444ks4w@webmail.mhorse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79048 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 18:07:58 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, 29 Feb 2008, highhorse@mhorse.com wrote: > I also did a recording for RPM I'll be sharing soon, and I know Jim Goodin is > working on one. Anybody else crank out an album? http://www.subscapeannex.com/rpmchallenge.html Looping on all five tracks. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 2 18:33:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B59AE3BED3; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 18:33:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sun, 02 Mar 2008 18:33:50 UTC DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=EtOH3a507Jo9VgdwvqaT7Gl094In0aiO53NvfuX0ypiBkArO4U+gZ7rmHCGzQeRI/j804f5xFpQXNnb65ZJCpQn5RDrlgPsnc4RN+FsSEx6LNkPbomIUGoFKa735/1VfTNqmbCDATOmlfsfieWMlB4jsHFvJSU0cxzul9HCG24E=; X-YMail-OSG: 1bmvSSkVM1m_IJVRV0mcIOraVbzV.Lpg2P0E3gpq8eBHfew6siq1QmrulRO4ggghEA-- Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 10:27:10 -0800 (PST) From: stevenguerrero Subject: Re: [LOOP] Re: My RPM record To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <423115.17561.qm@web34503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79049 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 18:33:50 +0000 (UTC) I completed one as well. Unfortunatly I didn't get it in the mail on time. A busy work week and a gig the night before... yadda yadda. I do have one of the unmastered tracks on myspace though. --- burnett@pobox.com wrote: > On Fri, 29 Feb 2008, highhorse@mhorse.com wrote: > > > I also did a recording for RPM I'll be sharing > soon, and I know Jim Goodin is > > working on one. Anybody else crank out an album? > > http://www.subscapeannex.com/rpmchallenge.html > > Looping on all five tracks. > > www.myspace.com/mesqua www.reverbnation.com/stevenguerrero ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 2 18:36:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F3FB63BED5; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 18:36:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=BEf3wu70s/19K1ZeQh8lugoUEylNhNruK9IViFtqkOTmhG9n/cnIYIk2bTVCvEkcgzSvyuatCr3IyedfvdXvMyKlXcUU0l0EXvVpHRuCWJipHk4U5L3H2hK1n2djA8DJLzm8XVW8bU7KWERmnwcoOKFwKiO7M+c2MwKByE/RaGw=; X-YMail-OSG: fd._FeAVM1ky3Ymltl3EtHKWlmNZ7tFsm80_P3pdmViUDdcJDXpzLy.Cz0dNE_tDXyraYaC7IxLCYvGO8mD0WjlvZ78v1O5_b_.zrgOSfLtu8H0_gt.ttll0N_skgQ-- Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 10:36:25 -0800 (PST) From: bill bigrig Subject: reverbs To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <760523.62068.qm@web32706.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79050 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 18:36:26 +0000 (UTC) Howdy, The roland SRV-2000 goes out to 99 seconds and also has infinite, with a foot switch jack. Very velvety, smooyh, warm unit. I've got 4 and have used them for 20 years. They have a"second page" you access on start-up that let's you adjust all sorts of things to affect wall surfaces, etc. Very advanced for a mid 80s unit. Rig ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 2 18:46:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8C5A63BED6; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 18:46:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=1oDdgrt6cl7MPZnMOlZsJ/Ff45WAIfm+IZij5CDFoNnnlQboXDe+jKGQXt6Z8HRTIQPcXTelGeYYO3bAYlG95Zef9pdkggVn0nYuiiMLDKZqexCm/H1dsgV7/NHtjj0pZjLqIhS3NAZFG+Fm48wmDyfmi4kBtsL97yozYn0V2OA=; X-YMail-OSG: wOXM1nUVM1monMx0JJHQeXWjUTz_b4yuxhW0CBLDs._zbNuV83dF87tKPV4i3rgZLj8ZdbaKY6r4NF5hKrFCNgXDyLAYYCv19dZZAcxhgpCkG6jkwyk- Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 10:46:21 -0800 (PST) From: bill bigrig Subject: reverbs To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <372466.87158.qm@web32701.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <9i-u5.A.k7H.-XvyHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79051 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 18:46:22 +0000 (UTC) Howdy, When checking out Roland stuff, don't forget the DEP-5 or 3 multi effects. same reverb as the SRV-2000 I beleive. The 5 has more features of course, but not the 2nd page of the SRV. Still they have that velvety smooth warmth. They came out just after the original Alesis XT which has a nice aggressive sizzle to it, if that's what your after. Very good prices on E-bay. I don't have any experience with the 3000 or 3030 but might have to buy one to see if it's an improvement or not. Coming out at the same time as the Yamaha reverbs, it kind of got lost in the shuffle. Whenever I mix a band using a sound company with Yamaha verbs, any setting I use seems to come out with spring reverb overtones to it. But there sure were a lot of PA companies that had them, they were everywhere. Still no comparison to the Roland 2000 IMHO. Rig Rig ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 2 19:28:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 972003BEDC; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 19:28:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0803020711h492a59f8paceeab19007f7d3b@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0803020711h492a59f8paceeab19007f7d3b@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <6ACBC01A-396B-4788-8AEE-32AB0BC20104@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Toby Graves Subject: Re: OT: question about how to connect active guitar pickups with batteries Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 11:24:38 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79052 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 19:28:04 +0000 (UTC) I think the battery will connect to a circuit board, not directly to the pickup wires. Unless there's an actual circuit in the pickup that amplifies. toby On Mar 2, 2008, at 7:11 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Hi, > > I have two awesome Bill Lawrence active guitar pickups that I bought > in -88, and if course I can't find the paper manual to check out how I > shall connect them. I think they are humbuckers in a technical sense > but they fit into strat type single coil pickup holes. Anyway, the > difficult point is that these things need two 9 v batteries in order > to function and I'm just wondering if anyone knows right off the top > of your head where the plus vs minus pole of the pickups respective > both batteries should go? The toggle switch just makes too much noise > so I'm thinking about throwing it away and hard-solder the pickups > into the parallel position. A minute ago I was getting busy with this > but found that at least one of the batteries always gets almost as > warm as my soldering iron... > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 2 21:09:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 83B883BED3; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 21:09:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=VqFbV9E4tcXVP/DFyg6Lv4VxSeM7f2jmqJvCzdejBQU=; b=hJBnHVzt0671mASZRxYEnAnwo+XnZfyrqCxQPY7HHvHDcoPunJOwkSiRJRDrYAxmbNq2/ICB+jzA371rn/YpPJYCnAcAu3FoBLf1FGgA9KVZmIXxo1j/HH4exGwjBtJoxDfyrpyUKhEhVOjpyxmcJ5olRFT443eoOH/vLYEpge0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=VGL0LgoZxlT/A0y+vATkjoN+H3P7BTOueI8T+V7sAHzNZg3IBnEiJJuerIg7VEB3KJlXuA8ocHXerCKExv/mAIZSco9apKyqw/w+vYrwFbj0N4P+0YVFKfHQCLm98NK82E/EREb1oo4MiVBxFpihd2HCLCW1rWX7yygNwEP8Olk= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0803021309h71794f8fj5846fbd27d5efd46@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 22:09:40 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: question about how to connect active guitar pickups with batteries In-Reply-To: <6ACBC01A-396B-4788-8AEE-32AB0BC20104@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <66f9cc1e0803020711h492a59f8paceeab19007f7d3b@mail.gmail.com> <6ACBC01A-396B-4788-8AEE-32AB0BC20104@mac.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79053 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 21:09:41 +0000 (UTC) These are the 18 volt active Bill Lawerence (neck + vintage bridge model, I guess). If you're saying so they must have such a circuit board built into the pick-ups. But what I'm asking is if someone happens to have experience with these particular pick-ups? If not I will have to start experimenting with batteries and pickups while connected to the amp to hear in what configuration they make sound. They have a very good sound BTW. I played with them yesterday, but then I disconnected the guitar's electronics because I'm such a disaster with the soldering gear so the switch (or whatever it was) made crackling noises that destroyed the "glass distinct" string attack of those pickups. per On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 8:24 PM, Toby Graves wrote: > I think the battery will connect to a circuit board, not directly to > the pickup wires. Unless there's an actual circuit in the pickup > that amplifies. > > > toby > > > > > On Mar 2, 2008, at 7:11 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I have two awesome Bill Lawrence active guitar pickups that I bought > > in -88, and if course I can't find the paper manual to check out how I > > shall connect them. I think they are humbuckers in a technical sense > > but they fit into strat type single coil pickup holes. Anyway, the > > difficult point is that these things need two 9 v batteries in order > > to function and I'm just wondering if anyone knows right off the top > > of your head where the plus vs minus pole of the pickups respective > > both batteries should go? The toggle switch just makes too much noise > > so I'm thinking about throwing it away and hard-solder the pickups > > into the parallel position. A minute ago I was getting busy with this > > but found that at least one of the batteries always gets almost as > > warm as my soldering iron... > > > > -- > > Greetings from Sweden > > > > Per Boysen > > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > > www.looproom.com (international) > > > > -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 2 21:15:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D2D6D3BEE0; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 21:15:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=aC6E/gouKBKBUUa6Y4e1Q8adlwLdQdqpkJZ8qQZp2Rk=; b=O9GNJLUmU7KCeQPnImOwPVkJ/O6wlm0NrfRiTe6WhPcXFwwsjIVShjcYFVme0xgcwmbQlc1x7XV2RjqvheluEczE34WGLcP5VgoAcAXrG0gV0BsAVHoAQDolJNRlBpP7F04Gt1IOcGxp4JTBnFegT4H7mRVl/mNxX7Mekt56278= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=KJCoqrZdDrlhJslGgLQPBnvgt6n9dXmapal/mQ+U3lrhoIJeRwM3Mzp7342VD4eXzGA69Q+vUbewdNAsJwgDUuw6l/obGibJTMkjz8LQ4Q9Msnt6HqqfElDxOD08OiTPJHxyuZ2ZQwodkYtxSmCHT7bNhuoQZq7pazwkneNd66M= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 13:15:26 -0800 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: question about how to connect active guitar pickups with batteries In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0803021309h71794f8fj5846fbd27d5efd46@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_7173_33127087.1204492526483" References: <66f9cc1e0803020711h492a59f8paceeab19007f7d3b@mail.gmail.com> <6ACBC01A-396B-4788-8AEE-32AB0BC20104@mac.com> <66f9cc1e0803021309h71794f8fj5846fbd27d5efd46@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79054 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 21:15:27 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_7173_33127087.1204492526483 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Why not just email BL tomorrow? They're still in business. On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 1:09 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > These are the 18 volt active Bill Lawerence (neck + vintage bridge > model, I guess). If you're saying so they must have such a circuit > board built into the pick-ups. But what I'm asking is if someone > happens to have experience with these particular pick-ups? If not I > will have to start experimenting with batteries and pickups while > connected to the amp to hear in what configuration they make sound. > > > ------=_Part_7173_33127087.1204492526483 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Why not just email BL tomorrow?  They're still in business.

On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 1:09 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
These are the 18 volt active Bill Lawerence (neck + vintage bridge
model, I guess). If you're saying so they must have such a circuit
board built into the pick-ups. But what I'm asking is if someone
happens to have experience with these particular pick-ups? If not I
will have to start experimenting with batteries and pickups while
connected to the amp to hear in what configuration they make sound.



------=_Part_7173_33127087.1204492526483-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 2 21:24:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9153D3BED9; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 21:24:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 17716465/mk-outboundfilter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/F2S/$NILDRAM-ACCEPTED/nildram-customers/62.3.238.4 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 62.3.238.4 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: nick@12testing.net X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgAAAISpykc+A+4E/2dsb2JhbAAIqnc X-IP-Direction: IN From: "nick@12testing.net" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 21:24:02 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: chain tape latest Reply-to: nick@12testing.net Message-ID: <47CB1AF2.13864.2A42C38@nick.12testing.net> Priority: normal In-reply-to: References: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79055 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 21:24:08 +0000 (UTC) My latest CT projects birds/birds&men are available for download or review... http://ct-collective.com/index.cfm?page=music From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Mar 2 22:05:34 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 313BC3BEDD; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 22:05:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=sGzP9yAo9lIswQLTBAkJ5fKWxAL/xeehGHsn5D64an0=; b=Z8WmEgMEbJ0KPJ3YJavClEun2PqEZjV6zBzdLqrpr55sytVqMcZUy5+QvhrEFn0dOIP/0R0If7+ont1FjuU0DgAlDyye27N2MLN6qWmc0co/enOlVrJ8zNJNluF+CUEjBK8aE5QmSQEKwLCuJX/OKXTmakz42s9I9NPbNwD86iQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=SGOuCCnQpTwNkKjriRpQ8lw0a9Wk4Il0b7siCo/nLJR5XuINrI8m6pZTPZPkl3FUJFdRrq/jnTkO20/8zZS3H4EWaxXM+6paG7/+0vVBhN23aJN6MstBhxHItqOCmjVDqYEfvxFWLnFOlu1fvrsylIQgt920YQVe+OXeCwSryMU= Message-ID: Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 17:05:31 -0500 From: "Tony K" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: question about how to connect active guitar pickups with batteries In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <66f9cc1e0803020711h492a59f8paceeab19007f7d3b@mail.gmail.com> <6ACBC01A-396B-4788-8AEE-32AB0BC20104@mac.com> <66f9cc1e0803021309h71794f8fj5846fbd27d5efd46@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79056 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 22:05:33 +0000 (UTC) > Why not just email BL tomorrow? They're still in business. I agree, Bill is a really nice guy. He used to have his shop just down the street from where I worked. I got to chat with him once. A bit hard of hearing these days. :) http://www.billlawrence.com/ becky@billlawrence.com On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Travis Hartnett wrote: > Why not just email BL tomorrow? They're still in business. > > > > On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 1:09 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > > These are the 18 volt active Bill Lawerence (neck + vintage bridge > > model, I guess). If you're saying so they must have such a circuit > > board built into the pick-ups. But what I'm asking is if someone > > happens to have experience with these particular pick-ups? If not I > > will have to start experimenting with batteries and pickups while > > connected to the amp to hear in what configuration they make sound. > > > > > > > > -- -==-=-=- Tony From azizs_yusuf1@walla.com Sun Mar 2 22:54:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 13425 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sun, 02 Mar 2008 22:54:46 UTC Received: from omail109.walla.co.il (omail109.walla.co.il [192.118.71.109]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E9333BED2 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 22:54:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omail109.walla.co.il (omail109.walla.co.il [127.0.0.1]) by omail109.walla.co.il (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id m22JAQbB030586; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 21:10:26 +0200 Received: (from informix@localhost) by omail109.walla.co.il (8.13.5/8.13.1/Submit) id m22JAPYk030516; Sun, 2 Mar 2008 21:10:25 +0200 Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 21:10:25 +0200 Received: from ([196.28.250.186]) by 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looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <47CBB0EC.7020504@mhorse.com> Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 02:03:56 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14 (Windows/20071210) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: My RPM record, tooooo References: <423115.17561.qm@web34503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <423115.17561.qm@web34503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79057 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 08:04:08 +0000 (UTC) It's awesome how many took part in the RPM thing - Neil, Jim, Doug, Dennis, Tim, Steve, Steven...is that everyone? Bueller? I finally have my own record on the Net in a convenient place, dig it here (the whole thing can be downloaded in a zip). http://www.swanwelder.com/projects/rentintwain.htm It's called "Rentintwain", my first solo looping recording. Acoustic guitar, and all loops done live with cassettes, a Tascam four-track with homemade loop tapes and a microcassette Panasonic dictating machine, my standard setup for quite some time now. I started with a pretty firm concept (entrapment, and trepanation as a metaphor), then improvised a bunch of stuff and whittled it down. In the end, it turned out to be a much noisier and less tonal project when compared to the looping I've done with Chinapainting...a bit hard on the ears, sometimes, but I'm very happy with it. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 3 14:40:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A17D73BED3; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 14:40:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; bh=jlunBfnTkauZEG3S5VQVXvqi91t8BbMHTebSkh3Nr9o=; b=XpK0icnDNu/V6IqGNRXNQZuFI+mayUH8qGrLVFPItMQI7UzetLBzeybpARJkqNRyT70RGjbqKJ6ZIj8cC+ifMpkJAgBctMr2bseKExb0hDcEr2s1iiJDVygDF//FXxFWZdBv/yB6FivbfVIDBrr942eyzMRay6BbG3LjG3sFQPY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=ChG7VU/2s8Cj4D0xwwtLaRT9geh25nwGYyhMpf75MMMvUSIsCHyy+CwSh7UnkfVT4eIePXty0u4+j43vFjsHJwOgd0C4slt4Htxglrwf57OZWaDPgTrFb5yRqQE+RWgsKs4o9CBwUAI6pAvzGbcXJJS4UgUNfNJbvbj9Gtb5fHE= Message-ID: Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 09:40:45 -0500 From: "Tony K" To: loopers-delight Subject: Adrian loops MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79058 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 14:40:46 +0000 (UTC) http://line6.com/spiderjam/movies.html -- -==-=-=- Tony From clark0becca@aol.com Mon Mar 3 17:07:53 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 737 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Mon, 03 Mar 2008 17:07:53 UTC Received: from fyisvr1.freshyouth.org (67.111.174.226.ptr.us.xo.net [67.111.174.226]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D2AA3BEC2; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 17:07:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from User ([217.118.0.121]) by fyisvr1.freshyouth.org with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 3 Mar 2008 11:52:24 -0500 Reply-To: From: "Rebecca Clarkson" Subject: Hope and Trust Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 17.55.23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Mar 2008 16:52:24.0703 (UTC) FILETIME=[F4BD58F0:01C87D4E] To: undisclosed-recipients:; I am 28 Female,Rebecca Clarkson (5'6) from Ohio, United States of America. I lived with my Ex-Boyfriend before I had a problem as a result of his misbehavior. I've been having a problem with my Dad who i live with but right now due to our differences, i have left the United States for africa my Mom is from United Kingdom but she`s late now. MY Dad works with Oil Contractors in UK and Italy include some parts of the Asian and American. I work with my father as his personal auditor and we move around for his contracts whereever he is awarded. My first boy friend, Victor Glashow, absconded with my dad's money which was kept with me after a completion of a contract in EAST london,UK. When my boy friend got absconded with the undisclosed sum of USdollars, this brought the first brokeup between me and my dad, cos he thought, we have the deal together, but not knowing that I'm an innocent about this. So my dad has been harsh and tough against me about this. Then when I perceived all his behaviors towards me and the bad acts of his newly gotten wife, i decided to leave ohio to meet a friend in London in Uk whom have meet during our stay there for a contract with N.P.C. I left because my dad have been treating me bad and stopped me from working with him even having any access to his assets, and i felt no where to go than to leave the states to search for an investment here. Now, for you to know im not in the states now, i left my personal room in my dad's house. My hope of getting an investment here with the money is to no avail or success. Now, I'm in need of your help, have gotten the enuogh money to run myself when I get to USA, i want to come over to your end and stay with you for main time, I don't want to live here anymore, you know I'm a foreigner here and it is absolutely danger for me here, so that is why i need your gesture assistance. How i want you to help me? I have some money, which I've gotten from an over invoiced Contract renumeration executed by my dad with some contractors, so I have taken up the money from the contractors, but I'm hiding up from the girl I stayed with here in barking, because i might got setup if they know i have such huge amount of money (5,500,000.00$), so for me to be more safe and secure, I put this money in a box and got it locked up with a security code known to me only, and I deposited the box with some of my travelling luggages with a Security and Insurance Company who render private diplomatic delivery service and i told them that the two boxes are my travelling luggage, which I want to send forth to U.S.A because i'm returning home, then i paid them up their custody and security fee. So, I want the box sent to you while i catch up with you as soon as it is been delivered to you while I pay you up your Rent charge and a reasonable amount for compensation, only 30% of the money in the box to you. Every arrangement for the delivery is kinda perfect, I have obtained customs papers for private freight and there are seals on the box showing that it is a private delivery and check performed, it is free from customs checks, it will be delivered at your door step by the diplomats of the security company, you do not need to burn out to receive it. And the boxes have security codes lock known to me only, only me can open the boxes, except if I tell anyone the Code, so the Boxes cannot be opened on the Way of delivery to you. I couldn't stay with the boxes in the lodge because it is not safe for me to do so, then I have to put it in a Security and Insurance Company for safety. Therefore, I want you to contact me as soon as possible, so that you can make the Clearance from the Security Company as the Recipient of my Boxes. And once the box gets, I will be there with you, then we can open the box together or i will tell you the code to open it, so that you can arrange everything properly before my arrival. Like I said, I will fulfil my 30% promise of the money to you for your assistance and we can meet for a better living. And I hope you are for real about Helping ..... I will appreciate your trust towards this and hoping to hear from you and to meet you inperson. Please, kindly make your response to my email which you know so that i can read your message easily and we can proceed from there. Thanks Rebecca From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 3 17:27:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9ACE03BECF; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 17:27:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_c166cd48-65a1-4c45-9e8d-63f888500688_" X-Originating-IP: [76.105.181.144] From: Jeremy devros To: Subject: RE: OT: Interesting research on brain activities of improvisers Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 09:26:12 -0800 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0803010344l56d011b3k850d644ebcdbfe0f@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0803010344l56d011b3k850d644ebcdbfe0f@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Mar 2008 17:26:13.0459 (UTC) FILETIME=[ADF8F230:01C87D53] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79059 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 17:27:43 +0000 (UTC) --_c166cd48-65a1-4c45-9e8d-63f888500688_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Interesting! I am not relaxed and focused at this exact moment however, I r= ecall bringing this up w/ the abbot at the zen center where I practice--How= zazen and Buddhist mindfulness felt like the presence one feels when you t= ravel to those wonderfully deep places of improvisation and creation.=20 Peace from Portland, J.D.Devros deafrose58 Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 12:44:27 +0100 From: perboysen@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: OT: Interesting research on brain activities of improvisers I found this rather interesting:=20 Scientists funded by the National Institute on Deafness and Other Communica= tion Disorders (NIDCD) have found that, when jazz musicians are engaged in = the highly creative and spontaneous activity known as improvisation, a larg= e region of the brain involved in monitoring one's performance is shut down= , while a small region involved in organizing self-initiated thoughts and b= ehaviors is highly activated. Link to read more: http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/02/29/the-real-ai-jaz= z-factor-think-different/=20 I've always also filed meditation into the same type of brain activities. P= articularly disciplines where you practice to stay relaxed and focused at t= he same time - without falling asleep, lose concentration or wander astray = along associational thoughts. But this article doesn't mention meditation.= =20 --=20 Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) _________________________________________________________________ Helping your favorite cause is as easy as instant messaging.=A0You IM, we g= ive. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=3Dtext_hotmail_join= --_c166cd48-65a1-4c45-9e8d-63f888500688_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Interesting! I am not relaxed and focused at this exact moment however, I r= ecall bringing this up w/ the abbot at the zen center where I practice--How= zazen and Buddhist mindfulness felt like the presence one feels when you t= ravel to those wonderfully deep places of improvisation and creation.
P= eace from Portland,
J.D.Devros
deafrose58


Date= : Sat, 1 Mar 2008 12:44:27 +0100
From: perboysen@gmail.com
To: Looper= s-Delight@loopers-delight.com
Subject: OT: Interesting research on brain= activities of improvisers

I found this rather interesting: 
Scien= tists funded by the National Institute on Deafness and Other Communication = Disorders (NIDCD) have found that, when jazz musicians are engaged in the h= ighly creative and spontaneous activity known as improvisation, a large reg= ion of the brain involved in monitoring one's performance is shut down, whi= le a small region involved in organizing self-initiated thoughts and behavi= ors is highly activated.

Link to read more= : 
http://createdigital= music.com/2008/02/29/the-real-ai-jazz-factor-think-different/ 

I've always also = filed meditation into the same type of brain activities. Particularly disci= plines where you practice to stay relaxed and focused at the same time - wi= thout falling asleep, lose concentration or wander astray along association= al thoughts. But this article doesn't mention meditation. 

--
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (intern= ational)



Helping your favorite cause is as easy as instant = messaging.=A0You IM, we give. Learn more. = --_c166cd48-65a1-4c45-9e8d-63f888500688_-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 3 19:49:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3A7663BECF; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 19:49:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 4086 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Mon, 03 Mar 2008 19:49:57 UTC Message-ID: <29166.167.83.10.20.1204569702.squirrel@www.michaelplishka.com> In-Reply-To: References: <66f9cc1e0803010344l56d011b3k850d644ebcdbfe0f@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 13:41:42 -0500 (EST) Subject: RE: OT: Interesting research on brain activities of improvisers From: mike@michaelplishka.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.9a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server316.tchmachines.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - loopers-delight.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - michaelplishka.com Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79060 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 19:49:58 +0000 (UTC) Cool! Thanks Per! I wonder if task that require pinpoint precision movement "on the fly", such as fencing, or luging, etc. where one gets into a zone, light up the same areas as improvising in music...interesting indeed... Plish > > Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 12:44:27 +0100 > From: perboysen@gmail.com > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: OT: Interesting research on brain activities of improvisers > > I found this rather interesting: > > > Scientists funded by the National Institute on Deafness and Other > Communication Disorders (NIDCD) have found that, when jazz musicians are > engaged in the highly creative and spontaneous activity known as > improvisation, a large region of the brain involved in monitoring one's > performance is shut down, while a small region involved in organizing > self-initiated thoughts and behaviors is highly activated. > Link to read more: > http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/02/29/the-real-ai-jazz-factor-think-different/ > I've always also filed meditation into the same type of brain activities. > Particularly disciplines where you practice to stay relaxed and focused at > the same time - without falling asleep, lose concentration or wander > astray along associational thoughts. But this article doesn't mention > meditation. > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Helping your favorite cause is as easy as instant messaging. You IM, we > give. > http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=text_hotmail_join From b_walter22@yahoo.fr Mon Mar 3 20:46:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2411 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Mon, 03 Mar 2008 20:46:58 UTC Received: from hermes.techistry.com (hermes.techistry.com [204.213.247.48]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B857C3BEC1 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 20:46:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hermes.techistry.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D01F6B23BC9; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 15:06:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from wbs-41-208-238-234.wbs.co.za (wbs-41-208-238-234.wbs.co.za [41.208.238.234]) by webmail.techistry.com (Horde) with HTTP for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 15:05:59 -0500 Message-ID: <20080303150559.t2oh0dpz5cttcsos@webmail.techistry.com> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 15:05:59 -0500 From: "Mr. Walter Brown" Reply-To: b.walter22@yahoo.fr To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Subject: HSBC BANK MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.0.1) Good day, I am Walter Brown, staff of International Private Banking at HSBC Bank. I a= m contacting you concerning a deceased customer and an investment he placed u= nder our banks management few years ago. I would respectfully request that you k= eep the contents of this mail confidential and respect the integrity of the information you come by as a result of this mail. I contacted you independently of our investigation and no one is informed o= f this communication. I would like to intimate you with certain facts that I believe would be of interest to you. In 2001, the subject matter came to ou= r bank to engage in business discussions with our private banking division. H= e informed us that he had a financial portfolio of Forty Eight Million Three Hundred And Fifty Thousand United States Dollars ($48,350,000.00 USD) ,whi= ch he wished to have us turn over(invest) on his behalf. I was the officer assigned to his case, I was made numerous suggestions in line with my dutie= s as the de-facto chief operations officer of the private banking sector, especi= ally given the volume of funds he wished to put into our bank. We met on numero= us occasions prior to any investments being placed. I encouraged him to consid= er various growth funds with prime ratings. The favored route in my advise to customers is to start by assessing data on 6000 traditional stocks and bond managers and 2000 managers of alternative investments. Based on my advice, = We spun the money around various opportunities and made attractive margins for= our first months of operation, the accrued profit and interest stood at this p= oint at over ten million United States Dollars, this margin was not the full potential of the fund but he desired low risk guaranteed returns on investments. In mid 2002, he asked that the money be liquidated because he needed to mak= e an urgent investment requiring cash payments in here in the United Kingdom. He directed that I liquidate the funds and deposit it with a security firm her= e in London. I informed him that HSBC would have to make special arrangements to have this done and in order not to circumvent due process, the bank would h= ave to make a 9.5 % deduction from the funds to cater for banking and statutory charges. He complained about the charges but later came around when I expla= ined to him the complexities of the task he was asking of us. Cash movement acro= ss boarders has become especially strict since the incidents of 9/11. I conta= cted my affiliate in here in London and made the funds available to the security firm. I undertook all the processes and made sure I followed his precise instructions to the letter and had the funds deposited at the London based security consultancy firm, Corporate Securities Co. Corporate Securities Co= is a specialist private firm that accepts deposits from high net worth individuals and blue chip corporations that handle valuable products or undertake transactions that need immediate access to cash. This small and highly private organization is familiar especially to the highly placed and well-connected organizations. In line with Instructions, the money was deposited with Corporate Securities Co. The deceased told me he wanted the money there in anticipation of his arrival from Norway later that week. Th= is was the last communication we had, this transpired around 25th June 2002. I= n June last year, we got a call from Corporate Securities Co informing us tha= t the activity of that particular portfolio. This was an astounding position = as far as I was concerned, given the fact that I managed the private banking sector I was the only one who knew about the deposit at Corporate Securitie= s Co, and I could not understand why the deceased had not come forward to cla= im his deposit. I made futile efforts to locate the deceased. I immediately pa= ssed the task of locating him to the internal investigations department of HSBC. Four days later, information started to trickle in, apparently our client w= as dead. A person who suited his description was declared dead of a heart atta= ck in Cannes, South of France. We were soon enough able to identify the body and cause of death was confir= med. The bank immediately launched an investigation into possible surviving next= of kin to alert about the situation and also to come forward to claim his esta= te. If you are familiar with private banking affairs, those who patronize our services usually prefer anonymity, but also some levels of detachment from conventional processes. In his bio-data form, he listed no next of kin. In = the field of private banking opening an account with us means no one will know = of its existence, accounts are rarely held under a name; depositors use number= s and codes to make the accounts anonymous. This bank also gives the choice t= o depositors of having their mail sent to them or held at the bank itself, ensuring that there are no traces of the account and as I said, rarely do t= hey nominate next of kin. Private banking clients apart from not nominating next of kin also usually = in most cases leave wills in our care, in this case; the deceased died without= a testament .In line with our internal processes for account holders who have passed away, we instituted our own Investigations in good faith to determin= e who should have right to claim the estate. This investigation has for the p= ast months been unfruitful. We have scanned every continent and used our privat= e investigation affiliate companies to get to the root of the problem. It is = this investigation that resulted in my being furnished with your details as a possible relative of the deceased. My official capacity dictates that I am = the only party to supervise the investigation and the only party to receive the results of the investigation. What this means, you being the last batch of names we have considered, is that our dear late fellow died with no known o= r identifiable family member. This leaves me as the only person with the full picture of what the prevailing situation is in relation to the deposit and = the late beneficiary of the deposit. According to practice, Corporate Securities Co will by the end of this fina= ncial year broadcast a request for statements of claim to HSBC, failing to receiv= e viable claims they will most probably revert the deposit back to HSBC. This will result in the money entering the HSBC accounting system and the portfo= lio will be out of my hands and out of the private banking division. This will = not happen if I have my way. What I wish to relate to you will smack of unethic= al practice but I want you to understand something. It is only an outsider to = the banking world who finds the internal politics of the banking world aberrational. The world of private banking especially is fraught with huge rewards for th= ose who occupy certain offices and oversee certain portfolios. You should have begun by now to put together the general direction of what I propose. I al= one have the deposit details and they will release the deposit to no one unless= I instruct them to do so. I alone know of the existence of this deposit for a= s far as HSBC is concerned, the transaction with our late customer concluded = when I sent the funds to corporate securities, all outstanding interactions in relation to the file are just customer services and due process. Corporate Securities Co has no single idea of what the history or nature of the depos= it. They are simply awaiting; instructions to release the deposit to any party = that comes forward. This is the situation. This bank has spent great amounts of money trying to track this mans family; they have investigated for months a= nd have found no family. The investigation has come to an end. My proposal; yo= u share similar details to the late fellow; I am prepared to place you in a position to instruct Corporate Securities Co to release the deposit to you = as the closest surviving relation. Upon receipt of the deposit, I am prepared = to share the money with you in half. That is: I will simply nominate you as th= e next of kin and have them release the deposit to you. We share the proceeds 50/50.I would have gone ahead to ask the funds be released to me, but that would have drawn a straight line to me and my involvement in claiming the deposit. I assure you that I could have the deposit released to you within = a few days. I will simply inform the bank of the final closing of the file relating to the deceased I will then officially communicate with Corporate Securities Co and instruct them to release the deposit to you. With these t= wo things: all is done. The alternative would be for us to have Corporate Securities Co direct the funds to another bank with you as account holder. = This way there will be no need for you to think of receiving the money from Corporate Securities Co. We can fine-tune this based on our interactions. I= am aware of the consequences of this proposal. I ask that if you find no inter= est in this project that you should discard this mail. I ask that you do not be vindictive and destructive. If my offer is of no appeal to you, delete this message and forget I ever contacted you. Do not destroy my career because y= ou do not approve of my proposal. You may not know this but people like myself who have made tidy sums out of comparable situations run the whole private banking sector. I am not a crim= inal and what I do, I do not find against good conscience, this may be hard for = you to understand, but the dynamics of my industry dictates that I make this mo= ve. Such opportunities only come ones' way once in a lifetime. I cannot let thi= s chance pass me by, for once I find myself in total control of my destiny. T= hese chances wont pass me by. I ask that you do not destroy my chance, if you wi= ll not work with me let me know and let me move on with my life but do not des= troy me. I am a family man and this is an opportunity to provide them with new opportunities. There is a reward for this project and it is a task well wor= th undertaking. I have evaluated the risks and the only risk I have here is fr= om you refusing to work with me and alerting my bank. I am the only one who kn= ows of this situation, good fortune has blessed you with a name that has plante= d you into the center of relevance in my life. Let share the blessing. If you find yourself able to work with me, contact me through this same email acco= unt. If you give me positive signals, I will initiate this process towards a conclusion. I wish to inform you that should you contact me via official channels; I will deny knowing you and about this project. I repeat, I do no= t want you contacting me through my official phone lines nor do I wouldn=92t = you contacting me through my official email account. Contact me only through th= e numbers I will provide for you and also through this email address. I do no= t want any direct link between you and me. My official lines are not secure l= ines as they are periodically monitored to assess our level of customer care in = line with our Total Quality Management Policy. Please observe this instruction religiously. Please, again, note I am a fam= ily man, I have a wife and children. I send you this mail not without a measure= of fear as to what the consequences, but I know within me that nothing venture= d is nothing gained and that success and riches never come easy or on a platter = of gold. This is the one truth I have learnt from my private banking clients. = Do not betray my confidence. If we can be of one accord, we should plan a meeting, soon. I await your response. Walter Brown. ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 3 21:48:52 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 365B63BECF; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 21:48:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=nf1kU6zb8pVOALMFj8Da3OCvtnsC9wZEdBIWWh6LPSr+HZMBLjMvjRqHvQtKCTqw3CuY4E7ZaoTBgDDQBdyrCawFpmsM0q86UfBowoDDLdWVF2a+zLjrVbF2I7JX2JQsHQT8JnKTRy+caFVeJBYduRVGF4mYV02u//T1eMT6PZU=; X-YMail-OSG: .czQ5LEVM1msu_.KgIFMeW3rbhsXA8hpJNrYXUWaBqFDpsRbdmk0wvwpDVBwq8lX8OOtRTL6PfkCiOU38IoTEYqF4lJl94KJZpCNpzVnV106MMKbuUU- Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 13:48:50 -0800 (PST) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: Using your USA gear in Europe (voltage adapter concerns) To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <873938.51283.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79061 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 21:48:52 +0000 (UTC) Thanx Travis but you know i am a real wimp, this is more for real men like this one http://pairwise.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/arnold-schwarzenegger-big.jpg Luis wrote: > Furman makes a two space unit: > > http://www.furmansound.com/product.php?div=01&id=AR-PRO > > It weighs 50lbs, so your rack immediately goes into > the overweight baggage > category when flying. > > TH > > On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 3:09 AM, L.A. Angulo > wrote: > > > I am still amazed that furman and all of this > power > > conditioner companies dont make single "19" racks > with > > a voltage selector,or do they? please prove me > wrong! > > cheers > > Luis > > > > > > --- info at zoekeating > wrote: > > > > > Hey Margaret, > > > > > > I've performed safely many times in Europe AND > I've > > > blown up my gear, > > > so I think I can tell you the worst that will > > > happen... > > > > > > All you need is a "step-down" transformer box. > > > - hardwire all your equipment into a power > > > conditioner* or > > > powerstrip* built into your rack (this is great > for > > > the US too, > > > because then you only ever need one power > outlet). > > > - plug the powerstrip or powerconditioner into > the > > > converter box > > > - determine how much power you need, 200W? 300W? > and > > > buy a step-down > > > transformer that fits your needs. i just run > loopers > > > and a foot pedal > > > so i use the 100W one, which is more than > plenty. i > > > have a Euro one > > > and a UK one, but you can also just get a UK one > and > > > put Euro adaptor > > > on the end i guess, or vice-versa. > > > > > > - this is the box i bring with me: VOD 100 step > > > down transformer. > > > > > > http://www.voltage-converter-transformers.com/step-down-transformer.html > > > > > > As for the worst that can happen.... > > > > > > in a coffee-deprived jet-lagged moment, I > > > accidentally plugged my > > > rack into 240 with just an adaptor* (NOT a > > > transformer...) and > > > everything went "poof!". It wasn't as bad as I > > > thought it would be, > > > yeah there was some blue smoke. I destroyed all > my > > > wall warts, but > > > not the gear. It was the first time I've ever > loved > > > wall warts. The > > > only piece of gear that was truly fried, was my > > > FCB1010 pedal, > > > because it is the only thing that uses a > uni-power > > > cable, and has no > > > wall wart, so I toasted its innards. > > > > > > I just replaced all my wall warts, although one > > > (D-Tar Soltice > > > Preamp) was difficult because it is a pretty > > > specific voltage/ > > > milliamp combo. I had to use a different Preamp. > > > > > > > > > You're right, digital gear, like a computer, or > an > > > Electrix Repeater, > > > you can use on either voltage, with just an > adaptor. > > > All my gear is > > > digital now, so I don't really need transformer > > > anymore, just an > > > adaptor, (except the FCB1010, which has a > switchable > > > fuse, so when I > > > go over now I just turn the fuse around and use > a > > > Euro uni-cable). > > > > > > notes: > > > > > > *power conditioner = like a rack-mounted furman > > > thing, which is > > > really just a glorified powerstrip > > > *power strip = to save rack-space i have a > > > powerstrip velcro'd into > > > the back of my rack, everything plugs into there > and > > > i never have to > > > unplug anything > > > * adaptor = this just changes the prong-size to > fit > > > the electrical > > > sockets of the country you're in. it does not > > > step-down the power!! > > > > > > Did I answer your questions or just confuse > you!? > > > > > > Zoe > > > > > > > > > On Mar 1, 2008, at 9:16 AM, margaret noble > wrote: > > > > > > > Long time no post! But here I am :-) I have a > gig > > > in Vienna and I > > > > don't want to blow up my gear. I am wondering > if > > > anyone has > > > > experience using their hardware audio gear in > > > countries with > > > > different voltage circuits. In particular, > > > > > > > > I have a Mac laptop purchased in the USA, I > know > > > it works with a > > > > European power supply, all I have to do is put > on > > > an adapter and it > > > > works. > > > > > > > > But, I also have a Behringer B-Control Rotary > > > BCR2000 midi > > > > controller. I thought it was USB powered only > but > > > it needs to also > > > > use a power supply. Its says: 100 - 240 V~ > 50/60 > > > Hz 15 W... > > > > > > > > Can I just throw an adapter tip on that when I > get > > > to Vienna (or do > > > > I need some type of transformer?) > > > > > > > > also I have a Mackie 1202-VLZ3 mixer, it has a > > > switch in the back > > > > to go from 100VAC or 120 VAC or 240 VAC, I am > > > assuming that all I > > > > have to do is adjust the switch to 240 and put > an > > > adapter tip on ? > > > > > > > > BUT I AM SCARED! So, if anyone knows about > this > > > stuff, I would > > > > really appreciate the help! > > > > > > > > Thanks So Much! > > > > > > > > Margaret > > > > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. > > > > > > > > > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > > Looking for last minute shopping deals? > > Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. > > > http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping > > > > > === message truncated === www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 3 21:54:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 80D3F3BED0; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 21:54:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 16:51:25 -0500 From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Re: OT: Interesting research on brain activities of improvisers In-reply-to: <66f9cc1e0803010344l56d011b3k850d644ebcdbfe0f@mail.gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed References: <66f9cc1e0803010344l56d011b3k850d644ebcdbfe0f@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79062 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 21:54:46 +0000 (UTC) Thanks for the great link. At 12:44 PM +0100 3/1/08, Per Boysen wrote: >I found this rather interesting: > >Scientists funded by the National Institute on Deafness and Other >Communication Disorders (NIDCD) have found that, when jazz musicians >are engaged in the highly creative and spontaneous activity known as >improvisation, a large region of the brain involved in monitoring >one's performance is shut down, while a small region involved in >organizing self-initiated thoughts and behaviors is highly activated. > > >Link to read more: >http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/02/29/the-real-ai-jazz-factor-think-different/ > >I've always also filed meditation into the same type of brain >activities. Particularly disciplines where you practice to stay >relaxed and focused at the same time - without falling asleep, lose >concentration or wander astray along associational thoughts. But >this article doesn't mention meditation. > >-- >Greetings from Sweden > >Per Boysen >www.boysen.se (Swedish) >www.looproom.com (international) -- "The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in the mind at the same time, and still retain the ability to function." F. Scott Fitzgerald Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer and Digital Photographer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 3 22:23:34 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7293A3BED0; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 22:23:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=O6HM0JOB3wOYcIiULcNwBjLce6j8Hq6QYRk18HZu0++l3xvfXEFd1OQvsTAuGZa4As6FyzDU+o81qS1VUmSlwrPdlp5S1/GXyYiAj0+MmsltCk/zMs0/q/hdC59I02CXnwTQpOZ9FbMGi+6vPIa77AVJeo6Qy49eKA0vD6UAJfE=; X-YMail-OSG: ITMSUtoVM1kv9U6JjG_J90asnialJhwww4luK6qLEXgF6FvAk7mBWXjSleyTN0T32pLd8wbb6ND.YRd1qk2Jg2fVxw-- Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 14:23:33 -0800 (PST) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: qualities of reverb To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <000c01c87c5b$4df81030$0202a8c0@YOUR08D5303051> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <95909.72459.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79063 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 22:23:34 +0000 (UTC) Thanx jeff,i was specially interested in the Roland SDE-330, i did read the HC review which is quite short but wanted to hear it from loopers.I am also interested in new units that have the shimmer synth like effect like the old digitech dhp units ( i thinkthe edge uses one)and i believe they had up to a 5 part harmony,do any of the new units(except eventide)have that cool effect? cheers Luis --- Jeff Duke wrote: > Harmony Central is always good ; > > http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Effects/product/Roland/SDE-330+Dimensional+Space+Delay/10/1 > > http://tinyurl.com/2ohnt8 > > I just googled it. > > http://www.google.com/search?q=Roland+SDE+space+delay+&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GWYE > > http://tinyurl.com/2q2puz > > > > peace > Jeff > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "L.A. Angulo" > To: "Loopers Delight" > > Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 5:45 AM > Subject: Re: qualities of reverb > > > > what about the old Roland SDE space delay and korg > > proccessors,there were so many different models > > anybody has experience with those units or a > website > > where i can read about them? > > Luis > > > > > > > > --- Tilmann Dehnhard wrote: > > > >> yes, i also remember that reverb... > >> it was looooooooooooooooooooooooong... > >> > >> tilmann > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Rick Walker" > >> To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" > >> > >> Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 12:54 PM > >> Subject: RE: qualities of reverb > >> > >> > >> > Duncan Goddard mentioned a trick with his > trusty > >> microverb: > >> > > >> > Which reminded me: > >> > > >> > The Alesis Midverb 2 had an infinite reverb in > it > >> that was just amazing. > >> > (patch #32 if memory serves) > >> > > >> > Eventually I had to upgrade my reverbs (with > more > >> Alesis and finally > >> > Lexicons) > >> > but I have never heard an infinite reverb > setting > >> that was so musical as > >> > that > >> > old archaic unit. One of my favorite tricks > when > >> I was first doing lop > >> > > >> > The rest of the verbs were pretty pathetic, > >> unfortuanately and the Alesis > >> > gear > >> > just doesn't seem to last very long. > >> > >> > > > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.3/1306 - > Release Date: 3/1/2008 > > 5:41 PM > > > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 3 22:59:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 52B3C3BECA; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 22:59:08 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 685 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Mon, 03 Mar 2008 22:59:06 UTC X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.25,440,1199624400"; d="scan'208";a="90287475" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: RE: OT: Interesting research on brain activities of improvisers Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 09:46:03 +1100 Message-ID: <9C151BE24B28B54D870B5F89BD87EBCE9BE38A@aaunsw745.au.cbainet.com> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: OT: Interesting research on brain activities of improvisers Thread-Index: Ach9eTamcXZwuZbTT3yKZq2D2TSVtwABnKJw From: "Sowonja, Tomson" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Mar 2008 22:46:12.0448 (UTC) FILETIME=[61762E00:01C87D80] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Resent-Message-ID: <5zAiBB.A.ZwD.8KIzHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79064 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 22:59:08 +0000 (UTC) Yeah Per - I'm a long time lurker/occasional poster and I always find your posts incredibly interesting/helpful and informative. I sent this link through to my Keyboardist in The Soldiers Of Fortune who is also doing his PhD in Psychology - something to do with pattern recognition/memory and music.=20 He found it very interesting and had a few comments which I've pasted below as some of you on the list may find them interesting as well: "Ah yes, I've heard about this. I haven't read the study, I'll have to find it and be more informed about exactly what was happening - lots of times media coverage of these things misses the point or gets things wrong, etc. However, it does seem more or less intuitively right to me, with some disclaimers:=20 Firstly, improvisation isn't really as improvised as people like to believe - most improvisers have a bunch of licks they play, which they know more or less well. Often it's things they know intuitively rather than consciously, but they're there.=20 [I have themes and things that I tend to use in Sliced Bread in particular songs - I don't have solos planned...though with the Soldiers of Fortune in improvisations and jams I really would make it up as I went along, feed off others - maybe that's something the study missed - the fact that improvisation happens in a group, and that would alter the way things work.] Secondly, the other thing is that brain imaging studies like the one I presume they used are temporally pretty poor in resolution, but spatially pretty good - it's hard to figure out at which points in the improvisation bits of the brain were being used, etc etc. e.g., you might find that someone inhibits the monitoring process at the start of a phrase, but doesn't at the end of a phrase. Tim." -----Original Message----- From: Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) [mailto:emile@foryourhead.com]=20 Sent: Tuesday, 4 March 2008 8:51 AM To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Interesting research on brain activities of improvisers Thanks for the great link. At 12:44 PM +0100 3/1/08, Per Boysen wrote: >I found this rather interesting:=20 > >Scientists funded by the National Institute on Deafness and Other=20 >Communication Disorders (NIDCD) have found that, when jazz musicians=20 >are engaged in the highly creative and spontaneous activity known as=20 >improvisation, a large region of the brain involved in monitoring one's >performance is shut down, while a small region involved in organizing=20 >self-initiated thoughts and behaviors is highly activated. > > >Link to read more: >-different/>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/02/29/the-real-ai-jazz-f >actor-think-different/ > >I've always also filed meditation into the same type of brain=20 >activities. Particularly disciplines where you practice to stay relaxed >and focused at the same time - without falling asleep, lose=20 >concentration or wander astray along associational thoughts. But this=20 >article doesn't mention meditation. > >-- >Greetings from Sweden > >Per Boysen >www.boysen.se (Swedish)=20 >www.looproom.com (international) --=20 "The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in the mind at the same time, and still retain the ability to function." F. Scott Fitzgerald Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer and Digital Photographer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ ************** IMPORTANT MESSAGE ***************************** =20 This e-mail message is intended only for the addressee(s) and contains info= rmation which may be confidential.=20 If you are not the intended recipient please advise the sender by return em= ail, do not use or disclose the contents, and delete the message and any attachments from your= system. Unless specifically indicated, this email does not constitute formal advice or com= mitment by the sender or the Commonwealth Bank of Australia (ABN 48 123 123 124) or its subsidiar= ies.=20 We can be contacted through our web site: commbank.com.au.=20 If you no longer wish to receive commercial electronic messages from us, pl= ease reply to this e-mail by typing Unsubscribe in the subject line.=20 ************************************************************** From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Mon Mar 3 23:09:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2D3053BED0; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 23:09:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo07 X-RZG-AUTH: lUESeo99iNzPL8kuBgLYdKEqUywq9cxqeRA+BtFcSCD10+29g0lyOutWlAs= From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: Using your USA gear in Europe (voltage adapter concerns) Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 00:10:37 +0100 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <000001c87d83$caa2e500$0201a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <873938.51283.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 Thread-Index: Ach9eF9kBYqHdWw+QIeQlEyYCbRyEAACMdDw Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79065 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 23:09:57 +0000 (UTC) Hi Margaret (and everyone here), I have not dealt with your actual problem but with the symmetrical = version of it (using German gear in the U.S.). Summarizing my = experiences, I have found the following. Most of the gear you will be using is low power and will be using = low-voltage DC current internally. That means you normally have not to = deal with the problem of 50 vs. 60 Hz at all. A possible exception are = highly-optimized power amplifiers - check your manual for those. I would classify gear in the following scheme: I. GEAR WITH INTERNAL POWER SUPPLY a) gear which adapts automatically to 100-240V and 50/60Hz (e.g. = Behringer BCF/BCR, Eventide Eclipse...) b) gear which has some sort of switch to switch between 110 and 230 = (e.g. Behringer FCB1010) c) gear which will only work with one kind of voltage II. GEAR WITH EXTERNAL POWER SUPPLY a) gear with a power supply which automatically adapts (e.g. all = laptops) c) gear with a power supply which only works with one kind of voltage = (e.g. Presonus Firebox) Strategy: It's obvious that you won't have problems with I.a) and II.a) at all. = I.b) can also be used iff you remember to switch to 230V when you go to = Europe (I believe Zoe once killed a FCB1010 when she forgot to do so), = so defining a clear checklist for your "gear preparation for Europe" is = a good thing. II.c) usually can be dealt with by finding an external power supply = which delievers the correct output voltage (or can be configured to do = so) and is an "adapting" power supply (usually so-called SPS). When I = toured to the U.S. the first time, I got some of those for my stompboxes = and also for my Firebox - they cost about =E2=82=AC5-7 apiece. A place = to look for those would be either something like RadioShack or a store = which sells laptop accessories. Important figures: * output voltage: usually selectable, but it needs to be able to supply = the voltage your gear requires. Usually, this is mentioned in your = gear's documentation. * power rating: again, the power rating (in mA or A) needs to be equal = or bigger than the power rating of the device you're using it for. = Again, consult your manual. * plugs: those universal power supplies usually come with a selection = of plugs that fit in any of those devices which have a "normal" = connector (i.e. round - either like a mini headphone jack or cylindrical = with a hole in the middle). * polarity. Polarity is indicated usually either on your gear or on its = power supply, and your new power supply needs to match it. Note that those devices which have a very "peculiar" plug need to be = treated according to I.c) below, unless you want to start making your = own power leads. Also note that with your new power supply, you can also operate your = gear in the U.S. Fail-safe ATTENTION: By using the wrong (too high) voltage or by using wrong = polarity, it's possible to damage your gear. If you're unsure, ask the = tech guy of your choice. I.c) these are the ones with the biggest problem. As somebody already = mentioned, you need a special external transformer for them which will = transform 230V to 110V. There are special devices sold for this purpose = - the important figure is again the power rating: the power rating of = the transformer needs to be higher or equal to the total power rating of = all the devices you're connecting. As a computer-based musician with a stompbox backup rig, I'm happy to = say that most of my setup is nearly completely foolproof to this regard. = The stompboxes (DD20, G2.1u - in the future perhaps also EH SMM = w/Hazari) have SPSs, as has the audio interface. The laptop has a SPS = from the start, as has the BCR2000. The only weak point is the FCB1010 - = I always have to remember to switch back to 230V before returning to = Germany. Hope this helps, Rainer From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 4 02:43:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A4153BE7F; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 02:43:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 6931 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Tue, 04 Mar 2008 02:43:11 UTC Message-ID: <1204585564.47cc845c64f8e@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 17:06:04 -0600 From: cpr@musetrap.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: OT: Interesting research on brain activities of improvisers References: <9C151BE24B28B54D870B5F89BD87EBCE9BE38A@aaunsw745.au.cbainet.com> In-Reply-To: <9C151BE24B28B54D870B5F89BD87EBCE9BE38A@aaunsw745.au.cbainet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.2 X-Originating-IP: 208.49.125.142 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79066 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 02:43:12 +0000 (UTC) Coincidentally, I am currently reading "This is You Brain on Music" by Daniel J Levitin, who runs the Laboratory for Musical Perception, Cognition and Expertise at McGill University. I just started it a few days ago, but I am enjoying it thus far.. :) peace -cpr Quoting "Sowonja, Tomson" : > Yeah Per - I'm a long time lurker/occasional poster and I always find > your posts incredibly interesting/helpful and informative. > > I sent this link through to my Keyboardist in The Soldiers Of Fortune > who is also doing his PhD in Psychology - something to do with pattern > recognition/memory and music. > > He found it very interesting and had a few comments which I've pasted > below as some of you on the list may find them interesting as well: > > "Ah yes, I've heard about this. I haven't read the study, I'll have to > find it and be more informed about exactly what was happening - lots of > times media coverage of these things misses the point or gets things > wrong, etc. > > However, it does seem more or less intuitively right to me, with some > disclaimers: > > Firstly, improvisation isn't really as improvised as people like to > believe - most improvisers have a bunch of licks they play, which they > know more or less well. Often it's things they know intuitively rather > than consciously, but they're there. > > [I have themes and things that I tend to use in Sliced Bread in > particular songs - I don't have solos planned...though with the Soldiers > of Fortune in improvisations and jams I really would make it up as I > went along, feed off others - maybe that's something the study missed - > the fact that improvisation happens in a group, and that would alter the > way things work.] > > Secondly, the other thing is that brain imaging studies like the one I > presume they used are temporally pretty poor in resolution, but > spatially pretty good - it's hard to figure out at which points in the > improvisation bits of the brain were being used, etc etc. e.g., you > might find that someone inhibits the monitoring process at the start of > a phrase, but doesn't at the end of a phrase. > > Tim." > > -----Original Message----- > From: Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) [mailto:emile@foryourhead.com] > Sent: Tuesday, 4 March 2008 8:51 AM > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Subject: Re: OT: Interesting research on brain activities of improvisers > > Thanks for the great link. > > At 12:44 PM +0100 3/1/08, Per Boysen wrote: > >I found this rather interesting: > > > >Scientists funded by the National Institute on Deafness and Other > >Communication Disorders (NIDCD) have found that, when jazz musicians > >are engaged in the highly creative and spontaneous activity known as > >improvisation, a large region of the brain involved in monitoring one's > > >performance is shut down, while a small region involved in organizing > >self-initiated thoughts and behaviors is highly activated. > > > > > >Link to read more: > > >-different/>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/02/29/the-real-ai-jazz-f > >actor-think-different/ > > > >I've always also filed meditation into the same type of brain > >activities. Particularly disciplines where you practice to stay relaxed > > >and focused at the same time - without falling asleep, lose > >concentration or wander astray along associational thoughts. But this > >article doesn't mention meditation. > > > >-- > >Greetings from Sweden > > > >Per Boysen > >www.boysen.se (Swedish) > >www.looproom.com (international) > > > -- > > "The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two > opposed ideas in the mind at the same time, and still retain the ability > to function." > > F. Scott Fitzgerald > > > Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. > Video Producer and Digital Photographer Image Processing Specialist > Video for your HEAD! Boris FX > http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com > > My photography can be viewed at > http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ > > > ************** IMPORTANT MESSAGE ***************************** > This e-mail message is intended only for the addressee(s) and contains > information which may be > confidential. > If you are not the intended recipient please advise the sender by return > email, do not use or > disclose the contents, and delete the message and any attachments from your > system. Unless > specifically indicated, this email does not constitute formal advice or > commitment by the sender > or the Commonwealth Bank of Australia (ABN 48 123 123 124) or its > subsidiaries. > We can be contacted through our web site: commbank.com.au. > If you no longer wish to receive commercial electronic messages from us, > please reply to this > e-mail by typing Unsubscribe in the subject line. > ************************************************************** > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 4 03:34:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E4ABE3BE80; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 03:34:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=q0YEjaWQrMIA:10 a=b6uLoGD6bQPOFAHAID0A:9 a=XoyTrg88a5LSqS6l76hK4IhtvD0A:4 a=SffsgEYwDXwA:10 a=f-ADshzQSboA:10 a=MJW7YRHiX4_brncfuGIA:9 a=WRyVz9ilEStFT3DCqmUA:7 a=5Yhsbacu_5bulZOVSv_n4ba3p0oA:4 a=37WNUvjkh6kA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) In-Reply-To: <1204585564.47cc845c64f8e@webmail.musetrap.com> References: <9C151BE24B28B54D870B5F89BD87EBCE9BE38A@aaunsw745.au.cbainet.com> <1204585564.47cc845c64f8e@webmail.musetrap.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-19-808682037 Message-Id: <387F800D-780E-4B3C-BBC0-8EA30F3EFA3A@zoekeating.com> From: info at zoekeating Subject: Re: OT: Interesting research on brain activities of improvisers Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 19:34:24 -0800 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79067 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 03:34:28 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-19-808682037 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed so am i! i'm liking it, but i wish it was a bit more in depth. he spends a lot of time explaining basic musical concepts, i guess for non-musicians. i'm also reading musicophilia, by oliver sacks, which two people gave me for christmas. that i'm enjoying very much and highly recommend so far. interesting subject! On Mar 3, 2008, at 3:06 PM, cpr@musetrap.com wrote: > Coincidentally, I am currently reading "This is You Brain on Music" > by Daniel J > Levitin, who runs the Laboratory for Musical Perception, Cognition and > Expertise at McGill University. I just started it a few days ago, > but I am > enjoying it thus far.. :) > > peace > -cpr --Apple-Mail-19-808682037 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII so am i! i'm liking it, but i wish it was a bit more in depth. he spends = a lot of time explaining basic musical concepts, i guess for = non-musicians.

i'm = also reading musicophilia, by oliver sacks, which two people gave me for = christmas. that i'm enjoying very much and highly recommend so = far.

interesting = subject!

On Mar 3, 2008, at 3:06 PM, cpr@musetrap.com wrote:

Coincidentally, I am = currently reading "This is You Brain on Music" by Daniel J

Levitin, who runs the = Laboratory for Musical Perception, Cognition and

Expertise at McGill = University. I just started it a few days ago, but I am

enjoying it thus far.. = :)


peace

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= --Apple-Mail-19-808682037-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 4 03:36:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BF5163BE85; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 03:36:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 21:38:42 -0600 From: Jeff Shirkey Subject: Re: OT: Interesting research on brain activities of improvisers In-reply-to: <387F800D-780E-4B3C-BBC0-8EA30F3EFA3A@zoekeating.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit References: <9C151BE24B28B54D870B5F89BD87EBCE9BE38A@aaunsw745.au.cbainet.com> <1204585564.47cc845c64f8e@webmail.musetrap.com> <387F800D-780E-4B3C-BBC0-8EA30F3EFA3A@zoekeating.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79068 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 03:36:16 +0000 (UTC) > > i'm also reading musicophilia, by oliver sacks, which two people > gave me for christmas. that i'm enjoying very much and highly > recommend so far. I've got that one on my shelf also. I'm glad to hear you recommend it. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 4 04:51:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CE1783BE7F; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 04:51:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=0LpQcr+0ml5WalcdRFOkNrOgGA9fbtg906f7VEyMLCo=; b=gpeLdpuBpM4i3c/iF0GMFoUqItRvdGeo97+oiXwZqfcJr0jsaET65SjnH8kSX1T9du4tbNXljZ4cnr1HwdCTHuSHajyWGn+anhczAv460NZVD+3JJXkt+qCxMuPipCRx67VwBUL6DSgxlt3Do69Sy3WeHcx3c1e7V4LWk7ctS74= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=hCIORYSym0evwzcul0eUVwHcdbfDaKDVYqAbdMKvIp9PX1oINEGCLRC0ls7AYotcbzEbK84fvvpDh5BT8QWgHT3iEeJsqcgj5Gmk0Ma4l5OXjN2P72HeU+BG0iSrtY/GGVj4Hx6JAzXrdm238JoVbi/SbsiFbXmC6D4Lg0DVnIw= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0803032051j4869796chfd79482cd13da409@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 05:51:39 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Interesting research on brain activities of improvisers In-Reply-To: <9C151BE24B28B54D870B5F89BD87EBCE9BE38A@aaunsw745.au.cbainet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <9C151BE24B28B54D870B5F89BD87EBCE9BE38A@aaunsw745.au.cbainet.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79069 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 04:51:42 +0000 (UTC) On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 11:46 PM, Sowonja, Tomson wrote: > I sent this link through to my Keyboardist in The Soldiers Of Fortune > who is also doing his PhD in Psychology - something to do with pattern > recognition/memory and music. > > He found it very interesting and had a few comments which I've pasted > below as some of you on the list may find them interesting as well: Hi Tim, Here's a link to a better article on that research project: http://www.scientificblogging.com/news_releases/study_prefrontal_cortex_in_jazz_musicians_winds_down_when_improvising And here's a long and really initiated article: http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0001679 Per From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 4 05:13:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 725A33BE84; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 05:13:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2008 23:57:33 -0500 From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Books Re: OT: Interesting research on brain activities of improvisers In-reply-to: <66f9cc1e0803032051j4869796chfd79482cd13da409@mail.gmail.com> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed References: <9C151BE24B28B54D870B5F89BD87EBCE9BE38A@aaunsw745.au.cbainet.com> <66f9cc1e0803032051j4869796chfd79482cd13da409@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79070 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 05:13:54 +0000 (UTC) A friend whom I sent this to asked if I have read Free Play by Nachmanovich http://www.freeplay.com/ which I have read about 3 times and I highly recommend. At 5:51 AM +0100 3/4/08, Per Boysen wrote: >On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 11:46 PM, Sowonja, Tomson > wrote: > >> I sent this link through to my Keyboardist in The Soldiers Of Fortune >> who is also doing his PhD in Psychology - something to do with pattern >> recognition/memory and music. >> >> He found it very interesting and had a few comments which I've pasted >> below as some of you on the list may find them interesting as well: > > >Hi Tim, > >Here's a link to a better article on that research project: >http://www.scientificblogging.com/news_releases/study_prefrontal_cortex_in_jazz_musicians_winds_down_when_improvising > >And here's a long and really initiated article: >http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0001679 > >Per -- "The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in the mind at the same time, and still retain the ability to function." F. Scott Fitzgerald Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. 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My name is Mr.DAVIDBranch manager of a financial institution here in Ghana, I am a Ghanaian married with two kids.  I am writing to solicit your assistance in the transfer of   $  12.8 Million United States dollars only.
 
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Make Yahoo your homepage. --0-1734758159-1204622738=:48786-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 4 10:25:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 037AC3BE88; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 10:25:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authenticated: #5829618 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/eGAc64KHe9GQOhn4Q5w8heHGSRozavLw6MNiR03 cVtYMmOqEN3KoK Message-ID: <003c01c87de3$ae693dc0$c69efe91@parsick> From: "Wavecomputer360" To: References: <95909.72459.qm@web38602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: qualities of reverb Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 00:06:08 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1506 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1506 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79071 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 10:25:36 +0000 (UTC) Hi Luis, the SDE-330 is a very nice-sounding delay with a lot going for it (I think the big selling point was it having the 3D algorithms of the fabled RSS unit). The bad thing is, it´s not very straightforward to use, you can tweak more parametres than you would actually want to tweak (but nowhere near as many as on the Sony DPS-D7, though). There´s a lot of stuff that requires proper reading, and this is what keeps me from using it as a simple delay. Also, some of the more complex delays and some of the 3D stuff tends to produce some phase cancellation artefacts which I find slightly unnerving because there´s always this type of comb filter effect on the delays. Sometimes too many options can be a nightmare, especially when you just want a stereo delay that is simple to use... The SRV-330 is a very good-sounding reverb processor with some of the algorithms of the R-880. Same thing here, you can tweak yourself to death but the results are generally worth it. Especially the chorused reverb washes sound very nice. I have both units, the SDE-330 and the SRV-330, in my live rack. Stephen ____________________________________________________________________ "Ambition makes you look pretty ugly, kicking squealing Gucci little piggy." (Thom Yorke/Radiohead -- "Paranoid Android") Finally available: Stephen Parsick -- Traces of the Past Redux, reissued with three previously unreleased bonus tracks. It´s out: [´ramp] & markus reuter -- "ceasing to exist", a gorgeous dark ambient album. available through our webshop at www.doombient.com For info and audio, please visit the official [´ramp] website at www.doombient.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "L.A. Angulo" To: Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 11:23 PM Subject: Re: qualities of reverb > Thanx jeff,i was specially interested in the Roland > SDE-330, i did read the HC review which is quite short > but wanted to hear it from loopers.I am also > interested in new units that have the shimmer synth > like effect like the old digitech dhp units ( i > thinkthe edge uses one)and i believe they had up to a > 5 part harmony,do any of the new units(except > eventide)have that cool effect? > cheers > Luis > > > > --- Jeff Duke wrote: > > > Harmony Central is always good ; > > > > > http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Effects/product/Roland/SDE-330+Dimensional+Space+Delay/10/1 > > > > http://tinyurl.com/2ohnt8 > > > > I just googled it. > > > > > http://www.google.com/search?q=Roland+SDE+space+delay+&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GWYE > > > > http://tinyurl.com/2q2puz > > > > > > > > peace > > Jeff > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "L.A. Angulo" > > To: "Loopers Delight" > > > > Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 5:45 AM > > Subject: Re: qualities of reverb > > > > > > > what about the old Roland SDE space delay and korg > > > proccessors,there were so many different models > > > anybody has experience with those units or a > > website > > > where i can read about them? > > > Luis > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Tilmann Dehnhard wrote: > > > > > >> yes, i also remember that reverb... > > >> it was looooooooooooooooooooooooong... > > >> > > >> tilmann > > >> > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: "Rick Walker" > > >> To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" > > >> > > >> Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 12:54 PM > > >> Subject: RE: qualities of reverb > > >> > > >> > > >> > Duncan Goddard mentioned a trick with his > > trusty > > >> microverb: > > >> > > > >> > Which reminded me: > > >> > > > >> > The Alesis Midverb 2 had an infinite reverb in > > it > > >> that was just amazing. > > >> > (patch #32 if memory serves) > > >> > > > >> > Eventually I had to upgrade my reverbs (with > > more > > >> Alesis and finally > > >> > Lexicons) > > >> > but I have never heard an infinite reverb > > setting > > >> that was so musical as > > >> > that > > >> > old archaic unit. One of my favorite tricks > > when > > >> I was first doing lop > > >> > > > >> > The rest of the verbs were pretty pathetic, > > >> unfortuanately and the Alesis > > >> > gear > > >> > just doesn't seem to last very long. > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ > > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. > > > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.21.3/1306 - > > Release Date: 3/1/2008 > > > 5:41 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 4 10:48:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B60B53BE8C; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 10:48:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: Ricoloop Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 11:48:47 +0100 Message-ID: <005101c87de5$53eca6a0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ach95VLJ3T1DaXpfR66D0llDqv/amQ== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79072 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 10:48:58 +0000 (UTC) busking looper in Berlin: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Px_LF5Ir8F4 here's his homepage with more amazing videos: http://www.ricoloop.com I don't know what kind of speed he is on :-) but it is very entertaining and inspiring to watch him. -Michael From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 4 12:47:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 49E073BE84; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 12:47:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <005101c87de5$53eca6a0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> References: <005101c87de5$53eca6a0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chris Sewell Subject: Re: Ricoloop Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 07:47:09 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79073 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 12:47:13 +0000 (UTC) Why do all beatboxers do that shit with their hands? On Mar 4, 2008, at 5:48 AM, Michael Peters wrote: > busking looper in Berlin: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Px_LF5Ir8F4 > > here's his homepage with more amazing videos: http://www.ricoloop.com > > I don't know what kind of speed he is on :-) but it is very > entertaining and > inspiring to watch him. > > -Michael > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 4 12:58:36 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 56E293BE88; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 12:58:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo07 X-RZG-AUTH: lUESeo99iNzPL8kuBgLYdKEqUywq9cxqeRA+BtFcSCD5deQ7OINJAdr/0L8= From: "Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill" To: Subject: AW: Ricoloop Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 13:59:20 +0100 Organization: Moinlabs Message-ID: <000101c87df7$8fcf22d0$0201a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ach99d7jy3gLT8VNThO1H8EHx7TYzQAAZABA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 In-Reply-To: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79074 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 12:58:36 +0000 (UTC) Why do all metalheads do that shit with their heads? Why do all men at the opening of the Wiener Opernball wear that cuttail shit? Because it's the style! > Why do all beatboxers do that shit with their hands? From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 4 13:44:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7757F3BE82; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 13:44:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; bh=D/nKUnpzgRcK7988HBM26QloxNhAj7zR2537eRvjJig=; b=B7DcCOEfvioJ25xVlr1ctk8qqVCBFxS07BzkC2q/YnUq68CApcyWdB5nMxj8l51nz3MN+aJKArcSAYy0deKXrOcP+EEezANm1ycfrUekuxLeN6V9BAcyKBzKASaoU15RNQLrngI9DLXSLIJqy2mt5go/SAqkVkrAyHnZFxl+U3c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=LVZVBoTqG+DUC7/aYHVleLR5WT+bX853TniLCUqwZypX4nLSl0JZxdx7WfQyr9kTylBlN5TmSiOt4LIq31JdfhPHE8fqL3VKg0mtiN3IYh++QNwZk29RDYDjxk+Ry7GiWbS4iVvdMvpebP9gB/wURrxVYZ5i9PA+1MULhB0ZCfM= Message-ID: <825dc38e0803040544s1b9d66c2m52753d072bb963df@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 08:44:42 -0500 From: "neil wiernik" Sender: neil.wiernik@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Announcing Vague Terrain 09: Rise of the VJ In-Reply-To: <825dc38e0803040536i7f4d3c80h1c2ce100e6d4cffa@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_7246_10367633.1204638282756" References: <825dc38e0803040536i7f4d3c80h1c2ce100e6d4cffa@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7cd3f5d3c4ca2544 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79075 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 13:44:43 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_7246_10367633.1204638282756 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Announcing Vague Terrain 09: Rise of the VJ Vague Terrain is excited to announce the launch of our new issue, Vague Terrain 09: Rise of the VJ. Guest curated by Saskatoon-based VJ and artist Carrie Gates, this installment of our digital arts quarterly brings together a wide variety of work exploring emerging VJ culture. featuring work from: ana carvalho kelley bolen and jake hardy defasten francis theberge jackson 2bears jaygo bloom (interviewed by michelle kasprzak) lara houston leeane berger michael betancourt mo selle neubau / kero ryan stec solu (interviewed by peter kirn) tim jaeger VJ pillow / VJ mademoiselle VJzoo / chrism & fenris x=E1rene eskandar ziv lazar view the issue: via http://www.vagueterrain.net/content/archives/journal09/journal09.html Thanks for your continued support! Greg J. Smith & Neil Wiernik http://vagueterrain.net ------=_Part_7246_10367633.1204638282756 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline


Announcing Vague Terrain 09: Rise of= the VJ

Vague Terrain is excited to announce the launch of our new issue, Vague
Terrain 09: Rise of the VJ. Guest curated by Saskatoon-based VJ and
artist Carrie Gates, this installment of our digital arts quarterly
brings together a wide variety of work exploring emerging VJ culture.

featuring work from:

ana carvalho
kelley bolen and jake hardy
defasten
francis theberge
jackson 2bears
jaygo bloom (interviewed by michelle kasprzak)
lara houston
leeane berger
michael betancourt
mo selle
neubau / kero
ryan stec
solu (interviewed by peter kirn)
tim jaeger
VJ pillow / VJ mademoiselle
VJzoo / chrism & fenris
x=E1rene eskandar
ziv lazar

view the issue: via
http://www.vagueterrain.net/content/archives/journ= al09/journal09.html

Thanks for your continued support!

Greg J. Smith & Neil Wiernik
http://vagueterrain.= net




------=_Part_7246_10367633.1204638282756-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 4 13:48:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 83D0C3BE81; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 13:48:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <000101c87df7$8fcf22d0$0201a8c0@succubus> References: <000101c87df7$8fcf22d0$0201a8c0@succubus> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <07B7D4F5-087E-47F6-BA2A-1A24AA2EE74B@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chris Sewell Subject: Re: AW: Ricoloop Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 08:48:31 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79076 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 13:48:35 +0000 (UTC) Right. Well you would think just one of them somewhere wouldn't flail around like that. But no. They all do it. Its just getting a little old is all. On Mar 4, 2008, at 7:59 AM, Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill wrote: > Why do all metalheads do that shit with their heads? Why do all men > at the > opening of the Wiener Opernball wear that cuttail shit? > Because it's the style! > >> Why do all beatboxers do that shit with their hands? > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 4 14:23:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C3A9E3BE93; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 14:23:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: "Michael Peters" To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: totally OT - need translation help Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 15:22:49 +0100 Message-ID: <008401c87e03$3b014600$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ach+AzktQaPFo4OJT9KVZfjHrVkr+w== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: <5b8F_.A.KgE.FtVzHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79077 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 14:23:01 +0000 (UTC) hi all - I've finally tried to translate my German (web programming) business website into English. I hope I'll find some English speaking companies out there will give me some projects so that I can buy more looping gear :-) I'd appreciate any help and comments on my English - it's basically just = two pages but I'm not at all sure about some of the phrasing (just like in = my guitar playing :-) so if there is anything that sounds awkward please = let me know how to put it. (Please, offline comments only, I don't want to use any LD bandwidth for this.) mit freundlichen Gr=FC=DFen Michael Peters mp@mpeters.de www.mpeters.de From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 4 16:12:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E7D8F3BE88; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 16:12:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=n0yThmXkEBosLknd01cpRijtuJeR1NUPpK5LGAaI3Ww1wh7kTiDEKQaESSK6mqVTDdtfQ1HhPx8pgKTQfKGH+edW/usGlHbQ/sRSzT+3wiW4sbTHObQutlr7VKaqTJULkcrgDUQKTTxw8DGFnhXWhCVb2Kki2nH1XZaqT1Ex040=; X-YMail-OSG: LX4UzHsVM1mO_gZtgqLQGFPjin.xOGOdgL1M9SQWGlKu9irOJ8R7xjROh3I3sjBUVWlUqkPo1FQPMVBa8IXws1AoIwoukCa7SpkoY4KsM9QhrBeOcyk- Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 08:12:44 -0800 (PST) From: stevenguerrero Subject: Re: AW: Ricoloop To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <07B7D4F5-087E-47F6-BA2A-1A24AA2EE74B@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <370480.5683.qm@web34501.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79078 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 16:12:45 +0000 (UTC) He uses a melodica...who cares what he does with his hands. Melodica trumps silly hand movements every time. Plus.... dude can grove. --- Chris Sewell wrote: > Right. Well you would think just one of them > somewhere wouldn't flail > around like that. But no. They all do it. Its just > getting a little > old is all. > On Mar 4, 2008, at 7:59 AM, Rainer Thelonius > Balthasar Straschill wrote: > > > Why do all metalheads do that shit with their > heads? Why do all men > > at the > > opening of the Wiener Opernball wear that cuttail > shit? > > Because it's the style! > > > >> Why do all beatboxers do that shit with their > hands? > > > > www.myspace.com/mesqua www.reverbnation.com/stevenguerrero ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 4 16:13:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 93A413BE95; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 16:13:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:x-google-sender-auth; bh=Tgx5B4Y7n7oSaa4onxaK3tS/2SNEo+wkMuHXpGBXiGk=; b=Re3Mjlhkvd5X9VGT9d4fydjjy3XBEedRp+7S2eGz2dI9CNvhDeEygFZwG9RsppSuyZ7ApJB/eMt4MH//6ZRthcnNhgD2aGYQHfeKsYJvTDyyHmj8IE9YpJ8+AkiO6UcDB90rfUu1W/gbwLGm99o8DQ5tbNmuIIk8WKp+8c8bl3o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type:x-google-sender-auth; b=d+BEWaVg6lFPbwPx7eMMGUdiolGn22uwg+sGshlAMAQVHisNB4yq8FIson46DYBYhyHU3nyOgfPeX2J+NC4y0V+nx5VgJjXQzSvo/VEATRLNnezQ18F/Qgyv7PCOAhBALPkbXKXz5uPcQ7heFwUvBpJEe/g9Voaccy7E95ovJpw= Message-ID: <825dc38e0803040813r4e167665j16f2bdd12c68203c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 11:13:53 -0500 From: "neil wiernik" Sender: neil.wiernik@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: naw.music update MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_7682_32044903.1204647233384" X-Google-Sender-Auth: 52d63a77791d4386 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79079 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 16:13:54 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_7682_32044903.1204647233384 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi Just a quick note the naw website has been updated www.phoniq.net is the naw HQ of you dont know already... NOTE the new releases and upcoming shows in March. hope to see some of you out an around soon... take care Neil aka naw -- ============================ www.phoniq.net ------=_Part_7682_32044903.1204647233384 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hi
Just a quick note the naw website has been updated
www.phoniq.net is the naw HQ of you dont know already...
NOTE the new releases and upcoming shows in March.
hope to see some of you out an around soon...
take care
Neil aka naw

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------=_Part_7682_32044903.1204647233384-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 4 16:22:58 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1355E3BE8F; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 16:22:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=nWhmDf+qAASnv2uPwEEa6/HMP6BSpy7hrzqcEEFMwBTySz1kW6glsb7gO85+4AiL+aKm2QJ7KuvxKCvingZFm+VSY/H3/aWe6Bqw2jdbsrjFQgHpFKAQtT1Oii4lsEZkFazKbw2uMyJYLuNTDk7z7c/zic6/DADImhpL3qlboPY=; X-YMail-OSG: s3V0g3EVM1m3uRTcUHAVenemWAAtLfUNNZLZat2.E5K82yEMWH4RzGutHPafs5L1gUER5fcNbNl1ptOILOm45ob4YOriWbeGs2pxidiaoIKT3jzDOm0- Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 08:22:56 -0800 (PST) From: stevenguerrero Subject: RE: OT: Interesting research on brain activities of improvisers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <1204585564.47cc845c64f8e@webmail.musetrap.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <42917.15043.qm@web34506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79080 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 16:22:58 +0000 (UTC) I'm reading that right now as well! --- cpr@musetrap.com wrote: > Coincidentally, I am currently reading "This is You > Brain on Music" by Daniel J > Levitin, who runs the Laboratory for Musical > Perception, Cognition and > Expertise at McGill University. I just started it a > few days ago, but I am > enjoying it thus far.. :) > > peace > -cpr > > Quoting "Sowonja, Tomson" > : > > > Yeah Per - I'm a long time lurker/occasional > poster and I always find > > your posts incredibly interesting/helpful and > informative. > > > > I sent this link through to my Keyboardist in The > Soldiers Of Fortune > > who is also doing his PhD in Psychology - > something to do with pattern > > recognition/memory and music. > > > > He found it very interesting and had a few > comments which I've pasted > > below as some of you on the list may find them > interesting as well: > > > > "Ah yes, I've heard about this. I haven't read the > study, I'll have to > > find it and be more informed about exactly what > was happening - lots of > > times media coverage of these things misses the > point or gets things > > wrong, etc. > > > > However, it does seem more or less intuitively > right to me, with some > > disclaimers: > > > > Firstly, improvisation isn't really as improvised > as people like to > > believe - most improvisers have a bunch of licks > they play, which they > > know more or less well. Often it's things they > know intuitively rather > > than consciously, but they're there. > > > > [I have themes and things that I tend to use in > Sliced Bread in > > particular songs - I don't have solos > planned...though with the Soldiers > > of Fortune in improvisations and jams I really > would make it up as I > > went along, feed off others - maybe that's > something the study missed - > > the fact that improvisation happens in a group, > and that would alter the > > way things work.] > > > > Secondly, the other thing is that brain imaging > studies like the one I > > presume they used are temporally pretty poor in > resolution, but > > spatially pretty good - it's hard to figure out at > which points in the > > improvisation bits of the brain were being used, > etc etc. e.g., you > > might find that someone inhibits the monitoring > process at the start of > > a phrase, but doesn't at the end of a phrase. > > > > Tim." > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T) > [mailto:emile@foryourhead.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, 4 March 2008 8:51 AM > > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > > Subject: Re: OT: Interesting research on brain > activities of improvisers > > > > Thanks for the great link. > > > > At 12:44 PM +0100 3/1/08, Per Boysen wrote: > > >I found this rather interesting: > > > > > >Scientists funded by the National Institute on > Deafness and Other > > >Communication Disorders (NIDCD) have found that, > when jazz musicians > > >are engaged in the highly creative and > spontaneous activity known as > > >improvisation, a large region of the brain > involved in monitoring one's > > > > >performance is shut down, while a small region > involved in organizing > > >self-initiated thoughts and behaviors is highly > activated. > > > > > > > > >Link to read more: > > > > > > >-different/>http://createdigitalmusic.com/2008/02/29/the-real-ai-jazz-f > > >actor-think-different/ > > > > > >I've always also filed meditation into the same > type of brain > > >activities. Particularly disciplines where you > practice to stay relaxed > > > > >and focused at the same time - without falling > asleep, lose > > >concentration or wander astray along > associational thoughts. But this > > >article doesn't mention meditation. > > > > > >-- > > >Greetings from Sweden > > > > > >Per Boysen > > >www.boysen.se (Swedish) > > >www.looproom.com > (international) > > > > > > -- > > > > "The test of a first-rate intelligence is the > ability to hold two > > opposed ideas in the mind at the same time, and > still retain the ability > > to function." > > > > F. Scott Fitzgerald > > > > > > Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. > > Video Producer and Digital Photographer Image > Processing Specialist > > Video for your HEAD! 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Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 4 16:40:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 944F43BE94; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 16:40:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20080304114028.LTWMV.111411.root@fepweb14> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 8:40:28 -0800 From: =?utf-8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Ricoloop Cc: Michael Peters In-Reply-To: <005101c87de5$53eca6a0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: <0UmltC.A.UEC.BuXzHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79081 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 16:40:33 +0000 (UTC) LOL, Wasn't this fellow mentioned on LD a couple years back ('06?) as sort of be= ing Rick Walker's somewhat more "inside" musical doppelganger? Cheers, tEd =C2=AE kiLLiAn "Different is not always better, but better is always different" Flux Aeterna: http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?p= layListId=3D6378076=20 Also check out the BEMF 1 CDs at: http://www.boisemusicians.com/experimenta= l/cd.htm http://www.pfmentum.com/flux.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.garageband.com/artist/ArsOcarina http://www.netmusic.com/web/album.aspx?a_id=3DCBNM_17314 http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 http://www.loopers-delight.com/cgi-bin/profiles.cgi?step=3Dview_profile&id= =3D121197000042 http://www.guitarplayer.com/story.asp?storyCode=3D18131 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at: Apple iTunes, BuyMusic, Rhapsody, MusicMatch, MusicNet, DiscLogic, Napster, AudioLunchbox, Lindows, QTRnote, Music4Cents, Etherstream, RuleRadio, EMEPE3, Sony Connect, CatchMusic, Puretracks, and Viztas. Yadda, yadda, yadda. Blah, blah, blah. So??? ---- Michael Peters wrote:=20 > busking looper in Berlin: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3DPx_LF5Ir8F4 >=20 > here's his homepage with more amazing videos: http://www.ricoloop.com >=20 > I don't know what kind of speed he is on :-) but it is very entertaining = and > inspiring to watch him. >=20 > -Michael > From sam_sogoba2@walla.com Tue Mar 4 19:10:32 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 76548 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Tue, 04 Mar 2008 19:10:31 UTC Received: from omail106.walla.co.il (omail106.walla.co.il [192.118.71.106]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FD843BE73 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:10:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from omail106.walla.co.il (omail106.walla.co.il [127.0.0.1]) by omail106.walla.co.il (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id m23LsDBq016696; Mon, 3 Mar 2008 23:54:13 +0200 Received: (from informix@localhost) by omail106.walla.co.il (8.13.5/8.13.1/Submit) id 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Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 21:48:37 +0100 (CET) From: rune fagereng Subject: Youtube music - To: loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com, fred.bauer@computacenter.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <392713.60382.qm@web26202.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79082 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 20:48:41 +0000 (UTC) Hi ! Have you looked at this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24v2lgkDhzU&feature=related best regards Rune F. _________________________________________________________ Alt i ett. Fĺ Yahoo! Mail med adressekartotek, kalender og notisblokk. http://no.mail.yahoo.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 4 21:38:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 97F143BE82; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 21:38:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1204648596.47cd7a9496d0e@webmail.musetrap.com> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 10:36:36 -0600 From: cpr@musetrap.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: AW: Ricoloop References: <000101c87df7$8fcf22d0$0201a8c0@succubus> In-Reply-To: <000101c87df7$8fcf22d0$0201a8c0@succubus> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.2 X-Originating-IP: 24.6.254.52 Resent-Message-ID: <1Liuh.A.NnE.GFczHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79083 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 21:38:14 +0000 (UTC) I disagree... well, not with the opening of the Wiener Opernball, but, with both the beatboxers and metalheads, I think the motions are actually important to the making of the music... I'm not sure if I can articulate what I think about it, but, it's this whole kinesthetic thing.. feeling the music with your whole body.. participating fully in the energy of the music... I'd like to think Rick Walker has something to say about this too.. hehe... peace -cpr Quoting Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill : > Why do all metalheads do that shit with their heads? Why do all men at the > opening of the Wiener Opernball wear that cuttail shit? > Because it's the style! > > > Why do all beatboxers do that shit with their hands? > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 4 21:49:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F37EB3BE7F; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 21:49:26 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <1204648596.47cd7a9496d0e@webmail.musetrap.com> References: <000101c87df7$8fcf22d0$0201a8c0@succubus> <1204648596.47cd7a9496d0e@webmail.musetrap.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <6B6618C3-13E8-471A-99C3-330F797B5976@mac.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chris Sewell Subject: Re: AW: Ricoloop Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 16:48:57 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79084 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 21:49:26 +0000 (UTC) I suspect they are pretending to be playing a real instrument. Visualizing the movements of a turntable and other assorted props. Fine. That makes sense. I'm just surprised that to a Beatboxer, they ALL do it. I don't know, to me it's a little goofy. Even the guys that mix it in with singing, once they start "beatboxing", the hand goes up and starts to wiggle around. But yeah, stylistically, It seems appropriate. Still guys, just an observation. On Mar 4, 2008, at 11:36 AM, cpr@musetrap.com wrote: > I disagree... well, not with the opening of the Wiener Opernball, > but, with > both > the beatboxers and metalheads, I think the motions are actually > important to > the making of the music... I'm not sure if I can articulate what I > think about > it, but, it's this whole kinesthetic thing.. feeling the music with > your whole > body.. participating fully in the energy of the music... I'd like > to think Rick > Walker has something to say about this too.. hehe... > > peace > -cpr > > Quoting Rainer Thelonius Balthasar Straschill : > >> Why do all metalheads do that shit with their heads? Why do all >> men at the >> opening of the Wiener Opernball wear that cuttail shit? >> Because it's the style! >> >>> Why do all beatboxers do that shit with their hands? >> >> > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 4 23:20:32 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 45F2B3BE81; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 23:20:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=onIA+7rsHN1uFhltsT/8CHVLGLM5agKGcIyQrzfm3OKpCCDAbXRU7qYeEzVqzwfTy1UpS6AdZGHrLmYYx5lO85BLdGNUQXUUXVQYAW8PWB9+yMLntbCTE3y/zJR4tkNhbK22s/udgfvLQH7VpWSNSw+sf617EHHBKMj1ZwmM3so=; X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/902.35 YahooMailWebService/0.7.162 Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 15:20:31 -0800 (PST) From: Guy Joyce Subject: Re: Terry Riley videos? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <231363.80767.qm@web52411.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79085 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 23:20:32 +0000 (UTC) Michael There's a great video of Terry Riley playing his just intonation synth live here: http://ubuweb.com/film/aether.html. The video is called "Landscape with Terry Riley". You'll have to sit through about 40min of Terry Riley talking to Robert Ashley, mostly about goats and goats' milk (!!!) first (plus a bit about composition etc) which is either irritating or unintentionally hilarious depending on your mood, but after that there's an AMAZING 45min piece of music called Shri Camel: Morning Corona which is well worth the wait. You can also download the music as an mp3. BTW my favourite LPs/CDs by Terry are: * Shri Camel (studio recording with multitracked just intonation synths - gorgeous) * Harp of the New Albion (double CD of just intonation piano - amazing) * Lisbon Concert (ordinary piano tuning, astonishing versatility and fluctuations of mood) * Soundtrack to Les Yeux Fermes / Lifespan (recently released soundtrack to 70's films with some amazing synth work) * Poppy Nogood and the Phantom Band "All Night Flight" Vol 1 (Not to be confused with a similarly titled album. This one contains amazing saxophone solos going through Terrys 'Time Lag Accumulator') Have you heard any of these ? They're ALL well worth checking out. Cheers, Guy (XISTH entertainment) > I'm looking for classic Terry Riley concert videos, anything solo where he > plays keyboards. Ideally stuff from the seventies or sixties. There is > nothing on Youtube except for tiny excerpts, but with such excerpts > existing > (e.g. in http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rFgSRi4pMmQ), this could mean that > there are longer videos somewhere. > > -Michael ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Tue Mar 4 23:31:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0EFA13BE7F; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 23:31:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=3fQtZIQvIAynDdnqv5eQo1k8ITnfgdaHT4ntplObao8KymEWv0AoDTQdYqAUuMm49V/BOpKoON+6PEpr0361qtrMKtZmKiDBrS3kHhk37oLDJrM/7lGZpJWaBBDCGZ+IEVFMSRhHTor5ch77y7GvYDv6AijL9CS6VmMftHyQwmc=; X-YMail-OSG: OGmGshkVM1m8i61sd2O1xeFgNQZ23Up99WkbQyfWUtEiZ2ga6BbRGH_bP.BToracnw-- Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 15:31:00 -0800 (PST) From: "L.A. Angulo" Subject: Re: qualities of reverb/cool vitage delay units To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <003c01c87de3$ae693dc0$c69efe91@parsick> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <458825.36638.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79086 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 23:31:01 +0000 (UTC) Hey Stephen thanx now we are talkin! I wasn´t luck enough to have gone through all of those great analog and now obscure digital rackmount boxes everybody is looking for now days,so this is why i am curious about them.There is a recent revival of all of this analog echo simulators and i would be interested in knowing if they can sonically replace those units.Ive also heard and read that those first digital units had latency drawbacks when changing patches, heating problems,and offcourse now getting replacement parts for them doesnt make them to attractive to get. So for those who are luck to own or have tried them,which would be the coolest sci-fi rackmount echo reverb delay unit from these ones? which hardware units on the market would replace them,or are they still irreplaceable and worth getting? Korg SDD2000 Sampling delay Roland 501 space echo Roland SRE-555 echo chorus delay Roland SDE 330 Roland SDE1000 Digital delay Roland SDE3000 Digital delay Sony DPS D7 MXR Digital Delay Blue Face Rack mount Ibanez DM 1000 Digital Delay Effects Ibanez DM 1100 Digital Delay Effects Deltalab Effectron II Digital Delay DIGITECH 3.6 Digital Delay DOD D12 Digital loop delay deltalab adm 2048 super timeline delay Lexicon PCM42 TESLA studio echo - vintage tape delay 70s SPACE Klark Teknik 716 digital delay TC.2290 feel free to add! cheers Luis --- Wavecomputer360 wrote: > Hi Luis, > > the SDE-330 is a very nice-sounding delay with a lot > going for it (I think > the big selling point was it having the 3D > algorithms of the fabled RSS > unit). The bad thing is, it´s not very > straightforward to use, you can tweak > more parametres than you would actually want to > tweak (but nowhere near as > many as on the Sony DPS-D7, though). There´s a lot > of stuff that requires > proper reading, and this is what keeps me from using > it as a simple delay. > Also, some of the more complex delays and some of > the 3D stuff tends to > produce some phase cancellation artefacts which I > find slightly unnerving > because there´s always this type of comb filter > effect on the delays. > Sometimes too many options can be a nightmare, > especially when you just want > a stereo delay that is simple to use... > > The SRV-330 is a very good-sounding reverb processor > with some of the > algorithms of the R-880. Same thing here, you can > tweak yourself to death > but the results are generally worth it. Especially > the chorused reverb > washes sound very nice. I have both units, the > SDE-330 and the SRV-330, in > my live rack. > > Stephen > > ____________________________________________________________________ > > "Ambition makes you look pretty ugly, kicking > squealing Gucci little piggy." > (Thom Yorke/Radiohead -- "Paranoid Android") > > Finally available: Stephen Parsick -- Traces of the > Past Redux, reissued > with three previously unreleased bonus tracks. > > It´s out: [´ramp] & markus reuter -- "ceasing to > exist", a gorgeous dark > ambient album. available through our webshop at > www.doombient.com > > For info and audio, please visit the official > [´ramp] website at > www.doombient.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "L.A. Angulo" > To: > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2008 11:23 PM > Subject: Re: qualities of reverb > > > > Thanx jeff,i was specially interested in the > Roland > > SDE-330, i did read the HC review which is quite > short > > but wanted to hear it from loopers.I am also > > interested in new units that have the shimmer > synth > > like effect like the old digitech dhp units ( i > > thinkthe edge uses one)and i believe they had up > to a > > 5 part harmony,do any of the new units(except > > eventide)have that cool effect? > > cheers > > Luis > > > > > > > > --- Jeff Duke wrote: > > > > > Harmony Central is always good ; > > > > > > > > > http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Effects/product/Roland/SDE-330+Dimensional+Space+Delay/10/1 > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/2ohnt8 > > > > > > I just googled it. > > > > > > > > > http://www.google.com/search?q=Roland+SDE+space+delay+&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GWYE > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/2q2puz > > > > > > > > > > > > peace > > > Jeff > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "L.A. Angulo" > > > To: "Loopers Delight" > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 5:45 AM > > > Subject: Re: qualities of reverb > > > > > > > > > > what about the old Roland SDE space delay and > korg > > > > proccessors,there were so many different > models > > > > anybody has experience with those units or a > > > website > > > > where i can read about them? > > > > Luis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- Tilmann Dehnhard > wrote: > > > > > > > >> yes, i also remember that reverb... > > > >> it was looooooooooooooooooooooooong... > > > >> > > > >> tilmann > > > >> > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > > >> From: "Rick Walker" > > > >> To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" > > > >> > > > >> Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 12:54 PM > > > >> Subject: RE: qualities of reverb > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Duncan Goddard mentioned a trick with his > > > trusty > > > >> microverb: > > > >> > > > > >> > Which reminded me: > > > >> > > > > >> > The Alesis Midverb 2 had an infinite reverb > in > > > it > > > >> that was just amazing. > > > >> > (patch #32 if memory serves) > > > >> > > > > >> > Eventually I had to upgrade my reverbs > (with > > > more > > > >> Alesis and finally > > > >> > Lexicons) > > > >> > but I have never heard an infinite reverb > > > setting > > > >> that was so musical as > > > >> > that > > > >> > old archaic unit. One of my favorite > tricks > > > when > > > >> I was first doing lop > > > >> > > > > >> > The rest of the verbs were pretty pathetic, > > > >> unfortuanately and the Alesis > > > >> > gear > > > >> > just doesn't seem to last very long. > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ > ________ > > > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home > page. > > > > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: > 269.21.3/1306 - > > > Release Date: 3/1/2008 > > > > 5:41 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > === message truncated === www.myspace.com/luisangulocom ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 5 00:13:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C4A9B3BE7F; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 00:13:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=tv48AP/0Jf7+atRR0W9SuWiWYSyoo7joJLySHSrvA6A=; b=MGzPFhbpZ0vl3BCHWvL4IBlqWUEmV5lc9SwAeuI3dGNYioX+pAMjTzrT1NR7DKuPfwH+p5qwsC8cU1J2s9OX3ek6i2VcAQ5r8WN+jhMTNUqGg5lNjMCZPQdH0wLZ+URtvpt2GiiuqYy/G5gFl6e5hS7LUdsj1JmbDYQOzFnTVwQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=UIZfeSv8JKtFy/XmHeyCccQorTPqZvOcwxagXtWpas9/NCA6qEXlonauEcV3LIdY/ldeg8ms7CwU7/C89VtY5YCLVPvSNEg+G4Fkys/8TAkySyJ/295Ym9ZwwXHYk8/cjz0eHQK8rtxj1W7fZBb9rwQF95Xnem0lZsjgNaMPUWY= Message-ID: <588ce11d0803041613l4650df97n7f883c09f5bf8fa7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 16:13:13 -0800 From: "Art Simon" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Terry Riley videos? In-Reply-To: <231363.80767.qm@web52411.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <231363.80767.qm@web52411.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79087 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 00:13:20 +0000 (UTC) I love "Shri Camel" and "All Night Flight!" I'd add the very different "You're no good" to the list as well. It anticipates a lot of modern remix techniques (sometimes a bit awkwardly) with tape splicing. >From the All Music Guide: http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=3Damg&sql=3D= 43:118118 "the title cut, You're No Good, that's the shocker. Possibly taking a cue from Steve Reich's mid-'60s tape pieces Come Out and It's Gonna Rain, Riley sought to combine a popular music form, in this case of the Motown variety, with ideas on phasing and out-of-sync iterations. The work begins with several minutes of rumbling, harsh electronic tones; already the listener is thinking that this is unlike any previous and/or typical Riley fare. Suddenly, it erupts into a funky, funny soul tune with a female vocalist bemoaning the unbecoming qualities of her lover. This goes on for a few minutes more, very enjoyable in its clunky, maybe a bit na=EFve, way until Riley starts messing around with the tape, double-tracking it at various points, producing a very unsettling sense. Additionally, this is done with enormous (and appealing) crudity and sheer messiness, obviously the result of "hands-on" tape splicing; no slickness here. Sometimes a channel drops out entirely for a few seconds only to burst back in jarring fashion. Toward the end of the composition (which, though it occupies the entire first disc, is only about 20 minutes long), Riley introduces blooping sine tones that further heighten the sense of the bizarre, as though the poor song had been mercilessly submerged in some distant sonic universe." --=20 Art Simon simart@null.net art.simon.tripod.com myspace [dot] com/artsimon From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 5 00:42:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 36E013BE87; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 00:42:40 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=CTWL0XiJge9bBxVT/BJuENlqbSvx97H8tbExCh2AWF03s0Xe4yhKvK5aTlwAbeJWauE5EXWtEpWfDiAjV0geBQ54XSF5Z+vdvB4N+SKa2Y3bZGS1dK2l1QNxkNwOxUsqUOVP1OP3wGBXmnlBCMMZyYiKc8qvNwDYXwq98nnCxZ8=; X-YMail-OSG: 4152sJEVM1mGkMve123.pxpescDngY55Q3Muh4atyigvOdUTU1PIhpUYYIKim6YOdAajlOAgrB3ia9JgrkAYWUO191hepS4kBIxU2ageHFsQ9jw80oQVnsU1j5EsYLP3MCiaC3vZCBdqmeY- X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/902.35 YahooMailWebService/0.7.162 Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 16:42:38 -0800 (PST) From: Guy Joyce Subject: Re: Terry Riley videos? To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <699156.81497.qm@web52406.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79088 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 00:42:40 +0000 (UTC) Yes, I've heard that. It's good, but not one of my favourite Terrys'.=0A=0A= ----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: Art Simon =0ATo: Loop= ers-Delight@loopers-delight.com=0ASent: Wednesday, March 5, 2008 12:13:13 A= M=0ASubject: Re: Terry Riley videos?=0A=0AI love "Shri Camel" and "All Nigh= t Flight!" I'd add the very different=0A"You're no good" to the list as wel= l. It anticipates a lot of modern=0Aremix techniques (sometimes a bit awkwa= rdly) with tape splicing.=0A=0AFrom the All Music Guide: http://www.allmus= ic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=3Damg&sql=3D43:118118=0A=0A"the title cut, You're No Go= od, that's the shocker. Possibly taking a=0Acue from Steve Reich's mid-'60s= tape pieces Come Out and It's Gonna=0ARain, Riley sought to combine a popu= lar music form, in this case of=0Athe Motown variety, with ideas on phasing= and out-of-sync iterations.=0AThe work begins with several minutes of rumb= ling, harsh electronic=0Atones; already the listener is thinking that this = is unlike any=0Aprevious and/or typical Riley fare. Suddenly, it erupts int= o a funky,=0Afunny soul tune with a female vocalist bemoaning the unbecomin= g=0Aqualities of her lover. This goes on for a few minutes more, very=0Aenj= oyable in its clunky, maybe a bit na=EFve, way until Riley starts=0Amessing= around with the tape, double-tracking it at various points,=0Aproducing a = very unsettling sense. Additionally, this is done with=0Aenormous (and appe= aling) crudity and sheer messiness, obviously the=0Aresult of "hands-on" ta= pe splicing; no slickness here. Sometimes a=0Achannel drops out entirely fo= r a few seconds only to burst back in=0Ajarring fashion. Toward the end of = the composition (which, though it=0Aoccupies the entire first disc, is only= about 20 minutes long), Riley=0Aintroduces blooping sine tones that furthe= r heighten the sense of the=0Abizarre, as though the poor song had been mer= cilessly submerged in=0Asome distant sonic universe."=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A-- = =0AArt Simon=0Asimart@null.net=0Aart.simon.tripod.com=0Amyspace [dot] com/a= rtsimon=0A=0A=0A _____________________________________________________= _______________________________=0ABe a better friend, newshound, and =0Akno= w-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=3D= Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ =0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 5 05:44:30 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A57923BE84; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 05:44:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <47CE3334.2010304@mhorse.com> Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 23:44:20 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14 (Windows/20071210) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: My RPM record References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79089 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 05:44:30 +0000 (UTC) I'm slowly working through the ton of new music posted here this week, but have been giving this a few spins today. You're a sick puppy, Doug! Which is to say I really like this. I'm going to try to review it - and all these other releases too - and I can tell you now it's gonna get a thumbs-up. I can't find the blog post about it, though, the Uncle Dig website seems more a collection of gear reviews by different people. Canya tell us where exactly to find your text? Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Hi loopers! > > Been away and busy a lot lately, so I've got some catching up to do. > In the meantime I thought I'd offer up my RPM Challenge record > (http://www.rpmchallenge.com if you want to know more about the > challenge). Written and recorded in the first 26 days of Feb 2008. > > I wrote a blog post about it here: http://www.uncledig.com/ > > or you can go straight for the goods, here: > > http://www.uncledig.com/RPM08final/uncledig_bittersweet_drive.zip > > While this is not a "looping" record per se, there are quite a bit of > Mobius and EDP looping bits involved. If you just want to hear > something that's very loop-based, the last track "Division Of Natural > Light" is done with lots of Mobius rate shifting of short guitar > loops. > > Hope you enjoy! Thanks in advance for listening. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 5 06:33:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F2B5F3BE7F; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 06:33:58 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=Jbo86GViU2s6YXAMj3qUbYpqoVp3yhrlhIEff3YXEWI=; b=KV4+CoK8fv6bhCYgmE/HLEqNBUZ9RfVWCWgxjcmNoGQ0emU/13xDZsXHlieatl/9gqjQDekiv+rRwPZDjxa01STrB9fYXLb9B5i19XlpmFrhP4IYjRJPcNqb3ay+PS7W3lsF7jZQ0BL0VhGRwjXSxvjbTvBvg+hbXxAuekUw/Ec= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=pbcsJ8YfB4xVCvsik7qXQvvQz3PweSsv1bgCgIaKDGWOxHtysFqTHr9QrVvI0Knvry1fA3qBNP1Gzdf5wgjlk+5693Iq74O1laUpj7qEwznfiYEx80KFx+qMq3ZONn/rmEBHvqALIyfrQiaWpersnyjjJRKKHrmwnwytX98nF4Q= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0803042233o53368c05i12bcae45ce7a709e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 07:33:57 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: qualities of reverb/cool vitage delay units In-Reply-To: <458825.36638.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <003c01c87de3$ae693dc0$c69efe91@parsick> <458825.36638.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79090 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 06:33:58 +0000 (UTC) HI, Since this thread turned into listing hardware reverb units I can add the rack mountable Yamaha R-1000, which I once owned for a couple of years. I never liked the sound, but back in those days there wasn't much choice. It added too much hiss for my taste. Since it was a mono reverb it suited perfectly to us in the effect chain of my Gallien & Krueger 2x50w stereo guitar amp combo. The reverb also boosted this nice little guitar combo to give a better sounding overdrive. For studio recordings I often cabled it into a mixer loop and used one of those yellow MXR Stereo Chorus pedals for the reverb return, to give it some wide stereo and pitch wobbling character. I made it sound much better by rolling off treble (oh that horrible hiss...) and using a reverb loop (sending the reverb return back into the unit). I would not recommend the R-1000 and actually gave it away for free to a guy that said he liked it. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 12:31 AM, L.A. Angulo wrote: > > Korg SDD2000 Sampling delay > Roland 501 space echo > Roland SRE-555 echo chorus delay > Roland SDE 330 > Roland SDE1000 Digital delay > Roland SDE3000 Digital delay > Sony DPS D7 > MXR Digital Delay Blue Face Rack mount > Ibanez DM 1000 Digital Delay Effects > Ibanez DM 1100 Digital Delay Effects > Deltalab Effectron II Digital Delay > DIGITECH 3.6 Digital Delay > DOD D12 Digital loop delay > deltalab adm 2048 super timeline delay > Lexicon PCM42 > TESLA studio echo - vintage tape delay 70s SPACE > Klark Teknik 716 digital delay > TC.2290 > feel free to add! > > cheers > Luis From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 5 07:37:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5F5413BE82; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 07:37:14 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: "'L.A. Angulo'" , References: <458825.36638.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: RE: qualities of reverb/cool vitage delay units Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 23:37:15 -0800 Message-ID: <000001c87e93$bbf75520$6601a8c0@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Ach+bHPo2SSeuzRORJO/T6t5QxPNNwAI0mjQ In-Reply-To: <458825.36638.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79091 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 07:37:14 +0000 (UTC) "are they still irreplaceable and worth Getting" The answer I believe is no. There are still some very good delay and reverb units available from TC, lexicon, Eventide and Roland. I have a very inexpensive TC G-Sharp that does great sounding delays and reverbs, and has lots of knobs for tweaking as well as storage for presets. The new TC Nova delay and reverb, are outstanding floor pedals that have studio quality sounds and really cool interfaces. The Eventide Timefactor is one of the greatest delays I've ever tried. I think I actually drooled on one at the NAMM show. I've owned several delays on that list including the Korg SDD, The roland SDE 100 and 3000 units, and MXR delay, a delta lab effectron, and an Ibanez DM1000 and I must say my cheap TC G sharp blows them all away in sound quality and flexibility, hell, my Keeley modded Line 6 DL-4 sounds better and has a wider range of cool delays than many of those old machines. As for the shimmer effect, you can get that out of one of the new Digitech expression factory pedal, as well as whammy effects, without the noise that earlier whammy pedals exhibit. Also check out the new Roland space echo pedal, which does great simulations of old Roland tape echo units. There are just a lot of cool delays available now days though the trend has been away from rack mounts and on to the floor. Unless you feel sentimental about vintage gear, I just don't see the need to search for the older rack gear. Even the vaunted TC 2290 can be sonically replicated, the new nova delay sounds that good. Bill From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 5 11:33:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 622223BE7F; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 11:33:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=n3QeqGdlL7AmtBrfZOZ5E+ApIBuxT0vmrrorbn8kvnGwmcxb2MDzbk3nb3uYVXdKZ02DncNXSfdUO1qEAx51aJmctySdRO+jTt6sqzvKFbF4cslkww6AIKrKzAaZlN5qRJkt8t/BBv4nSKyIwAB+tkTGJ9eFetKd/Pr6gIAQoB4= ; X-YMail-OSG: CyClk1cVM1kGHw_ws3OJFB6CRTiETPi70Alzhpon9hKZrYXgox2l8.bsZQK6JVyCX.y6gKZAz.cLhCNwC7NC6F.oprB95tChgF1vCJu.wcIgOpWv X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) In-Reply-To: <1204648596.47cd7a9496d0e@webmail.musetrap.com> References: <000101c87df7$8fcf22d0$0201a8c0@succubus> <1204648596.47cd7a9496d0e@webmail.musetrap.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <65472342-CF09-4AD5-B1C0-1EB01622AD57@btinternet.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Matt Stevens Subject: http://www.yoavmusic.com/ Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 11:33:01 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79092 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 11:33:07 +0000 (UTC) Hey Have you guys heard of yoav? Looks like hes going to be the act that takes looping into the mainstream, very commercial acoustic looper and he has got voice. Matt Stevens www.mattstevensguitar.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 5 12:00:08 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 245F03BE80; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 12:00:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=rSSKt8r27zFHv8BennsCfngknhxQOMJpvVTrHBzWrsI=; b=wS72HvmFk+lBa6No/bEpnWzWs0WED56gcHOjDnETWhFL1oe/eyLp1VIULQi1hh3JxFBeO7MKkDT7RJtn3kyOS6A92zlEkz5jlDAjl22E6jcrSWDwUp63z9jptSn97DsvNllOAwKdXOBb2IWRyxyVpXkf1HONBlk+LRAkqoXwJ5g= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=qSCQnO1sRclV/BDBDpZJI+KTzv7jCN2fCS0dLgk8giQFeshYVpWWoEEt64CnCeQz2RJvf3PKKwFsfbKtWBtGN53RdCBwlU7/BaJDRT5DkrnYUlS/4Zv0uk/N7Bupt+KMRQy1yk5slvte73Ok86CuTpChc8QBodC8fOLXD3Auj/Q= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0803050400m33d99750pdb729afb15db4d07@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 13:00:04 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: http://www.yoavmusic.com/ In-Reply-To: <65472342-CF09-4AD5-B1C0-1EB01622AD57@btinternet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <000101c87df7$8fcf22d0$0201a8c0@succubus> <1204648596.47cd7a9496d0e@webmail.musetrap.com> <65472342-CF09-4AD5-B1C0-1EB01622AD57@btinternet.com> Resent-Message-ID: <5sRJx.A.5DB.HtozHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79093 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 12:00:07 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Matt Stevens wrote: > Hey > > Have you guys heard of yoav? Looks like hes going to be the act that > takes looping into the mainstream, very commercial acoustic looper > and he has got voice. I'm not so sure he will take looping into the mainstream. The reason is that he is using looping "as a recorder" rather than "as an instrument" and because of that very few people might realize that he is actually looping. And a phenomenon no one knows about can hardly go mainstream. Even though I'm not a fan of the tradition Yoav follows, it's always interesting to hear people loop in more traditional music - stuff with vocals, lyrics, verse and chorus parts etc. Other players in this field that I like better listening to are Andrew Bird and Caroline Glass. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 5 12:08:30 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9F1D33BE8C; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 12:08:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=jLtLUcHLHXAxaz+/npnUGe/rpKghZLJJMmCavlLHZ6EGAmeRCJchFlAcRPmM5j59/3u4gJntux68kAdFxYipbKDOCaEcx1GjZq+UmVudjw5n06g3TTvIOLiEIJ4tYkD6hMJUyGMFB7UV1fMA4tYEwlmpU7DZ3o6C7PByUPCi0Kg= ; X-YMail-OSG: rQ1mkVIVM1kVHzi_9gdpaf_3Ty27.9Uxe5MSqPJSa0LLsdsCeASNzP9dpdXCS.PZVAY2xRVtke7gSofaAQu4D_gJrTGbN09sjhm3IBYTtYFjHKHc X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0803050400m33d99750pdb729afb15db4d07@mail.gmail.com> References: <000101c87df7$8fcf22d0$0201a8c0@succubus> <1204648596.47cd7a9496d0e@webmail.musetrap.com> <65472342-CF09-4AD5-B1C0-1EB01622AD57@btinternet.com> <66f9cc1e0803050400m33d99750pdb729afb15db4d07@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <5F437F87-56EC-4089-92E8-04F4C1EDB79F@btinternet.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: http://www.yoavmusic.com/ Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 12:08:25 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79094 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 12:08:30 +0000 (UTC) Its kind of a hard thing to explain(looping) - but if people see this guy on TV it may change things and as all the sounds on his record are created by banging and playing one guitar MS On 5 Mar 2008, at 12:00, Per Boysen wrote: > On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Matt Stevens > wrote: >> Hey >> >> Have you guys heard of yoav? Looks like hes going to be the act that >> takes looping into the mainstream, very commercial acoustic looper >> and he has got voice. > > > I'm not so sure he will take looping into the mainstream. The reason > is that he is using looping "as a recorder" rather than "as an > instrument" and because of that very few people might realize that he > is actually looping. And a phenomenon no one knows about can hardly go > mainstream. > > Even though I'm not a fan of the tradition Yoav follows, it's always > interesting to hear people loop in more traditional music - stuff with > vocals, lyrics, verse and chorus parts etc. Other players in this > field that I like better listening to are Andrew Bird and Caroline > Glass. > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 5 12:13:48 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 172643BE8C; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 12:13:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=W+YFoYab2+9GEqMYxnUP2scCkkD68hGF94Qyzqn0aJw=; b=uK2fNnwjUx/vzVHae1tJXYWqViaWsAI7OOlNuBcugj/1GgF2nDYh1Ku7MLyyKQLpsjmyL40sIhll3vpohAPaps5OUZGI0+1PO5wvr2h/lTHozbLyz/zWeFYlKsGh9niwDqCqbC9w5D6x+Qp35j/Tt68YOd5q+969mr7aLyvaBNM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=ueTXFukimzxlUiChnsj11kjTtzrFvAQVPqYdjqbrS44hZVy69s2gN/bkLfgeVkQJyj8iM9FqCeypdVOEYbudQhvyu5Mh8TUOfB8Je7mgInFuD6XqugoOWZUPo9NIaqxzMYfBv/rez8Fir8HVRstqqrjKQ2VZHdEjVujfFti7hDI= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0803050413m41f7c27bs2b5d3cbd4a015aa4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 13:13:46 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: http://www.yoavmusic.com/ In-Reply-To: <5F437F87-56EC-4089-92E8-04F4C1EDB79F@btinternet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <000101c87df7$8fcf22d0$0201a8c0@succubus> <1204648596.47cd7a9496d0e@webmail.musetrap.com> <65472342-CF09-4AD5-B1C0-1EB01622AD57@btinternet.com> <66f9cc1e0803050400m33d99750pdb729afb15db4d07@mail.gmail.com> <5F437F87-56EC-4089-92E8-04F4C1EDB79F@btinternet.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79095 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 12:13:47 +0000 (UTC) I suspect most fans of his are more interested in his music than whatever method he uses to capture the sounds making up his music ;-) (nothing bad with that) Per On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 1:08 PM, Matt Stevens wrote: > Its kind of a hard thing to explain(looping) - but if people see this > guy on TV it may change things and as all the sounds on his record > are created by banging and playing one guitar > > MS > > > > On 5 Mar 2008, at 12:00, Per Boysen wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Matt Stevens > > wrote: > >> Hey > >> > >> Have you guys heard of yoav? Looks like hes going to be the act that > >> takes looping into the mainstream, very commercial acoustic looper > >> and he has got voice. > > > > > > I'm not so sure he will take looping into the mainstream. The reason > > is that he is using looping "as a recorder" rather than "as an > > instrument" and because of that very few people might realize that he > > is actually looping. And a phenomenon no one knows about can hardly go > > mainstream. > > > > Even though I'm not a fan of the tradition Yoav follows, it's always > > interesting to hear people loop in more traditional music - stuff with > > vocals, lyrics, verse and chorus parts etc. Other players in this > > field that I like better listening to are Andrew Bird and Caroline > > Glass. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 5 12:26:31 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1AD573BE88; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 12:26:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=qHBDU+BSSASdpfa9H9F4GVM8lLTGZh8tvI3DjWrTolxOfU1DZBmMJUFpVH1T6MpB/kyDW31rT92wGr3yoU2HJG+cDkQaFznc+LDJaEyIwDxrBEdFm09OBHgHACby+Q/OV8FbwaBq996Eg8+jUANgJelkblT0CzrKZvOlz2GqhAc= ; X-YMail-OSG: iyj00QsVM1kP2abWgC.gyG921rU.cVpvbEWsXvAw_cjn0KG1rnChivEy2Q71l4YRw_ZiOrMfow-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0803050413m41f7c27bs2b5d3cbd4a015aa4@mail.gmail.com> References: <000101c87df7$8fcf22d0$0201a8c0@succubus> <1204648596.47cd7a9496d0e@webmail.musetrap.com> <65472342-CF09-4AD5-B1C0-1EB01622AD57@btinternet.com> <66f9cc1e0803050400m33d99750pdb729afb15db4d07@mail.gmail.com> <5F437F87-56EC-4089-92E8-04F4C1EDB79F@btinternet.com> <66f9cc1e0803050413m41f7c27bs2b5d3cbd4a015aa4@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Matt Stevens Subject: Re: http://www.yoavmusic.com/ Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 12:26:26 +0000 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79096 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 12:26:30 +0000 (UTC) Probably Per - might be similar to "the Tunstall effect" :-) On 5 Mar 2008, at 12:13, Per Boysen wrote: > I suspect most fans of his are more interested in his music than > whatever method he uses to capture the sounds making up his music ;-) > (nothing bad with that) > > Per > > > On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 1:08 PM, Matt Stevens > wrote: >> Its kind of a hard thing to explain(looping) - but if people see this >> guy on TV it may change things and as all the sounds on his record >> are created by banging and playing one guitar >> >> MS >> >> >> >> On 5 Mar 2008, at 12:00, Per Boysen wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Matt Stevens >>> wrote: >>>> Hey >>>> >>>> Have you guys heard of yoav? Looks like hes going to be the act >>>> that >>>> takes looping into the mainstream, very commercial acoustic looper >>>> and he has got voice. >>> >>> >>> I'm not so sure he will take looping into the mainstream. The reason >>> is that he is using looping "as a recorder" rather than "as an >>> instrument" and because of that very few people might realize >>> that he >>> is actually looping. And a phenomenon no one knows about can >>> hardly go >>> mainstream. >>> >>> Even though I'm not a fan of the tradition Yoav follows, it's always >>> interesting to hear people loop in more traditional music - stuff >>> with >>> vocals, lyrics, verse and chorus parts etc. Other players in this >>> field that I like better listening to are Andrew Bird and Caroline >>> Glass. > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 5 13:08:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E76073BE8A; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 13:08:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at cavesofice.org Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 08:05:56 -0500 (EST) From: burnett@pobox.com X-X-Sender: badger@giggles.cavesofice.org To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: [LOOP] http://www.yoavmusic.com/ In-Reply-To: <65472342-CF09-4AD5-B1C0-1EB01622AD57@btinternet.com> Message-ID: References: <000101c87df7$8fcf22d0$0201a8c0@succubus> <1204648596.47cd7a9496d0e@webmail.musetrap.com> <65472342-CF09-4AD5-B1C0-1EB01622AD57@btinternet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79097 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 13:08:39 +0000 (UTC) On Wed, 5 Mar 2008, Matt Stevens wrote: > Have you guys heard of yoav? Looks like hes going to be the act that takes > looping into the mainstream, very commercial acoustic looper and he has got > voice. > > Matt Stevens > www.mattstevensguitar.com I saw Yoav perform last November when he was the opening act for Tori Amos's fall 2007 US tour. Pretty clear to even the people with me that he was live looping. Nice cover of the Pixies' "Where is My Mind". best, Steve B Subscape Annex http://www.subscapeannex.com/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 5 14:28:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E6A753BE8D; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 14:28:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=ZMigS0XhJGmWCuj7FqhAmwSK9uv3SW1xPROxg9myOxY=; b=dzGN2nhsss4W+Ua6g2uKR6oBoMeiVTk6LdACltwU9vNID2nR2uTGfP1pKUxrlR0f6QIcJ8GLzE2O2GoWNMRC3Pnup8vZIaiwvjLSgHlvmbQUG3eaIkTw057/lO7RNNVDflTAoM/hOJ962gpGcKTqF/BauoIaPy/A/ilII/qfCFY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=w0d7BQBmgOve5oGXW0WAAY9UW3O5TV2YBYqrfd7bkBliV1Hv0bdCEdkzYjSz8UnCQnnC13tn7RvMbjEOBhwlHk8ayqkVSdJXD9UFsf0+q2WQYmm2PB3f+Z/ZUYoxn+Wm+iVQkx/p5/P2tSWEpFQn0prUHc+KrcLOf2lPrdPp8nc= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 08:28:15 -0600 From: "Doug Cox" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: My RPM record In-Reply-To: <47CE3334.2010304@mhorse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <47CE3334.2010304@mhorse.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79098 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 14:28:22 +0000 (UTC) Daryl, Thanks so much! I am kind of a sick puppy. :blush: I apologize - I gave the link to my gear clips site. The link to my blog that says a little more about the record is here: http://www.uncledig.com/blog/ and in the spirit of requested spam :) you can also look at http://www.virb.com/uncledig/ I haven't said a lot about process in either of those places, so if you're interested in that please give me a shout offline and we can discuss without being too off topic here. Sincere thanks again, Daryl. Doug On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 11:44 PM, Daryl Shawn wrote: > I'm slowly working through the ton of new music posted here this week, > but have been giving this a few spins today. You're a sick puppy, Doug! > Which is to say I really like this. I'm going to try to review it - and > all these other releases too - and I can tell you now it's gonna get a > thumbs-up. > > I can't find the blog post about it, though, the Uncle Dig website seems > more a collection of gear reviews by different people. Canya tell us > where exactly to find your text? > > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > > > Hi loopers! > > > > Been away and busy a lot lately, so I've got some catching up to do. > > In the meantime I thought I'd offer up my RPM Challenge record > > (http://www.rpmchallenge.com if you want to know more about the > > challenge). Written and recorded in the first 26 days of Feb 2008. > > > > I wrote a blog post about it here: http://www.uncledig.com/ > > > > or you can go straight for the goods, here: > > > > http://www.uncledig.com/RPM08final/uncledig_bittersweet_drive.zip > > > > While this is not a "looping" record per se, there are quite a bit of > > Mobius and EDP looping bits involved. If you just want to hear > > something that's very loop-based, the last track "Division Of Natural > > Light" is done with lots of Mobius rate shifting of short guitar > > loops. > > > > Hope you enjoy! Thanks in advance for listening. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 5 16:03:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8AD6C3BE7E; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 16:03:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=iaNChfMcYJ43Bq3s780kevigFblB/kRd5K+vF3LRvqtmqBL0f7IcbJSjjUfyHWt0ltNnfdpCvTPg5urW6xOno7QUzQgX9bfFUYjHA4mLlogt58iC2ajjZLmTo5kbKG8dsGdhI5PQNy6/lBoRq8NUra1jTefdnYskPewUfghSIXc=; X-YMail-OSG: gtmJPNsVM1kjSIXm2hg4i1nDswhnPSp7WELumJ_y9uri1EJUtTBihUjnJ1wm.cEccLWR3pbtk03RRjoS9csgWq8OdCGNk4Dz3F3WwDG8EwPrbdtY_zc- Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 08:03:53 -0800 (PST) From: Paul Richards Subject: Re: Alesis Quadraverb To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1887615092-1204733033=:44317" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <334626.44317.qm@web35107.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <-S11ZB.A.CrF.qRszHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79099 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 16:03:54 +0000 (UTC) --0-1887615092-1204733033=:44317 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Yes, I had to purchase one because, silly me, I missed a reference in the eBay auction where I purchased the Alesis unit that it had no power cord. I think it cost me around $30 for the power cord. Paul Randy Holiman wrote: Thanks Paul.... what an odd power cord to begin with....If I knew what the product number was or item number it would be a pretty short exercise, but no such luck. Any info would be much appreciated. Did you end up with one? Thanks, Randy Holiman Ozark, MO 65721 417-425-9281 On 3/5/08, Paul Richards wrote: Hi: I located one a few months ago from an unusual source (it was, I believe, a site called studenta or somesuch. They sold music software et al to universities and students). I will check my old e-mails and let you know. Regards, Paul Randy Holiman wrote: Hey: Sorry to come out of nowhere, but I am baffled by how you find a power cord for the Quadraverb Products. They are evidently all the same and I see you have had the problem I am having. Have you solved the issue? Tell me you know where to find one of these oddball power cords. Again, pardon me for just jumping in on your email. 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Yes, I had to purchase one because, silly me, I missed a reference in the eBay auction where I purchased the Alesis unit that it had no power cord. I think it cost me around $30 for the power cord.
 
Paul

Randy Holiman <holiman.rh@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Paul.... what an odd power cord to begin with....If I knew what the product number was or item number it would be a pretty short exercise, but no such luck.
 
Any info would be much appreciated.  Did you end up with one?
 
Thanks,
 
Randy Holiman
Ozark, MO  65721
417-425-9281

 
On 3/5/08, Paul Richards <paulrichard_rocks@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi:
 
I located one a few months ago from an unusual source (it was, I believe, a site called studenta or somesuch. They sold music software et al to universities and students).  I will check my old e-mails and let you know.
 
Regards, Paul


Randy Holiman <holiman.rh@gmail.com> wrote:
Hey: Sorry to come out of nowhere, but I am baffled by how you find a power cord for the Quadraverb Products.  They are evidently all the same and I see you have had the problem I am having.  Have you solved the issue?  Tell me you know where to find one of these oddball power cords.
 
Again, pardon me for just jumping in on your email.
 
Thanks,
 

Randy Holiman
Holiman & Associates


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Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. --0-1887615092-1204733033=:44317-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 5 16:36:36 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 23A493BE8C; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 16:36:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: From: john floridis To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Subject: Re: http://www.yoavmusic.com/ Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 09:36:32 -0700 References: <000101c87df7$8fcf22d0$0201a8c0@succubus> <1204648596.47cd7a9496d0e@webmail.musetrap.com> <65472342-CF09-4AD5-B1C0-1EB01622AD57@btinternet.com> <66f9cc1e0803050400m33d99750pdb729afb15db4d07@mail.gmail.com> <5F437F87-56EC-4089-92E8-04F4C1EDB79F@btinternet.com> <66f9cc1e0803050413m41f7c27bs2b5d3cbd4a015aa4@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79100 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 16:36:36 +0000 (UTC) Went to Yoav's sight from the link, and normally I hate it when you go to a sight and music just starts up, ala Myspace, but the tune that came up "Each Like the Other One" I believe was the title, I found pretty compelling. Of course it always helps your career, whether you qualify as a true "looping artist" or not, if you look like you could be on the cover of GQ. John From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 5 17:08:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D48FE3BE7F; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 17:08:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <47CED378.9010506@mhorse.com> Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2008 11:08:08 -0600 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14 (Windows/20071210) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: http://www.yoavmusic.com/ References: <000101c87df7$8fcf22d0$0201a8c0@succubus> <1204648596.47cd7a9496d0e@webmail.musetrap.com> <65472342-CF09-4AD5-B1C0-1EB01622AD57@btinternet.com> <66f9cc1e0803050400m33d99750pdb729afb15db4d07@mail.gmail.com> <5F437F87-56EC-4089-92E8-04F4C1EDB79F@btinternet.com> <66f9cc1e0803050413m41f7c27bs2b5d3cbd4a015aa4@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79101 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 17:08:18 +0000 (UTC) I checked out a YouTube live video - which is where I normally go now to check out a new artist, seeing a raw live video really shows what somebody's all about - and the comments are most interesting, people definitely talk about the looping. Here's a typical observation - "Takes a skilled artist to play live loops as opposed to pre-recorded loops". Nice to see that distinction being talked about, at least. I like his songwriting and voice, more interesting for my tastes than, say, K.T. Tunstall. In truth, though, the looping part in his or her music is immaterial to me, I could care less if they had a second guitar player and percussionist or not. I'm interested in looping as a interactive device, as shown by numerous people on this list in compositions which grow and progress, whereas if someone puts an eighth-note delay on a string slap and lets it go through the entire song, it might as well be on a beatbox, to me. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Went to Yoav's sight from the link, and normally I hate it when you go > to a sight and music just starts up, ala Myspace, but the tune that > came up "Each Like the Other One" I believe was the title, I found > pretty compelling. > > Of course it always helps your career, whether you qualify as a true > "looping artist" or not, if you look like you could be on the cover of > GQ. > > John From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Mar 5 17:58:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6E84A3BE8C; Wed, 5 Mar 2008 17:58:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=2+zhk4KDZreLcylAOqMMy6CLRWbChr263kSOCy3I0KV5gMVdUu2bePWL6FKUYug/6LYm3jYqTL8sODbkviCR6AQE4z6yJxKBwiv6i7hRHVAIoRLuxpmGxkOLCdLpdLXGm6ydUv2M8JWBXx2qrJ7ikgVf8qRRwqKNhszpzI9JNqc=; X-YMail-OSG: FdGmUFgVM1kRi_UMGFt4hTfuq3jE.a5uBE0193Lb9Zj.ZIrMaWPsFD1Ae3nsdq4gAEiEw2epPWmurtYlVh0429aztfTq5Of_8tggmE02pk0ujVPe95LPUx.vZglAbw-- Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 09:58:32 -0800 (PST) From: scott hansen Subject: vintage delays: DOD d-12 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20080305170819.7CDDB3BE8F@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1875505859-1204739912=:12408" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <171869.12408.qm@web33101.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <41Hp.A.9G.J9tzHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79102 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 17:58:33 +0000 (UTC) --0-1875505859-1204739912=:12408 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit i'll chime in on the vintage delays, re: dod d12. i had it for a # of years, it was my main looper, bought it for 120$ it was new old stock. i liked it because it reminded me of a budget lexicon pcm42 (see david torn painting w/ guitar vid #2 for reference)-i liked doing the manipulation of short delay to long (gets all stretched out and mulchy) and long to short (gets mangled sounds fun). it had an LFO in it to mangle sound more, not like what the pcm42 can do (square wave stuff, etc), but was a close approximation for not much $. i also liked the 6 sec samples option for quick reversing stuff. worked great. a year and a 1/2 ago i decided to move from rack stuff (took up too much space in my small studio desk)-and went to pedals. i sold it to someone for 80$ i think, looper in WI who was getting back into stuff. i liked it-it was cheap worked well, didn't do everything, it's a delay mostly, and the 12 sec were nice. is it vintage now? wow, it is discontinued yes, whether its something drool worthy i don't know. it was a basic tool that worked pretty well. i think it definitely mulched up sound better than my boss dd20-i'm not too happy with what the dd20 does w/ sound manipulation, but its ok. my 2 cents on that device. if you want to hear some other great analog delay devices-watch the adrian belew video from the 80's-HE HAS A HUGE RACK OF VINTAGE STUFF (NOW)-that he used to great effect. most fun watching that at times. i can't speak for the other devices you mentioned. happy hunting... s--- --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! 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i'll chime in on the vintage delays, re: dod d12.
i had it for a # of years, it was my main looper, bought it for 120$ it was new old stock. i liked it because it reminded me of a budget lexicon pcm42 (see david torn painting w/ guitar vid #2 for reference)-i liked doing the manipulation of short delay to long (gets all stretched out and mulchy) and long to short (gets mangled sounds fun). it had an LFO in it to mangle sound more, not like what the pcm42 can do (square wave stuff, etc), but was a close approximation for not much $. i also liked the 6 sec samples option for quick reversing stuff. worked great.
a year and a 1/2 ago i decided to move from rack stuff (took up too much space in my small studio desk)-and went to pedals. i sold it to someone for 80$ i think, looper in WI who was getting back into stuff.
i liked it-it was cheap worked well, didn't do everything, it's a delay mostly, and the 12 sec were nice.
is it vintage now? wow, it is discontinued yes, whether its something drool worthy  i don't know. it was a basic tool that worked pretty well. i think it definitely mulched up sound better than my boss dd20-i'm not too happy with what the dd20 does w/ sound manipulation, but its ok.
my 2 cents on that device.
if you want to hear some other great analog delay devices-watch the adrian belew video from the 80's-HE HAS  A HUGE RACK OF VINTAGE STUFF (NOW)-that he used to great effect. most fun watching that at times.
i can't speak for the other devices you mentioned.
happy hunting...
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 6 01:17:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A2E273BE7B; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 01:17:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=RPXHWSIOE1Q8BK+91BXWo3bqiRru6qExAg7gck2ViW4=; b=gj7NvtyuIIxEmLiBUw3zw4KkptMw3Juq3BkJY1QM70OgHNCThyeLkOdVYrFq3TQxpvg6ZiVq5k2krmK/YRre1yiwM2FZ+dEeLvI+shgkT1hvkDR3mKQltQjBZl7D8zoGqvhb8X+aUAyomHX1LQAU8BjnjOyoayZhiVQb1eaTmLU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=m65ZZqZa5R78N7o/qHUtfrQAPwIUObrYZWMN5UHToVAIbtlfxEAsT4YatRA35R6XSEItW+S4phIgXmjjnQMGdGXmurEBeJ0J0a6DwZF9MkRAVk2zj5riAHsNBIcxxMLhxaWPGvax1M6mZW89gCTXpOQKfpOg2owq4543VvGoGRI= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 19:17:14 -0600 From: "Doug Cox" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: My RPM record In-Reply-To: <47CEED3A.40706@mhorse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <47CE3334.2010304@mhorse.com> <47CEED3A.40706@mhorse.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79105 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 01:17:16 +0000 (UTC) Oh my. Daryl - that's so very nice of you! The review is very well written, and I agree with everything you said. What a rarity when it comes to reviews. :) My sincere thanks for taking the time to listen closely and to share your thoughts. I feel kind of humbled by it. The RPM challenge was a good exercise for me, as I needed to stop the endless noodling and improv-ing and actually capture some of my ideas. Before it was over, it turned into a minor obsession, and when it was done I was just glad to BE done. I'm so genuinely happy that at least one other person was able to see/hear/feel what I was doing and that it brought you some pleasure. Simply - thank you, Daryl. Doug PS - I'd like to link to the review from my blog. I assume that's ok with you. If there's an issue, please let me know. On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 12:58 PM, Daryl Shawn wrote: > My pleasure. I've posted a full review here: > > http://www.swanwelder.com/mutereactionary/Uncle_Dig.htm > > I'm going to be trying to crank these out more often as I have a backlog > already (Rainer's latest is next, and Nick Robinson's "Birds" project, > followed by other RPM albums) and I know it's nice to get a review > within the same year or release, if not better. > > Doug, let me know if there are any other links (such as the URL of the > zip file) you'd like me to add to the review. > > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com > > > > > Daryl, > > > > Thanks so much! I am kind of a sick puppy. :blush: > > > > I apologize - I gave the link to my gear clips site. 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Blank Check® is a registered trademark of Capital One Services, Inc. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 6 06:09:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5C1F63BE80; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 06:09:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; bh=BRs8CyQZH6aUr1yHITkqvjDidpjiAPAOIX3QVI2TRqE=; b=Iu79tbqWOrHAuXFtikuAzroaecuPLW3UaSv/I2fa8pZ3bDqMUQTyQMdxQjXUYVdwZu9CX2JGVz5erhx7X3FX6gK7+imlt2CRpPFojb22jMN7Oduq3pOULZ+ybtPcOV2zv7Th4rPwwJgxFm4nxaxVWW/A9kk35JQwivxO+D+2NDA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:content-type:message-id:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=GOO1O3YSiWkC3QCdlvZuMRU+9/XCQ98idiPWX2dcrVoZVN1qA0SDPRQq4rClRZudLJyiHGgtojKnW1Z2PlkveWR45rdq8PBBxRXnpvz3CW4In63uUeOV9Nx9qRdCCliMPeLBU4mrkrZJaEAf0CAVRfyVcMz5Y73hH1bMAhnWRIY= Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) In-Reply-To: <000d01c87c5a$f582f3c0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> References: <000d01c87c5a$f582f3c0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Message-Id: <7AAA7642-8F24-4F34-B498-825D5977B506@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: topu lyo Subject: echoplex pasting into another track? Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 01:09:25 -0500 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79106 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 06:09:38 +0000 (UTC) hey everyone was wondering if anyone knows how to cut and paste one track into another track verbatim. currently i'm pressing next track and multiply which pastes it in real time but if i accidentally press record early it cuts my loop short. this is particularly difficult when the loops are really fast.. any help would be amazing!!!! -topu From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 6 06:44:36 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 70DC03BE89; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 06:44:36 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <006b01c87f55$8a40cf30$6401a8c0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: 2nd Annual Boise Experimental Music Festival DVD Set Now Available Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 23:44:17 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0064_01C87F1A.D39FED90" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79107 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 06:44:36 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0064_01C87F1A.D39FED90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2nd Annual Boise Experimental Music Festival (2007) Two Volume DVD Set http://www.boisemusicians.com/BEMF-2/dvd.htm All proceeds go toward supporting this year's festival Sample Video=20 (Lumper-Splitter - "Birth of the Blue Guitar Baby") http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3D-3573187502380633371&hl=3Den Director: Tarey P.=20 Studio: Thee Blue Light Lounge Source sound recordings: Aaron Davis Source audio mastering: Krispen Hartung Volume I Artists Featured Krispen Hartung & Vincent Miresse Craig Green Amy Vecchione Moe! & Z'EV Stefan Smulovitz Ted Killian Rob Price & David Grollman Volume II Artists Featured Krispen Hartung & Lumper-Splitter Stefan Smulovitz & Rick Walker Bob Sterling & Krispen Hartung Rob Price, David Grollman, & Lucio Menegon Breccia Unicorn Feather Patrick Benolkin Jared Hallock Gretchen Jude Margaret Noble & Edyta Stepien Tom Baker & Jesse Canterbury Lumper-Splitter The Transhumans Rick Walker ------=_NextPart_000_0064_01C87F1A.D39FED90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 

2nd=20 Annual Boise Experimental Music Festival (2007)
Two Volume DVD=20 Set

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All proceeds go toward supporting this year's=20 festival

Sample=20 Video
(Lumper-Splitter - "Birth of the Blue Guitar = Baby")
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Director: Tarey P.
Studio:
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Volume = I


Artists Featured
Krispen Hartung & Vincent Miresse
Craig Green
Amy=20 Vecchione
Moe! & Z'EV
Stefan Smulovitz
Ted Killian
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Lumper-Splitter
The Transhumans
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------=_NextPart_000_0064_01C87F1A.D39FED90-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 6 07:08:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C7663BE84; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 07:08:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=1JKxzCOGQdmmIrIrTdSFRAt0CG49MaQ7m3FfzrJeLdY=; b=FRal2feJcvCw/mFpI1ToGCD5eP0JLQJbSZpjIFK8ZfmwQJDZKyy1iYjDwQlZmsgpDQaFabJevcAGEkdaW5cvWWhBOUJowSa5ANoHWSGqdcESzBL8RNHeeF2mfG709qj/+YAgk+3Mr6y1ZxzdEuuaiYGeL5VrnUblXoVQj1+RT/s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=Ubjf/eidr/WHXIl85w4fAac45Z6SjEiKAxCIsdt9kiJAMApAuW53GEyJ45u0XtHkzUZGzq5xlzCwsG0oxNAzShUOJkchWgLRtEpI1gieyBg4RomXZbsaDvNbzNyaRNe0DjoButDY7O9lDAmkFUiv0yO/AE9h6AmtBtu0R5ADiVY= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 08:08:11 +0100 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: echoplex pasting into another track? In-Reply-To: <7AAA7642-8F24-4F34-B498-825D5977B506@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_29533_17547898.1204787291223" References: <000d01c87c5a$f582f3c0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <7AAA7642-8F24-4F34-B498-825D5977B506@gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79108 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 07:08:12 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_29533_17547898.1204787291223 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline next track in echoplex.?. umm are you referring to mobius instead? 2008/3/6, topu lyo : > > hey everyone > > was wondering if anyone knows how to cut and paste > one track into another track verbatim. currently i'm pressing > next track and multiply which pastes it in real time but if > i accidentally press record early it cuts my loop short. this > is particularly difficult when the loops are really fast.. > > any help would be amazing!!!! > > > -topu > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_29533_17547898.1204787291223 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline next track in echoplex.?. umm
are you referring to mobius instead?


2008/3/6, topu lyo <topulyo@gmail.com>:
hey everyone

was wondering if anyone knows how to cut and paste
one track into another track verbatim.  currently i'm pressing
next track and multiply which pastes it in real time but if
i accidentally press record early it cuts my loop short. this
is particularly difficult when the loops are really fast..

any help would be amazing!!!!


-topu




--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_29533_17547898.1204787291223-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 6 07:17:25 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 940343BE7E; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 07:17:25 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=XKtgpwkCn3+3loCvR95NFFQ2fWp/R3gYi8qfe6KaI9Q=; b=mz2KUVhthX5pfHNuwlhPCLhri9PZ5s1O/Mwd8Jbdc9Ea39BQtYbUR159iDFzcKKNybG3OgVb12Jx5Dhs+J9KEYpZeJhqlz3BYBteH6S3VCB/4x/jOicE6K5kn4PkvWYwHCeNBzFLpAvTuPmEyjvYLrloOpv2orVcG4hSmb+a/gc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=LfVrQh6p9GAjMPIfJcCpT1rqmJek88ByXp+jSVwSCF6sg/tb2uaK6i+eoUXT9d4N0zKjYII9uKhs1GsaSCOk03M/5GMSJn78hXIhnHt4b5Cn50u9S1yUDscL5r+qbhzrGMmuynVKMbpqij6qiniRO9dBBatVHwnvVAbvNDULWnw= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0803052317o721f748at757efc7527afba3e@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 08:17:24 +0100 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: echoplex pasting into another track? In-Reply-To: <7AAA7642-8F24-4F34-B498-825D5977B506@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <000d01c87c5a$f582f3c0$fe78a8c0@mpeserver> <7AAA7642-8F24-4F34-B498-825D5977B506@gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <7bT8i.A.eAH.Fq5zHB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/79109 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 07:17:25 +0000 (UTC) On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 7:09 AM, topu lyo wrote: > hey everyone > > was wondering if anyone knows how to cut and paste > one track into another track verbatim. currently i'm pressing > next track and multiply which pastes it in real time but if > i accidentally press record early it cuts my loop short. this > is particularly difficult when the loops are really fast.. > > any help would be amazing!!!! > > -topu If you mean "loop" when you write "track" the answer should be that what you describe (ending Multiply Mode by pressing Record) actually is an intended feature. So if you don't intend to shorten your loop in this non quantized manner you will have to try not pressing Record when in Multiply Mode. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Mar 6 07:23:52 2008 Return-Path: