From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 00:01:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8196C3BF5F; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 00:01:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=P7rE1ytjHZ4A:10 a=Dz07lLuSCtYcD_Qds-gA:9 a=nS90MwNxdYIrNqKm5Ax5Tqc5jQAA:4 a=by2dKgXnggYA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <697303AE-BF86-4C00-8184-A7C8E634E56B@zoekeating.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: info at zoekeating Subject: cello for airports...tomorrow at SFO Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:00:57 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82412 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 00:01:04 +0000 (UTC) hey everyone, i'm playing a 3 hour gig tomorrow at SFO. i'm calling it "cello for airports" as an homage to the best airport music ever written. mine won't be nearly as good, but in addition to my old fan favorites, i do plan on making some appropriate cello ambiance with the goal of making everyone less stressed. the concert is pre-security, in the mezzanine of terminal 1 at the San Francisco Airport. 11am to 2pm Fridays, August 1st, 15th & 29th (can i call this a "residency" at the airport?) besides my fondness for unusual gigs, since i've had so many bad airport experiences, i'm hoping this concert series will even out the karmic balance between me and the TSA. hope they can hear! bestestly, zoe From royalerranddeliveryltdng11@gmail.com Fri Aug 1 04:47:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 397 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 04:47:25 UTC Received: from email1.nuxit.net (email1.nuxit.net [195.114.18.79]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id A7AE93BF55 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 04:47:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 11800 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2008 04:40:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mutu3.nuxit.net) (192.168.3.20) by email1.nuxit.net with SMTP; 1 Aug 2008 04:40:44 -0000 To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: YOUR HONESTY PAYMENT From: DR SAMUEL SODEH. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 04:58:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4073B3BF59; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 04:58:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=zNCPf6OFnM+3zNvZWTKY81Vk3BvTfuhJtmcgTJujLBo=; b=nvnWnQfSrPI8GqeavjWXIZoGUJRULKRulnY/sbVqmMMPn5Hj9BRJNRIt4XwIlIl8TJ 5AINholeIDd6SLm89cOGbNouW43e9vXo/Pfz2DUgL/KvbMIoKsjU9LeyvUCVzwc5ET4n VlyCPfsQ+sCvEYfYZmSQAZpwt7GMScwBBH0eE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=RaDePsgYWDdbNmJuDJZ+/Wf+kzZ7kwctvQXuayPNkWy7n6guFjdnDi1bGbKeFfKvx5 a0CT76+byLlXpDHDusfqYwhMf+ay1EvP+yHCvdJTu8vKMuBOwsHcTH+2OpMcDC7sB330 i+tv1JkP/NxGq+ZsoRHD4Nx6zSuq4uC7w+B4s= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 00:58:17 -0400 From: "Aaron Austin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Echoplex Digital Pro Plus In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0807311655k32e95871wc9a13ba157f6fa7d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2090_3653607.1217566697055" References: <9ab0c76f0807311655k32e95871wc9a13ba157f6fa7d@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82413 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 04:58:18 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_2090_3653607.1217566697055 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Will This pedal work you guys and eliminate my dust problem??? http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Rolls-MP128-MIDI-Buddy-Pedal?sku=701180 On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:55 PM, mark francombe wrote: > The ubiquitous Behringer FCB1010 to name but one... Its cheap, but maybe if > it had an understandable manual it would cost alot more! Buy one and join a > forum! It cant do much without anguish, but it controls the edp just fine.. > thank you very much! > > .m.x > > On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 11:26 PM, Aaron Austin wrote: > >> Are there alternate foot controllers for the edp because the one it comes >> with constantly gets dirt and dust and NEVER WORKS PROPERLY IT SUCKS !!!! >> > > > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > www.looop.no > ------=_Part_2090_3653607.1217566697055 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Will This pedal work you guys and eliminate my dust problem???

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Rolls-MP128-MIDI-Buddy-Pedal?sku=701180

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:55 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
The ubiquitous Behringer FCB1010 to name but one... Its cheap, but maybe if it had an understandable manual it would cost alot more! Buy one and join a forum! It cant do much without anguish, but it controls the edp just fine.. thank you very much!

.m.x

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 11:26 PM, Aaron Austin <aaronaustin88@gmail.com> wrote:
Are there alternate foot controllers for the edp because the one it comes with constantly gets dirt and dust and NEVER WORKS PROPERLY IT SUCKS !!!! 



--
www.markfrancombe.com
www.looop.no

------=_Part_2090_3653607.1217566697055-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 05:24:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2D16B3BF5A; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 05:24:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=EhMOCcR9keXjkQCMlfMiHlh7sSnKyO3M4d7Sh1r6BZ0=; b=oePvAFEX+6VRW7jyqh/Y4e2/F+LacBilLwae3BUhpZHvGX4fHpjg+hRk+umSuIgsIG vb9ycnUSzlXIQqBHKGdqn1/+S7C3c8qE3hIYlKMh/F0wMEy9Hyb6xsMOS+5I1QguxnPA vkukPUoaqqkKHoPR54OMUmNdFxhnm7R9zy1Rc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=khh0oZg7uyX9owSJO0K8Xu5ZEZpUEOcbu95kx6pp1Qd6XJnUGSjuAmgWzeBt3BPA5m 1QlsFm/ld5eLBIt7/CjoLnZkDw0HS/dew1Syw8zo0LhMfeqTANjsc0CsG39f3mef3uov UW1fsPhi5iI04fraNkLdDsGqIZ7F3WB1WyTUo= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 22:24:02 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Echoplex Digital Pro Plus In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2402_11853982.1217568242348" References: <9ab0c76f0807311655k32e95871wc9a13ba157f6fa7d@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82414 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 05:24:03 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_2402_11853982.1217568242348 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline The MIDI Buddy can't send the right sort of MIDI commands to control an EDP. The Behringer can. On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 9:58 PM, Aaron Austin wrote: > Will This pedal work you guys and eliminate my dust problem??? > > > http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Rolls-MP128-MIDI-Buddy-Pedal?sku=701180 > > > ------=_Part_2402_11853982.1217568242348 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
The MIDI Buddy can't send the right sort of MIDI commands to control an EDP.  The Behringer can.

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 9:58 PM, Aaron Austin <aaronaustin88@gmail.com> wrote:
Will This pedal work you guys and eliminate my dust problem???

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Rolls-MP128-MIDI-Buddy-Pedal?sku=701180



------=_Part_2402_11853982.1217568242348-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 06:18:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9933E3BF62; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 06:18:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 52101490/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.231.202 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.231.202 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhQCAE1GkkhPTufK/2dsb2JhbAAIinUjpTaDUQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,290,1215385200"; d="scan'208";a="52101490" Message-ID: <4892AAA7.90701@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 07:18:15 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Echoplex Digital Pro Plus References: <9ab0c76f0807311655k32e95871wc9a13ba157f6fa7d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0807311655k32e95871wc9a13ba157f6fa7d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82415 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 06:18:09 +0000 (UTC) Be careful, to work the EDP you need a a footcontroller with switches that either a) send Midi-On/Off b) send CC with the ability to send a second CC on release of the switch Mark's suggestion of the FCB1010 is what most use, it's cheap, but sturdily built (and the manual's ok if you have plenty of patience ;-) There's also a Roland device that some people use (....anybody here???) Don't try the Yamaha MFC ....too much delay in sending commands. andy butler mark francombe wrote: > The ubiquitous Behringer FCB1010 to name but one... Its cheap, but maybe > if it had an understandable manual it would cost alot more! Buy one and > join a forum! It cant do much without anguish, but it controls the edp > just fine.. thank you very much! > > .m.x > > On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 11:26 PM, Aaron Austin > wrote: > > Are there alternate foot controllers for the edp because the one it > comes with constantly gets dirt and dust and NEVER WORKS PROPERLY IT > SUCKS !!!! > > > > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > www.looop.no From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 06:33:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2576F3BF50; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 06:33:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <000e01c8f3a0$85edf2e0$5901a8c0@bobdell> From: "Bob Amstadt" To: References: <9ab0c76f0807311655k32e95871wc9a13ba157f6fa7d@mail.gmail.com> <4892AAA7.90701@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: MIDI foot controllers (was: Echoplex Digital Pro Plus) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:33:34 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82416 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 06:33:37 +0000 (UTC) The Gordius Little Giant is amazingly programmable. I haven't tried to use it with an EDP, but it is an amazing device and much smaller than the FCB1010. If you want to build your own MIDI controller, there is excellent information here: http://www.ucapps.de/ Bob Amstadt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 07:46:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E35AE3BF63; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 07:46:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 08:46:04 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Re: Echoplex Digital Pro Plus MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 217.68.49.65 X-DCC--Metrics: hel; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82417 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 07:46:06 +0000 (UTC) > There's also a Roland device that some people use (....anybody here???)= Yep, the older FC-2000 and the latest model is the FC-300. Each pedal can= be programmed as follows: - Type of midi message: CC but you can also send other type of midi data - Range: This sets the range for values that are transmitted (minimum + m= aximum value) - Mode: * Latch =3D The ON and OFF will alternate each time you press the pedal * Momentary =3D The value will be ON while you press the pedal, and OFF w= hen you release the pedal. - Amp control jack 1 + 2 Btw: I haven't used it with an EDP ;) --- Sjaak http://www.livelooping.be/ http://www.overgaauw.be/ http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 07:59:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BB7A33BF69; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 07:59:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:mime-version:content-type:x-google-sender-auth; bh=s0sIO+8c6xatUqWYzWfVjgm91aGSbKEbdF9Y+39d7Fc=; b=jZlttS3LixKBuf8KDvUsc5tz7/8rFKqBBEwPA6J7YiKoR3SoGClfzN6GnM4vj48Ca3 gDazcplBRyyQpDw1bNbd447TKt1+nv7IcXRI7FGBc5LxSFBqawKWuH1vi57GyzkIXt0F hroWFIZG4wuQtim5JdsJQ9KDgSNTOMEuyKegI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :x-google-sender-auth; b=ftqFwQaiFEv2jXkMpHSNnT1rSUajG3g6s/zsH9keSl6XhpDurJMRLFOn/CzyycO+Wt 66lD5F+JXg11JgDyUb1LZCEjLd5CzWTnHcnUkwWDXDXDIWME/lLlx/+AxbKFsejHAI5A pa+uIpi+DlUPG8nsTxwHjO7AXc1CyoE68yS1k= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0808010059vcc304e0p2dabba233539763c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:59:20 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Echoplex Digital Pro Plus + Behringer pedal...zee final word... I sink not Mr Bond.. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1783_16404561.1217577560698" X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7e172c53b04eba9f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82418 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 07:59:22 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_1783_16404561.1217577560698 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I'll just third my own vote for the Behringer. There has been ALOT of discussion about it (and other progamable pedals) on this list. Everyone complains about the Behringer, (it IS too big... its IS a little clunky to program - but actually pretty easy when you "geddit" - the hard bit is always trawling through manuals finding the right numbers... OH... for Looperlative learn functionality(Im trying to justify the price of an L here... if I saved all that time spent programming a footpedal, and I cost 1000 kroners an hour, then how much money would i save buying a Looperlative... is how my argument is running at the moment... quite convincing, but I still don't have the cash!!!)) Anyway... serious digression... The other major gripe being the midi channel thing.. if only you could set a midi channel for every switch. However... Did you see the price??? Did you see the price of all other foot-controllers... are you a millionaire? Do you like spending money on things that dont ACTUALLY make a noise? Did you see the price? You are aware that they are only switches arent you? Did you see the price? Why would you spend more when you can spend THIS amount? Is it the BEHRINGER thing (hate the company for ripping off Mackie or some such malarky) well remember this... They also make the FCB1010 Foot controller, a wonderful and did I mention cheap, innovative, high quality product! Sturdier than a "Black box Flight Recorder".. Eight out of Ten Loopers, when asked to state a preference, said that they used the BEHRINGER FCB1010, not only does it taste better, but it washes whiter too! mark. PS. When can I expect the cheque Uli ??? On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 8:18 AM, andy butler wrote: > Be careful, > to work the EDP you need a a footcontroller with switches that either > > a) send Midi-On/Off > b) send CC with the ability to send a second CC on release of the switch > > Mark's suggestion of the FCB1010 is what most use, it's cheap, but > sturdily built (and the manual's ok if you have plenty of patience ;-) > > There's also a Roland device that some people use (....anybody here???) > > Don't try the Yamaha MFC ....too much delay in sending commands. > > andy butler > > mark francombe wrote: > >> The ubiquitous Behringer FCB1010 to name but one... Its cheap, but maybe >> if it had an understandable manual it would cost alot more! Buy one and join >> a forum! It cant do much without anguish, but it controls the edp just >> fine.. thank you very much! >> >> .m.x >> >> On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 11:26 PM, Aaron Austin > aaronaustin88@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Are there alternate foot controllers for the edp because the one it >> comes with constantly gets dirt and dust and NEVER WORKS PROPERLY IT >> SUCKS !!!! >> >> >> >> -- >> www.markfrancombe.com >> www.looop.no >> > > -- www.markfrancombe.com www.looop.no ------=_Part_1783_16404561.1217577560698 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I'll just third my own vote for the Behringer. There has been ALOT of discussion about it (and other progamable pedals) on this list. Everyone complains about the Behringer, (it IS too big... its IS a little clunky to program - but actually pretty easy when you "geddit" - the hard bit is always trawling through manuals finding the right numbers... OH... for Looperlative learn functionality(Im trying to justify the price of an L here... if I saved all that time spent programming a footpedal, and I cost 1000 kroners an hour, then how much money would i save buying a Looperlative... is how my argument is running at the moment... quite convincing, but I still don't have the cash!!!)) Anyway... serious digression... The other major gripe being the midi channel thing.. if only you could set a midi channel for every switch.

However... Did you see the price??? Did you see the price of all other foot-controllers... are you a millionaire? Do you like spending money on things that dont ACTUALLY make a noise? Did you see the price? You are aware that they are only switches arent you? Did you see the price? Why would you spend more when you can spend THIS amount? Is it the BEHRINGER  thing (hate the company for ripping off Mackie or some such malarky) well remember this... They also make the FCB1010 Foot controller,  a wonderful and did I mention cheap, innovative, high quality product! Sturdier than a "Black box Flight Recorder".. Eight out of Ten Loopers, when asked to state a preference, said that they used the BEHRINGER FCB1010, not only does it taste better, but it washes whiter too!

mark.


PS. When can I expect the cheque Uli ???



On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 8:18 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
Be careful,
to work the EDP you need a a footcontroller with switches that either

a) send Midi-On/Off
b) send CC with the ability to send a second CC on release of the switch

Mark's suggestion of the FCB1010 is what most use, it's cheap, but
sturdily built (and the manual's ok if you have plenty of patience ;-)

There's also a Roland device that some people use (....anybody here???)

Don't try the Yamaha MFC ....too much delay in sending commands.

andy butler

mark francombe wrote:
The ubiquitous Behringer FCB1010 to name but one... Its cheap, but maybe if it had an understandable manual it would cost alot more! Buy one and join a forum! It cant do much without anguish, but it controls the edp just fine.. thank you very much!

.m.x

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 11:26 PM, Aaron Austin <aaronaustin88@gmail.com <mailto:aaronaustin88@gmail.com>> wrote:

   Are there alternate foot controllers for the edp because the one it
   comes with constantly gets dirt and dust and NEVER WORKS PROPERLY IT
   SUCKS !!!!



--
www.markfrancombe.com <http://www.markfrancombe.com>
www.looop.no <http://www.looop.no>




--
www.markfrancombe.com
www.looop.no
------=_Part_1783_16404561.1217577560698-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 08:50:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D4F423BF6D; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 08:50:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=FtA+MemPG3CAVk6lXoFUMyTslG2tqaTdRDd99aTC6CQuk6GqOFXUTdoITfIDROMX7EDB1r2MMjYQ6o+/UwyCrecTdQQaZ82tS2H3jmgLCLrjMzbioMdUgJ16lTMPi1rMIWqWDa40BA1JbS33uMHqteiQGlgaHWlou9vv3joGURY=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 01:50:07 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re:alternate foot controllers for the Echoplex Digital Pro Plus To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4892AAA7.90701@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <925327.2607.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82419 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 08:50:09 +0000 (UTC) Ive heard good things about this one http://www.roland.com/products/en/FC-300/index.html Sjaak from this list can probably answer a lot of your questions here is his web http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/gear.htm cheers Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Thu, 7/31/08, andy butler wrote: > From: andy butler > Subject: Re: Echoplex Digital Pro Plus > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Thursday, July 31, 2008, 11:18 PM > Be careful, > to work the EDP you need a a footcontroller > with switches that either > > a) send Midi-On/Off > b) send CC with the ability to send a second CC on release > of the switch > > Mark's suggestion of the FCB1010 is what most use, > it's cheap, but > sturdily built (and the manual's ok if you have plenty > of patience ;-) > > There's also a Roland device that some people use > (....anybody here???) > > Don't try the Yamaha MFC ....too much delay in sending > commands. > > andy butler > > mark francombe wrote: > > The ubiquitous Behringer FCB1010 to name but one... > Its cheap, but maybe > > if it had an understandable manual it would cost alot > more! Buy one and > > join a forum! It cant do much without anguish, but it > controls the edp > > just fine.. thank you very much! > > > > .m.x > > > > On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 11:26 PM, Aaron Austin > > > wrote: > > > > Are there alternate foot controllers for the edp > because the one it > > comes with constantly gets dirt and dust and NEVER > WORKS PROPERLY IT > > SUCKS !!!! > > > > > > > > > > -- > > www.markfrancombe.com > > > www.looop.no From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 09:03:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 21AB83BF72; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:03:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=80FTAdhv4cpcEsIDg45NjCCimj0kivp8+yCjXVoXCQY=; b=YG0RMCWodq/TaVowmEyInCnu0VIffd6JvZGe52C4PH1KQfvlfC9yEW+4l87/PqtUqL cAEtpYQzBGSz8XwIltR3ZfYGcFXtyvxL9CHmsKHEL21pM26fJbz17HxzCHPbjap8Su2E gL5yKOJxvl6Jwo+9A8o+pVBAOUosBzC+SO/O8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=gSjJJa0TfQ/Xn+J8EWp9fcmlKfgaeJmdApTsbfpt0bfqwygEKj21LuQcZ7wm73tBWo 8FaIvOllkYTGAgrvCrQPQ+u7pYNMW04EObpCghV51ty3xqD83lj0noZv3ic7CPwIUkHz 3a/W95ctmoAeDAlzKd3etJ4fMZAzQGWl8XlkE= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808010203id258df6k8c59c2c67abecf6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:03:33 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: loopers-delight Subject: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82420 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:03:34 +0000 (UTC) Hi Friends, I've spotted some threads on foot controllers recently. And since I just recently posted about my research for a smaller ctrl setup I'd just like to add now that I have given up on that; my vision of having just one pedal and changing its functionality by additional hand control (laptop keys, MIDI hand button pad etc). The simplest and coolest solution I tried was a one-button glass mouse, from Apple, gaffer taped to the stage floor so you can place the mouse cursor with touch control on the laptop pad and simply tap the floor mouse with a foot at the correct timing. (I had the same wish for the EDP many years ago, using its programs to set different functionality setups for a given set of floor buttons) The direct reason I gave up on all this is that when I finally plugged in my FCB yesterday, I had such a kick simply by not having to plan my playing much in advance. Also by playing both the looper and the instrument at the same time. What blast that was - being able to decide on the spot where to go on the next downbeat! An example: I tend to work a lot with pitch. In loopers I constantly work the rate/speed to create melodies "in the loop" or just chord changes to accompany melody lines I play on top. I had noticed that there are only about a dozen "chord vamps" I usually improvise with in different combinations, so I thought I could pre program those changes to lift off the burden of tap dancing over the floor pedals. How wrong I was! It really IS not the same thing having a preprogrammed looper action sequence thrown at you as if you should play the looper with feet (for the very same action sequence) while you play an instrument by hand. So I was wrong, but I had some fun finding out about that. I'm finding the FCB pedal good enough for what I regard an optimal looping setup: Instant access to some few but powerful actions. Playable. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 09:23:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 14A173BF70; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:23:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=7pyfTKjyoxuGqu8Hf/N+J1m4Hc/nDyHFB8aREEVwPoA=; b=t9xPZSNb+8ieJndJss9uo+ZorbJ2M/jVKDm+ZJZRAuJjbZ5RrjSRmkb64MFicv7CaB ASUu4VVhth6athww5F5E4k938NfocO7QOnYoDqDcEqVdFEu3zJIdK+QEsp7TrHHAI4aK pkydDAwUE52TB+2SYZGOTmmDWzTIhaVpO6nSM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=YJ1hOdguszRA7ffOyBXI9DBdj+THimfKj1ybneD6H7vzHkotWgyciD09nSWZZAPXSV x2Wp5yj9xpBWnRgePoDHJRl+dhFeZJ0+krd9y8L/RcnPJRpHvW4M0uNHaSITa4HiIHgY egTdzdGK5EtI7l22dEFUKl5QXL3MYZi/oM6II= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:23:20 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808010203id258df6k8c59c2c67abecf6@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2869_17265525.1217582600073" References: <66f9cc1e0808010203id258df6k8c59c2c67abecf6@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82421 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:23:21 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_2869_17265525.1217582600073 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline 2008/8/1 Per Boysen oh my poor little (per)boy... that's why mamita told you not to have rides from stranges .... raul. So I was wrong, but I had some fun finding out about that. > > I'm finding the FCB pedal good enough for what I regard an optimal > looping setup: > Instant access to some few but powerful actions. Playable. > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_2869_17265525.1217582600073 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline


2008/8/1 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>

oh my poor little (per)boy... that's why mamita told you not to have rides from stranges ....

raul.


So I was wrong, but I had some fun finding out about that.

I'm finding the FCB pedal good enough for what I regard an optimal
looping setup:
Instant access to some few but powerful actions. Playable.

--
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (international)
www.myspace.com/perboysen




--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
------=_Part_2869_17265525.1217582600073-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 09:28:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1DDB03BF75; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:28:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=PzaFnCc/AOGdAdxGWXy2YFNGw6WJI0zmBr6embBqvCU=; b=O6r+rbWVE/rSnSSMW/OxVL7oZ1iXFkMA5N8Ca68Ki4pahHZaR6Os7WJKcGfW/dVTn0 DuA/tKRLl8AQpHUuX+qxR4HcX3HIsWQW6WUN0e3dEy89IQe3jSS8flBfgJfR7W1zbUlr 1xwiTgIBDsv+BNcLxaCiBI/VzsaKVANvsKhag= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=gDKV9GwHsqRUjPNV99D8FN6qYx+nevsgQ2HR3k0WqZetM5i2PYlCtdF4sOutGnYzCh eltxlQl/tthCk2XfnNBIVydWbobC1XM4FPd3Tle7XN0tfY/+b9s1TM4NUFOsrqDzHhPt Bib4IFAeso28f3UslijWgmEIbgwZ4+1tFJhtQ= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:28:11 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808010203id258df6k8c59c2c67abecf6@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2919_10652925.1217582891731" References: <66f9cc1e0808010203id258df6k8c59c2c67abecf6@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82422 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:28:12 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_2919_10652925.1217582891731 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ... and now! ... run away from ghostly scripts in the dark !! 2008/8/1 Per Boysen > Hi Friends, > > I've spotted some threads on foot controllers recently. And since I > just recently posted about my research for a smaller ctrl setup I'd > just like to add now that I have given up on that; my vision of having > just one pedal and changing its functionality by additional hand > control (laptop keys, MIDI hand button pad etc). The simplest and > coolest solution I tried was a one-button glass mouse, from Apple, > gaffer taped to the stage floor so you can place the mouse cursor with > touch control on the laptop pad and simply tap the floor mouse with a > foot at the correct timing. (I had the same wish for the EDP many > years ago, using its programs to set different functionality setups > for a given set of floor buttons) > > The direct reason I gave up on all this is that when I finally plugged > in my FCB yesterday, I had such a kick simply by not having to plan my > playing much in advance. Also by playing both the looper and the > instrument at the same time. What blast that was - being able to > decide on the spot where to go on the next downbeat! An example: I > tend to work a lot with pitch. In loopers I constantly work the > rate/speed to create melodies "in the loop" or just chord changes to > accompany melody lines I play on top. I had noticed that there are > only about a dozen "chord vamps" I usually improvise with in different > combinations, so I thought I could pre program those changes to lift > off the burden of tap dancing over the floor pedals. How wrong I was! > It really IS not the same thing having a preprogrammed looper action > sequence thrown at you as if you should play the looper with feet (for > the very same action sequence) while you play an instrument by hand. > So I was wrong, but I had some fun finding out about that. > > I'm finding the FCB pedal good enough for what I regard an optimal > looping setup: > Instant access to some few but powerful actions. Playable. > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_2919_10652925.1217582891731 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
... and now! ... run away from ghostly scripts in the dark !!

2008/8/1 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
Hi Friends,

I've spotted some threads on foot controllers recently. And since I
just recently posted about my research for a smaller ctrl setup I'd
just like to add now that I have given up on that; my vision of having
just one pedal and changing its functionality by additional hand
control (laptop keys, MIDI hand button pad etc). The simplest and
coolest solution I tried was a one-button glass mouse, from Apple,
gaffer taped to the stage floor so you can place the mouse cursor with
touch control on the laptop pad and simply tap the floor mouse with a
foot at the correct timing. (I had the same wish for the EDP many
years ago, using its programs to set different functionality setups
for a given set of floor buttons)

The direct reason I gave up on all this is that when I finally plugged
in my FCB yesterday, I had such a kick simply by not having to plan my
playing much in advance. Also by playing both the looper and the
instrument at the same time. What blast that was - being able to
decide on the spot where to go on the next downbeat! An example: I
tend to work a lot with pitch. In loopers I constantly work the
rate/speed to create melodies "in the loop" or just chord changes to
accompany melody lines I play on top. I had noticed that there are
only about a dozen "chord vamps" I usually improvise with in different
combinations, so I thought I could pre program those changes to lift
off the burden of tap dancing over the floor pedals. How wrong I was!
It really IS not the same thing having a preprogrammed looper action
sequence thrown at you as if you should play the looper with feet (for
the very same action sequence) while you play an instrument by hand.
So I was wrong, but I had some fun finding out about that.

I'm finding the FCB pedal good enough for what I regard an optimal
looping setup:
Instant access to some few but powerful actions. Playable.

--
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (international)
www.myspace.com/perboysen




--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
------=_Part_2919_10652925.1217582891731-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 09:38:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C6CE3BF6E; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:38:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=I11c7G+vqo1GvQh/2M1OpJbch4AdBYr1Eqg9ycU0SRW8Xs3yekTZQkfMDfHUcUp89xXFX/VUv6T7FhyKBibHsJ18wC/8ch2B7MUurVlYTC2c/TdbAWPj770HrZuruNEiS22SEo1N/6ix40GbN6lWLYorLWpN6AqGu8C1CeFIVLE=; X-YMail-OSG: qJrteg4VM1luwu5fiHv1f3uBDyZ2INwaU8w4P6LsI4npIe2xpeft_Xwfu1pk9d6au6KFP5Q9VMnYD9PU_R9IIg3znmkYTCTuQClXdaW3Y5yaKAjcaNvKq7xvIFg- Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:38:02 +0100 (BST) From: Richard Graham Subject: Re: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808010203id258df6k8c59c2c67abecf6@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1453646798-1217583482=:18015" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <402592.18015.qm@web86107.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <2_zfXC.A.6yF.8ltkIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82423 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:38:04 +0000 (UTC) --0-1453646798-1217583482=:18015 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Per, A very insightful post! Been thinking of buying a FCB floorboard for my EDP for a while now, and I think I will. A lot can be said for having access to additional parameters, especially changing between Insert and Multiply functions. I assume this is possible? Cheers, Ricky Per Boysen wrote: Hi Friends, I've spotted some threads on foot controllers recently. And since I just recently posted about my research for a smaller ctrl setup I'd just like to add now that I have given up on that; my vision of having just one pedal and changing its functionality by additional hand control (laptop keys, MIDI hand button pad etc). The simplest and coolest solution I tried was a one-button glass mouse, from Apple, gaffer taped to the stage floor so you can place the mouse cursor with touch control on the laptop pad and simply tap the floor mouse with a foot at the correct timing. (I had the same wish for the EDP many years ago, using its programs to set different functionality setups for a given set of floor buttons) The direct reason I gave up on all this is that when I finally plugged in my FCB yesterday, I had such a kick simply by not having to plan my playing much in advance. Also by playing both the looper and the instrument at the same time. What blast that was - being able to decide on the spot where to go on the next downbeat! An example: I tend to work a lot with pitch. In loopers I constantly work the rate/speed to create melodies "in the loop" or just chord changes to accompany melody lines I play on top. I had noticed that there are only about a dozen "chord vamps" I usually improvise with in different combinations, so I thought I could pre program those changes to lift off the burden of tap dancing over the floor pedals. How wrong I was! It really IS not the same thing having a preprogrammed looper action sequence thrown at you as if you should play the looper with feet (for the very same action sequence) while you play an instrument by hand. So I was wrong, but I had some fun finding out about that. I'm finding the FCB pedal good enough for what I regard an optimal looping setup: Instant access to some few but powerful actions. Playable. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen --0-1453646798-1217583482=:18015 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hi Per,
 
A very insightful post! Been thinking of buying a FCB floorboard for my EDP for a while now, and I think I will. A lot can be said for having access to additional parameters, especially changing between Insert and Multiply functions. I assume this is possible?
 
Cheers,
 
Ricky

Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Friends,

I've spotted some threads on foot controllers recently. And since I
just recently posted about my research for a smaller ctrl setup I'd
just like to add now that I have given up on that; my vision of having
just one pedal and changing its functionality by additional hand
control (laptop keys, MIDI hand button pad etc). The simplest and
coolest solution I tried was a one-button glass mouse, from Apple,
gaffer taped to the stage floor so you can place the mouse cursor with
touch control on the laptop pad and simply tap the floor mouse with a
foot at the correct timing. (I had the same wish for the EDP many
years ago, using its programs to set different functionality setups
for a given set of floor buttons)

The direct reason I gave up on all this is that when I finally plugged
in my FCB yesterday, I had such a kick simply by not having to plan my
playing much in advance. Also by playing both the looper and the
instrument at the same time. What blast that was - being able to
decide on the spot where to go on the next downbeat! An example: I
tend to work a lot with pitch. In loopers I constantly work the
rate/speed to create melodies "in the loop" or just chord changes to
accompany melody lines I play on top. I had noticed that there are
only about a dozen "chord vamps" I usually improvise with in different
combinations, so I thought I could pre program those changes to lift
off the burden of tap dancing over the floor pedals. How wrong I was!
It really IS not the same thing having a preprogrammed looper action
sequence thrown at you as if you should play the looper with feet (for
the very same action sequence) while you play an instrument by hand.
So I was wrong, but I had some fun finding out about that.

I'm finding the FCB pedal good enough for what I regard an optimal
looping setup:
Instant access to some few but powerful actions. Playable.

--
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (international)
www.myspace.com/perboysen


--0-1453646798-1217583482=:18015-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 09:40:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B2D3E3BF6C; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:40:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=XQJa+8kDRRentiLRNGLGKYXirIIQBeZed81/YN1PV9U=; b=qP+T+1jbjUTg0W5mLCOUTrWQQ6Zt2zBmQ6gOPx+jbw46fECtDWJnBTiO6zf/1dwzxl i7isUOcgeLs1gIML6m+8uP2hxbu8tdYB3QsIvtmBY6+4nGPnw3WAwGffTRkMYBxzvi8F JLB18+PdWOX+4OnTZTV2m7KFgE+l64GTD4MyY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=f1xZpMaDdEL3sZqjRXTgHKLPqrPGf1Uxj0/Wm6tne/FS55M1Mhz0L3+gcjQseuaMCk hrkU9rQdniZ5w9fUjo8QWDD6iz23JrKJcDHlvxFITh2A4OS+4PLjYNAaKPwdGXQWuDPs YFogGGeefC+SheC3F/aleIp4/HAb5pbAdyXzA= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:40:19 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New Chinapainting release - Night Blooming Cereus In-Reply-To: <003701c8f351$c66b23f0$4101a8c0@STUDIO1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3014_18041260.1217583619876" References: <004701c8f305$4eca83a0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> <4891C340.1090305@mhorse.com> <66f9cc1e0807311337v5cb41f0fg7bbc106bf1786dc4@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60807311342v270eb8d2lbf724acae229627f@mail.gmail.com> <003701c8f351$c66b23f0$4101a8c0@STUDIO1> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82424 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:40:20 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_3014_18041260.1217583619876 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline my vote for the same title track. good inspiration and execution. raul. 2008/7/31 Ricky Graham > Enjoyed the clips also! > > Good work. > > Ricky > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Jim Goodin > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Sent:* Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:42 PM > *Subject:* Re: New Chinapainting release - Night Blooming Cereus > > Per thanks so much man, we're very jazzed about this record. Appreciate > you taking time to give an electronic spin. > > Best > > Jim > > On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Daryl Shawn wrote: >> >>> >>> http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com/music.htm >>> >> >> >> Hey, China guys - this is good! Some really beautiful moments in those >> clips. >> >> -- >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se (Swedish) >> www.looproom.com (international) >> www.myspace.com/perboysen >> >> > > > -- > The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com > MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > Chinapainting - > http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Chinapainting on My Space - > http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com > The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - > http://www.woodandwiremusic.com > Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull > Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel > Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com > > ------------------------------ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.5.8/1582 - Release Date: 30/07/2008 > 18:37 > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_3014_18041260.1217583619876 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
my vote for the same title track. 
good inspiration and execution. 

raul.

2008/7/31 Ricky Graham <rock.guitar.guru@btinternet.com>
Enjoyed the clips also!
 
Good work.
 
Ricky
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Goodin
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: New Chinapainting release - Night Blooming Cereus

Per thanks so much man, we're very jazzed about this record.  Appreciate you taking time to give an electronic spin.
 
Best
 
Jim

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:


On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Daryl Shawn <highhorse@mhorse.com> wrote:

http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com/music.htm


Hey, China guys - this is good! Some really beautiful moments in those clips.

--
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (international)
www.myspace.com/perboysen




--
The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com

No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG.
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--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
------=_Part_3014_18041260.1217583619876-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 09:41:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B3B7B3BF74; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:41:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=mfdr9HjHEpbZhzrGvbFh3jcgXLIgMSFW8VpPjvPlP2A=; b=Fku9ikh22MkeyitV5EwDqMJkBbf9A3sMuDYR5aCEe95kdUD07GFmdYhEcJxFHTnT// y6dtZliSn2nl9ADILctPMxppXCltULyIJFgfAIkU9tQtsjm/3JPWH/E7iGzREn41H39/ JX1JyLzGJvi7sHwLUZifiIvKHqT/rtor2QIYw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=o2bFl77gQHCAPCqra6h+8q12jB9IO+LMiwWiL+fG6LesJcqu34wsODrSH7/vKvf430 pIQ0FkSTymWq/6ZTCbkvREhrxhDB89HrNaMPJZP1zy8TvMb2dxBDmiQxdMG76y4hS517 BOLCMK+9mUZpUwdCr0+jBGg1yEyndENgoDiQY= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808010241v6eace478kff1989ca367a0a6a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:41:41 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <66f9cc1e0808010203id258df6k8c59c2c67abecf6@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <0Hd7YC.A.vAG.WptkIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82425 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:41:42 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Raul Bonell wrote: > ... and now! ... run away from ghostly scripts in the dark !! Hmm... please don't misinterpret my last post. "A few powerful and instantly playable" foot control buttons is just my physical tool for reaching open horizons and the infinitely expandable looping universe brought about by user custom scripting and other dark disciplines. I just want to start the music in my heart, as opposed to acting along technically pre defined routs. What I'm saying is that settling with a tool-set that you manage to master does indeed free your ass! And we all know that then your mind will follow - here in glorious musical creativity. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 09:45:56 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 447CE3BF79; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:45:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=/JL+duoABR7sbTb7Yo8vccTe45CKTDEWjg+SnDIyR2s=; b=p/3MToUJGv8l636Yng1C3S8CbpqWaBOTRoyN7nRvOYbF1S+zpJc4K8LlnW7C0EPiT7 Wyb/N6K9z04pkG1uaZadbryA+TxWGmWFz1T4T40yy0JvkJNra1fmII5/KOUw54INq8IU EHjvUGSeGKbcocyPdCSTW3lQ07ek5N+Kae9dw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=BtXpP9EdCBkjWRG0UPq6S6SuFHsCwRIdbkf//XMgrb8n6dImj2vN3LIelKOUlOtEHq H+Tw/NDKhTT38ahWm1ziMq0cDqoY3iV1gklf7B7B1j4w/LtwyKYUkcBfV0RhRI/vdtJj W4OEhPOWNpsCyHAPE3qs3gcF9mb0+guKu5GEg= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:45:55 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808010241v6eace478kff1989ca367a0a6a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3089_9080384.1217583955458" References: <66f9cc1e0808010203id258df6k8c59c2c67abecf6@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808010241v6eace478kff1989ca367a0a6a@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82426 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:45:56 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_3089_9080384.1217583955458 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline 2008/8/1 Per Boysen What I'm saying is that settling with a tool-set that you manage to > master does indeed free your ass! And we all know that then your mind > will follow - here in glorious musical creativity. > I really like this P mode ! Gloorioooous !! -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_3089_9080384.1217583955458 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline


2008/8/1 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>


What I'm saying is that settling with a tool-set that you manage to
master does indeed free your ass! And we all know that then your mind
will follow - here in glorious musical creativity.


 
I really like this P mode !
Gloorioooous !!



--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
------=_Part_3089_9080384.1217583955458-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 09:48:31 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 681CD3BF78; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:48:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=QT1krM9r7cJZnPImoopBFnciQJmXD+5AU2f42EpP3Ps=; b=wy2qGHM700TXu/GRDTTh0gOCmJRR2wsWktKdumFyH3/y0pVcADowGp8GF6BpNRXy0x oVb6ed1LGbk4xT1YkeJ6fkEHm8B4H6R+Qwvr9FNcVpN56cLbObPza+vW0yYe8WMVlPVO suy0T1o2PE+BxAWlaR1W1FvtWC5wptmW35PW8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=m3MXnDBy4SMcjCsI5FTEiCTY6ApO+SaDrGtwqAqFr01EUbx62Jx0Su8G5J6fuFvHdM h2xwNWARKmcCrZqrBP3onh02S1W6nowy86tZgue3WaIxgoEh//34FkhglzsdVsXtGKPM c3EsXbyMpfGXkrqLI2T0VzCCiCinWMRf1pQVs= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808010248i3beadb47iac96a471df619706@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:48:30 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! In-Reply-To: <402592.18015.qm@web86107.mail.ird.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <66f9cc1e0808010203id258df6k8c59c2c67abecf6@mail.gmail.com> <402592.18015.qm@web86107.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82427 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:48:31 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Richard Graham wrote: > Hi Per, > > A very insightful post! Been thinking of buying a FCB floorboard for my EDP > for a while now, and I think I will. A lot can be said for having access to > additional parameters, especially changing between Insert and Multiply > functions. I assume this is possible? Hi Ricky, I guess your assumption is correct, but you can easily check out in the manual: http://www.gibson.com/Files/Downloads/PDFs/Gibson/EchoplexPlusManual12.pdf -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 09:50:45 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 55CC83BF73; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:50:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=25pA7j/pWUNzgmduyVVgWZUOYjIlhg5ZtaRndRwhZsw=; b=Rv2UnbA/jXcQt87zEAdh0RqhRbMHwpEp3b6b9YhvG9HqJgy5eOVPa16HBCL7xJhbqk uD1T8ovwSQKcvIrorTasw+y5H2OnHfvvFAEUF5jEur/Q59Gyr4rKhKgaFu6ikWZ9ruQe F+2oR5ud759cXbvXOLb9AeH3blbVo6bQzHHFY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=tRlfpdyzAF480G7yZIlzEbkEpbGnyIDEdZg91deoCEKTyQb2WrfVIuaE2nGJAnyN9j cz9c1KklKBHbPkhcGhfKsiQSzV+KS5dSf7onkLK/DAk08QNxbSNkydEgWHjjaRfJklbY 2euIB4++slDFT2V9pApN8Omvk7aqSQNPatvmA= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:50:44 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3161_2892135.1217584244664" References: <66f9cc1e0808010203id258df6k8c59c2c67abecf6@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808010241v6eace478kff1989ca367a0a6a@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82428 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:50:45 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_3161_2892135.1217584244664 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline for the plex, I use to program a pair of banks in the fcb. basic/quick functions in the first and others (like triggers) for the second.. i'm done. raul. 2008/8/1 Raul Bonell > > > 2008/8/1 Per Boysen > > > What I'm saying is that settling with a tool-set that you manage to >> master does indeed free your ass! And we all know that then your mind >> will follow - here in glorious musical creativity. >> > > > > I really like this P mode ! > Gloorioooous !! > > > > -- > The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra > TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_3161_2892135.1217584244664 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
for the plex, I use to program a pair of banks in the fcb. basic/quick functions in the first and others (like triggers) for the second.. i'm done.

raul.

2008/8/1 Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com>


2008/8/1 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>


What I'm saying is that settling with a tool-set that you manage to
master does indeed free your ass! And we all know that then your mind
will follow - here in glorious musical creativity.


 
I really like this P mode !
Gloorioooous !!



--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com



--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
------=_Part_3161_2892135.1217584244664-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 10:00:52 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A552D3BF83; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:00:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 55259465/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.231.202 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.231.202 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: As8AAEV7kkhPTufK/2dsb2JhbAAIixilW4NR X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,292,1215385200"; d="scan'208";a="55259465" Message-ID: <4892DEDB.2080604@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 11:00:59 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: MIDI foot controllers References: <9ab0c76f0807311655k32e95871wc9a13ba157f6fa7d@mail.gmail.com> <4892AAA7.90701@tiscali.co.uk> <000e01c8f3a0$85edf2e0$5901a8c0@bobdell> In-Reply-To: <000e01c8f3a0$85edf2e0$5901a8c0@bobdell> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82429 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:00:52 +0000 (UTC) Bob Amstadt wrote: > The Gordius Little Giant is amazingly programmable. I haven't tried to > use it with an EDP, but it is an amazing device and much smaller than > the FCB1010. It's excellent for the edp. ( I replaced my fcb with one a while back) ...but expensive !!!! for me, it's worth it, for the weight saved and the possibility of edp tricks. andy butler > > If you want to build your own MIDI controller, there is excellent > information here: http://www.ucapps.de/ > > Bob Amstadt > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 10:02:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C21B03BF6F; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:02:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:02:41 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Re:alternate foot controllers for the Echoplex Digital Pro Plus MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 217.68.49.65 X-DCC--Metrics: eir; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: <6I-zd.A.tkG.D9tkIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82430 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:02:43 +0000 (UTC) > Luis wrote > Ive heard good things about this one > http://www.roland.com/products/en/FC-300/index.html > Sjaak from this list can probably answer a lot of your questions > here is his web Hey Luis, how's life? :) Yes, the FC-300 is a very flexible controller. F= or example, it can send up to 6 control change messages per expression pe= dal on different midi channels. And has been very reliable so far. --- Sjaak http://www.livelooping.be/ http://www.overgaauw.be/ http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 10:11:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 62A173BF76; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:11:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 52314025/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.231.202 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.231.202 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: As8AANZ9kkhPTufK/2dsb2JhbAAIixilb4NR X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,292,1215385200"; d="scan'208";a="52314025" Message-ID: <4892E154.2040505@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 11:11:32 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Echoplex Digital Pro Plus References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <9RpxV.A.IxG.LFukIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82431 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:11:23 +0000 (UTC) Sjaak wrote: >> There's also a Roland device that some people use (....anybody here???) > > Yep, the older FC-2000 and the latest model is the FC-300. Each pedal can be programmed as follows: > - Type of midi message: CC but you can also send other type of midi data > - Range: This sets the range for values that are transmitted (minimum + maximum value) > - Mode: > * Latch = The ON and OFF will alternate each time you press the pedal > * Momentary = The value will be ON while you press the pedal, and OFF when you release the pedal. > - Amp control jack 1 + 2 > > Btw: I haven't used it with an EDP ;) > If you use the * Momentary setting, and set the EDP ControlSource = CC this should be ok for EDP I haven't had one to do latency tests on tho'. (unlikely it's bad...but best to check) Incidently latency tests for fcb1010 FC7 (the edp non-midi controller) Gordius Little Giant show them all to be good, all 7mS or under when the EDP latency is included (triggering sample) Not much difference between them, with the Gordius being slightly faster. andy butler > --- > Sjaak > http://www.livelooping.be/ > http://www.overgaauw.be/ > http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 10:59:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C5043BF7E; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:59:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=FEUWhyTCtt9SIUPaX3+c+S/N9VzzgqfIU8UOGL0QGai4t4jJF6W7+5rCHNpufVls/RMS3R8bwlI+EFerWsLsnZeX4MHXMqTRUeqraIH9uzHXMqZpsGr3aPwQJc2YT0H0YxYE/L7wQx8vE0Hwgq/nlbrQnarr/CvMgho7SPhHhrU=; X-YMail-OSG: zS9ve4UVM1nxL_gfH4c.fXGfIkfLfCOqhbFfRxIXoOvEK3t3qVownz66lKuwWP_a9D4U02ST61vsVstS7yruSS997j4bZYqpEIo7E8xTQZ3AvLFh_SZIVhNO4xI- Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:59:26 +0100 (BST) From: Richard Graham Subject: Re: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808010248i3beadb47iac96a471df619706@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2035453406-1217588366=:68747" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <16589.68747.qm@web86108.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82432 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:59:28 +0000 (UTC) --0-2035453406-1217588366=:68747 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thanks, Per! Ricky Per Boysen wrote: On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Richard Graham wrote: > Hi Per, > > A very insightful post! Been thinking of buying a FCB floorboard for my EDP > for a while now, and I think I will. A lot can be said for having access to > additional parameters, especially changing between Insert and Multiply > functions. I assume this is possible? Hi Ricky, I guess your assumption is correct, but you can easily check out in the manual: http://www.gibson.com/Files/Downloads/PDFs/Gibson/EchoplexPlusManual12.pdf -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen --0-2035453406-1217588366=:68747 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Thanks, Per!
 
Ricky

Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Richard Graham
wrote:
> Hi Per,
>
> A very insightful post! Been thinking of buying a FCB floorboard for my EDP
> for a while now, and I think I will. A lot can be said for having access to
> additional parameters, especially changing between Insert and Multiply
> functions. I assume this is possible?


Hi Ricky,

I guess your assumption is correct, but you can easily check out in the manual:
http://www.gibson.com/Files/Downloads/PDFs/Gibson/EchoplexPlusManual12.pdf

--
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (international)
www.myspace.com/perboysen


--0-2035453406-1217588366=:68747-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 11:01:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D811B3BF85; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:01:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 12:01:14 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Re:MIDI foot controllers (was: Echoplex Digital Pro Plus) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 217.68.49.65 X-DCC--Metrics: hel; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82433 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:01:16 +0000 (UTC) > Bob Amstadt: > The Gordius Little Giant is amazingly programmable. I haven't tried to= use > it with an EDP, but it is an amazing device and much smaller than the > FCB1010. Hi Bob :) Gordius sure makes interesting products but as most of the manu= facturors their target is the guitar player. But maybe I should try one a= nd see if it works for me. As a keyboard player it's very difficult to know what's going on with my = LP1 on stage. It build in a 6HE 19" rack and standing on the floor at the= right site, I'm playing piano so it's can't see the track leds very well= . For example: current track, track status etc. And as a result of that, = things go wrong. I have progammed my FC-300 in a way that the patch number display indicat= es the track number but I have no way to know the status of a track or th= e status of features like reverse, speed etc. The FC-300 latch mode can d= o this but unfortunaltely the LP1 does not support latch mode (=3D on and= off will alternate each time you press the pedal), so the LED's are alwa= ys off. Besides that, most standalone midi devices don't send the status info bac= k to the midi controller, so when you change from track to track, your co= ntroller will probably show the wrong status anyway.... Do you know any c= ontroller which would work like this? What about Gordius? BTW: using a laptop with a DAW controller or a controller like the Jazzmu= tant - Lemur could do this but that would cost a fortune :) See http://ww= w.jazzmutant.com/ --- Sjaak http://www.livelooping.be/ http://www.overgaauw.be/ http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 11:03:32 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 916B53BF8B; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:03:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=NhqX51ppp2VITL3lK+lFqmiSax2MIY67TOtv5wsO518=; b=mR1MJ0LQMeE79v6wDGfnYjPLjNqHrtg+vra127kf7AF4/BaQutTBOoWdU4CYZmeX2W JJmfc/bRlrLT814WPq2DXnCphQFV+3PaLWcVD9uBI0YHFIgM4v4XRLLZ7dmr9jPM5vvb vDwGpxNHHLz9Rg2V3ntCKf46kuJPGAEpxplPs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=G2FvCQNmlCQltBoOCb5zYtNmtJ9eOAV8XDySveD8toFd2Y+/PUIe+5rBRiDE+DuGTm 2X3taGe8ivQ4e3bj9ItxCafTOAxnzaaEcUKYgvhZhM0kliia1uclIuVIGaHYjG7P+dDl bIPkW7a1QKkhllpCvuBPT/E+onRR8sOpVK+A0= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 07:03:30 -0400 From: "Dennis Moser" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: GIG SPAM and CD Release: New York, Friday/Boston, Saturday! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2458_21421710.1217588610628" Resent-Message-ID: <3qLzyC.A.TjH.E2ukIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82434 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:03:32 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_2458_21421710.1217588610628 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Tonight ... a *No Eclipse Party*! Someone said there was an eclipse tonight ...not on MY stage! I'm starting off a busy weekend tonight, playing for the first time in New York City. Here's details: *07:00 PM to 11:00 PM* *Think Coffee* *248 Mercer Street* *New York, New York* Appearing in New York for the first time at Think Coffee! 4 Hours of Live ambient/experimental guitar improv ... *248 mercer street (between 3rd & 4th st) New York, NY (212) 228-6226* * *I'll have copies of the latest CD release, "*...this warming spring earth*", for sale (and some oldies, too!). There's a sample track from the CD here: http://audiozoloft.com/CDs/Warming/ ... and then, *SATURDAY IN SOMERVILLE!* 08/02/2008 07:00 PM - The Nave (Clarendon Hill Presbyterian Church) 155 Powderhouse Blvd., Somerville, MA, 02144 Cost: $7.00 Donation FIVE KNAVES @ THE NAVE Five musicians from literally across the Northern Hemisphere--from Maine and Massachusetts to New York and Oaxaca, Mexico--will gather to perform for an evening of musical exploration and improvisation ... featuring: *Chinapainting *{*Daryl Shawn & Jim Goodin*}( http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com), *Tim Nelson *( http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes), *Dennis Mose*r (http://audiozoloft.com), and *Rob Byrd* (http://www.robbyrd.com). Should be a great evening, as the acoustics at The Nave are a delight. I hope some of you can make either of these performances; both will be recorded for later sharing and distribution. Joe Bob Briggs would say, "What a great way to kick off August!" Best to all and keep on looping! Dennis (and yes, I beat Zoe by an hour ... she and I have joined the TIPLOSS Fingertip Replacement Plan for Looping Musicians!) ------=_Part_2458_21421710.1217588610628 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Tonight ... a No Eclipse Party!  Someone said there was an eclipse tonight ...not on MY stage!

I'm starting off a busy weekend tonight, playing for the first time in New York City. Here's details:

07:00 PM  to 11:00 PM
Think Coffee
248 Mercer Street
New York, New York
Appearing in New York for the first time at Think Coffee!
4 Hours of Live ambient/experimental guitar improv ...
248 mercer street (between 3rd & 4th st) New York, NY (212) 228-6226

I'll have copies of the latest CD release, "...this warming spring earth", for sale (and some oldies, too!). There's a sample track from the CD here:

http://audiozoloft.com/CDs/Warming/

... and then,

SATURDAY IN SOMERVILLE!

08/02/2008
07:00 PM - The Nave
(Clarendon Hill Presbyterian Church)



155 Powderhouse Blvd.,
Somerville, MA, 02144
Cost: $7.00 Donation

FIVE KNAVES @ THE NAVE Five musicians from literally across the Northern Hemisphere--from Maine and Massachusetts to New York and Oaxaca, Mexico--will gather to perform for an evening of musical exploration and improvisation ... featuring: Chinapainting {Daryl Shawn & Jim Goodin}(http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com), Tim Nelson (http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes), Dennis Moser (http://audiozoloft.com), and Rob Byrd (http://www.robbyrd.com).


Should be a great evening, as the acoustics at The Nave are a delight. I hope some of you can make either of these performances; both will be recorded for later sharing and distribution.

Joe Bob Briggs would say, "What a great way to kick off August!"

Best to all and keep on looping!

Dennis

(and yes, I beat Zoe by an hour ... she and I have joined the TIPLOSS Fingertip Replacement Plan for Looping Musicians!)
------=_Part_2458_21421710.1217588610628-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 11:25:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B73033BF87; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:25:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 12:25:49 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: RE: Looping Strategies MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 217.68.49.65 X-DCC--Metrics: hel; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82435 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:25:50 +0000 (UTC) Kevin Kissinger wrote > I organize my loops into four* categories: > 1) Very Short Loop (VSL): less than one measure long > 2) Short Loop: lasts from one to four measures (< 10 seconds) > 3) Long loop: greater than four measures (> 10 seconds) > 4) Manual loops: done without hardware -- the musician simply Kevin, thanks for your reply. I'm using different loops length and do sol= o's as well but I didn't fully realize the impact of them on the structur= e of a song. I prefer to analyse things and to work in a logical way; you= r tips helps me to understand why certain things work and others not. I'v= e been practizing with different combinations of loop lengths last week. = It's funny to experience the differences while playing live :) --- Sjaak http://www.livelooping.be/ http://www.overgaauw.be/ http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 11:27:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 10CB03BF84; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:27:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Nk1VVVJ3gmAA:10 a=YXOspHT6iKkA:10 a=paUis6ZMAAAA:8 a=8h2tVM2zAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=iwUlkf_-VjYCf289aYkA:9 a=SYKTfO3MePG4mXtN88oA:7 a=CqesisBjpKsLElroYSqY0_UQM4QA:4 a=rCbS6JjwtmAA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808010203id258df6k8c59c2c67abecf6@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0808010203id258df6k8c59c2c67abecf6@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <453A1EF6-964E-4461-8AED-FB8A380E932F@comcast.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chris Sewell Subject: Re: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 07:27:35 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82436 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:27:38 +0000 (UTC) Per, Have you tried Bome's Midi translator? It's now available for OSX. It has opened up all sorts of possibilities. I can now use Live for pretty much everything. Why Live has not implemented native midi control of keystrokes is beyond me. But, you can program strings of commands like you were wanting to. Why not combine both approaches? Chris On Aug 1, 2008, at 5:03 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Hi Friends, > > I've spotted some threads on foot controllers recently. And since I > just recently posted about my research for a smaller ctrl setup I'd > just like to add now that I have given up on that; my vision of having > just one pedal and changing its functionality by additional hand > control (laptop keys, MIDI hand button pad etc). The simplest and > coolest solution I tried was a one-button glass mouse, from Apple, > gaffer taped to the stage floor so you can place the mouse cursor with > touch control on the laptop pad and simply tap the floor mouse with a > foot at the correct timing. (I had the same wish for the EDP many > years ago, using its programs to set different functionality setups > for a given set of floor buttons) > > The direct reason I gave up on all this is that when I finally plugged > in my FCB yesterday, I had such a kick simply by not having to plan my > playing much in advance. Also by playing both the looper and the > instrument at the same time. What blast that was - being able to > decide on the spot where to go on the next downbeat! An example: I > tend to work a lot with pitch. In loopers I constantly work the > rate/speed to create melodies "in the loop" or just chord changes to > accompany melody lines I play on top. I had noticed that there are > only about a dozen "chord vamps" I usually improvise with in different > combinations, so I thought I could pre program those changes to lift > off the burden of tap dancing over the floor pedals. How wrong I was! > It really IS not the same thing having a preprogrammed looper action > sequence thrown at you as if you should play the looper with feet (for > the very same action sequence) while you play an instrument by hand. > So I was wrong, but I had some fun finding out about that. > > I'm finding the FCB pedal good enough for what I regard an optimal > looping setup: > Instant access to some few but powerful actions. Playable. > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 11:38:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BC07D3BF89; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:38:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=4WOgo5ZOKen0dCSpUZPZP9IB0efkBZlzHxMtfX51arU=; b=Hxfxo3J/jzlFgx7FcmZ6JY6pRYg3S7I8+aR/d9hXlI/DISY38QWMx4x0GAWhU1XDSu 4EdvXaQnWxRHKkH1zXlYuqdVRTGIjd7brWq5pdK0T0S++E4DDOM78AoCKNThfFWDGmDx Clm3xp3oPD98NR6rd2TqOLsCw8cJ57O1fiByo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=rlOI9+7BvqHaSgF5kOQ1IpeVZeq9GPCXEcIetEQH/OIMjslqXOPdTuUOVVfqFxK7mo iZhpjzOEP3+hwT41tcF6U37kUN6baqIk3SvchpB4F6Q0ZmeWU2SxF9/mLzcf5en+ZlC2 zZ6sxoTnSbPtlvqNT8/1SfADTSGjXxhL2AFaM= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808010438u7b8e520off3523afd6974240@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:38:55 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! In-Reply-To: <453A1EF6-964E-4461-8AED-FB8A380E932F@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <66f9cc1e0808010203id258df6k8c59c2c67abecf6@mail.gmail.com> <453A1EF6-964E-4461-8AED-FB8A380E932F@comcast.net> Resent-Message-ID: <0cnQzD.A.HU.PXvkIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82437 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:38:55 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Chris Sewell wrote: > Per, > Have you tried Bome's Midi translator? It's now available for OSX. It has > opened up all sorts of possibilities. I can now use Live for pretty much > everything. Why Live has not implemented native midi control of keystrokes > is beyond me. But, you can program strings of commands like you were wanting > to. Why not combine both approaches? > Chris Yes, I have tried Bome's. It's great! I'd recommend it to everyone that uses Live and needs to get at computer key commands by using external MIDI control gear. Not of much interest to me right now though, since I have no interest in using Live for live looping. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 11:55:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8EC773BF86; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:55:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=5clFshtem4khnM7Vd+GCD6o92BBcZzYyi0WXs3jVKBrHtg8rvrd2DKjRnnxZa/zPKlMlsxf/GlykUiYauJaIiCjpXm5ar6tu02bq8N0pDXmxd1T5KGvE4VyM9YQ9IWCKhuUraoTDXe8ilN0Zl2TkkiHav1vqxMng72xWXCx0IWI=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 04:55:46 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re:alternate foot controllers for the Echoplex Digital Pro Plus To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <149923.44022.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <6RtZGD.A.wl.DnvkIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82438 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:55:47 +0000 (UTC) Hey Sjaak! Life is good still alive brother,thanx for the info,it certainly looks a lot more flexible than the FCB1010,the only thing that bothers me is the pedal layout,with the fcb1010 instant access to all the EDP midi functions is easier,so with the fc300 there would be more tap dancing involved. cheers Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Fri, 8/1/08, Sjaak wrote: > From: Sjaak > Subject: Re:alternate foot controllers for the Echoplex Digital Pro Plus > To: "Loopers-Delight" > Date: Friday, August 1, 2008, 3:02 AM > > Luis wrote > > Ive heard good things about this one > > http://www.roland.com/products/en/FC-300/index.html > > Sjaak from this list can probably answer a lot of your > questions > > here is his web > > Hey Luis, how's life? :) Yes, the FC-300 is a very > flexible controller. For example, it can send up to 6 > control change messages per expression pedal on different > midi channels. And has been very reliable so far. > > --- > Sjaak > http://www.livelooping.be/ > http://www.overgaauw.be/ > http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 12:26:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7CE303BF90; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 12:26:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:26:36 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Re:alternate foot controllers for the Echoplex Digital Pro Plus MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 217.68.49.65 X-DCC--Metrics: hel; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: <88nEOB.A.SGB.-DwkIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82439 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 12:26:38 +0000 (UTC) Luis wrote: > it certainly looks a lot more flexible than the FCB1010,the only thing = > that bothers me is the pedal layout,with the fcb1010 instant access to = all > the EDP midi functions is easier,so with the fc300 there would be more = tap > dancing involved. Yes, tap dancing, true....but see it as an addition of your live show :) = The FC-300 works fine for me but I'm still looking for something better, = see my previous reply about the LP1 and my FC-300. I mean: the FC-300 is = a flexible and reliable board but a foot controller and a 19" rack looper= can hardly be seen when you play keyboards...the visibility on stage is = pretty poor, I'm not always in control :) Floor boards are maybe not ideal for me, I need a kind of combination. 1 = or 2 expression pedals on the floor and a desktop controller which I can = put on top of my piano with maybe 10 stomp box switches with LED's to con= trol a rack looper. I don't know yet... --- Sjaak http://www.livelooping.be/ http://www.overgaauw.be/ http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 12:38:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4EA3F3BF8C; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 12:38:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=raNK/58ku7q5v+0FtVflGUgORhiEIM/F10786x4HMKY=; b=kEl2agO45VmJlmOowYuo8NqIfwMSflZDTUNzI3yhRMqEv4QCp32R/bBMhCOR1KNKMP Ow7l2omKqCiZW8c6MmdlpYUw1j3GJgw6npTZeLzCJgy2HszQF8q9/mSfjnIuQftOIVvp gN989cy/dh55HTmzqxMZFxw+0Jbn00trBtICk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=aKTl+y8D4uQxDc6P7AWuALVAWacjiB5HUUXUV7ogMwKTcM3ghufUH0gXzyhav9h72n RCz0n61rrtqJ/CbCuyUUmmOMjC3i/PD6jtZAdUpI7KJ2V3MqnjozzeMDV7pV4S0n+jWS /FwuGbg6Wvl9uxSIvFu4O0aSZnZy8mPXr/06M= Message-ID: <9e0440a60808010538v4e4d0f09kd26d4845f07e1fff@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 08:38:06 -0400 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New Chinapainting release - Night Blooming Cereus In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4217_13633137.1217594286705" References: <004701c8f305$4eca83a0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> <4891C340.1090305@mhorse.com> <66f9cc1e0807311337v5cb41f0fg7bbc106bf1786dc4@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60807311342v270eb8d2lbf724acae229627f@mail.gmail.com> <003701c8f351$c66b23f0$4101a8c0@STUDIO1> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82440 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 12:38:16 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_4217_13633137.1217594286705 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline RIcky and Raul thanks so much for the positive words. Jim On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 5:40 AM, Raul Bonell wrote: > my vote for the same title track. good inspiration and execution. > > raul. > > 2008/7/31 Ricky Graham > > Enjoyed the clips also! >> >> Good work. >> >> Ricky >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Jim Goodin >> *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> *Sent:* Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:42 PM >> *Subject:* Re: New Chinapainting release - Night Blooming Cereus >> >> Per thanks so much man, we're very jazzed about this record. Appreciate >> you taking time to give an electronic spin. >> >> Best >> >> Jim >> >> On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Daryl Shawn wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com/music.htm >>>> >>> >>> >>> Hey, China guys - this is good! Some really beautiful moments in those >>> clips. >>> >>> -- >>> Greetings from Sweden >>> >>> Per Boysen >>> www.boysen.se (Swedish) >>> www.looproom.com (international) >>> www.myspace.com/perboysen >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com >> MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic >> Chinapainting - >> http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com >> Chinapainting on My Space - >> http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com >> The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - >> http://www.woodandwiremusic.com >> Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull >> Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel >> Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG. >> Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.5.8/1582 - Release Date: 30/07/2008 >> 18:37 >> >> > > > -- > The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra > TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com > -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com ------=_Part_4217_13633137.1217594286705 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
RIcky and Raul thanks so much for the positive words.  Jim

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 5:40 AM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:
my vote for the same title track. 
good inspiration and execution. 

raul.

2008/7/31 Ricky Graham <rock.guitar.guru@btinternet.com>

Enjoyed the clips also!
 
Good work.
 
Ricky
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Goodin
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: New Chinapainting release - Night Blooming Cereus

Per thanks so much man, we're very jazzed about this record.  Appreciate you taking time to give an electronic spin.
 
Best
 
Jim

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:


On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Daryl Shawn <highhorse@mhorse.com> wrote:

http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com/music.htm


Hey, China guys - this is good! Some really beautiful moments in those clips.

--
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (international)
www.myspace.com/perboysen




--
The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com

No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG.
Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.5.8/1582 - Release Date: 30/07/2008 18:37




--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com



--
The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com
------=_Part_4217_13633137.1217594286705-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 12:40:30 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 48C333BF8E; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 12:40:30 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:mime-version:content-type:x-google-sender-auth; bh=Tspan4uF+q4Lnq++IMEwlkuFZMFXydpODDxanyTbPsY=; b=QAJ3EM6pj2wCIE9dED0mUNxLoqxKvyR1/pOpJTStLihvVKX7AuV3ciz/uhSiiq1dVM uHQPS9cjLlsVGW9NqHP7DFHVY8kGjsrKsrdbImwcWK+HVUJYf6yFBOeQXlqHOhW+aot1 K5hggb/GnkwLuvXYFFRR+NFZdtc015U0d0PiU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :x-google-sender-auth; b=mKAlozuoHti8B1aHKngr/RGg9zOoTGBGTUA2hhWcpzW1rXeioyO48k3e95/jz+RFAL +EoiTg3L6mVLqAASkoGWCKNvTxTNG/SntHywCmlocsCmzPyMiNn3VQRScRiBY+9dO99p 0/JOHTVlzDwilEU3No2fYN4ONbiSnd69NfmDo= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0808010540y4efcaba8l5c2be03ac7fde153@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 14:40:28 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: loopers-delight Subject: whats the smallest midi controller??? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4180_1009092.1217594428123" X-Google-Sender-Auth: 1459c6e4b138d75b Resent-Message-ID: <9pBe-C.A.ViB.-QwkIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82441 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 12:40:30 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_4180_1009092.1217594428123 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline What is the smallest midi controller there is? (Knobs!) Needs maybe 4 knobs and programmable patches.Im needing 4 extra knobs on my Repeater, so i can do pitching and slipping at the same time... any ideas? -- www.markfrancombe.com www.looop.no ------=_Part_4180_1009092.1217594428123 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
What is the smallest midi controller there is? (Knobs!) Needs maybe 4 knobs and programmable patches.Im needing 4 extra knobs on my Repeater, so i can do pitching and slipping at the same time... any ideas?

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www.markfrancombe.com
www.looop.no
------=_Part_4180_1009092.1217594428123-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 12:54:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4E5EC3BF91; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 12:54:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=HH2ZG4S1ld0fFhlmgiwZfcwWNLGEiG6DdtuY2mbHjqQkZNw/39u3ME0Gl1p6FcgfIMguRlCCq0vzS1sHWNQF91u7KvzkHGRjZyI73XUZNmbWnfnZJX9K7iZ0AEF4Y6KAAHrbiKbLzCl1WAtr6sK1marxWCkGTEEv0NU3Ts0p2kY=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 05:54:43 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re: MIDI foot controllers To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4892DEDB.2080604@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <747132.35221.qm@web38607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82442 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 12:54:46 +0000 (UTC) Hi Andy, although i recall you had yours modified, right? also i remeber you mentioning something about not being quite satisfied with the switches,not as quiet or something to that effect,also the way the switches are layed out on the gordius looks a bit ackward to me, how is it compared to the FCB1010? www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Fri, 8/1/08, andy butler wrote: > From: andy butler > Subject: Re: MIDI foot controllers > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Friday, August 1, 2008, 3:00 AM > Bob Amstadt wrote: > > The Gordius Little Giant is amazingly programmable. I > haven't tried to > > use it with an EDP, but it is an amazing device and > much smaller than > > the FCB1010. > > It's excellent for the edp. > ( I replaced my fcb with one a while back) > > > ...but expensive !!!! > > for me, it's worth it, for the weight saved > and the possibility of edp tricks. > > > > > andy butler > > > > > > If you want to build your own MIDI controller, there > is excellent > > information here: http://www.ucapps.de/ > > > > Bob Amstadt > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 13:05:14 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 06B913BF97; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:05:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=Y1yksce1Ete3vu1vabBW3We6p31b0a8KKdgqlMdEBnaejDXkCYTKysp+Ge3aU/DHem/428QFnxYt1N0qaoUZWJ5Y5q5o0Kib9LfTzJveT66Syy9MeohzrpP7JRHsRFUSrHGr30vzHCy7Glyblfj1t5NkKnbNGSgSS7mHmwoDDXo=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 06:05:11 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Fw: Re:MIDI foot controllers (was: Echoplex Digital Pro Plus) To: Loopers Delight MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <609386.53500.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82443 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:05:13 +0000 (UTC) Sjaak, The FCB1010 new Uno software gives you the possibility to set the switches in stompbox mode so you can see current status of the device you want to control.You can set the switches to function as momentary,or toggle,this could help your situation with the LP1 i tried it and is really great because i dont have to be looking at my EDP,but at the moment i have the FCB1010 in normal mode because i am also controlling my effects proccessor and i would have to sacrifice a lot of the EDP functions,so what i am thinking of doing is either getting a floor fx proccessor and use the FCB in stompbox exclusively for the EDP. The Ripwerx software editor is also wonderful and makes the fcb1010 programming "kinderleicht"! Cheers Luis > > As a keyboard player it's very difficult to know > > what's going on with my LP1 on stage. It build in > a 6HE > > 19" rack and standing on the floor at the right > site, > > I'm playing piano so it's can't see the > track > > leds very well. For example: current track, track > status > > etc. And as a result of that, things go wrong. > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 13:18:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1F28D3BF94; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:18:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=6eJ3aLvbmOMy3MCG9p3oL8bIQip44yYCLePoxzaFsZ0=; b=ab+e+5QuXCO2DXu/sAQvWzKg2MBOigKzqZaP4c8E25AEmz+JPLaTlZl4OSNDZweChl ejsZtov422l2gEoERPGhpHPMS1KN8yNpuKWTYlet/oiXhgcAr1cc0QV3n6493KK6uu9P ie5KpBvi7kzc+l18ZnvsF/LxgeKPkrgjHIVco= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=YouqZfXCDd1Rm34qEYsS3+DGlth/s6q2kTegQb5vLrcFCboIkXulOs+Hg1slfw5Apo qBR8vGx6v0Dfd5+RsfFjXNktqKJJKxi9NUE35L9zkUNb+N1bX358JglkPrztOpm/kWP7 oVASBCAc1RvuYuadUkR7L53pndTMnDtGdg4Vs= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 15:18:44 +0200 From: Vocaloop.com Sender: vocaloop@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: alternate foot controllers for the Echoplex Digital Pro Plus In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: X-Google-Sender-Auth: 71c97520ff51420c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82444 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:18:46 +0000 (UTC) >and a desktop controller which I can put on top of my piano with maybe 10 stomp box >switches with LED's to control a rack looper. I don't know yet... http://www.thomann.de/be/behringer_bcn_44_bcontrol_nano.htm 8 switches, not 10 but with 4 encoders, very light, very cheap..(29 euros) greetings, Sanne From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 13:20:01 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E2CAE3BF9C; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:20:01 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=pb63mrvK2PplheoqhQXMORCURfFYAUJm+8PbqLnBU6Q=; b=KbNZeC4UhEuPX/eMX9lCrxEwCxMsvx1TGn7E3HmPooAUZLt6bmhKqwnjBMyIVyRbz7 Pt6ToUt2wdx6fKF6KC31BbcYoVOnRkugn6yk5XlSUhIH2B2lcBbjiJsLZvlAgOnnWsE/ GOU7D2feO/rsq/t9Q6ejSDyGYlLAdM5a/Uq5E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=T4dM35/Hh2NzEBbVfBBY3eZP3b/ELDhGOWsAkNt1aXVJe7NPO2mNuKxVdDGvFX7nt0 ad03HJFy5QQxNksH6wIAz6AqL6G7kRNJTzRNWTvIvnZCJqFoKu8Gn8rinn9eFTfX42BZ UJi9p4H/81NcgVz1JjPeeu9dNPZg/ttxC1h58= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808010620r28de0635h6ca964d3fb6a4371@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 15:20:00 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: whats the smallest midi controller??? In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0808010540y4efcaba8l5c2be03ac7fde153@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <9ab0c76f0808010540y4efcaba8l5c2be03ac7fde153@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82445 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:20:01 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 2:40 PM, mark francombe wrote: > What is the smallest midi controller there is? (Knobs!) Needs maybe 4 knobs > and programmable patches.Im needing 4 extra knobs on my Repeater, so i can > do pitching and slipping at the same time... any ideas? Yes, not only and idea - I can even recommend it! http://faderfox.de/ -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 13:21:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4EF273BFA2; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:21:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 55969462/mk-filter-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.231.202 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.231.202 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AioBANyqkkhPTufK/2dsb2JhbAAIiximIYNQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,293,1215385200"; d="scan'208";a="55969462" Message-ID: <48930DE4.5030503@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 14:21:40 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: MIDI foot controllers Gorduis References: <747132.35221.qm@web38607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <747132.35221.qm@web38607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82446 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:21:35 +0000 (UTC) hi Luis, Yes, I had the button layout modified so that I have 2 rows of 5 switches for sending commands. I'm satisfied with the switches, if you hit them as hard as you need to hit the fcb1010 they make a bit more noise ...but you don't need to hit them anywhere near as hard. ...if you push them really slowly they are more or less silent, but of course that's not much use for accurately timed loops. The switches are really solid, and respond very well, making it somewhat easier to be rhythmically precise. I know I went on about the noise a bit to much, but only because another correspondent kept insisting that they are silent ;-) and in reply to sjaak the Gordius Little Giant is aimed at Loopers as well as guitarists! Xavier's been seriously taking on board my suggestions to this end. andy butler ps, Luis, you need to take your email address out of the field in your mail browser if you want reply's to go to the list rather than just to you. L.A. Angulo wrote: > Hi Andy, > although i recall you had yours modified, right? also i remeber you mentioning something about not being quite satisfied with the switches,not as quiet or something to that effect,also the way the switches are layed out on the gordius looks a bit ackward to me, how is it compared to the FCB1010? > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > --- On Fri, 8/1/08, andy butler wrote: > >> From: andy butler >> Subject: Re: MIDI foot controllers >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Date: Friday, August 1, 2008, 3:00 AM >> Bob Amstadt wrote: >>> The Gordius Little Giant is amazingly programmable. I >> haven't tried to >>> use it with an EDP, but it is an amazing device and >> much smaller than >>> the FCB1010. >> It's excellent for the edp. >> ( I replaced my fcb with one a while back) >> >> >> ...but expensive !!!! >> >> for me, it's worth it, for the weight saved >> and the possibility of edp tricks. >> >> >> >> >> andy butler >> >> >>> If you want to build your own MIDI controller, there >> is excellent >>> information here: http://www.ucapps.de/ >>> >>> Bob Amstadt >>> > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 13:23:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 191EF3BF9D; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:23:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=b8G8YulUHi99M/x12ECENpeFN6R3w9+4PVQMmDv/xHg=; b=KrUfFgWa5tS27MCSxGJO6BcZ0KIdKIAQICfOCw5K4chD2Ah9jiACe9zaCM0DrOrjWJ GwaMKUiG1LK83ohftj5MU1S9iUTVRaFXJ9KMiQZ/+Mv5K5qdUFnqPACcQ7jubiqVjsZO TkULXb0ID41YtpRU2qofSNRZn6U18p73xHqpk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=ffcdEKAlsZ3EQOwCFVAHk+P+iq3A8mxx3gkjGbgIEjYC689RezX3fASHYcCoBOEdFJ NeEdt9/pP5isjnJ4eUlneQm+u9w9AoS3kcFMCFaDMniI3EB7RTO1Q1QlPx0zXR5HRr2K 3B4adhTlpsThCAJkQWeVzj1pdEJysxlqKZyQE= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 15:23:44 +0200 From: Vocaloop.com Sender: vocaloop@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: whats the smallest midi controller??? In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808010620r28de0635h6ca964d3fb6a4371@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <9ab0c76f0808010540y4efcaba8l5c2be03ac7fde153@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808010620r28de0635h6ca964d3fb6a4371@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: e85cf6e7de01934c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82447 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:23:45 +0000 (UTC) See my other post ;-) Probably somewhat bigger than the faderfox but cheaper: http://www.thomann.de/gb/behringer_bcn_44_bcontrol_nano.htm greetings, Sanne On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 3:20 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 2:40 PM, mark francombe wrote: >> What is the smallest midi controller there is? (Knobs!) Needs maybe 4 knobs >> and programmable patches.Im needing 4 extra knobs on my Repeater, so i can >> do pitching and slipping at the same time... any ideas? > > > Yes, not only and idea - I can even recommend it! > http://faderfox.de/ > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 13:28:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 811733BFA4; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:28:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=default; d=kevinkissinger.com; h=Received:Received:Message-ID:Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Disposition:Content-Transfer-Encoding:User-Agent:X-Identified-User; b=y3GGjPr6N9S/kQrKgstcb+JuG2sA0nvO0cLdNeV920JajTLaXgjZofYPklJDpPkJ/pbd16H1mTzueKzQ9ECgCqGo9J1xPanyZDFY2iLV3kHg0Zx7cPAo3HY1B1litw+T; Message-ID: <20080801082834.tbt27di6g40ogkw0@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 08:28:34 -0500 From: kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New Chinapainting release - Night Blooming Cereus References: <004701c8f305$4eca83a0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> <4891C340.1090305@mhorse.com> In-Reply-To: <4891C340.1090305@mhorse.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.6) X-Identified-User: {1031:box76.bluehost.com:cpanelhorde:box76.bluehost.com} {sentby:program running on server} Resent-Message-ID: <4f776D.A.vpC.H-wkIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82448 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:28:39 +0000 (UTC) I'm just here at the office enjoying your tracks. Very nice! The music reminds me of Japanese Koto music -- that is, the tonality and the meditative aspect of the music brings the Koto music to mind. The title "Night Blooming Cereus" seems a great fit for the music. -- Kevin Quoting Daryl Shawn : > > It's on the whole more meditative and quiet than our live shows have > been, for whatever reason. Personally, I love it and consider it one of > the best recordings I've been a part of. Samples and stuff here (it'll > be on iTunes and eMusic in a few weeks): > > http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com/music.htm > > Daryl Shawn > www.swanwelder.com > www.chinapaintingmusic.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 13:34:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CB2C33BFAB; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:34:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 52283723/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.231.202 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.231.202 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AioBAI+tkkhPTufK/2dsb2JhbAAIiximHYNQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,293,1215385200"; d="scan'208";a="52283723" Message-ID: <489310F8.1050000@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 14:34:48 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: whats the smallest midi controller??? References: <9ab0c76f0808010540y4efcaba8l5c2be03ac7fde153@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808010620r28de0635h6ca964d3fb6a4371@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82449 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:34:39 +0000 (UTC) but Per loves that little joystick on the Faderfox :-) andy Vocaloop.com wrote: > See my other post ;-) Probably somewhat bigger than the faderfox but cheaper: > > http://www.thomann.de/gb/behringer_bcn_44_bcontrol_nano.htm > > greetings, Sanne > > On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 3:20 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 2:40 PM, mark francombe wrote: >>> What is the smallest midi controller there is? (Knobs!) Needs maybe 4 knobs >>> and programmable patches.Im needing 4 extra knobs on my Repeater, so i can >>> do pitching and slipping at the same time... any ideas? >> >> Yes, not only and idea - I can even recommend it! >> http://faderfox.de/ >> >> -- >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se (Swedish) >> www.looproom.com (international) >> www.myspace.com/perboysen >> >> > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 14:04:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 553B73BFA9; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 14:04:07 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=fs2/Bp2F5Yy5P8Q16rq0Bg1UVbvX4fCNpQIXm6lql7g=; b=vextNmSl76qt+ywHpeYNuxTV6fud76VldrUHLZZJR5f1YLgq5obtdx0hhrTOg4t24h 3g6xt/w85NgIDGbICZjhsoVgzUzKppvK7FzpTBQIvd/lSLesgVGNQDpC/hflsAkxhCfY L+64Pb/RN1INqXsUIpMqkYvJkMD+i0vEBayb4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=QK04fPhFN4FzvYGalvF6/NNaeJLi9uhJKiSg+Ds1gw0ydaR8vgXcBOlTtjOHcrZUwx PtKD4jvi8W3MiH1CZiubrAoI09/vnEtNle+zJp49REFP+KstTuAAi3gWGhXS6KIsjsHy X+IXoRY0Kb5JIy1NksX4jHwNyfWR/XF+z27Fc= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0808010704u6ac02b37q19ea90a7c49b5c67@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 16:04:04 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: whats the smallest midi controller??? 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How many times do we have to say it?? The behriger wins on Price yet again!! On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 3:34 PM, andy butler wrote: > but Per loves that little joystick on the Faderfox :-) > > > > andy > > > > Vocaloop.com wrote: > >> See my other post ;-) Probably somewhat bigger than the faderfox but >> cheaper: >> >> http://www.thomann.de/gb/behringer_bcn_44_bcontrol_nano.htm >> >> greetings, Sanne >> >> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 3:20 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 2:40 PM, mark francombe >>> wrote: >>> >>>> What is the smallest midi controller there is? (Knobs!) Needs maybe 4 >>>> knobs >>>> and programmable patches.Im needing 4 extra knobs on my Repeater, so i >>>> can >>>> do pitching and slipping at the same time... any ideas? >>>> >>> >>> Yes, not only and idea - I can even recommend it! >>> http://faderfox.de/ >>> >>> -- >>> Greetings from Sweden >>> >>> Per Boysen >>> www.boysen.se (Swedish) >>> www.looproom.com (international) >>> www.myspace.com/perboysen >>> >>> >>> >> >> > -- www.markfrancombe.com www.looop.no ------=_Part_5303_3232012.1217599444188 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
ys i saw the faderfox in action when Per was playing... Liked it, but IM TALKING TINY!!!! Aint there anything REALLY SMALL?? Like matchbox small?

How many times do we have to say it?? The behriger wins on Price yet again!!



On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 3:34 PM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
but Per loves that little joystick on the Faderfox :-)



andy



Vocaloop.com wrote:
See my other post ;-) Probably somewhat bigger than the faderfox but cheaper:

http://www.thomann.de/gb/behringer_bcn_44_bcontrol_nano.htm

greetings, Sanne

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 3:20 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 2:40 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
What is the smallest midi controller there is? (Knobs!) Needs maybe 4 knobs
and programmable patches.Im needing 4 extra knobs on my Repeater, so i can
do pitching and slipping at the same time... any ideas?

Yes, not only and idea - I can even recommend it!
http://faderfox.de/

--
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (international)
www.myspace.com/perboysen








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www.markfrancombe.com
www.looop.no
------=_Part_5303_3232012.1217599444188-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 14:07:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 616B03BFA8; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 14:07:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 15:07:39 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Re: whats the smallest midi controller??? MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 217.68.49.65 X-DCC--Metrics: sif; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82451 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 14:07:41 +0000 (UTC) > Vocaloop.com wrote: > See my other post ;-) Probably somewhat bigger than the faderfox but ch= eaper: > > http://www.thomann.de/gb/behringer_bcn_44_bcontrol_nano.htm > > Per wrote: > Yes, not only and idea - I can even recommend it! > http://faderfox.de/ Sanne, thanks! I did know about the bcn 44 but thougth you could program = 4 buttons..it appears to be 8 and that's a lot better! The BCR/BCF-2000 c= ontrollers are even better but also a lot bigger. Per: These DJ faderboxex looks interesting too. I see they are custom mad= e for both Tractor and Live...might work well with an LP1 too, I could ma= ybe use the faders to control volume or feedback. How flexible are they r= egarding the midi functions? --- Sjaak http://www.livelooping.be/ http://www.overgaauw.be/ http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 14:22:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E5D2F3BFAD; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 14:22:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 15:22:15 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Re: MIDI foot controllers Gorduis MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 217.68.49.65 X-DCC--Metrics: sif; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82452 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 14:22:16 +0000 (UTC) Hi Andy, > and in reply to sjaak > the Gordius Little Giant is aimed at Loopers as well as guitarists! > Xavier's been seriously taking on board my suggestions to this end. I like the Gordius Little Giant because of it's midi capabilities but I play keyboards and I'm wondering if I could place it on top of my stage= piano and use the switches without getting blue fingers! :) --- Sjaak http://www.livelooping.be/ http://www.overgaauw.be/ http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 14:38:57 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3BF643BFB2; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 14:38:57 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:from:to:subject :date:mime-version:content-type:x-priority:x-msmail-priority :importance:x-mailer:x-mimeole; bh=FYqIf0b5jaWdapiyXWxpg4vLdnUAjZ48fGxqKbR36GQ=; b=WwghrpOcZE1h2AywtbH+gb3DvIBOXsetTTO/h+Kf/RSuZ6ovC6pHYL+N7bBGHJOKbi /1KIxFzIk7oICDKL7VvJW6GisIeOgioaWGq9lAKQNi4Oc2CXKzYGkqiroSqd5E5/gtpk +s9Lv2N/8sxnaAFyHAym8NKmDIZIROnANurYM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:from:to:subject:date:mime-version:content-type :x-priority:x-msmail-priority:importance:x-mailer:x-mimeole; b=D5smZ6ZWoCJNiv2/Bd3dsytFdo1IGfz09GC5TEo0N+vLn+4k1u5+LJ8mKj4PWIJaGZ 4RAZz7inlSLFzF6uDQMOXRumJriNVksJmZvRhL2DMioNT7GlvND/ld+exbjsZ91k57qM 2IvEnfjoNhGnNvnUWzooI7GxBbVPLvkj1UZdc= Message-ID: From: "projektGmail" To: Subject: Wanted Echoplex digital pro plus Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 16:38:54 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001D_01C8F3F5.165845C0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82453 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 14:38:57 +0000 (UTC) Dit is een meerdelig bericht in de MIME-indeling. ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C8F3F5.165845C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Loopers I want buy another EDP (for stereo use) but Gibson discontinued the = product. Does anyone know where to get a New EDP. Simon=20 www.projekt67.com ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C8F3F5.165845C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Loopers
 
I want buy another EDP (for stereo use) = but Gibson=20 discontinued the product.
Does anyone know where to get a New=20 EDP.
 
Simon
 
www.projekt67.com
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C8F3F5.165845C0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 15:15:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2115C3BFB6; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 15:15:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=liomjneOwiBL8wF1U+0NPVD/dCfFQYsX4U6LWdm5G84=; b=JNxCH838/RKxAqW0dOwCZ0yMWW8NajbMpHVYJDVHYaYEqqdWBjnSl0kEmN66Upcz3U ptinSC9a6pezmAbU3jnCQ9Iho5l/aAw0v7HUfCq4tDi9f6S+TuUTGZpG9D1MdAPr/sFs Si/9L4Lj19GKYtt7FKCUJVw+d3+mNg5JSI8bY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=hcMQHwPQgH7cE++Tyh3PbrC9fR7dID19kbgyok7klkO3IPkz3pxO4eXPXxJCW768YS b2zt7ZeQVWEh9UBAXiShtXihSMafV7Mvf6nc0xcjAAbxt3sKXMQLu1vIDxDbI3BbbtFk 6cpcbBRk8mS2Qas+WrqTek8SSev20ZhmDZiI4= Message-ID: <9e0440a60808010815w6599703cpc776f231fd60bcf@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:15:02 -0400 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New Chinapainting release - Night Blooming Cereus In-Reply-To: <20080801082834.tbt27di6g40ogkw0@mail.kevinkissinger.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_6662_17295057.1217603702389" References: <004701c8f305$4eca83a0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> <4891C340.1090305@mhorse.com> <20080801082834.tbt27di6g40ogkw0@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82454 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 15:15:05 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_6662_17295057.1217603702389 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Kevin thank you. Interesting re the Koto though not on this record I'm playing a lot of oud right now and using it on our current live shows and in all prob it will figure into our future recording work. Anyhow Kevin thank you for all your thoughts and taking time to listen to our NBC. It's so bizarre to me how the plant figured in to all this but speaks volumes about our balance between chinapainting living on-line through the Net and live when we can arrange getting together. how goes Mr Thermin? best Jim On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 9:28 AM, wrote: > I'm just here at the office enjoying your tracks. > > Very nice! The music reminds me of Japanese Koto music -- that is, the > tonality and the meditative aspect of the music brings the Koto music to > mind. > > The title "Night Blooming Cereus" seems a great fit for the music. > > -- Kevin > > > Quoting Daryl Shawn : > >> >> It's on the whole more meditative and quiet than our live shows have >> been, for whatever reason. Personally, I love it and consider it one of >> the best recordings I've been a part of. Samples and stuff here (it'll >> be on iTunes and eMusic in a few weeks): >> >> http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com/music.htm >> >> Daryl Shawn >> www.swanwelder.com >> www.chinapaintingmusic.com >> > > > > -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com ------=_Part_6662_17295057.1217603702389 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Kevin thank you.  Interesting re the Koto though not on this record I'm playing a lot of oud right now and using it on our current live shows and in all prob it will figure into our future recording work.
 
Anyhow Kevin thank  you for all your thoughts and taking time to listen to our NBC.  It's so bizarre to me how the plant figured in to all this but speaks volumes about our balance between chinapainting living on-line through the Net and live when we can arrange getting together.
 
how goes Mr Thermin?
 
best
 
Jim

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 9:28 AM, <kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com> wrote:
I'm just here at the office enjoying your tracks.

Very nice!  The music reminds me of Japanese Koto music -- that is, the tonality and the meditative aspect of the music brings the Koto music to mind.

The title "Night Blooming Cereus" seems a great fit for the music.

-- Kevin


Quoting Daryl Shawn <highhorse@mhorse.com>:

It's on the whole more meditative and quiet than our live shows have
been, for whatever reason. Personally, I love it and consider it one of
the best recordings I've been a part of. Samples and stuff here (it'll
be on iTunes and eMusic in a few weeks):

http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com/music.htm

Daryl Shawn
www.swanwelder.com
www.chinapaintingmusic.com






--
The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com
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Blank Check® is a registered trademark of Pay-Pal. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 15:43:00 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CFB793BFB4; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 15:43:00 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=L54a4ZGa+2e1Q2pZSAYh1nszK0RPFK5K+HGiQLwa2T0=; b=RA3DgGe13NEWUd8xjFZmCF3ACcRUa6v/vToUHJAktHs/pk9/5zTygCROpn6Qcyr/rV NQ4zY/Um+6s2ciKjC6OHA1yZF2TqnRaD68vPz/F2ATJW/rdcjMB0FyuLpxOR4l/YUr7b QJWWSutN4LzcLjBs3b5YFGChNR1BPwrq2ylIo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=nb6AIpkMcp11P5TD2/62c9uOI6eAc0ziD3hUX+NWrSpKI22XhkNNjsaU+G9xoXqRtR AyXJDFRQfi19GYF7RVSych++dNzYOtyN1vRNfSNEFWHk4iIlgDJT6MzHulG0JwNIJ5Ht WuML1VWNkm8+0kTpmAyH4kS3LhL2hsRhLuyP0= Message-ID: <9c3ebb9b0808010842y4d1c649dkc2de30c39c771d9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:42:54 -0400 From: "Loaf citious" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Echoplex Digital Pro Plus MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_17645_20060235.1217605374662" Resent-Message-ID: <3UDScD.A.BbF.E8ykIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82456 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 15:43:00 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_17645_20060235.1217605374662 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Guess I'm replying to the original post about being frustrated w/ the FC-7. Took that thing up to the mountains last weekend and it freaked out - had to repeatedly tap the record (and others) until it seemed to "warm up" That experience completely sucked the magic out of the whole thing. It worked eventually. But, this happed right when I got it! Out of the box I was having funny experiences w/ some of the buttons. Is this thing so sensitive that it's effected by dust? Altitude? Temp? WHAT?!?! (or is that the Musicians Friend Special I'm tasting?) I remember someone on this list a while back mentioning that they replaced the little red plastic buttons w/ some sturdy metal ones. Did it help? Did it make it more reliable? I'm going to try to dig up that post but, if was you and you could tell me the name/brand/kind of button you used I'd be grateful. Thanks, AndyGarber ------=_Part_17645_20060235.1217605374662 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

Guess I'm replying to the original post about being frustrated w/ the FC-7.  Took that thing up to the mountains last weekend and it freaked out  - had to repeatedly tap the record (and others) until it seemed to "warm up"  That experience completely sucked the magic out of the whole thing.  It worked eventually.

But, this happed right when I got it!  Out of the box I was having funny experiences w/ some of the buttons.  Is this thing so sensitive that it's effected by dust? Altitude? Temp? WHAT?!?!
(or is that the Musicians Friend Special I'm tasting?)

I remember someone on this list a while back mentioning that they replaced the little red plastic buttons w/ some sturdy metal ones. Did it help? Did it make it more reliable?

I'm going to try to dig up that post but, if was you and you could tell me the name/brand/kind of button you used I'd be grateful.

Thanks,
AndyGarber
------=_Part_17645_20060235.1217605374662-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 15:59:46 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id AC6F53BFAF; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 15:59:46 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <489332F1.7010208@mhorse.com> Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 11:59:45 -0400 From: Daryl Shawn User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.14 (Windows/20071210) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New Chinapainting release - Night Blooming Cereus References: <004701c8f305$4eca83a0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> <4891C340.1090305@mhorse.com> <20080801082834.tbt27di6g40ogkw0@mail.kevinkissinger.com> In-Reply-To: <20080801082834.tbt27di6g40ogkw0@mail.kevinkissinger.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82457 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 15:59:46 +0000 (UTC) thanks to all for giving it a listen, and the kind words, much appreciated! Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com www.chinapaintingmusic.com > I'm just here at the office enjoying your tracks. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 16:04:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D41EC3BFBE; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 16:04:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: FW: New Delta at Cabrillo Music festival sunday,Aug 3rd @ SC Civic Auditorium Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:03:12 -0700 Message-ID: <005601c8f3f0$1d869900$6601a8c0@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0057_01C8F3B5.7127C100" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: Acjzm3eYO7jhtTxkRqSa5UzgJO4BEAAU79Ww Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82458 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 16:04:24 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0057_01C8F3B5.7127C100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings, Music lover's, I'm happy announce that Myself, my brother Rick Walker, and Gary Regina will be playing on Sunday evening August 3rd in front of the Santa Cruz Civic Auditorium on Church street in downtown Santa Cruz as part of the Cabrillo music festival, we start at 5:15 and the performance is free. We will be performing as New Delta, and playing music inspired by our mutual love of world music traditions. For the looping enthusiasts, there will be much looping, both synchronous and non synchronous. Hope to see you there thanks Bill Walker ------=_NextPart_000_0057_01C8F3B5.7127C100 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 

Greetings,   Music = lover’s,

 I’m happy announce that Myself, my = brother Rick Walker, and Gary Regina will be = playing on Sunday evening August 3rd in front of the Santa Cruz Civic Auditorium on Church street in downtown Santa Cruz  as part of the Cabrillo music festival, we start at 5:15 and the performance is free. = We will be performing as New Delta, and playing music inspired by our mutual = love of world music traditions.  For the looping  enthusiasts, there = will be much looping,  both synchronous and non = synchronous.

 Hope to see you there =  thanks

 Bill Walker

------=_NextPart_000_0057_01C8F3B5.7127C100-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 16:14:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 26E003BFC2; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 16:14:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Reply-To: From: "William Walker" To: Subject: New Delta @ Cabrillo Music festival Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:14:09 -0700 Message-ID: <008b01c8f3f1$a42b53f0$6601a8c0@williamsteed> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_008C_01C8F3B6.F7CC7BF0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Thread-Index: Acjz8aEKoMmdj3RCReSBSnhbMsMOqg== Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82459 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 16:14:13 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_008C_01C8F3B6.F7CC7BF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings, Music lover's, I'm happy announce that Myself, my brother Rick Walker, and Gary Regina will be playing on Sunday evening August 3rd in front of the Santa Cruz Civic Auditorium on Church street in downtown Santa Cruz as part of the Cabrillo music festival, we start at 5:15 and the performance is free. We will be performing as New Delta, and playing music inspired by our mutual love of world music traditions. For the looping enthusiasts, there will be much looping, both synchronous and non synchronous. Hope to see you there Thanks Bill Walker ------=_NextPart_000_008C_01C8F3B6.F7CC7BF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 

Greetings,   Music = lover’s,

 I’m happy announce that Myself, my = brother Rick Walker, and Gary Regina will be = playing on Sunday evening August 3rd in front of the Santa Cruz Civic Auditorium on Church street in downtown Santa Cruz  as part of the Cabrillo music festival, we start at 5:15 and the performance is free. = We will be performing as New Delta, and playing music inspired by our mutual = love of world music traditions.  For the looping  enthusiasts, there = will be much looping,  both synchronous and non = synchronous.

 Hope to see you = there

  Thanks

 Bill Walker

 

------=_NextPart_000_008C_01C8F3B6.F7CC7BF0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 16:18:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 77F323BFBA; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 16:18:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; bh=pKBgTqmKnpTjm3QfwT2Z2Jnwkqnmgw3icGNPcEbIv3M=; b=v7nHa2CQtmYjRqqz73BMxgyl+kLvHGPP0IJlTSXAsEySiu2dvnpsbXrYc3+AhQZK4n hekUhHSQuvI/bxv3TIIQD9R2/9ysH6A9fdIVbvM9ZN5GWMyr/eQX0zyjwa127JBnefIA S0n9/EfyGhXi2XHznZynL2MP0Wh7+8lug7L2U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:x-google-sender-auth; b=qvlw2deqEW+i4tR3X2Btoe4mZD+6J8mn/EBPE3DKEiZGIVsAi1TwoejRgJM1xM6EBQ zd50BwQJHjLKMuuSlQGGpPKxmgVa/WAK+/SzKGYdv6dRa3TFOFcRcSvjwK4/pw6PZzJ6 ct8Yteb/AzU0o1cAzwK5U76j2xvYdwMZn7F5o= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 17:18:46 +0100 From: Os Sender: expertsleepers@googlemail.com To: "Loopers Delight" Subject: atmospheric guitar looping MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Google-Sender-Auth: f1587a5e04c9a249 Resent-Message-ID: <5rbbLD.A.dRG.ndzkIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82460 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 16:18:47 +0000 (UTC) Hi all, I try not to spam the list every time I upload music, but I'm particularly pleased with the latest Darkroom podcast episode. Just some live guitar, with me looping & processing that guitar live in Ableton Live. Live! http://feeds.feedburner.com/FreeMusicFromDarkroom or http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=116026367&s=143444 Enjoy! cheers, os. -- os@collective.co.uk http://www.darkroomtheband.net/ http://www.expert-sleepers.co.uk/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 16:30:30 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E42A93BFB8; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 16:30:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=J_zaVKqlKJqxHUl5nLkA:9 a=gdn6xhC7G7xsWvqEacqjZMcyWHwA:4 a=E0t0X0QyNCQA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Chris Sewell Subject: Back to Basics. I love it. Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 12:30:28 -0400 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82461 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 16:30:29 +0000 (UTC) Ah, EDP questions! Midi Foot Controller discussions! I love it. I was getting worried with all the talk of ebows on pianos. (seriously, wtf?). From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 16:44:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 88C2D3BFBD; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 16:44:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=P42zGYInen94L0/gYz+obLL1whOK6xO54d9d4upJnyQ=; b=m0R2OIXSzgiWL9srrA2Tks982nQZjquJbQJFaNfes9+M734kbiC8QN7VcJHgiQgTrk Q5eVNa1uf/y+HTvJf9lESxn3wNsBzYwojcVMlumthTzEcvaMQ2dTBLd0rmU/g1/k+eNd eR4Dy/a7+TM23TEdKNyLWomNaEsrOIQe6OK/A= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=wU9z0I9o2s1TptyMWK76FaQvnyIvVnsXu59SAx+sM+wgM6vUO1xKgJlH6Yhoe7sz02 oqtZSgNwVXr8IrUNDx8Wab6xXbX92pPF2/GNyKUVsWrHW8fm5C01kKHexBoPnuunNDhI l9PuivbSkp7h26Rfv9nReRVv3oHTK2Ppauric= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:44:09 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Echoplex Digital Pro Plus In-Reply-To: <9c3ebb9b0808010842y4d1c649dkc2de30c39c771d9@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_6393_24259783.1217609049925" References: <9c3ebb9b0808010842y4d1c649dkc2de30c39c771d9@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82462 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 16:44:11 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_6393_24259783.1217609049925 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Any piece of electrical equipment will be affected by dust to some degree or another. The EDP switches were carefully selected for a number of reasons: fast response, acoustically quiet, short throw, easy to replace, inexpensive to purchase, readily available. The downside is that they are more prone to dirt getting in them. Usually you can spray some contact cleaner in the switch and work it a few dozen times and that'll clean them out. Eventually, they do fail and will need to be replaced--the Record, Overdub, Nextloop and Multiply are probably going to wear out first because they get used more. The switches are about 50 cents each though, and can be replaced by anyone with minimal soldering ability. Strings break, reeds need replacing, tubes wear out, and EFC switches will eventually go bad. Yours may have been already somewhat used if you bought a returned unit from MF. All other replacement switches have their own drawbacks--cost, acoustically loud, long throw, etc, but if you decide to go that route the EFC-7 is very easy to work on. The only switches I'd consider are the type that I've seen on Mesa/Boogie footswitches (the non-clicking ones), but I believe they're literally ten times as expensive ($5 each). Personally, "the mountains" are not where I'd take any electrical music equipment. Consumer level stuff isn't really designed for that. TH On 8/1/08, Loaf citious wrote: > > Guess I'm replying to the original post about being frustrated w/ the > FC-7. Took that thing up to the mountains last weekend and it freaked out > - had to repeatedly tap the record (and others) until it seemed to "warm > up" That experience completely sucked the magic out of the whole thing. It > worked eventually. > > But, this happed right when I got it! Out of the box I was having funny > experiences w/ some of the buttons. Is this thing so sensitive that it's > effected by dust? Altitude? Temp? WHAT?!?! > (or is that the Musicians Friend Special I'm tasting?) > > I remember someone on this list a while back mentioning that they replaced > the little red plastic buttons w/ some sturdy metal ones. Did it help? Did > it make it more reliable? > > ------=_Part_6393_24259783.1217609049925 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Any piece of electrical equipment will be affected by dust to some degree or another.  The EDP switches were carefully selected for a number of reasons: fast response, acoustically quiet, short throw, easy to replace, inexpensive to purchase, readily available.  The downside is that they are more prone to dirt getting in them.  Usually you can spray some contact cleaner in the switch and work it a few dozen times and that'll clean them out.  Eventually, they do fail and will need to be replaced--the Record, Overdub, Nextloop and Multiply are probably going to wear out first because they get used more.  The switches are about 50 cents each though, and can be replaced by anyone with minimal soldering ability.  Strings break, reeds need replacing, tubes wear out, and EFC switches will eventually go bad.  Yours may have been already somewhat used if you bought a returned unit from MF.

All other replacement switches have their own drawbacks--cost, acoustically loud, long throw, etc, but if you decide to go that route the EFC-7 is very easy to work on.  The only switches I'd consider are the type that I've seen on Mesa/Boogie footswitches (the non-clicking ones), but I believe they're literally ten times as expensive ($5 each).

Personally, "the mountains" are not where I'd take any electrical music equipment.  Consumer level stuff isn't really designed for that.

TH

On 8/1/08, Loaf citious <loafcitious@gmail.com> wrote:
Guess I'm replying to the original post about being frustrated w/ the FC-7.  Took that thing up to the mountains last weekend and it freaked out  - had to repeatedly tap the record (and others) until it seemed to "warm up"  That experience completely sucked the magic out of the whole thing.  It worked eventually.

But, this happed right when I got it!  Out of the box I was having funny experiences w/ some of the buttons.  Is this thing so sensitive that it's effected by dust? Altitude? Temp? WHAT?!?!
(or is that the Musicians Friend Special I'm tasting?)

I remember someone on this list a while back mentioning that they replaced the little red plastic buttons w/ some sturdy metal ones. Did it help? Did it make it more reliable?


------=_Part_6393_24259783.1217609049925-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 16:59:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 834683BFC1; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 16:59:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=0/bBpvNUDRsJeteYKbV8OcghEftCkEU1qs0gFqBzZBI=; b=WwDNn9IgScrWEEodftnnwvq3ki9lu5sEchfv9gg77wFtp/6fbExtChXk4225Z3duQE /9zDGZqRlk9hVx08yzxm3bvKVHtJGOc9okinV3zp8ivz2rRBDp5uyvouq1wVF5rsOeyO wo91qpUwl9vOK1UHxX0W5Nb7SU4FkqeltZZCo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=vaCmINcW+ULOyXL6uTa0d2pLVeXBri91GWIYM8B5x6sqRypQmk4fYEv5nTivGeyhc6 SoQ+peDLU1AbeS92YQr09xWfCZJRTDkFe6emPnlBhepzJe9+ll9KDcbRYwfuwUpln00o syZGKg/DGf81MLRU/6YBMiXO9bAa1j130eKGM= Message-ID: <9e0440a60808010959q6c2d0581m9dc760cb0719e0e6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 12:59:36 -0400 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT Recommendied listen..streaming audio inc Stockhausen from 1956 In-Reply-To: <48932B48.1020605@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_8548_12934572.1217609976318" References: <48932B48.1020605@tiscali.co.uk> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82463 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 16:59:41 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_8548_12934572.1217609976318 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Andy thanks for passing this along. Got this now streaming in my background and enjoying the range a great deal. Stockhausen was amazing considering. I haven't heard bbc since I was in England driving twoards Scotland in the late 80's saddly havne't been back since. Max's program reminds me of a NPR music program and host in LA called Selected Eclectic or something of that nature that I love to catch when I'm out there. Anyhow I'll remember to check bbc more often. best Jim On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 11:27 AM, andy butler wrote: > bbc radio make programs available to stream for 7 days. > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/latejunction/pip/rpqep/ > > includes Stockhausen's "Gesange der Junglinge" from 1958. > an electroacoustic work based on voice. > Of course, now it's possible to "do it with Max" in an instant, but back > then this > was months and months of work. > It might be tempting to ask how far experimental music has moved on in 50 > years ? > > > Actually, there's a lot of good stuff on this particular program, > some world music untouched by Western influence, > and a Ligeti piano piece. > > andy butler > > > -- The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic Chinapainting - http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com Chinapainting on My Space - http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com ------=_Part_8548_12934572.1217609976318 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Andy thanks for passing this along.  Got this now streaming in my background and enjoying the range a great deal.  Stockhausen was amazing considering.  I haven't heard bbc since I was in England driving twoards Scotland in the late 80's saddly havne't been back since.  Max's program reminds me of a NPR music program and host in LA called Selected Eclectic or something of that nature that I love to catch when I'm out there.  Anyhow I'll remember to check bbc more often.
 
best
 
Jim

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 11:27 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
bbc radio make programs available to stream for 7 days.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio3/latejunction/pip/rpqep/

includes Stockhausen's "Gesange der Junglinge" from 1958.
an electroacoustic work based on voice.
Of course, now it's possible to "do it with Max" in an instant, but back then this
was months and months of work.
It might be tempting to ask how far experimental music has moved on in 50 years ?


Actually, there's a lot of good stuff on this particular program,
some world music untouched by Western influence,
and a Ligeti piano piece.

andy butler





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MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com
------=_Part_8548_12934572.1217609976318-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 17:31:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A4ADB3BFC4; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 17:31:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 13:19:29 -0400 From: Bill Fox Subject: Galactic Travels Playlist #591 for July 31, 2008 To: undisclosed-recipients:; Message-id: <489345A1.6000005@soundscapes.us> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82464 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 17:31:28 +0000 (UTC) http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2008/080731.html Galactic Travels is an electronic, ambient, and space music show, that airs each Thursday at 11:04 pm on WDIY 88.1 FM, Allentown and Bethlehem, PA, 93.9 FM in Easton, PA and Phillipsburg, NJ, 93.7 FM in Fogelsville and Trexlertown, and webcasting on the internet. WDIY also broadcasts in Digital HD at 88.1 FM. Show #591 July 31, 2008 RECAP: On this show, I concluded the month-long focus on Steve Roach. The Featured CD at Midnight was Trance Spirits by Steve Roach and Jeffrey Fayman on Projekt Records. Steve Roach: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2008/focus.html#jul PLAYLIST: 11:04 pm ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Kevin Braheny Starflight 1 * Galaxies (Hearts of Space) Steve McManaman Those Who Dreamt Those Who Dreamt (none) of Buffalo Asnazzy Valles Marineris Solar Winds of Mars (Asnazzy) Alpha Wave Movement Emerald Passage Terra (HRR) Alpha Wave Movement Liquid Garden Terra (HRR) Klaus Schulze and Liquid Coincidnece 1 Farscape (Synthetic Symphony) Roach and Fayman Taking Flight Trance Spirits (Projekt) 12:00 am ARTIST TRACK ALBUM (label) ==================== ==================== ============================== Roach and Fayman Trance Spirits Trance Spirits (Projekt) Roach and Fayman Off Spring Trance Spirits (Projekt) Roach and Fayman Seekers Trance Spirits (Projekt) Roach and Fayman The Calling Trance Spirits (Projekt) Roach and Fayman Year of the Horse Trance Spirits (Projekt) Roach and Fayman In the Same Deep Trance Spirits (Projekt) Water 1:00 am * = excerpt VA = Various Artists (compilation) ++ = Advance CDR from Artist -- = Background music under interview NEXT SHOW: On the next Galactic Travels, I'll begin a month-long focus on Frank Van Bogaert. The Featured CD at Midnight will be Docking on Groove Unlimited. Frank Van Bogaert: http://wdiy.org/programs/gt/playlists/2008/focus.html#aug Bill ======================================================================= Host of Galactic Travels, an electronic, ambient, and space music show, Thursdays at 11:04 pm EDT (GMT-4:00) on WDIY 88.1 FM in Allentown and Bethlehem, 93.9 FM in Easton and Phillipsburg, and on 93.7 FM in Trexlertown and Fogelsville. WDIY also broadcasts in HD Digital Radio on 88.1 FM. 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To remove yourself from this list, click here http://vrstrt.com/u/rpO3cmeyuk87MSvEur79IA.html or write to us at: 25399 The Old Road, Unit 13507 Stevenson Ranch, CA 91381 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 18:05:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A5DF13BFBF; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 18:05:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 952 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 18:05:09 UTC Message-Id: From: David Coffin To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v919.2) Subject: Re: atmospheric guitar looping Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:41:19 -0700 References: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.919.2) X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82465 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 18:05:09 +0000 (UTC) Me, too; lovely, thanks! (Is it just because I'm a guitar player too--and have loaded my share of recordings with this stuff as well- that I found the occasional little bits of string rattling distracting rather than, say, "expressive" or "interesting"?) I have no way of hearing that sound "innocently." dc On Aug 1, 2008, at 9:18 AM, Os wrote: > I'm > particularly pleased with the latest Darkroom podcast episode. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 20:15:32 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A68D03BFC8; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 20:15:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=0K0p2FANN3SzDsznfYlkgPqCTPmFMkxt5+pqpZKcSmY=; b=n5HFIEQfmzCM0Tad6TG8xmKDtM9ze7ZKB+au5Dbi6lZsnzAXQoSMc48bW4BAMccHnd +xEzBMhnCGcBugO5R5iYwsqv3WyKIrBI6FFsnpsBR+aNoePXult0W3viXa+iHeM2qD8h 15DY9SOMKVrobTFF5pUC4LWBh5O5iDTVUa+qg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=u9YTJ+w4NpzylfYCcIJs3NukWe3q0CmN1iAaMlxzFqN+KaByCOJUGokTTuDscVwOxw BjAIow/HkukuUu8yEvFe3O10Zb0a4LWc4AnRSvCXWxgDUaxd/Zzyj6gbt8igE+5+R93j LO0IkgPWg3OfSoPG0kWB5WT2o+OV0YZ1sFbBA= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 16:15:31 -0400 From: "Aaron Austin" To: "Looping Website" Subject: FCB 1010 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_14210_11218210.1217621731583" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82466 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 20:15:32 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_14210_11218210.1217621731583 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Allright so i went with the FCB 1010 midi foot controller is this a wise decision? And will i have the same dirt problem on this pedal. ------=_Part_14210_11218210.1217621731583 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Allright so i went with the FCB 1010 midi foot controller is this a wise decision? And will i have the same dirt problem on this pedal.
------=_Part_14210_11218210.1217621731583-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 20:56:05 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B4CA93BFC9; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 20:56:05 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=tLCQ/LvrZMK+RhOHiCu7ZWU70RGSbQwS+hPOSm/nnGE=; b=pnteFmALzjnDCh7dFQYTd8kJc/rQWQ1MkrT1oowrs9P56naOltHvlGzJAIVCVZlxdm VdnCxxdObMEsTbMJu9AwHK+o3UlaSrx7MjQLBvYiwONit0pK3D/B4qVx6kFwFH+HelLI oH1MKVTZ/D7F+M7Kx/dKS7wa/kQS062cPOBGI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=OYFCeFUr1sfXczKAdW9U7BqhsKl/IjA4J6D9wlCNOVuJQrCpaZVIykAZSrMhL1LHHc rvBRTOIMHqLvA59x12JcwydZdtMQbdUmpwB529tXq1w93U/cBrg2fNlh65tAVsU2sAN+ 0qhnF4L4ZeqmB7RrntyxCHr0F0AXug5Tjs794= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:56:04 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: FCB 1010 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_8854_22601031.1217624164058" References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82467 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 20:56:05 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_8854_22601031.1217624164058 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline The price/performance ratio on the FCB is hard to beat. I've heard of FCB switches wearing out with use, and some of mine are becoming suspect after 18 months, but not the dirt problem. On the downside, I've never heard of someone replacing a faulty FCB switch, I think the solution is buying a new FCB. On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Aaron Austin wrote: > Allright so i went with the FCB 1010 midi foot controller is this a wise > decision? And will i have the same dirt problem on this pedal. > ------=_Part_8854_22601031.1217624164058 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
The price/performance ratio on the FCB is hard to beat.
I've heard of FCB switches wearing out with use, and some of mine are becoming suspect after 18 months, but not the dirt problem.  On the downside, I've never heard of someone replacing a faulty FCB switch, I think the solution is buying a new FCB.

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Aaron Austin <aaronaustin88@gmail.com> wrote:
Allright so i went with the FCB 1010 midi foot controller is this a wise decision? And will i have the same dirt problem on this pedal.

------=_Part_8854_22601031.1217624164058-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 21:34:31 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7CA853BFC5; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 21:34:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48938166.7050201@servingpeace.com> Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 14:34:30 -0700 From: Sam Nilsson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Wanted Echoplex digital pro plus References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82468 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 21:34:31 +0000 (UTC) projektGmail wrote: > Hi Loopers > > I want buy another EDP (for stereo use) but Gibson discontinued the product. > Does anyone know where to get a New EDP. > > Simon What country are you in? I have a very good condition unit that I don't need since I am not doing the stereo thing. If you are interested please email me at sam@servingpeace.com - Sam Nilsson From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 23:59:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BE6D23BFBC; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 23:59:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 399 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 23:59:37 UTC X-YMail-OSG: rCgaWWYVM1k3C.DkR1PTQQegipdw_mwS8Sii3nrCWv9U3cQ_g6Q4S9q8teDxCUb8gnJxInpN0NuPtSjcUULzH1mLWtPQuRIy.ND.AWYvo5HbII8TBJmLuIfXhR_0s6uvqgSEyDcuGHFslJK94x2j2m1X X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <000a01c8f431$a8000e90$4101a8c0@MICHAELPLISHKA> From: "Michael Plishka" To: References: <48938166.7050201@servingpeace.com> Subject: OT eclectic tunes Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 18:52:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82469 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 23:59:37 +0000 (UTC) Hey folks! Long story short-I gave away some signed stuff from a band I dig, and low and behold it ended up being all I had. But before the band left town I got a guy from the band through Myspace who sent me something signed--so what went around came around. So, it's all good, but I want to reward the band dude for his generosity and he sent me his mailing address and he said he digs eclectic tunes. He gave me a list of the stuff he digs: Khan, Ash ra, Neu, Can, Caravan, kevin Ayers, Steve Hillage Gong, Faust, PFM, Banco, Magma, Ange, Amon Duul 2, Genyle Giant, Genesis (with Gabriel)...70's progressive stuff.....Be Bop Deluxe, Free, Doctors Of Madness, Cockney Rebel Bootlegs of any of the above are cool as are anything else you think might fit the above styles. Please contact me offlist if you have any MP3's you'd be willing to part with. ~peace~ plish www.michaelplishka.com www.myspace.com/michaelplishka www.myspace.com/bohdanovich From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 2 03:08:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0E14F3BFA1; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 03:08:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Nk1VVVJ3gmAA:10 a=YXOspHT6iKkA:10 a=bAhFdsczXMELoJI6rkcA:9 a=jMrjdIXd0cScanXglqvxyQc-cokA:4 a=SOpWpe-P8L8A:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: <66f9cc1e0808010203id258df6k8c59c2c67abecf6@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <31CB4B54-A3ED-4ED8-AF4D-296B5F5BA344@zoekeating.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: info at zoekeating Subject: Re: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 20:08:21 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82470 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 03:08:23 +0000 (UTC) ah the endless foot controller issue... i just got a rocktron midi mate to see if i could replace my beloved (but hard to travel with) FCB1010. i've been working with it for a week, and THERE IS NOTHING LIKE MY FCB, WAAAAAAA i'm going to give it another solid week, but really the FCB rocks. i love how easy it is to page between banks. i love the big buttons. it is a tank. and if you install the iFCB application, it is a snap to program. plus, not many pedals can send notes, program changes and control changes, all at the same time. and maybe it is just me, but behringer tech support has been amazing, they respond immediately and are very helpful. (yes, i know about the history of behringer and what people say...) but i need it to be smaller. its ridiculous that my $40,000 cello and my looping rig go in the hold of a plane, but i have to carry the FCB onboard with me in a violin case. when it is just me traveling solo, the bulk of the FCB causes me no end of grief. so if the rocktron doesn't work, i'm going to pay whatever it takes to have the expression pedals removed from the FCB. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 2 03:28:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8DBB73BFC3; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 03:28:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=TdMN-FliDo7TIe8X9kgA:9 a=n2UA2mLMWrYlKQqlLa9npaH_QhUA:4 a=ScSMxcE-fkIA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: info at zoekeating Subject: more thoughts about the FCB1010 Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 20:28:00 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82471 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 03:28:02 +0000 (UTC) one other thought about the FCB... i played a 3hr gig today at the SF Airport, and it was about half improvisation (i was directly over the TSA security checkpoint and thought uplifting ambiance would be a good thing to do rather than "songs"). i realize that the FCB is so tied into my loopers (which today was 4 instances of SooperLooper and 2 Electrix Repeaters) that i think of the FCB as the instrument, rather than the loopers. i like how direct it is. i don't even think about it, and in fact, i hardly even have to look at it (er, because it is so LARGE, the thing i complain about). it was really nice to be so fluid. i could just improvise freely and build up endless structures, and my tools were transparent. that was a nice place to be. i'm hoping this will also be true for any other foot controller i choose...fingers crossed. but there is something important about not having to think in "modes" (i.e. software modes, like tabs in an interface) but instead being directly mapped to your devices. 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To unsubscribe, click here --=_2d7a74d297e5be3c0dfe163b52999f7e-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 2 07:56:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F29DA3BFC0; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 07:56:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=qYFmuwcvjUVRaxuXwL/bCMRvQKzD1vWHzchI7XNTlig=; b=OGDzlAgSrBPE/+NxjOzuV4dK5TaMzDkQ3WxOticwsNjcW7APOTP+eeQlTfrUwtm3no MscL4UUNkpTDcMjQAKIK1DB1BKdsrGRbjsNvwaUWg/SqHe7enm4e99cKzT7PVFdFR1rf U2NSWi5g/QWMAJPuqJpVZyV8SaHBHoQJrrOuQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=ERKSQYMKkQBTT2inV2d527YWXjHNt9KA6Bh0i17R9mSF14/w0q3D96LVEG2gffLhSi yy5VB2Q9PG8RE9u988nfP1hU1yl+viB2168ra+LyYkjfhIbxt6QhelaFMPxBk7jbX55l ga5bwyjeOlwCaVAS0cGhvlKllG6j5+LDHWN0w= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0808020056p7e7265c8saa0d294fe44c79@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 09:56:26 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: more thoughts about the FCB1010 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_12076_82997.1217663786688" References: X-Google-Sender-Auth: 1ff8a6fc9ab5442e Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82472 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 07:56:27 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_12076_82997.1217663786688 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I agree with you Zoe... after years of having masses of pedals on the floor, in a big box (with all the PSU issues - cant they make all pedals work on 9v-lazy buggers) I now have only the FCB and my guitar synth on the floor. I hardly need to look at the rack, and after many tests of "What patches where" I have come up with a layout that I like. Bank 0 is for "setting stuff up (EDP Presets mostely) Then going down is EDP stuff - Bank 9 Normal EDP buttons, 8 weirder stuff, and going up is Repeater stuff, Bank 1 is Normal repeater, Bank 2 weird Repeater stuf, and bank 3 is "Mini Repeater keyboard", that pitch one of the channels. FCB rules OK m- Show quoted text - On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 5:28 AM, info at zoekeating wrote: > one other thought about the FCB... > > i played a 3hr gig today at the SF Airport, and it was about half > improvisation (i was directly over the TSA security checkpoint and thought > uplifting ambiance would be a good thing to do rather than "songs"). i > realize that the FCB is so tied into my loopers (which today was 4 instances > of SooperLooper and 2 Electrix Repeaters) that i think of the FCB as the > instrument, rather than the loopers. i like how direct it is. i don't even > think about it, and in fact, i hardly even have to look at it (er, because > it is so LARGE, the thing i complain about). > > it was really nice to be so fluid. i could just improvise freely and build > up endless structures, and my tools were transparent. that was a nice place > to be. > > i'm hoping this will also be true for any other foot controller i > choose...fingers crossed. but there is something important about not having > to think in "modes" (i.e. software modes, like tabs in an interface) but > instead being directly mapped to your devices. > ------=_Part_12076_82997.1217663786688 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I agree with you Zoe... after years of having masses of pedals on the floor, in a big box (with all the PSU issues - cant they make all pedals work on 9v-lazy buggers) I now have only the FCB and my guitar synth on the floor. I hardly need to look at the rack, and after many tests of "What patches where" I have come up with a layout that I like. Bank 0 is for "setting stuff up (EDP Presets mostely) Then going down is EDP stuff - Bank 9 Normal EDP buttons, 8 weirder stuff, and going up is Repeater stuff, Bank 1 is Normal repeater, Bank 2 weird Repeater stuf, and bank 3 is "Mini Repeater keyboard", that pitch one of the channels.

FCB rules OK


m
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On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 5:28 AM, info at zoekeating <info@zoekeating.com> wrote:
one other thought about the FCB...

i played a 3hr gig today at the SF Airport, and it was about half improvisation (i was directly over the TSA security checkpoint and thought uplifting ambiance would be a good thing to do rather than "songs"). i realize that the FCB is so tied into my loopers (which today was 4 instances of SooperLooper and 2 Electrix Repeaters) that i think of the FCB as the instrument, rather than the loopers. i like how direct it is. i don't even think about it, and in fact, i hardly even have to look at it (er, because it is so LARGE, the thing i complain about).

it was really nice to be so fluid. i could just improvise freely and build up endless structures, and my tools were transparent. that was a nice place to be.

i'm hoping this will also be true for any other foot controller i choose...fingers crossed. but there is something important about not having to think in "modes" (i.e. software modes, like tabs in an interface) but instead being directly mapped to your devices.




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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 2 08:19:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3BB853BFC7; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 08:19:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 52602455/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.224.185 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.224.185 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Am0EAFO1k0hPTuC5/2dsb2JhbAAIixejMoNS X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,296,1215385200"; d="scan'208";a="52602455" Message-ID: <48941887.7050704@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2008 09:19:19 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: MIDI foot controllers Gorduis References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82473 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 08:19:11 +0000 (UTC) Sjaak wrote: > I like the Gordius Little Giant because of it's midi capabilities but > I play keyboards and I'm wondering if I could place it on top of my stage piano and use the switches without getting blue fingers! :) The buttons are certainly usable with fingers, though they're harder to push than you'd like. You could always ask Xavier do put some different switches on for you. andy From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 2 08:31:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6B9343BFD1; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 08:31:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 55682938/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.224.185 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.224.185 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Am0EAOe3k0hPTuC5/2dsb2JhbAAIixejGoNS X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,296,1215385200"; d="scan'208";a="55682938" Message-ID: <48941B4F.8070305@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2008 09:31:11 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! References: <66f9cc1e0808010203id258df6k8c59c2c67abecf6@mail.gmail.com> <31CB4B54-A3ED-4ED8-AF4D-296B5F5BA344@zoekeating.com> In-Reply-To: <31CB4B54-A3ED-4ED8-AF4D-296B5F5BA344@zoekeating.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <39AZ4.A.ooF.GtBlIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82474 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 08:31:02 +0000 (UTC) hi Zoe well, isn't the Gordius Little Giant exactly what you need? http://www.gordius.be/ tech support from Xavier is superb. I got him to re-arrange the buttons so my familiar fcb layout would work on the Gordius. andy butler ps when I used fcb1010, it would travel in the hold info at zoekeating wrote: > ah the endless foot controller issue... > > i just got a rocktron midi mate to see if i could replace my beloved > (but hard to travel with) FCB1010. i've been working with it for a week, > and > THERE IS NOTHING LIKE MY FCB, WAAAAAAA > > i'm going to give it another solid week, but really the FCB rocks. i > love how easy it is to page between banks. i love the big buttons. it is > a tank. and if you install the iFCB application, it is a snap to > program. plus, not many pedals can send notes, program changes and > control changes, all at the same time. and maybe it is just me, but > behringer tech support has been amazing, they respond immediately and > are very helpful. (yes, i know about the history of behringer and what > people say...) > > but i need it to be smaller. its ridiculous that my $40,000 cello and my > looping rig go in the hold of a plane, but i have to carry the FCB > onboard with me in a violin case. when it is just me traveling solo, the > bulk of the FCB causes me no end of grief. > > so if the rocktron doesn't work, i'm going to pay whatever it takes to > have the expression pedals removed from the FCB. > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 2 09:47:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 336AD3BFCD; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 09:47:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 18:47:03 +0900 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: Mech Subject: Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82475 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 09:47:11 +0000 (UTC) Here's a bit of a caution for those International travellers (specifically Laptop Loopers) coming into the US. It looks like the Department of Homeland Security has now begun taking it upon itself to confiscate and rifle through the data on some passengers' laptops, as well as storage devices. Details from the Houston Chronicle here: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/nation/5918770.html Granted, it's probably a longshot that you'll get tapped for such a search. But if you're coming into the US from a foreign country, it's best to know the risks up front and plan accordingly. --m. -- _____ "Image is blasphemy. Text is heresy. The spoken word is a lie." X <--- you are here. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 2 10:57:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2C5FC3BFCB; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 10:57:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=51Z6BmBhPdC5UmNpDI0QOY+NzLsziWkFEOEZ2xLMBIw=; b=Ck3Zs3jM45RCsTmNA8xDmVFqh25QP75wy3TimZ4teSGKxRwwvY8U8aFCpbjGZf+rEk e1JLvU40P7HcVMpW2IEzafcllng4nn18nIvpl0Q8ZPqAs/QpQKZkB4rAdhv6wDM7o1UF Dp5jRaGWDjRugqt9lhAFsDFr3T9Tv9aY2g+e4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=mNmJu5WahRACW8EaEBwt4/beOwmznRjlh45IR0oSPveK9KJXy6cFJMqJ5JueTMcKbG Pp8pfXJprqJNWOix+h49/h6yyXUMQkihbJ6zcT8oef2nfSSGWQbEg4qrBZowiWh0+vdY 2iFDDfURWIUrmpNOy7uBppa9SJG7/lxo+mMZQ= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808020357n1cf3a342m59124d41e0861814@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 12:57:03 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82476 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 10:57:04 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Mech wrote: > Here's a bit of a caution for those International travellers (specifically > Laptop Loopers) coming into the US. It looks like the Department of > Homeland Security has now begun taking it upon itself to confiscate and > rifle through the data on some passengers' laptops, as well as storage > devices. Details from the Houston Chronicle here: > > http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/nation/5918770.html > > Granted, it's probably a longshot that you'll get tapped for such a search. > But if you're coming into the US from a foreign country, it's best to know > the risks up front and plan accordingly. > > --m. Well, I always bring my looping setup on both a USB stick and CD, just in case. I think it's fair to let security go through random passengers electronic data. I'd rather take that than a bomb up my ass. But... That announcement by Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff would make for a good laugh it was in a Monty Python sketch! But since it is a real world document it brings the question of what people really are in charge over there? I mean, as examples for the threat they have deliberately chosen words as "violent jihadist materials". A much better phrasing would have been to say "terrorist action material". Jihad is an Arabic word with the Islamic meaning "striving in the name of Allah". I think it's really sad that people in such a leading position still act in such a prejudiced way. You could almost believe that a hidden meaning of the document is to spread bad vibes about Arabic speaking countries and the religion Islam in particular! About a thousand years ago the Christians on this continent set out to concur in the name of god - I was hoping we were done with that kind of stupidity on this planet. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen From award@pb.net Sat Aug 2 11:20:56 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 6750 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Sat, 02 Aug 2008 11:20:52 UTC Received: from salta.mincyt.gov.ar (salta.mincyt.gov.ar [200.9.244.33]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA2C53BFB5; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 11:20:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from calchaqui.secyt.gov.ar (calchaqui.secyt.gov.ar [200.9.244.15]) by salta.mincyt.gov.ar (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id m71MiSjN006123; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 19:47:47 -0300 Received: from calchaqui.secyt.gov.ar (calchaqui.secyt.gov.ar [127.0.0.1]) by calchaqui.secyt.gov.ar (8.13.4/linuxconf) with ESMTP id m71CMOPJ012754; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:22:26 -0300 Received: (from apache@localhost) by calchaqui.secyt.gov.ar (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id m71CIxDo012036; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:18:59 -0300 X-Authentication-Warning: calchaqui.secyt.gov.ar: apache set sender to award@pb.net using -f Received: from dial-pool4.ph.starcomms.net (dial-pool4.ph.starcomms.net [41.205.161.216]) by calchaqui.secyt.gov.ar (IMP) with HTTP for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:18:58 -0300 Message-ID: <1217593138.4892ff32981ef@calchaqui.secyt.gov.ar> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:18:58 -0300 From: POWERBALL PROMOTION Reply-to: dpu.staff@live.com Subject: YOU WON MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 41.205.161.216 X-SECyT-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-SECyT-MailScanner: Correo Libre de virus X-SECyT-MailScanner-SpamScore: s X-SECyT-MailScanner-From: award@pb.net To: undisclosed-recipients:; Ref Nr: PBL/CN/6654/CP Your E-mail has won the Power-ball Online Lottery. 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(Group Coordinator) ------------------------------------------------------------ Servicio de WebMail REDCyT - IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 2 11:47:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 649193BFCB; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 11:47:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=sNFNejq+LKAL0u8FpCL3tElRTeEQ6SV8bO0ovoxa220=; b=esqDw6ztVw1jBfGUPbk/7BoImAPFVUh3UeHaVgqA68llOz9t/uM+dKiJCceKKCdv20 7MA0BC/5ZGItwxH3XyBS9iHC7oirIgmtq/PzlkNgh7qGftokituvT+10ctK/XIpZwNyG mGZM+GIqz3rVpqsVoKqqv0MoMMhfYB1z4WGVc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=NmTdrGrrhXHx7MvJ3/Z5+/4mQeJ0Csb2s7fBPUqiIIu4WXlwPRAEcBMtETK6mcxpp+ YZijxnITOpWJx+s4LRMQ8ZckWz2upw/juavf6XSyrPe48pAyKTvoMGB5q/Xsrto5ATBN nPKRsdOzPK2rYZnxge2bpmPjED3Jb7o+Iykkw= Message-ID: <101191640808020447k180350cdjd1ee0195191875bd@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 07:47:25 -0400 From: "Warren Sirota" Sender: warrensirota@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808020357n1cf3a342m59124d41e0861814@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <66f9cc1e0808020357n1cf3a342m59124d41e0861814@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 47fc52efe6d850c9 Resent-Message-ID: <3hqqCB.A.zm.PlElIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82477 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 11:47:27 +0000 (UTC) Per, I disagree with you on the semiotics of jihad, but that path just leads to political arguments better held elsewhere. there are endless places on the web to "discuss" things like this. In regards to this laptop inspection thing - i don't know if it's related to this story, but there was a story circulating on the tech podcasts a month or two ago about inspectors confiscating laptops with allegedly pirated music files on them. and, since the customs authorities (and, indeed, almost everyone) has no way to tell which files might be pirated and which not, they were confiscating laptops with *any* music on it. i don't know how true this is, but i would think twice before taking my laptop into or out of the US. Warren From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 2 11:58:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D08193BF55; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 11:58:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=MqjL05Pvn7ZThsyhGK93I8RGj/LZYH13G1vOOpN734Y=; b=t8o81W2LKqSY7OFgbkvRTyFdDHLzrUPLawYeZqLosu+DtaSdCor+jZkoudNfAFl5xX OjKC2/oH/h7wB7t/w/bj90zgrxveA+G39bg2LZGpXFNPJaTd68wuO3rwOUXTV2YWCgNp TdmeGQt6daJakAJmztb956/+/0qRbWSHHrd54= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=qmU9F29x2j95tYoPb6zesmmL9LayDAT2wgWe6XrxEsXN7IbxjerK+iYeE5I7SIPpWn Hi4DmDOFHGG9gHO8ORVHItT1wdIjoOgM2Hh93PjHShCw9MCa5DF7BB10t1BBYpnRorF3 OCTrMpptE/GUHkE+HbhItyz/OGyXR7Vgc8ZVs= Message-ID: <499c6bd70808020458t7a98536cm61c246de2677a2f7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 07:58:26 -0400 From: Dave To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... In-Reply-To: <101191640808020447k180350cdjd1ee0195191875bd@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_13772_7755812.1217678306238" References: <66f9cc1e0808020357n1cf3a342m59124d41e0861814@mail.gmail.com> <101191640808020447k180350cdjd1ee0195191875bd@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <826ZnD.A.i8.jvElIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82478 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 11:58:27 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_13772_7755812.1217678306238 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline They're confiscating any laptops they feel like confiscating and copying the hard drive for later inspection, the way I heard it. And you may or may not get it back and they may or may not tell you when. It's just part of how they're stripping away our rights in their attempt to have a 'war on terror'. Hitler did the same thing...burned down his own buildings, called it a terrorist attack, used it to consolidate the country's people against his enemy to further his agenda, stripped the people of their rights and started wars he said were pre-emptive. The more we let them get away with this kind of thing, the more they'll do it, and the more they do it, the more they'll know they can get away with. And now with an election coming up that they know they're likely to lose, they'll start doing all kinds of stuff to insure that their agenda has to be carried out even in their absence. In my opinion, that's why they took the terror alert up the other day...just something to scare people...just a little...but they'll take up another notch or two...before they invade Iran or whatever they feel they need to before they get out of office... Wanna download something legal, and worthwhile? http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/ Sure, it's conspiracy theory stuff, but that doesn't make it incorrect.... On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 7:47 AM, Warren Sirota wrote: > Per, I disagree with you on the semiotics of jihad, but that path just > leads to political arguments better held elsewhere. there are endless > places on the web to "discuss" things like this. > > In regards to this laptop inspection thing - i don't know if it's > related to this story, but there was a story circulating on the tech > podcasts a month or two ago about inspectors confiscating laptops with > allegedly pirated music files on them. and, since the customs > authorities (and, indeed, almost everyone) has no way to tell which > files might be pirated and which not, they were confiscating laptops > with *any* music on it. i don't know how true this is, but i would > think twice before taking my laptop into or out of the US. > > Warren > > -- "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" ------=_Part_13772_7755812.1217678306238 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
They're confiscating any laptops they feel like confiscating and copying the hard drive for later inspection, the way I heard it. And you may or may not get it back and they may or may not tell you when. It's just part of how they're stripping away our rights in their attempt to have a 'war on terror'.

Hitler did the same thing...burned down his own buildings, called it a terrorist attack, used it to consolidate the country's people against his enemy to further his agenda, stripped the people of their rights and started wars he said were pre-emptive. The more we let them get away with this kind of thing, the more they'll do it, and the more they do it, the more they'll know they can get away with. And now with an election coming up that they know they're likely to lose, they'll start doing all kinds of stuff to insure that their agenda has to be carried out even in their absence. In my opinion, that's why they took the terror alert up the other day...just something to scare people...just a little...but they'll take up another notch or two...before they invade Iran or whatever they feel they need to before they get out of office...

Wanna download something legal, and worthwhile?
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

Sure, it's conspiracy theory stuff, but that doesn't make it incorrect....

On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 7:47 AM, Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com> wrote:
Per, I disagree with you on the semiotics of jihad, but that path just
leads to political arguments better held elsewhere. there are endless
places on the web to "discuss" things like this.

In regards to this laptop inspection thing - i don't know if it's
related to this story, but there was a story circulating on the tech
podcasts a month or two ago about inspectors confiscating laptops with
allegedly pirated music files on them. and, since the customs
authorities (and, indeed, almost everyone) has no way to tell which
files might be pirated and which not, they were confiscating laptops
with *any* music on it. i don't know how true this is, but i would
think twice before taking my laptop into or out of the US.

Warren




--
"The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos"
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------=_Part_16691_5553153.1217679195062-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 2 12:49:49 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2CA6F3BFB3; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 12:49:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=lEzCAM13rEejXXyzGNdna0B2VtyD+zld53K2LK+9L7o=; b=W6TfQyTGMGlMdU+gxPrnOCL8+XwAYUrtneE64/6zk5Svr7MygL45OVSqsOrfKKtZsM DXZBZ6ctlEsv9xQHfDxu0BY9WmyUxng12qcW/35Vh2tv4y8KiNQ5vzODbudjValQ7k7i UONcqArNSB43qFs6k6AnKqNhID4PrIQmdPohU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=FPu71+VlzXg4zLTofMB06ALimXHiNp1OVWPvzxDPJObXdnvCqSnuaUZykvrGF3TD+G rbw5J0bonFB8+Zkj4JYk8ejhxjwuZxYn+fx6Hc5p8pd2q7TBGFHb3idvm4QivMCpj89K mhwLxYP04U0I3slDexQ/IUojdjq73I2HmoTKA= Message-ID: <4759e5740808020549h2a290ffck5219ec3cb00da1e2@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 08:49:46 -0400 From: "todd reynolds" Reply-To: todd@toddreynolds.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! In-Reply-To: <48941B4F.8070305@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_10551_8303495.1217681386630" References: <66f9cc1e0808010203id258df6k8c59c2c67abecf6@mail.gmail.com> <31CB4B54-A3ED-4ED8-AF4D-296B5F5BA344@zoekeating.com> <48941B4F.8070305@tiscali.co.uk> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82479 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 12:49:49 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_10551_8303495.1217681386630 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline For what it's worth, Zoe, I've been sticking my rack AND the FCB in a suitcase for awhile now, and I'll bet mine is similar to yours. The Rack is 32 pounds plus the Behringer (and it's cloth case) comes to about 49 pounds. Another option is to try to bundle them together. On the cello front, if you're going underneath, I guess you have one of those ballistic cases... An interesting story from my end... Y'all might know that I had a quartet for a long time named Ethel. Our cellist, Dorothy, over seven years, usually carried her very expensive cello on her back in a soft case, and was successful talking her way on to the plane all that time without an extra seat bought, can you believe that? I haven't been in touch for a long time, so I don't know what she's doing now, but I imagine it must be so much more difficult now. Doesn't it suck that we have to pay these extra charges now when we travel now though? I've started shipping with UPS when I have to take two rack cases, in fact, I may start doing that with all gear in general, just carrying a small suitcase. It's really become severe. However, I'm with you and Andy, can't give it up, this FCB1010. On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 4:31 AM, andy butler wrote: > hi Zoe > well, isn't the Gordius Little Giant exactly what you need? > > http://www.gordius.be/ > > tech support from Xavier is superb. > > I got him to re-arrange the buttons so my familiar fcb layout would work > on the Gordius. > > > andy butler > ps when I used fcb1010, it would travel in the hold > > > > info at zoekeating wrote: > >> ah the endless foot controller issue... >> >> i just got a rocktron midi mate to see if i could replace my beloved (but >> hard to travel with) FCB1010. i've been working with it for a week, and >> THERE IS NOTHING LIKE MY FCB, WAAAAAAA >> >> i'm going to give it another solid week, but really the FCB rocks. i love >> how easy it is to page between banks. i love the big buttons. it is a tank. >> and if you install the iFCB application, it is a snap to program. plus, not >> many pedals can send notes, program changes and control changes, all at the >> same time. and maybe it is just me, but behringer tech support has been >> amazing, they respond immediately and are very helpful. (yes, i know about >> the history of behringer and what people say...) >> >> but i need it to be smaller. its ridiculous that my $40,000 cello and my >> looping rig go in the hold of a plane, but i have to carry the FCB onboard >> with me in a violin case. when it is just me traveling solo, the bulk of the >> FCB causes me no end of grief. >> >> so if the rocktron doesn't work, i'm going to pay whatever it takes to >> have the expression pedals removed from the FCB. >> >> >> > -- Bang on a Can has landed once again in North Adams!!! http://blog.toddreynolds.com ------=_Part_10551_8303495.1217681386630 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
For what it's worth, Zoe, I've been sticking my rack AND the FCB in a suitcase for awhile now, and I'll bet mine is similar to yours.  The Rack is 32 pounds plus the Behringer (and it's cloth case) comes to about 49 pounds. Another option is to try to bundle them together. 

On the cello front, if you're going underneath, I guess you have one of those ballistic cases... An interesting story from my end... Y'all might know that I had a quartet for a long time named Ethel.  Our cellist, Dorothy, over seven years, usually carried her very expensive cello on her back in a soft case, and was successful talking her way on to the plane all that time without an extra seat bought, can you believe that?  I haven't been in touch for a long time, so I don't know what she's doing now, but I imagine it must be so much more difficult now.   

Doesn't it suck that we have to pay these extra charges now when we travel now though? I've started shipping with UPS when I have to take  two rack cases, in fact, I may start doing that with all gear in general, just carrying a small suitcase.  It's really become severe.  However, I'm with you and Andy, can't give it up, this FCB1010. 

On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 4:31 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
hi Zoe
well, isn't the Gordius Little Giant exactly what you need?

http://www.gordius.be/

tech support from Xavier is superb.

I got him to re-arrange the buttons so my familiar fcb layout would work
on the Gordius.


andy butler
ps when I used fcb1010, it would travel in the hold



info at zoekeating wrote:
ah the endless foot controller issue...

i just got a rocktron midi mate to see if i could replace my beloved (but hard to travel with) FCB1010. i've been working with it for a week, and
THERE IS NOTHING LIKE MY FCB, WAAAAAAA

i'm going to give it another solid week, but really the FCB rocks. i love how easy it is to page between banks. i love the big buttons. it is a tank. and if you install the iFCB application, it is a snap to program. plus, not many pedals can send notes, program changes and control changes, all at the same time. and maybe it is just me, but behringer tech support has been amazing, they respond immediately and are very helpful. (yes, i know about the history of behringer and what people say...)

but i need it to be smaller. its ridiculous that my $40,000 cello and my looping rig go in the hold of a plane, but i have to carry the FCB onboard with me in a violin case. when it is just me traveling solo, the bulk of the FCB causes me no end of grief.

so if the rocktron doesn't work, i'm going to pay whatever it takes to have the expression pedals removed from the FCB.






--
Bang on a Can has landed once again in North Adams!!!

http://blog.toddreynolds.com

------=_Part_10551_8303495.1217681386630-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 2 13:35:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 68DA03BFB1; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 13:35:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=pW1DDDS7wJkZgfg4BZm6AMIEoE3yuXkZBlLEjzS+M0Y=; b=lOt6oaJebxQxsHC7gx9NJEUObq0+GXrif2RQPNfJIDkm6aaNqf3WYSFIjvl+3gQ/F+ PAVkGS1w8ry8PtuMRgiFbjjyYtgDsazBbDwZHqb6HcA9iTlFDdCIz72p+HbAqOdfTlfl hFD/veLjtH8PbjnC4WFH/1Ud2om+MMIcUzUsY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=qa/Qtj+GF5juwWjfRI2wt4v+veZkSAYjA+4YcoaTUrmC9uz33TiGEi3FJ905FmaUWL 2mfg27FlKaZ+Ba4U0LwDTQLuW6rlNWpvohe2gnKW9Mbjfh4eJIjS+Xvq6eyd29qOACMR CyT2FtEabytlI+B5L4itDPJte3KnnivfR5VdY= Message-ID: <652f3a270808020635q39d57eatab7b51d1e23e6e94@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 23:05:24 +0930 From: r.domain To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptop MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_45264_23516174.1217684124718" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82480 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 13:35:27 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_45264_23516174.1217684124718 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline "Wanna download something legal, and worthwhile? http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/ Sure, it's conspiracy theory stuff, but that doesn't make it incorrect.... " Got it and it's awesome!! Everyone should see it. Open some eyes. R. -- Without music life would be a mistake. ~Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche ------=_Part_45264_23516174.1217684124718 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
"Wanna download something legal, and worthwhile?
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

Sure, it's conspiracy theory stuff, but that doesn't make it incorrect....
"

Got it and it's awesome!!  Everyone should see it.  Open some eyes.

R.

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Without music life would be a mistake. ~Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche
------=_Part_45264_23516174.1217684124718-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 2 13:43:32 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 55F173BFAA; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 13:43:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:mime-version:content-type:x-google-sender-auth; bh=d7N2H/uonEozgk37OfHGnzRrQA7GAOINCULszLu4y/M=; b=hfiT+RaHT7LTJ2H9FCQgXTrIPyQIs6opnDiykBgHGogCaZJhHPQSlQTMPSMArZCXOd yxMehCS+VHg5Bn3j6dYN4J32N/+JvNyZtcEOkw7zkkgFdrC6/lJYyEFZhF3A4Cf2qwkV Gp1/WN9leqPxX6sMt5Vct88TKBN+RhywqVf8s= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :x-google-sender-auth; b=AgL3KvbErs1aU+60qEwyBFAPqux6/5fMKVib/2TlEMWr+ImFt5gKhyFk5du253Kv8M f1eZQDxQZR6nfIQvdzmGw2d6h5LQpkuHnEjy6isDy6JT1zFe590wowSryNgE/Xa+HfNN 028gNpRnuUaPzIY/VaCWOaER2HFzkQvFTzODI= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0808020643n6adeec8ft7f6053e02a27bb82@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 15:43:29 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Was Re: Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... now very OT politics of Jihad... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_13088_29646981.1217684609671" X-Google-Sender-Auth: ca55c995388f2238 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82481 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 13:43:32 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_13088_29646981.1217684609671 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I don't think Per was discussing the "semiotics" of the word, just defining it. However he was being a little controversial by using the origin of the word as its definition, I think the more accepted modern usage would be - a holy war undertaken by Muslims against unbelievers. Which is only fair really when one considers the Crusades. PS wholeheartedly agree with Dave, in fact, its a relatively normal depiction of how things are here in Europe, not conspiratorial at all, well not alot. Also... I dont think there is anything wrong with "talking politics" in this forum. The internet is still un-owned here in the Northern hemisphere, unlike all of the US News channels. How are you'all gonna find out the truth about where you live unless we (and Micheal Moore ) tell you. (heh heh... kidding LD'ers are in touch ) Also Music has often been the channel for furthering a Political cause. Maybe you or "Loop for the left"..."Loop for Jesus" Or even "Loop for Love" m On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 1:47 PM, Warren Sirota wrote: > Per, I disagree with you on the semiotics of jihad, but that path just > leads to political arguments better held elsewhere. there are endless > places on the web to "discuss" things like this. > > In regards to this laptop inspection thing - i don't know if it's > related to this story, but there was a story circulating on the tech > podcasts a month or two ago about inspectors confiscating laptops with > allegedly pirated music files on them. and, since the customs > authorities (and, indeed, almost everyone) has no way to tell which > files might be pirated and which not, they were confiscating laptops > with *any* music on it. i don't know how true this is, but i would > think twice before taking my laptop into or out of the US. > > Warren > > -- www.markfrancombe.com www.looop.no ------=_Part_13088_29646981.1217684609671 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I don't think Per was discussing the "semiotics" of the word, just defining it. However he was being a little controversial by using the origin of the word as its definition, I think the more accepted modern usage would be - a holy war undertaken by Muslims against unbelievers.  Which is only fair really when one considers the Crusades.

PS wholeheartedly agree with Dave, in fact, its a relatively normal depiction of how things are here in Europe, not conspiratorial at all, well not alot.

Also... I dont think there is anything wrong with "talking politics" in this forum. The internet is still un-owned here in the Northern hemisphere, unlike all of the US News channels. How are you'all gonna find out the truth about where you live unless we (and Micheal Moore ) tell you.

(heh heh... kidding LD'ers are in touch )

Also Music has often been the channel for furthering a Political cause. Maybe you  or "Loop for the left"..."Loop for Jesus" Or even "Loop for Love"



m




On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 1:47 PM, Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com> wrote:
Per, I disagree with you on the semiotics of jihad, but that path just
leads to political arguments better held elsewhere. there are endless
places on the web to "discuss" things like this.

In regards to this laptop inspection thing - i don't know if it's
related to this story, but there was a story circulating on the tech
podcasts a month or two ago about inspectors confiscating laptops with
allegedly pirated music files on them. and, since the customs
authorities (and, indeed, almost everyone) has no way to tell which
files might be pirated and which not, they were confiscating laptops
with *any* music on it. i don't know how true this is, but i would
think twice before taking my laptop into or out of the US.

Warren




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www.markfrancombe.com
www.looop.no
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Scientists have previously suggested that a mere pencil-thick strand of silk could actually stop a Boeing 747 in mid flight Although the technology is nothing short of cutting edge, mankind has known about the amazing properties associated with Spider Silk. For many centuries, we%u2019ve known about the possibility of making fabric from spider silk, although the pursuit was given up for economic feasibility reasons. Other applications range from medicinal uses to fishing lines and nets.  The US Army has a long history of interest in spider silks, but the closest it was able to come to commercial utilization was using black widow threads for the crosshairs in the telescopic gun sights during WW II. Of course, that didn%u2019t stop them from funding research into other spider silk applications and now KBLB is on the verge of mass production of improved bulletproof vests and parachute cords.  Plus, a number of commercial applications including, suspension cables, wear-resistant shoes and clothing, seat belts, rust-free bumpers for automobiles, as well as artificial tendons and ligaments KBLB could gain 1500% or more in the next few months  Not only does spider silk have amazing mechanical properties, the manufacturing process doesn%u2019t cause a pollution nightmare, like so many other products, and spider silk is completely biodegradable. Contrast spider silk production with the man-made super-fibers it%u2019ll be replacing, such as Kevlar, which requires petrochemical processing, big time pollution creation, and is also drawn from concentrated sulphuric acid.  Should this company achieve its goal of creating transgenic silkworms capable of expressing significant amounts of spider silk protein; we believe the technology will likely immediately be worth at least several hundred million dollars. Further refinement of the technology and initial acceptance by the technical textiles market could potentially yield an overall value for this technology well in excess of $1 billion. KBLB management and advisors believe they will likely be first to market, but if a foreign competitor pulls off a miracle, the Company%u2019s intellectual property, relative to the production of such technologies in the United States, would prevent them from selling their product in the United States. Speaking of the Company's Management and Advisory Board, it's like an industry Who's Who list and their confidence in the Company's future is supported by the fact that they own over half of KBLB's common shares. It is beyond the scope of this report to contain complete CVs and lists of published materials, but I will include brief introductions. Please don't hesitate to go to the KBLB website for further information. ( http://www.up0.net/ct.html?rtr=on&s=eahm,46ci,47y,ojd,iqon,4cg0,2hbv&MLM_MID=194850&MLM_UNIQUEID=318001c43b ) Company Website Management Kim Thompson, CEO Kim Thompson is the named inventor in a pending provisional patent application for a number of organic polymers. The patent application has been assigned to the benefit of the company. A central part of the company's work is in reducing those inventions to practice. Thompson founded Kraig Biocraft Laboratories in his pursuit of the development of new biotechnologies with industrial applications. As chairman of the scientific advisory board, he brings a unique perspective, and acts as the primary liaison between the advisory board and the corporation. Board of Scientic Advisors Malcolm. J. Fraser, Jr. Ph.D.  Dr. Fraser is the co-inventor of the gene splicing technology PIGGYBAC, as well as the inventor of various piggyBac improvement patents. It was his work on piggyBac which first caught the attention of Kraig Biocraft Laboratories. He was recently selected as a fellow of the American Association for the Advancement of Science. This was awarded in recognition for his distinguished contributions to genetics and transgenesis, and for his discovery of the piggyBac transposable element and derived transgenic vector system. In 2006, Dr. Fraser was awarded $2.5 million from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation to fund deliverable technologies in the field of transgenics, for the prevention of mosquito born disease. Dr. Fraser is a member of the faculty at the University of Notre Dame, where he heads the Fraser Laboratory. The focus of his work is molecular genetics. He is the author or co-author of numerous scientific articles in the field of genetic engineering and gene manipulation.    Randy Lewis, Ph.D. Dr. Lewis is internationally renowned for his work on spider silk. He is also the named inventor of a number of patents relating to spider silk polymers. He is a member of the faculty at the University of Wyoming, where he heads the Lewis Laboratory within the Department of Molecular Biology. The study of spider silk polymers and their underlying genetics is a major focus of Dr. Lewis's research.   Donald L. Jarvis, Ph.D. Dr. Jarvis heads a research laboratory within the University of Wyoming's Department of Molecular Biology which focuses on biochemistry, biosynthesis, and practical genetic engineering applications. He has approximately eighteen patent applications and intellectual property licensing agreements to his credit, including biosynthesis technologies and technologies with potential applications for pharmaceutical production. He is the author or co-author of numerous scientific articles in the fields of biosynthesis, genetic engineering and biochemistry. Contact Us Kraig Biocraft Laboratories, Inc. 120 North Washington Square, Suite 805 Lansing, Michigan 48933 Telephone: (517) 336-0807 Email: ( mailto:corporate@KraigLabs.com ) corporate@KraigLabs.com Copyright © 2008. All Rights Reserved.Investor Development Group (IDG) Three Riverway Suite 210 Houston, TX 77056 To unsubscribe, send an email to: unsubscribe-5470@up0.net with the address: looparc@loopers-delight.com in the subject line. --=_2a23afdc0f0460bd9c514c848bcbf8fb Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mailer 14c
 

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Spiderman Beats Batman!

Here's the Company that has the Strength to give you 1500%, or more, just around the corner...

Batman just broke all Box Office Records, but it's Peanuts Compared to the Value of Spider-Silk...

4-time Wall Street Journal All-Star Analyst Pegs Kraig Biocraft Laboratories (KBLB) to go to $4  



Kraig Biocraft Laboratories, Inc. (OTCBB: KBLB) has all the characteristics of a BIG TIME winner and now a top analyst has pegged it to skyrocket from 25 cents a share to over $4.00, which is a 1,500% gain. Perhaps the best thing about this stock is that it doesn't depend on the broader markets performance. This stock should go UP, UP, UP and AWAY UP!
 
Once this Company achieves its expected breakthroughs in the laboratory, the analyst who wrote the report, expects the stock to immediately be worth $4.00.  When the resulting patented technologies hits the market, it will be nothing short of dominating, not to mention a must have biotechnology for of a multitude of industries, ranging from the textile industry, to the chemical industry and it even has many amazing defense industry applications.

Imagine having a mix of companies like DuPont, 3M, Nike, Under-Armor, Adidas, General Dynamics, Raytheon, and others, wishing they could utilize your technology.
We're talking first-rate licensing opportunities, if not a prime buyout.


KBLB is at the forefront of the coming revolution in materials technology. The KBLB team is creating, via proprietary genetic engineering processes in cooperation with the field's top university scientists and laboratories, innovative near term solutions for today's practical problems and the development of new products. It has a very strong intellectual property portfolio relating to genetic modification of silkworms to produce spider silk and other specialized proteins. 

Kraig Biocraft Laboratories is a pioneering biotechnology company that utilizes genetic research to develop to find solutions in the areas of material science the next generation of high performance fibers, noteworthy commercial polymers, and diverse platform technologies with broad consumer and industry. The preliminary market for Kraig%u2019s protein-based materials, including spider silk, will be the multi-billion dollar technical fibers market. 

The highly resilient technical fibers/textiles market is already valued in the tens of billions of dollars per year, led by DuPont%u2019s $5 Billion a year product, Kevlar, and Honeywell's Spectra, but there is no comparison to spider silk. The Technical Textile market is expected to grow from $92 Billion to $127 Billion in 2010. This market consists of high-strength fibers used in composites, ballistic protection, armor and high strength cable, to name a few. 

Spider silk is a SUPER FIBER that significantly exceeds all known fibers relative to its ability to absorb energy prior to breakage, making it ideal for multiple ballistic resistant, medical, fashion, and industrial uses. If the Company reaches the low end estimate, 2% technical textiles market penetration, it would likely exceed sales of $3 billion per year.


Kraig Biocraft is America's NEXT Great Bio-Tech Breakthrough















KBLB's advancements in the development of genetically reproduced Spider Silk are nothing short of spectacular. Management, as well as the scientific community, knows that Spider Silk is a super fiber that will have numerous commercial and consumer applications. 

Spider Silk is a super fiber because it's five times stronger than steel, it has twice the elasticity of polyamide fibers (31% stretchability without breaking), even higher elasticity than Aramid filaments (i.e. Twaron and even Kevlar), yet it's finer than a human hair and lighter than cotton.

The fact that the high performance technical fibers, currently used in a wide variety of military, industrial, and consumer applications, require superior strength, toughness and flexibility, Spider Silk will soon become the standard.

Currently, the focus is on the development of high strength materials and industrial polymers, but KBLB can manipulate DNA to modify and create new biochemical products, as well as the next generation of materials.

1,500% Gains!

According to a four-time Wall Street Journal All-Star Analyst, the upside is enormous.


In the coming months, he expects KBLB shares to skyrocket 1,500%
which means

5,000 shares of KBLB could quickly soar $20,000
10,000 shares of KBLB could bring you $40,000
Considering the humongous market potential for the various product applications, the obvious question is, why hasn%u2019t this miracle product already dominated the various markets? The answer to that question is also one of the main reasons the Company should experience commercial success for years to come. Prior to recent KBLB breakthroughs, there was no way to reach adequate mass production capacity. Now, it appears several major products are close to commercial viability and Kraig Biocraft%u2019s intellectual property position, relative to production and sale of the potential product, is very strong. 

KBLB is at the forefront of the transgenics revolution, the scientific process of decoding the genetic instructions of an organism and applying those instructions to another organism, which is the key to producing bio-chemicals and other products on an industrial scale.

It may sound far out there, but genetic scientists have already produced the first transgenic silkworms, while other genetic researchers have isolated the genetic sequences in spiders responsible for silk production.

KBLB's technical team has mastered piggyBac transposition and homologous recombination, to create a germline stable transgenic silkworm capable of transferring the inserted spider silk genetic coding to all future generations. In other words, they%u2019re developing a transgenic silkworm capable of producing silk that contains spider silk proteins, in commercially viable quantities. In fact, the Company expects to significantly hasten the pace to the point that laboratory breakthroughs should be realized by the end of the year.

Pick up Your KLBL Shares before the News Triggers Major Price Appreciation

Kraig Biocraft Laboratories is one of the companies that on the forefront of these scientific advancements. Utilizing a set of state of the art genetic reengineering techniques the company is seeking to utilize the species Bombyx mori, commonly known as the domesticated silkworm, as a protein expression system in order to produce a revolutionary protein based product that could potentially be worth billions of dollars per year.

The domesticated silkworm, with silk glands that account for nearly half its bodyweight, is the perfect creature to manufacture these fibers. Thanks to thousands of years of captivity they are unable to live outside of captivity, so the cross contamination issues have been eradicated, but are still incredibly industrious, not to mention efficient.
KBLB will also explore additional possibilities for highly scalable and cost-effective applications for the pharmaceutical, biotechnology, with an emphasis on drug discovery, clinical and diagnostic testing applications, genetic engineering, bio-production and many other scientific applications. 


Kraig obtained the certain exclusive rights from the University of Wyoming, to utilize the spider silk DNA sequences which are at the core of its technology. These genetic sequences were first studied and subsequently patented by Dr. Randy Lewis, a KBLB scientific adviser and member of the faculty at the University of Wyoming.
KBLB has skillfully established collaborative relationships with the leading genetic research and engineering laboratories, including the U of Wyoming and the University of Notre Dame to create new polymers for the broad commercial markets, which have been waiting for the next evolution of materials.

The Company also launched the Kraig Research Initiative, which is a cooperatively work program, which funds university scientists and laboratories. As part of the program, KBLB licenses university intellectual property in the fields of genetics and genetic engineering. In addition to accessing top technology, Kraig gets the added benefit of employing the greatest minds in this discipline, greatly reducing the Company%u2019s R & D budget while they create technologies with significant commercial applications. Plus, both sides are able achieve greater results than what they could have reasonably hoped to achieve alone.


Scientists have previously suggested that a mere pencil-thick strand of silk could actually stop a Boeing 747 in mid flight


Although the technology is nothing short of cutting edge, mankind has known about the amazing properties associated with Spider Silk. For many centuries, we%u2019ve known about the possibility of making fabric from spider silk, although the pursuit was given up for economic feasibility reasons. Other applications range from medicinal uses to fishing lines and nets. 


The US Army has a long history of interest in spider silks, but the closest it was able to come to commercial utilization was using black widow threads for the crosshairs in the telescopic gun sights during WW II. Of course, that didn%u2019t stop them from funding research into other spider silk applications and now KBLB is on the verge of mass production of improved bulletproof vests and parachute cords. 

Plus, a number of commercial applications including, suspension cables, wear-resistant shoes and clothing, seat belts, rust-free bumpers for automobiles, as well as artificial tendons and ligaments

KBLB could gain 1500% or more in the next few months 


Not only does spider silk have amazing mechanical properties, the manufacturing process doesn%u2019t cause a pollution nightmare, like so many other products, and spider silk is completely biodegradable. Contrast spider silk production with the man-made super-fibers it%u2019ll be replacing, such as Kevlar, which requires petrochemical processing, big time pollution creation, and is also drawn from concentrated sulphuric acid. 


Should this company achieve its goal of creating transgenic silkworms capable of expressing significant amounts of spider silk protein; we believe the technology will likely immediately be worth at least several hundred million dollars. Further refinement of the technology and initial acceptance by the technical textiles market could potentially yield an overall value for this technology well in excess of $1 billion.

KBLB management and advisors believe they will likely be first to market, but if a foreign competitor pulls off a miracle, the Company%u2019s intellectual property, relative to the production of such technologies in the United States, would prevent them from selling their product in the United States.

Speaking of the Company's Management and Advisory Board, it's like an industry Who's Who list and their confidence in the Company's future is supported by the fact that they own over half of KBLB's common shares. It is beyond the scope of this report to contain complete CVs and lists of published materials, but I will include brief introductions. Please don't hesitate to go to the KBLB website for further information. Company Website
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Management

Kim Thompson, CEO
Kim Thompson is the named inventor in a pending provisional patent application for a number of organic polymers. The patent application has been assigned to the benefit of the company. A central part of the company's work is in reducing those inventions to practice.

Thompson founded Kraig Biocraft Laboratories in his pursuit of the development of new biotechnologies with industrial applications. As chairman of the scientific advisory board, he brings a unique perspective, and acts as the primary liaison between the advisory board and the corporation.

Board of Scientic Advisors

Malcolm. J. Fraser, Jr. Ph.D. 

Dr. Fraser is the co-inventor of the gene splicing technology PIGGYBAC, as well as the inventor of various piggyBac improvement patents. It was his work on piggyBac which first caught the attention of Kraig Biocraft Laboratories. He was recently selected as a fellow of the American Association for the Advancement of Science. This was awarded in recognition for his distinguished contributions to genetics and transgenesis, and for his discovery of the piggyBac transposable element and derived transgenic vector system.

In 2006, Dr. Fraser was awarded $2.5 million from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation to fund deliverable technologies in the field of transgenics, for the prevention of mosquito born disease. Dr. Fraser is a member of the faculty at the University of Notre Dame, where he heads the Fraser Laboratory. The focus of his work is molecular genetics. He is the author or co-author of numerous scientific articles in the field of genetic engineering and gene manipulation.

   

Randy Lewis, Ph.D.
Dr. Lewis is internationally renowned for his work on spider silk. He is also the named inventor of a number of patents relating to spider silk polymers.

He is a member of the faculty at the University of Wyoming, where he heads the Lewis Laboratory within the Department of Molecular Biology. The study of spider silk polymers and their underlying genetics is a major focus of Dr. Lewis's research.

 
Donald L. Jarvis, Ph.D.
Dr. Jarvis heads a research laboratory within the University of Wyoming's Department of Molecular Biology which focuses on biochemistry, biosynthesis, and practical genetic engineering applications. He has approximately eighteen patent applications and intellectual property licensing agreements to his credit, including biosynthesis technologies and technologies with potential applications for pharmaceutical production.

He is the author or co-author of numerous scientific articles in the fields of biosynthesis, genetic engineering and biochemistry.

Contact Us

Kraig Biocraft Laboratories, Inc.

120 North Washington Square, Suite 805
Lansing, Michigan 48933

Telephone:
(517) 336-0807
Email: corporate@KraigLabs.com

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Houston, TX 77056 --=_2a23afdc0f0460bd9c514c848bcbf8fb-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 2 13:54:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 801C73BFAE; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 13:54:13 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=hpgKZUSyW2V92cisE035IUrANffxcyacs687ey+VSm8=; b=Z2+cDBjRqBE0octmiouBPY7e2JuioSVvRB4AY+5Ofi9iPyD5IENedOMRuqqvbIWw1a aqlTYsvl8Rcv9i87I3qqPWrCx6L4cIDTYupiJ+b+oeZRvN/iIZdFlZaIW7HqxSiLgOAG GT1BmKfv1VEE5vB97Xhgfnnz03rh4I73/2bgM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=tZrmtjyp4YjIP9E4zWY4nh8lZF5VAZUJsWm9euM5E40Cryv+jTzy8J8VRepw0NIewX wkS1u1tw+kTRbV/gN/gBvDHRGEWiQXHqQoZaZbCf12Y8/rUPy4UQG1CsHs9DBnTTj/mp 92c594e6nOs2uGi312kQMbTURtIAGY6nPSgrI= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 15:54:11 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... In-Reply-To: <499c6bd70808020458t7a98536cm61c246de2677a2f7@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_15124_25864498.1217685251972" References: <66f9cc1e0808020357n1cf3a342m59124d41e0861814@mail.gmail.com> <101191640808020447k180350cdjd1ee0195191875bd@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808020458t7a98536cm61c246de2677a2f7@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <47XMJD.A.ueE.FcGlIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82482 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 13:54:13 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_15124_25864498.1217685251972 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline No discussion possible. Dave's point 100% accurated. 2008/8/2 Dave > They're confiscating any laptops they feel like confiscating and copying > the hard drive for later inspection, the way I heard it. And you may or may > not get it back and they may or may not tell you when. It's just part of how > they're stripping away our rights in their attempt to have a 'war on > terror'. > > Hitler did the same thing...burned down his own buildings, called it a > terrorist attack, used it to consolidate the country's people against his > enemy to further his agenda, stripped the people of their rights and started > wars he said were pre-emptive. The more we let them get away with this kind > of thing, the more they'll do it, and the more they do it, the more they'll > know they can get away with. And now with an election coming up that they > know they're likely to lose, they'll start doing all kinds of stuff to > insure that their agenda has to be carried out even in their absence. In my > opinion, that's why they took the terror alert up the other day...just > something to scare people...just a little...but they'll take up another > notch or two...before they invade Iran or whatever they feel they need to > before they get out of office... > > Wanna download something legal, and worthwhile? > http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/ > > Sure, it's conspiracy theory stuff, but that doesn't make it incorrect.... > > > On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 7:47 AM, Warren Sirota wrote: > >> Per, I disagree with you on the semiotics of jihad, but that path just >> leads to political arguments better held elsewhere. there are endless >> places on the web to "discuss" things like this. >> >> In regards to this laptop inspection thing - i don't know if it's >> related to this story, but there was a story circulating on the tech >> podcasts a month or two ago about inspectors confiscating laptops with >> allegedly pirated music files on them. and, since the customs >> authorities (and, indeed, almost everyone) has no way to tell which >> files might be pirated and which not, they were confiscating laptops >> with *any* music on it. i don't know how true this is, but i would >> think twice before taking my laptop into or out of the US. >> >> Warren >> >> > > > -- > "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the > concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_15124_25864498.1217685251972 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
No discussion possible. 
Dave's point 100% accurated.


2008/8/2 Dave <prog.music.freak@gmail.com>
They're confiscating any laptops they feel like confiscating and copying the hard drive for later inspection, the way I heard it. And you may or may not get it back and they may or may not tell you when. It's just part of how they're stripping away our rights in their attempt to have a 'war on terror'.

Hitler did the same thing...burned down his own buildings, called it a terrorist attack, used it to consolidate the country's people against his enemy to further his agenda, stripped the people of their rights and started wars he said were pre-emptive. The more we let them get away with this kind of thing, the more they'll do it, and the more they do it, the more they'll know they can get away with. And now with an election coming up that they know they're likely to lose, they'll start doing all kinds of stuff to insure that their agenda has to be carried out even in their absence. In my opinion, that's why they took the terror alert up the other day...just something to scare people...just a little...but they'll take up another notch or two...before they invade Iran or whatever they feel they need to before they get out of office...

Wanna download something legal, and worthwhile?
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

Sure, it's conspiracy theory stuff, but that doesn't make it incorrect....


On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 7:47 AM, Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com> wrote:
Per, I disagree with you on the semiotics of jihad, but that path just
leads to political arguments better held elsewhere. there are endless
places on the web to "discuss" things like this.

In regards to this laptop inspection thing - i don't know if it's
related to this story, but there was a story circulating on the tech
podcasts a month or two ago about inspectors confiscating laptops with
allegedly pirated music files on them. and, since the customs
authorities (and, indeed, almost everyone) has no way to tell which
files might be pirated and which not, they were confiscating laptops
with *any* music on it. i don't know how true this is, but i would
think twice before taking my laptop into or out of the US.

Warren




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"The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos"



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TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
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In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_14221_4258548.1217685511441" References: <66f9cc1e0808020357n1cf3a342m59124d41e0861814@mail.gmail.com> <101191640808020447k180350cdjd1ee0195191875bd@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808020458t7a98536cm61c246de2677a2f7@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82483 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 13:58:32 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_14221_4258548.1217685511441 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I'm not sure if that's sarcasm or not, but I'm open to being wrong. I'm certainly not saying that I *have* to be right...I just go where the empirical evidence points me... On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 9:54 AM, Raul Bonell wrote: > No discussion possible. Dave's point 100% accurated. > > 2008/8/2 Dave > >> They're confiscating any laptops they feel like confiscating and copying >> the hard drive for later inspection, the way I heard it. And you may or may >> not get it back and they may or may not tell you when. It's just part of how >> they're stripping away our rights in their attempt to have a 'war on >> terror'. >> >> Hitler did the same thing...burned down his own buildings, called it a >> terrorist attack, used it to consolidate the country's people against his >> enemy to further his agenda, stripped the people of their rights and started >> wars he said were pre-emptive. The more we let them get away with this kind >> of thing, the more they'll do it, and the more they do it, the more they'll >> know they can get away with. And now with an election coming up that they >> know they're likely to lose, they'll start doing all kinds of stuff to >> insure that their agenda has to be carried out even in their absence. In my >> opinion, that's why they took the terror alert up the other day...just >> something to scare people...just a little...but they'll take up another >> notch or two...before they invade Iran or whatever they feel they need to >> before they get out of office... >> >> Wanna download something legal, and worthwhile? >> http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/ >> >> Sure, it's conspiracy theory stuff, but that doesn't make it incorrect.... >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 7:47 AM, Warren Sirota wrote: >> >>> Per, I disagree with you on the semiotics of jihad, but that path just >>> leads to political arguments better held elsewhere. there are endless >>> places on the web to "discuss" things like this. >>> >>> In regards to this laptop inspection thing - i don't know if it's >>> related to this story, but there was a story circulating on the tech >>> podcasts a month or two ago about inspectors confiscating laptops with >>> allegedly pirated music files on them. and, since the customs >>> authorities (and, indeed, almost everyone) has no way to tell which >>> files might be pirated and which not, they were confiscating laptops >>> with *any* music on it. i don't know how true this is, but i would >>> think twice before taking my laptop into or out of the US. >>> >>> Warren >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the >> concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" >> > > > > -- > The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra > TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com > -- "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" ------=_Part_14221_4258548.1217685511441 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I'm not sure if that's sarcasm or not, but I'm open to being wrong. I'm certainly not saying that I *have* to be right...I just go where the empirical evidence points me...

On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 9:54 AM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:
No discussion possible. 
Dave's point 100% accurated.


2008/8/2 Dave <prog.music.freak@gmail.com>
They're confiscating any laptops they feel like confiscating and copying the hard drive for later inspection, the way I heard it. And you may or may not get it back and they may or may not tell you when. It's just part of how they're stripping away our rights in their attempt to have a 'war on terror'.

Hitler did the same thing...burned down his own buildings, called it a terrorist attack, used it to consolidate the country's people against his enemy to further his agenda, stripped the people of their rights and started wars he said were pre-emptive. The more we let them get away with this kind of thing, the more they'll do it, and the more they do it, the more they'll know they can get away with. And now with an election coming up that they know they're likely to lose, they'll start doing all kinds of stuff to insure that their agenda has to be carried out even in their absence. In my opinion, that's why they took the terror alert up the other day...just something to scare people...just a little...but they'll take up another notch or two...before they invade Iran or whatever they feel they need to before they get out of office...

Wanna download something legal, and worthwhile?
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

Sure, it's conspiracy theory stuff, but that doesn't make it incorrect....


On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 7:47 AM, Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com> wrote:
Per, I disagree with you on the semiotics of jihad, but that path just
leads to political arguments better held elsewhere. there are endless
places on the web to "discuss" things like this.

In regards to this laptop inspection thing - i don't know if it's
related to this story, but there was a story circulating on the tech
podcasts a month or two ago about inspectors confiscating laptops with
allegedly pirated music files on them. and, since the customs
authorities (and, indeed, almost everyone) has no way to tell which
files might be pirated and which not, they were confiscating laptops
with *any* music on it. i don't know how true this is, but i would
think twice before taking my laptop into or out of the US.

Warren




--
"The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos"



--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com



--
"The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos"
------=_Part_14221_4258548.1217685511441-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 2 14:00:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B6E0D3BFB7; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 14:00:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:mime-version:content-type:x-google-sender-auth; bh=7qk2KpLa8LohlPT+VM1Kio666MlUtNeuL1or5Erx3qE=; b=jl5bhvrL6Qr88IxI0rgBigkHY/AUaA8FYoYk5WhDBwccYiYOg4/+Yhyubh4dv1Z7VG tAALI9/lMTBfZ8A4YKaSxIZrliCd9u3ORJJehDE/K73bs/gTgNrehA+n5qTP+e7QrtmQ ytbYAgqcSWRfqyk/n1mprimKAxiVj1aHtmL7w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :x-google-sender-auth; b=CwNGR/hejKgm1LCqjycV6LYkiS9koj0JmhUK5umfgmcLT/Rm37VlhHZ/OusJoBfcE9 pgl7xJ4LI2JIYEiUPsl5V3pjwhn6px2lANdonFQdGfVM1hIDMSv/In+hUN0NzM8f48vC 5eyRolNNF3g2OMoOiSUBV8KSEyQAfuxpjua4Y= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0808020700s45c4c4c3w8c98ae07b16305b6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 16:00:51 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: loopers-delight Subject: So what IS the damage when travelling by plane? WAS Re: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_13174_21262891.1217685651948" X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2044cf1cfa9c602c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82484 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 14:00:54 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_13174_21262891.1217685651948 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 2:49 PM, todd reynolds wrote: > I've been sticking my rack AND the FCB in a suitcase for awhile now, > Hmm wish mine was that small... > > Doesn't it suck that we have to pay these extra charges now when we travel > now though? I've started shipping with UPS when I have to take two rack > cases, in fact, > OK Tell me... Im very likely gonna be going to be playing at Y2K8. What exactly IS the deal nowadays for travelling on a plane with gear. I have a BiG rack (stupid, cos its mostly air, want to change it for a box on wheels, thats a bit wider that 19" but less deep, that way I hope to mount table top things on the lid... like this --- http://www.spider-engineering.co.uk/music/typeproducts2.asp?id=3266-3988 except I cant get this in Norway... GRRRR!!!) Anyway.. I would need to take this, 1 x not very heavy rack (skb thing 19" x 20" x 20"- ish) and a guitar case. (Ohh and a FCB!!! ) Now HOW BAD IS THAT??? When I see all these tourists off to Barbados with these HUGE suitcases, 2 of 'em... I know its a funny shape, but weight and actual sq ft, cant be much different... What IS the damage really? In dollars...? PS: Dont think of damage etc.. Ill risk anything in the hold... my guitar is a piece of... M.x > > On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 4:31 AM, andy butler wrote: > >> hi Zoe >> well, isn't the Gordius Little Giant exactly what you need? >> >> http://www.gordius.be/ >> >> tech support from Xavier is superb. >> >> I got him to re-arrange the buttons so my familiar fcb layout would work >> on the Gordius. >> >> >> andy butler >> ps when I used fcb1010, it would travel in the hold >> >> >> >> info at zoekeating wrote: >> >>> ah the endless foot controller issue... >>> >>> i just got a rocktron midi mate to see if i could replace my beloved (but >>> hard to travel with) FCB1010. i've been working with it for a week, and >>> THERE IS NOTHING LIKE MY FCB, WAAAAAAA >>> >>> i'm going to give it another solid week, but really the FCB rocks. i love >>> how easy it is to page between banks. i love the big buttons. it is a tank. >>> and if you install the iFCB application, it is a snap to program. plus, not >>> many pedals can send notes, program changes and control changes, all at the >>> same time. and maybe it is just me, but behringer tech support has been >>> amazing, they respond immediately and are very helpful. (yes, i know about >>> the history of behringer and what people say...) >>> >>> but i need it to be smaller. its ridiculous that my $40,000 cello and my >>> looping rig go in the hold of a plane, but i have to carry the FCB onboard >>> with me in a violin case. when it is just me traveling solo, the bulk of the >>> FCB causes me no end of grief. >>> >>> so if the rocktron doesn't work, i'm going to pay whatever it takes to >>> have the expression pedals removed from the FCB. >>> >>> >>> >> > > > -- > Bang on a Can has landed once again in North Adams!!! > > http://blog.toddreynolds.com > > -- www.markfrancombe.com www.looop.no ------=_Part_13174_21262891.1217685651948 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline


On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 2:49 PM, todd reynolds <toddreyn@gmail.com> wrote:
 I've been sticking my rack AND the FCB in a suitcase for awhile now,

Hmm wish mine was that small...

Doesn't it suck that we have to pay these extra charges now when we travel now though? I've started shipping with UPS when I have to take  two rack cases, in fact,

OK Tell me... Im very likely gonna be going to be playing at Y2K8. What exactly IS the deal nowadays for travelling on a plane with gear. I have a BiG rack (stupid, cos its mostly air, want to change it for a box on wheels, thats a bit wider that 19" but less deep, that way I hope to mount table top things on the lid... like this ---
http://www.spider-engineering.co.uk/music/typeproducts2.asp?id=3266-3988
except I cant get this in Norway... GRRRR!!!)

Anyway.. I would need to take this, 1 x not very heavy rack (skb thing 19" x 20" x 20"- ish) and a guitar case. (Ohh and a FCB!!! )

Now HOW BAD IS THAT??? When I see all these tourists off to Barbados with these HUGE suitcases, 2 of 'em... I know its a funny shape, but weight and actual sq ft, cant be much different...

What IS the damage really? In dollars...?

PS: Dont think of damage etc.. Ill risk anything in the hold... my guitar is a piece of...

M.x




On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 4:31 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
hi Zoe
well, isn't the Gordius Little Giant exactly what you need?

http://www.gordius.be/

tech support from Xavier is superb.

I got him to re-arrange the buttons so my familiar fcb layout would work
on the Gordius.


andy butler
ps when I used fcb1010, it would travel in the hold



info at zoekeating wrote:
ah the endless foot controller issue...

i just got a rocktron midi mate to see if i could replace my beloved (but hard to travel with) FCB1010. i've been working with it for a week, and
THERE IS NOTHING LIKE MY FCB, WAAAAAAA

i'm going to give it another solid week, but really the FCB rocks. i love how easy it is to page between banks. i love the big buttons. it is a tank. and if you install the iFCB application, it is a snap to program. plus, not many pedals can send notes, program changes and control changes, all at the same time. and maybe it is just me, but behringer tech support has been amazing, they respond immediately and are very helpful. (yes, i know about the history of behringer and what people say...)

but i need it to be smaller. its ridiculous that my $40,000 cello and my looping rig go in the hold of a plane, but i have to carry the FCB onboard with me in a violin case. when it is just me traveling solo, the bulk of the FCB causes me no end of grief.

so if the rocktron doesn't work, i'm going to pay whatever it takes to have the expression pedals removed from the FCB.






--
Bang on a Can has landed once again in North Adams!!!

http://blog.toddreynolds.com




--
www.markfrancombe.com
www.looop.no
------=_Part_13174_21262891.1217685651948-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 2 14:02:27 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED0943BFAC; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 14:02:27 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=Z3/iDhJ1QML4EsTgoFd2Yo09QHCCBSlYg+/Y04B+juc=; b=U9zxLxJ7OeeIZvQr+iNVBw8bLY5dqBD59XvJ+ojHK0TkB4DZlt4+ecMYAdSUyeMEXp YNEUUxhZatIMQVNpxx4gdKTGZ0/7FqNbnUHj0ePLanXJKjd+mJPFy528rZLFB705yMFj X58uO1cxS0zBSMEV/3c8snC1ITWevXmADnI/c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=EkaMK8ZJHcoco1sUHzO9zhhSQqY9KlzoaiHcz85TmSxMKxguaxMfQ4VydzYKSamqWs uYoXKO/nkI0wsk9Wiz4b2Ny0EZB+oJZyVfGxLqJda9nxSM5mk+3OQoeTIHvsoht1SP7d jB/xX9WXfRZLMGwo6WC/KFx8ie2JU7FzSEHOE= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0808020702i69f86f80nf0cfa3fc5590afbb@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 16:02:26 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... In-Reply-To: <499c6bd70808020658j3ea845f2h84df876274aeb248@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_13186_12296939.1217685746848" References: <66f9cc1e0808020357n1cf3a342m59124d41e0861814@mail.gmail.com> <101191640808020447k180350cdjd1ee0195191875bd@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808020458t7a98536cm61c246de2677a2f7@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808020658j3ea845f2h84df876274aeb248@mail.gmail.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 53e118ed39e035ba Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82485 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 14:02:27 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_13186_12296939.1217685746848 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Im sure it cant have been sarcasm... you speak the truth my friend... ------=_Part_13186_12296939.1217685746848 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Im sure it cant have been sarcasm... you speak the truth my friend...
------=_Part_13186_12296939.1217685746848-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 2 14:03:19 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 876BD3BFB9; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 14:03:19 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=uE0KqtOAOoTAVj8yu9r0x3r7+pdUd9M/oPE8UBP5Wv8=; b=V2l6HW/ZdX4+odrZNXJRIJre4QCw6VecrzJy4ogD8DkgImdxdc9CB87EMPbkiYZS1u 9kbMS1pz9Banpb+Pmy8Qmpy96SuYCfo+ByxBtkYhKMexuVPkMRoUxv7gTv423CkH+0NU wFPW7Dic/G2WFUHSh3XhoxuBKN4Z0UFAcRFeY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=RZ6IKWdrC1q4LQ/xuX2A8zpVON/UJFGLe5MVrrXy3Z8z4SJHKPe0h+CgndaS8r/YV7 KiZp18nGaXzQjzD8/UfWM6ZiKhidIQ5SmNgMqzC8yCaQML8zCU9o+YpOUfRZsc8kWzGw Sp3En885I+jpI2A7n++UCFS4sydx+x9GY4Uco= Message-ID: Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 16:02:59 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... In-Reply-To: <499c6bd70808020658j3ea845f2h84df876274aeb248@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_15236_18625866.1217685779378" References: <66f9cc1e0808020357n1cf3a342m59124d41e0861814@mail.gmail.com> <101191640808020447k180350cdjd1ee0195191875bd@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808020458t7a98536cm61c246de2677a2f7@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808020658j3ea845f2h84df876274aeb248@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82486 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 14:03:19 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_15236_18625866.1217685779378 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Not sarcasm intended, Dave.Just poor english!.. Catalonia (east spain). Thanks for the link! Raul. 2008/8/2 Dave > I'm not sure if that's sarcasm or not, but I'm open to being wrong. I'm > certainly not saying that I *have* to be right...I just go where the > empirical evidence points me... > > > On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 9:54 AM, Raul Bonell wrote: > >> No discussion possible. Dave's point 100% accurated. >> >> 2008/8/2 Dave >> >>> They're confiscating any laptops they feel like confiscating and copying >>> the hard drive for later inspection, the way I heard it. And you may or may >>> not get it back and they may or may not tell you when. It's just part of how >>> they're stripping away our rights in their attempt to have a 'war on >>> terror'. >>> >>> Hitler did the same thing...burned down his own buildings, called it a >>> terrorist attack, used it to consolidate the country's people against his >>> enemy to further his agenda, stripped the people of their rights and started >>> wars he said were pre-emptive. The more we let them get away with this kind >>> of thing, the more they'll do it, and the more they do it, the more they'll >>> know they can get away with. And now with an election coming up that they >>> know they're likely to lose, they'll start doing all kinds of stuff to >>> insure that their agenda has to be carried out even in their absence. In my >>> opinion, that's why they took the terror alert up the other day...just >>> something to scare people...just a little...but they'll take up another >>> notch or two...before they invade Iran or whatever they feel they need to >>> before they get out of office... >>> >>> Wanna download something legal, and worthwhile? >>> http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/ >>> >>> Sure, it's conspiracy theory stuff, but that doesn't make it >>> incorrect.... >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 7:47 AM, Warren Sirota wrote: >>> >>>> Per, I disagree with you on the semiotics of jihad, but that path just >>>> leads to political arguments better held elsewhere. there are endless >>>> places on the web to "discuss" things like this. >>>> >>>> In regards to this laptop inspection thing - i don't know if it's >>>> related to this story, but there was a story circulating on the tech >>>> podcasts a month or two ago about inspectors confiscating laptops with >>>> allegedly pirated music files on them. and, since the customs >>>> authorities (and, indeed, almost everyone) has no way to tell which >>>> files might be pirated and which not, they were confiscating laptops >>>> with *any* music on it. i don't know how true this is, but i would >>>> think twice before taking my laptop into or out of the US. >>>> >>>> Warren >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the >>> concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo >> Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com >> TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra >> TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com >> > > > > -- > "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the > concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_15236_18625866.1217685779378 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Not sarcasm intended, Dave.
Just poor english!.. Catalonia (east spain).

 Thanks for the link!

Raul.

2008/8/2 Dave <prog.music.freak@gmail.com>
I'm not sure if that's sarcasm or not, but I'm open to being wrong. I'm certainly not saying that I *have* to be right...I just go where the empirical evidence points me...


On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 9:54 AM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:
No discussion possible. 
Dave's point 100% accurated.


2008/8/2 Dave <prog.music.freak@gmail.com>
They're confiscating any laptops they feel like confiscating and copying the hard drive for later inspection, the way I heard it. And you may or may not get it back and they may or may not tell you when. It's just part of how they're stripping away our rights in their attempt to have a 'war on terror'.

Hitler did the same thing...burned down his own buildings, called it a terrorist attack, used it to consolidate the country's people against his enemy to further his agenda, stripped the people of their rights and started wars he said were pre-emptive. The more we let them get away with this kind of thing, the more they'll do it, and the more they do it, the more they'll know they can get away with. And now with an election coming up that they know they're likely to lose, they'll start doing all kinds of stuff to insure that their agenda has to be carried out even in their absence. In my opinion, that's why they took the terror alert up the other day...just something to scare people...just a little...but they'll take up another notch or two...before they invade Iran or whatever they feel they need to before they get out of office...

Wanna download something legal, and worthwhile?
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

Sure, it's conspiracy theory stuff, but that doesn't make it incorrect....


On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 7:47 AM, Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com> wrote:
Per, I disagree with you on the semiotics of jihad, but that path just
leads to political arguments better held elsewhere. there are endless
places on the web to "discuss" things like this.

In regards to this laptop inspection thing - i don't know if it's
related to this story, but there was a story circulating on the tech
podcasts a month or two ago about inspectors confiscating laptops with
allegedly pirated music files on them. and, since the customs
authorities (and, indeed, almost everyone) has no way to tell which
files might be pirated and which not, they were confiscating laptops
with *any* music on it. i don't know how true this is, but i would
think twice before taking my laptop into or out of the US.

Warren




--
"The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos"



--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com



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------=_Part_15236_18625866.1217685779378-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 2 15:23:11 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B50683BFA5; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 15:23:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=T3LqzzOOtrGH0a8csANnK5S9rYEk3cB0eWJVGPOszt4=; b=GfpJQt2590T4uQm1xtZxSIIlQfBLtejoE+mQLzeFKNg7SIviLVQM+V59tSUsKl8AcR 1bazwmUVXxoJph8pYYYlVLUZeK6HyRp5Mj+uyDn0N5KpStbCVeP1zDspPD0uKS9/S2Z1 NC5p2yUqifR/qGyBQm1UNp7nJAH/xPMM2WaSY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=jOiyatvkGZxY19FltAMckSrF2NVtmbB4L/nyUdb72BdEBdZ1WPmTjwr3KG+dTY+OFq Sb3ox2vMRp6uBw87FZXr5BEis8BC76FYf/2JzBvaKJK7pQ0Pv1UXV7w0SDZYdsLs0C9a vRqmveoXQjWKr+uVmduJnOIJ2yjXoP2dAA+yY= Message-ID: <4759e5740808020823q45256fa8m4331c52661996d7a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 11:23:08 -0400 From: "todd reynolds" Reply-To: todd@toddreynolds.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: So what IS the damage when travelling by plane? WAS Re: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0808020700s45c4c4c3w8c98ae07b16305b6@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_11360_19459226.1217690588891" References: <9ab0c76f0808020700s45c4c4c3w8c98ae07b16305b6@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82487 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 15:23:11 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_11360_19459226.1217690588891 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline on most airlines which I travel these days, an extra bag is $50, an third extra bag is $100 additional. over 50 lbs on any one of them is anywhere from $50 to $100, more likely the latter, and over 70 lbs is not accepted. ugh. On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 10:00 AM, mark francombe wrote: > > > On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 2:49 PM, todd reynolds wrote: > >> I've been sticking my rack AND the FCB in a suitcase for awhile now, >> > > Hmm wish mine was that small... > >> >> Doesn't it suck that we have to pay these extra charges now when we travel >> now though? I've started shipping with UPS when I have to take two rack >> cases, in fact, >> > > OK Tell me... Im very likely gonna be going to be playing at Y2K8. What > exactly IS the deal nowadays for travelling on a plane with gear. I have a > BiG rack (stupid, cos its mostly air, want to change it for a box on wheels, > thats a bit wider that 19" but less deep, that way I hope to mount table top > things on the lid... like this --- > http://www.spider-engineering.co.uk/music/typeproducts2.asp?id=3266-3988 > except I cant get this in Norway... GRRRR!!!) > > Anyway.. I would need to take this, 1 x not very heavy rack (skb thing 19" > x 20" x 20"- ish) and a guitar case. (Ohh and a FCB!!! ) > > Now HOW BAD IS THAT??? When I see all these tourists off to Barbados with > these HUGE suitcases, 2 of 'em... I know its a funny shape, but weight and > actual sq ft, cant be much different... > > What IS the damage really? In dollars...? > > PS: Dont think of damage etc.. Ill risk anything in the hold... my guitar > is a piece of... > > M.x > > > >> >> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 4:31 AM, andy butler wrote: >> >>> hi Zoe >>> well, isn't the Gordius Little Giant exactly what you need? >>> >>> http://www.gordius.be/ >>> >>> tech support from Xavier is superb. >>> >>> I got him to re-arrange the buttons so my familiar fcb layout would work >>> on the Gordius. >>> >>> >>> andy butler >>> ps when I used fcb1010, it would travel in the hold >>> >>> >>> >>> info at zoekeating wrote: >>> >>>> ah the endless foot controller issue... >>>> >>>> i just got a rocktron midi mate to see if i could replace my beloved >>>> (but hard to travel with) FCB1010. i've been working with it for a week, and >>>> THERE IS NOTHING LIKE MY FCB, WAAAAAAA >>>> >>>> i'm going to give it another solid week, but really the FCB rocks. i >>>> love how easy it is to page between banks. i love the big buttons. it is a >>>> tank. and if you install the iFCB application, it is a snap to program. >>>> plus, not many pedals can send notes, program changes and control changes, >>>> all at the same time. and maybe it is just me, but behringer tech support >>>> has been amazing, they respond immediately and are very helpful. (yes, i >>>> know about the history of behringer and what people say...) >>>> >>>> but i need it to be smaller. its ridiculous that my $40,000 cello and my >>>> looping rig go in the hold of a plane, but i have to carry the FCB onboard >>>> with me in a violin case. when it is just me traveling solo, the bulk of the >>>> FCB causes me no end of grief. >>>> >>>> so if the rocktron doesn't work, i'm going to pay whatever it takes to >>>> have the expression pedals removed from the FCB. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Bang on a Can has landed once again in North Adams!!! >> >> http://blog.toddreynolds.com >> >> > > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > www.looop.no > -- Bang on a Can has landed once again in North Adams!!! http://blog.toddreynolds.com ------=_Part_11360_19459226.1217690588891 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
on most airlines which I travel these days, an extra bag is $50, an third extra bag is $100 additional.  

over 50 lbs on any one of them is anywhere from $50 to $100, more likely the latter, 

and over 70 lbs is not accepted.  

ugh.



On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 10:00 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:


On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 2:49 PM, todd reynolds <toddreyn@gmail.com> wrote:
 I've been sticking my rack AND the FCB in a suitcase for awhile now,

Hmm wish mine was that small...

Doesn't it suck that we have to pay these extra charges now when we travel now though? I've started shipping with UPS when I have to take  two rack cases, in fact,

OK Tell me... Im very likely gonna be going to be playing at Y2K8. What exactly IS the deal nowadays for travelling on a plane with gear. I have a BiG rack (stupid, cos its mostly air, want to change it for a box on wheels, thats a bit wider that 19" but less deep, that way I hope to mount table top things on the lid... like this ---
http://www.spider-engineering.co.uk/music/typeproducts2.asp?id=3266-3988
except I cant get this in Norway... GRRRR!!!)

Anyway.. I would need to take this, 1 x not very heavy rack (skb thing 19" x 20" x 20"- ish) and a guitar case. (Ohh and a FCB!!! )

Now HOW BAD IS THAT??? When I see all these tourists off to Barbados with these HUGE suitcases, 2 of 'em... I know its a funny shape, but weight and actual sq ft, cant be much different...

What IS the damage really? In dollars...?

PS: Dont think of damage etc.. Ill risk anything in the hold... my guitar is a piece of...

M.x




On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 4:31 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
hi Zoe
well, isn't the Gordius Little Giant exactly what you need?

http://www.gordius.be/

tech support from Xavier is superb.

I got him to re-arrange the buttons so my familiar fcb layout would work
on the Gordius.


andy butler
ps when I used fcb1010, it would travel in the hold



info at zoekeating wrote:
ah the endless foot controller issue...

i just got a rocktron midi mate to see if i could replace my beloved (but hard to travel with) FCB1010. i've been working with it for a week, and
THERE IS NOTHING LIKE MY FCB, WAAAAAAA

i'm going to give it another solid week, but really the FCB rocks. i love how easy it is to page between banks. i love the big buttons. it is a tank. and if you install the iFCB application, it is a snap to program. plus, not many pedals can send notes, program changes and control changes, all at the same time. and maybe it is just me, but behringer tech support has been amazing, they respond immediately and are very helpful. (yes, i know about the history of behringer and what people say...)

but i need it to be smaller. its ridiculous that my $40,000 cello and my looping rig go in the hold of a plane, but i have to carry the FCB onboard with me in a violin case. when it is just me traveling solo, the bulk of the FCB causes me no end of grief.

so if the rocktron doesn't work, i'm going to pay whatever it takes to have the expression pedals removed from the FCB.






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Bang on a Can has landed once again in North Adams!!!

http://blog.toddreynolds.com




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www.looop.no



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http://blog.toddreynolds.com

------=_Part_11360_19459226.1217690588891-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 2 15:27:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 684D43BFB1; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 15:27:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=qm2TmvBMxf5Hv88LA7jRVRjoXtEiY2RRAnTeZKq1eWo=; b=n4tITV8i66lU0B2uxhMxnZsM0S0BIfl4mx75fm+Wy4Gs475bUPt71NBoKvspX/qOM7 HYP9N3r4Y5rD0OnE6GW5SBB3ykwGDTxTyHwdPZz9pVxANpxLWeWgos+yf+71xDpx7daE r5EdxnOrrhtuvaJSgC0zSCBKtyizmf+XfdrFA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=jqOJERsqb4yjHgT1S4XTXISg5HDfxLkjMdKVo2vNj9tDsFreVgxkHt0WclaVH9/XAh mzMUT0ne8a1ofzqso3oKNPFVGrOtMVy6jwZ2K81f7wxaXCXhGCV6arZ88L1mz74kEcWn 3Xqx8+6vILPgRbqWem38HLj3VsQkWohdnpR6M= Message-ID: <4759e5740808020827v42c00032pcc58c890ce4820a9@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 11:27:50 -0400 From: "todd reynolds" Reply-To: todd@toddreynolds.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: So what IS the damage when travelling by plane? WAS Re: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! In-Reply-To: <4759e5740808020823q45256fa8m4331c52661996d7a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_11391_21914134.1217690871010" References: <9ab0c76f0808020700s45c4c4c3w8c98ae07b16305b6@mail.gmail.com> <4759e5740808020823q45256fa8m4331c52661996d7a@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82488 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 15:27:54 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_11391_21914134.1217690871010 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline but I neglected to say a few things... on 'smallness', I'm carrying 4 rack spaces in an SKB rotorack, which is by definition smaller, but it's the same stuff that most of us carry, an audio interface, oberheim, two wireless units, rackmounted power strip. Zoe's may be larger starting with two repeaters, that's 4U right there. Also, Mark, a quick google on any airline name along with 'baggage pricing and restrictions' will yield same results as below. I'm not traveling internationally until November to Poland, and at that point, i might just buy an ultralight and take no hardware whatsoever to save myself. It will be a good experiment. Bests, Todd On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 11:23 AM, todd reynolds wrote: > on most airlines which I travel these days, an extra bag is $50, an third > extra bag is $100 additional. > over 50 lbs on any one of them is anywhere from $50 to $100, more likely > the latter, > > and over 70 lbs is not accepted. > > ugh. > > > > On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 10:00 AM, mark francombe wrote: > >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 2:49 PM, todd reynolds wrote: >> >>> I've been sticking my rack AND the FCB in a suitcase for awhile now, >>> >> >> Hmm wish mine was that small... >> >>> >>> Doesn't it suck that we have to pay these extra charges now when we >>> travel now though? I've started shipping with UPS when I have to take two >>> rack cases, in fact, >>> >> >> OK Tell me... Im very likely gonna be going to be playing at Y2K8. What >> exactly IS the deal nowadays for travelling on a plane with gear. I have a >> BiG rack (stupid, cos its mostly air, want to change it for a box on wheels, >> thats a bit wider that 19" but less deep, that way I hope to mount table top >> things on the lid... like this --- >> http://www.spider-engineering.co.uk/music/typeproducts2.asp?id=3266-3988 >> except I cant get this in Norway... GRRRR!!!) >> >> Anyway.. I would need to take this, 1 x not very heavy rack (skb thing 19" >> x 20" x 20"- ish) and a guitar case. (Ohh and a FCB!!! ) >> >> Now HOW BAD IS THAT??? When I see all these tourists off to Barbados with >> these HUGE suitcases, 2 of 'em... I know its a funny shape, but weight and >> actual sq ft, cant be much different... >> >> What IS the damage really? In dollars...? >> >> PS: Dont think of damage etc.. Ill risk anything in the hold... my guitar >> is a piece of... >> >> M.x >> >> >> >>> >>> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 4:31 AM, andy butler wrote: >>> >>>> hi Zoe >>>> well, isn't the Gordius Little Giant exactly what you need? >>>> >>>> http://www.gordius.be/ >>>> >>>> tech support from Xavier is superb. >>>> >>>> I got him to re-arrange the buttons so my familiar fcb layout would work >>>> on the Gordius. >>>> >>>> >>>> andy butler >>>> ps when I used fcb1010, it would travel in the hold >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> info at zoekeating wrote: >>>> >>>>> ah the endless foot controller issue... >>>>> >>>>> i just got a rocktron midi mate to see if i could replace my beloved >>>>> (but hard to travel with) FCB1010. i've been working with it for a week, and >>>>> THERE IS NOTHING LIKE MY FCB, WAAAAAAA >>>>> >>>>> i'm going to give it another solid week, but really the FCB rocks. i >>>>> love how easy it is to page between banks. i love the big buttons. it is a >>>>> tank. and if you install the iFCB application, it is a snap to program. >>>>> plus, not many pedals can send notes, program changes and control changes, >>>>> all at the same time. and maybe it is just me, but behringer tech support >>>>> has been amazing, they respond immediately and are very helpful. (yes, i >>>>> know about the history of behringer and what people say...) >>>>> >>>>> but i need it to be smaller. its ridiculous that my $40,000 cello and >>>>> my looping rig go in the hold of a plane, but i have to carry the FCB >>>>> onboard with me in a violin case. when it is just me traveling solo, the >>>>> bulk of the FCB causes me no end of grief. >>>>> >>>>> so if the rocktron doesn't work, i'm going to pay whatever it takes to >>>>> have the expression pedals removed from the FCB. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Bang on a Can has landed once again in North Adams!!! >>> >>> http://blog.toddreynolds.com >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> www.markfrancombe.com >> www.looop.no >> > > > > -- > Bang on a Can has landed once again in North Adams!!! > > http://blog.toddreynolds.com > > -- Bang on a Can has landed once again in North Adams!!! http://blog.toddreynolds.com ------=_Part_11391_21914134.1217690871010 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
but I neglected to say a few things... 

on 'smallness', I'm carrying 4 rack spaces in an SKB rotorack, which is by definition smaller, but it's the same stuff that most of us carry, an audio interface, oberheim, two wireless units, rackmounted power strip.  Zoe's may be larger starting with two repeaters, that's 4U right there.

Also, Mark, a quick google on any airline name along with 'baggage pricing and restrictions' will yield same results as below. I'm not traveling internationally until November to Poland, and at that point, i might just buy an ultralight and take no hardware whatsoever to save myself. It will be a good experiment.

Bests,  Todd

On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 11:23 AM, todd reynolds <toddreyn@gmail.com> wrote:
on most airlines which I travel these days, an extra bag is $50, an third extra bag is $100 additional.  

over 50 lbs on any one of them is anywhere from $50 to $100, more likely the latter, 

and over 70 lbs is not accepted.  

ugh.



On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 10:00 AM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:


On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 2:49 PM, todd reynolds <toddreyn@gmail.com> wrote:
 I've been sticking my rack AND the FCB in a suitcase for awhile now,

Hmm wish mine was that small...

Doesn't it suck that we have to pay these extra charges now when we travel now though? I've started shipping with UPS when I have to take  two rack cases, in fact,

OK Tell me... Im very likely gonna be going to be playing at Y2K8. What exactly IS the deal nowadays for travelling on a plane with gear. I have a BiG rack (stupid, cos its mostly air, want to change it for a box on wheels, thats a bit wider that 19" but less deep, that way I hope to mount table top things on the lid... like this ---
http://www.spider-engineering.co.uk/music/typeproducts2.asp?id=3266-3988
except I cant get this in Norway... GRRRR!!!)

Anyway.. I would need to take this, 1 x not very heavy rack (skb thing 19" x 20" x 20"- ish) and a guitar case. (Ohh and a FCB!!! )

Now HOW BAD IS THAT??? When I see all these tourists off to Barbados with these HUGE suitcases, 2 of 'em... I know its a funny shape, but weight and actual sq ft, cant be much different...

What IS the damage really? In dollars...?

PS: Dont think of damage etc.. Ill risk anything in the hold... my guitar is a piece of...

M.x




On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 4:31 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
hi Zoe
well, isn't the Gordius Little Giant exactly what you need?

http://www.gordius.be/

tech support from Xavier is superb.

I got him to re-arrange the buttons so my familiar fcb layout would work
on the Gordius.


andy butler
ps when I used fcb1010, it would travel in the hold



info at zoekeating wrote:
ah the endless foot controller issue...

i just got a rocktron midi mate to see if i could replace my beloved (but hard to travel with) FCB1010. i've been working with it for a week, and
THERE IS NOTHING LIKE MY FCB, WAAAAAAA

i'm going to give it another solid week, but really the FCB rocks. i love how easy it is to page between banks. i love the big buttons. it is a tank. and if you install the iFCB application, it is a snap to program. plus, not many pedals can send notes, program changes and control changes, all at the same time. and maybe it is just me, but behringer tech support has been amazing, they respond immediately and are very helpful. (yes, i know about the history of behringer and what people say...)

but i need it to be smaller. its ridiculous that my $40,000 cello and my looping rig go in the hold of a plane, but i have to carry the FCB onboard with me in a violin case. when it is just me traveling solo, the bulk of the FCB causes me no end of grief.

so if the rocktron doesn't work, i'm going to pay whatever it takes to have the expression pedals removed from the FCB.






--
Bang on a Can has landed once again in North Adams!!!

http://blog.toddreynolds.com




--
www.markfrancombe.com
www.looop.no



--
Bang on a Can has landed once again in North Adams!!!

http://blog.toddreynolds.com




--
Bang on a Can has landed once again in North Adams!!!

http://blog.toddreynolds.com

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In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_15013_12511339.1217693000624" References: <66f9cc1e0808020357n1cf3a342m59124d41e0861814@mail.gmail.com> <101191640808020447k180350cdjd1ee0195191875bd@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808020458t7a98536cm61c246de2677a2f7@mail.gmail.com> <499c6bd70808020658j3ea845f2h84df876274aeb248@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82489 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 16:03:22 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_15013_12511339.1217693000624 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline You're more than welcome... Most American's English ain't that goodly either... Hasn't it been said that the Engish and the Americans have a common language to separate them? ;) On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Raul Bonell wrote: > Not sarcasm intended, Dave.Just poor english!.. Catalonia (east spain). > > Thanks for the link! > > Raul. > > > 2008/8/2 Dave > >> I'm not sure if that's sarcasm or not, but I'm open to being wrong. I'm >> certainly not saying that I *have* to be right...I just go where the >> empirical evidence points me... >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 9:54 AM, Raul Bonell wrote: >> >>> No discussion possible. Dave's point 100% accurated. >>> >>> 2008/8/2 Dave >>> >>>> They're confiscating any laptops they feel like confiscating and copying >>>> the hard drive for later inspection, the way I heard it. And you may or may >>>> not get it back and they may or may not tell you when. It's just part of how >>>> they're stripping away our rights in their attempt to have a 'war on >>>> terror'. >>>> >>>> Hitler did the same thing...burned down his own buildings, called it a >>>> terrorist attack, used it to consolidate the country's people against his >>>> enemy to further his agenda, stripped the people of their rights and started >>>> wars he said were pre-emptive. The more we let them get away with this kind >>>> of thing, the more they'll do it, and the more they do it, the more they'll >>>> know they can get away with. And now with an election coming up that they >>>> know they're likely to lose, they'll start doing all kinds of stuff to >>>> insure that their agenda has to be carried out even in their absence. In my >>>> opinion, that's why they took the terror alert up the other day...just >>>> something to scare people...just a little...but they'll take up another >>>> notch or two...before they invade Iran or whatever they feel they need to >>>> before they get out of office... >>>> >>>> Wanna download something legal, and worthwhile? >>>> http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/ >>>> >>>> Sure, it's conspiracy theory stuff, but that doesn't make it >>>> incorrect.... >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 7:47 AM, Warren Sirota wrote: >>>> >>>>> Per, I disagree with you on the semiotics of jihad, but that path just >>>>> leads to political arguments better held elsewhere. there are endless >>>>> places on the web to "discuss" things like this. >>>>> >>>>> In regards to this laptop inspection thing - i don't know if it's >>>>> related to this story, but there was a story circulating on the tech >>>>> podcasts a month or two ago about inspectors confiscating laptops with >>>>> allegedly pirated music files on them. and, since the customs >>>>> authorities (and, indeed, almost everyone) has no way to tell which >>>>> files might be pirated and which not, they were confiscating laptops >>>>> with *any* music on it. i don't know how true this is, but i would >>>>> think twice before taking my laptop into or out of the US. >>>>> >>>>> Warren >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to >>>> the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo >>> Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com >>> TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra >>> TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the >> concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" >> > > > > -- > The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra > TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com > -- "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" ------=_Part_15013_12511339.1217693000624 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
You're more than welcome...

Most American's English ain't that goodly either...

Hasn't it been said that the Engish and the Americans have a common language to separate them? ;)

On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 10:02 AM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:
Not sarcasm intended, Dave.
Just poor english!.. Catalonia (east spain).

 Thanks for the link!

Raul.


2008/8/2 Dave <prog.music.freak@gmail.com>
I'm not sure if that's sarcasm or not, but I'm open to being wrong. I'm certainly not saying that I *have* to be right...I just go where the empirical evidence points me...


On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 9:54 AM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:
No discussion possible. 
Dave's point 100% accurated.


2008/8/2 Dave <prog.music.freak@gmail.com>
They're confiscating any laptops they feel like confiscating and copying the hard drive for later inspection, the way I heard it. And you may or may not get it back and they may or may not tell you when. It's just part of how they're stripping away our rights in their attempt to have a 'war on terror'.

Hitler did the same thing...burned down his own buildings, called it a terrorist attack, used it to consolidate the country's people against his enemy to further his agenda, stripped the people of their rights and started wars he said were pre-emptive. The more we let them get away with this kind of thing, the more they'll do it, and the more they do it, the more they'll know they can get away with. And now with an election coming up that they know they're likely to lose, they'll start doing all kinds of stuff to insure that their agenda has to be carried out even in their absence. In my opinion, that's why they took the terror alert up the other day...just something to scare people...just a little...but they'll take up another notch or two...before they invade Iran or whatever they feel they need to before they get out of office...

Wanna download something legal, and worthwhile?
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

Sure, it's conspiracy theory stuff, but that doesn't make it incorrect....


On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 7:47 AM, Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com> wrote:
Per, I disagree with you on the semiotics of jihad, but that path just
leads to political arguments better held elsewhere. there are endless
places on the web to "discuss" things like this.

In regards to this laptop inspection thing - i don't know if it's
related to this story, but there was a story circulating on the tech
podcasts a month or two ago about inspectors confiscating laptops with
allegedly pirated music files on them. and, since the customs
authorities (and, indeed, almost everyone) has no way to tell which
files might be pirated and which not, they were confiscating laptops
with *any* music on it. i don't know how true this is, but i would
think twice before taking my laptop into or out of the US.

Warren




--
"The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos"



--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com



--
"The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos"



--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com



--
"The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos"
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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 2 19:12:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 854033BF88; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 19:12:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=MD93UUcVs4hFRFbmVoEA:9 a=71rztex5eb2ihlh90Mr9k8sfxgoA:4 a=hpF-ijbX5cwA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chris Sewell Subject: Re: more thoughts about the FCB1010 Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 15:12:42 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: <5tbdbC.A.suF.pGLlIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82490 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 19:12:41 +0000 (UTC) Why not just UPS it to wherever you are going? On Aug 1, 2008, at 11:28 PM, info at zoekeating wrote: > one other thought about the FCB... > > i played a 3hr gig today at the SF Airport, and it was about half > improvisation (i was directly over the TSA security checkpoint and > thought uplifting ambiance would be a good thing to do rather than > "songs"). i realize that the FCB is so tied into my loopers (which > today was 4 instances of SooperLooper and 2 Electrix Repeaters) > that i think of the FCB as the instrument, rather than the loopers. > i like how direct it is. i don't even think about it, and in fact, > i hardly even have to look at it (er, because it is so LARGE, the > thing i complain about). > > it was really nice to be so fluid. i could just improvise freely > and build up endless structures, and my tools were transparent. > that was a nice place to be. > > i'm hoping this will also be true for any other foot controller i > choose...fingers crossed. but there is something important about > not having to think in "modes" (i.e. software modes, like tabs in > an interface) but instead being directly mapped to your devices. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 2 20:22:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 205893BF88; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 20:22:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=U7QNE6dL2wYA:10 a=KKp-qGfS-MoA:10 a=jKf0Pfm3AAAA:8 a=OMSU3QLGAAAA:8 a=62hPNct7AAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=g78805m0lWjfzJX-6ksA:9 a=qAwxVQM0pwiwUu-QWzsA:7 a=VS5V_QSmvZ77N8Hka2BrqOTnTKgA:4 a=by2dKgXnggYA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: info at zoekeating Subject: Re: alternate foot controllers for the Echoplex Digital Pro Plus Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 13:22:52 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82491 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 20:22:55 +0000 (UTC) hello there, do you know if you can edit the program change messages sent in standard mode? for example if the bank number display says 01, you can have the program change message be 23 (instead of 01). i don't own an FC300 but i've been trying to figure this out from the manual. thanks! zoe On Aug 1, 2008, at 3:02 AM, Sjaak wrote: >> Luis wrote >> Ive heard good things about this one >> http://www.roland.com/products/en/FC-300/index.html >> Sjaak from this list can probably answer a lot of your questions >> here is his web > > Hey Luis, how's life? :) Yes, the FC-300 is a very flexible > controller. For example, it can send up to 6 control change > messages per expression pedal on different midi channels. And has > been very reliable so far. > > --- > Sjaak > http://www.livelooping.be/ > http://www.overgaauw.be/ > http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 2 20:36:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 48CEE3BF92; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 20:36:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Nk1VVVJ3gmAA:10 a=YXOspHT6iKkA:10 a=Rkq2MSCPPwGV3P_ASmYA:9 a=TQqzyjDBXNQYx1jlDcQA:7 a=6QW01EMsZdcNSu3GZ3kbU1FuAvQA:4 a=bc-At0-sGGwA:10 a=zQ9c0w_PcFEgWKRTp2UA:9 a=d3Up6Vab4aVCUO9VW7oA:7 a=CluF-Jc2uYKh4xOf2019ZrkolQ8A:4 a=37WNUvjkh6kA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <48941B4F.8070305@tiscali.co.uk> References: <66f9cc1e0808010203id258df6k8c59c2c67abecf6@mail.gmail.com> <31CB4B54-A3ED-4ED8-AF4D-296B5F5BA344@zoekeating.com> <48941B4F.8070305@tiscali.co.uk> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-3-1031496912 Message-Id: From: info at zoekeating Subject: Re: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 13:36:21 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82492 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 20:36:24 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-3-1031496912 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed this is my problem...when i travel, i've already got: - cello in flight case = oversize (bigger than a person) but 49lbs - looping rig/gear in flight case = standard luggage size, 49lbs - my clothes + costumes + merch in a suitcase - computer/carry on - behringer pedal in violin case/carry on so that's already 3 checked bags, one of them oversize = EXPENSIVE i'm reluctant to also check the pedal, unless it is in a padded case...more weight and that makes 4 checked items and that is the maximum weight i can handle on when i'm traveling as alone. its almost too much, getting around it a bit of a nightmare. the damn behringer pedal pushes it over the top, as much as i love it. On Aug 2, 2008, at 1:31 AM, andy butler wrote: > andy butler > ps when I used fcb1010, it would travel in the hold --Apple-Mail-3-1031496912 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 this is my problem...when i travel, i've already = got:=A0

-=A0cello in flight case =3D = oversize (bigger than a person) but 49lbs=A0
-=A0looping= rig/gear in flight case =3D standard luggage size, = 49lbs
= -=A0my clothes + costumes + merch in a suitcase
= -=A0computer/carry on
-=A0behringer pedal in violin = case/carry on

so that's already 3 checked bags, = one of them oversize =3D EXPENSIVE
i'm reluctant to also check = the pedal, unless it is in a padded case...more weight and that makes 4 = checked items

and that is the maximum weight i = can handle on when i'm traveling as alone.
its almost too = much, getting around it a bit of a = nightmare.

the damn behringer pedal pushes it = over the top, as much as i love = it.



On Aug 2, = 2008, at 1:31 AM, andy butler wrote:

andy butler

=

ps when I used = fcb1010, it would travel in the hold

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= --Apple-Mail-3-1031496912-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 2 20:49:12 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D40EB3BF9B; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 20:49:11 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 21:49:09 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: New LP1 live improvisation MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 87.66.126.71 X-DCC--Metrics: hel; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82493 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 20:49:11 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I just uploaded a new live improvisation on Myspace, the first one I crea= ted live with the LP1. I must say I'm really happy with it...and now I'm = on holidays for the next 8 days ;) Have fun! --- Sjaak http://www.livelooping.be/ http://www.overgaauw.be/ http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 2 20:59:19 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id ED9803BF99; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 20:59:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=j0XfBECEO0MhXueDAvcBH6/81HW1gSw3x4tl0zlh86M=; b=jQjJ9UR/jdj46+thaGlD9mCAzSHZMwVdpurGnDCln57B4PfgVJR++uo7vrTPQMRVrm 5awzxXM/+lSTcktz4fppuGjbwtO2s0DfewP9SoJ74Ecc2AxXv4RSjlqXWcpKlg/cO67f VQthNTYV4MDSN7cB6tTCdy3B9gCql/5qZbr9E= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=j3fPl+v56s1DGpmURPR4UtAsYUmDJsS2Pnw+tcPRkV3uSKLjQD4AkWtjEJK3PgTk/A 8U2UKWLla3ETCu1kW6bMUT3JS/p6cpy7U+P3sdfFlBCKUaot0YgrNL4iCQxsl3IujkT4 FAjuD4ZhJdY7WaERDfGNnNB7v8wvadf+KO5JE= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808021359q270e6915p2e2cea249e1ff9ed@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 22:59:18 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New LP1 live improvisation In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82494 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 20:59:18 +0000 (UTC) On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 10:49 PM, Sjaak wrote: > Hi, > I just uploaded a new live improvisation on Myspace, the first one I created live with the LP1. I must say I'm really happy with it...and now I'm on holidays for the next 8 days ;) Have fun! That sound really good, Sjaak! I'm listening here as I'm typing and the MySpace player says "Plays 1"!!!! :-)) What an honor! Have a wonderful holday! -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 2 20:59:45 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CB9DE3BF9E; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 20:59:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=AKrjdibl0CAA:10 a=v5FW-yWJaJUA:10 a=N45UQfIpVBsu670fdPEA:9 a=-qfyDod9uVruMIq2T7Oj9hxeT6cA:4 a=NYSBMI4Qr4UA:10 a=LqrWzZgd83avNXTgFgwA:9 a=nP2xOL4NxCwZWtOyNIwhYhvj6dcA:4 a=37WNUvjkh6kA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0808020700s45c4c4c3w8c98ae07b16305b6@mail.gmail.com> References: <9ab0c76f0808020700s45c4c4c3w8c98ae07b16305b6@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5-1032899352 Message-Id: From: info at zoekeating Subject: Re: So what IS the damage when travelling by plane? WAS Re: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 13:59:44 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: <_5OBJD.A.yWB.BrMlIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82495 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 20:59:45 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-5-1032899352 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed depends on the airline and how much cleavage you can show them...fees should be on their website. if i get a humorless clerk who is impervious to cleavage and charm i might pay $100-$150 for oversize, plus $100 for each extra bag, and even more if that extra bag happens to be over 50lbs. however, that was BEFORE all the baggage charges. so i assume when i fly next week, it will cost even more. On Aug 2, 2008, at 7:00 AM, mark francombe wrote: > > What IS the damage really? In dollars...? > > PS: Dont think of damage etc.. Ill risk anything in the hold... my > guitar is a piece of... --Apple-Mail-5-1032899352 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII depends on the airline and how = much cleavage you can show them...fees should be on their = website.

if i get a humorless clerk who is impervious = to cleavage and charm i might pay $100-$150 for oversize, plus $100 for = each extra bag, and even more if that extra bag happens to be over = 50lbs.

however, that was BEFORE all the baggage = charges. so i assume when i fly next week, it will cost even = more.



On Aug 2, = 2008, at 7:00 AM, mark francombe wrote:


What IS the damage really? In = dollars...?

PS: Dont think of damage etc.. Ill risk anything in = the hold... my guitar is a piece = of...

= --Apple-Mail-5-1032899352-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 2 21:04:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8CECE3BFAC; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 21:04:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <66f9cc1e0808010203id258df6k8c59c2c67abecf6@mail.gmail.com> <31CB4B54-A3ED-4ED8-AF4D-296B5F5BA344@zoekeating.com> <48941B4F.8070305@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 15:04:02 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_004D_01C8F4B0.FFC3C2A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512 Resent-Message-ID: <-kKbQC.A.ZhB.KvMlIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82496 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 21:04:10 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004D_01C8F4B0.FFC3C2A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Good grief. When are you going to go all laptop, Zoe? Check out Jeff = Kaiser's article "How I lost 150 lbs. thanks to Max/MSP!"=20 http://www.jeffkaiser.com/papers/spark_2007.pdf I don't see musician wages continuing to go up in proportation to flying = costs, so I envision a time when musicians will be forced to dispense = with rack gear, or not play anywhere they can't drive to. It will be an = adapt and go laptop or die of starvation scenario. I can bring my entire rig on the plane (one computer bag) and my mini = jazz guitar in case. =20 So, what are you paying for the checked in bags below? Aren't some = airlines charging for a second and third check in back now? I think a = few are even charing for one.=20 Kris ********** this is my problem...when i travel, i've already got:=20 - cello in flight case =3D oversize (bigger than a person) but 49lbs=20 - looping rig/gear in flight case =3D standard luggage size, 49lbs - my clothes + costumes + merch in a suitcase - computer/carry on - behringer pedal in violin case/carry on so that's already 3 checked bags, one of them oversize =3D EXPENSIVE i'm reluctant to also check the pedal, unless it is in a padded = case...more weight and that makes 4 checked items and that is the maximum weight i can handle on when i'm traveling as = alone. its almost too much, getting around it a bit of a nightmare. the damn behringer pedal pushes it over the top, as much as i love it. On Aug 2, 2008, at 1:31 AM, andy butler wrote: andy butler ps when I used fcb1010, it would travel in the hold ------=_NextPart_000_004D_01C8F4B0.FFC3C2A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Good grief.  When are you going to = go all=20 laptop, Zoe?  Check out Jeff Kaiser's article "How I lost 150 = lbs.=20 thanks to Max/MSP!"
 
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I don't see musician wages continuing = to go up in=20 proportation to flying costs, so I envision a time when musicians will = be forced=20 to dispense with rack gear, or not play anywhere they can't drive = to.  It=20 will be an adapt and go laptop or die of = starvation scenario.
 
I can bring my entire rig on the plane = (one=20 computer bag) and my mini jazz guitar in case. 
 
So, what are you paying for the checked = in bags=20 below?  Aren't some airlines charging for a second and third check = in back=20 now?  I think a few are even charing for one.
 
Kris


**********
this is my = problem...when i=20 travel, i've already got:

- cello in flight case =3D oversize = (bigger than=20 a person) but 49lbs
- looping rig/gear in flight case =3D standard = luggage=20 size, 49lbs
- my clothes + costumes + merch in a suitcase
- = computer/carry=20 on
- behringer pedal in violin case/carry on

so that's already = 3=20 checked bags, one of them oversize =3D EXPENSIVE
i'm reluctant to = also check=20 the pedal, unless it is in a padded case...more weight and that makes 4 = checked=20 items

and that is the maximum weight i can handle on when i'm = traveling=20 as alone.
its almost too much, getting around it a bit of a=20 nightmare.


the damn behringer pedal pushes it over the top, = as much=20 as i love it.






On Aug 2, 2008, at 1:31 AM, = andy butler=20 wrote:


andy butler
ps when I used fcb1010, it would travel = in the=20 hold
------=_NextPart_000_004D_01C8F4B0.FFC3C2A0-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 2 21:17:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3BAEF3BFCC; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 21:17:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Nk1VVVJ3gmAA:10 a=YXOspHT6iKkA:10 a=gH5bP67CAAAA:8 a=Ql3BUjdrxaFswxfyGYQA:9 a=uxjzFj2KnEuE8xri3cYA:7 a=9zzwTYJ_HMVWY9MFmxYNRNndK_MA:4 a=JlJGbxHC2ywA:10 a=Q0l4heWF6ngqoLIMZbIA:9 a=4zUXE1qDXhnXiM2QW5oA:7 a=QFWj6HDSWdu7l8UFTmHv7VLfZA0A:4 a=37WNUvjkh6kA:10 In-Reply-To: References: <66f9cc1e0808010203id258df6k8c59c2c67abecf6@mail.gmail.com> <31CB4B54-A3ED-4ED8-AF4D-296B5F5BA344@zoekeating.com> <48941B4F.8070305@tiscali.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) X-Priority: 3 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-6-1033973737 Message-Id: <5B183E97-832A-4BA0-9CF2-928E13A95978@zoekeating.com> From: info at zoekeating Subject: Re: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 14:17:38 -0700 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82497 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 21:17:41 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-6-1033973737 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed yup, it is ridiculous. i do still hope to lose the repeaters and the pedal for my next trip. economy-wise though, i've been flying most recently for corporate gigs, where they pay for all the travel. so i shouldn't really complain because i'm not personally paying the fees (although i have to explain them!). but for carbon reasons i want to fly less. its something i think about every time and why i try not to do "one-off" gigs anymore (where i'm flown to some distant location for one concert). On Aug 2, 2008, at 2:04 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > Good grief. When are you going to go all laptop, Zoe? Check out > Jeff Kaiser's article "How I lost 150 lbs. thanks to Max/MSP!" > > http://www.jeffkaiser.com/papers/spark_2007.pdf > > I don't see musician wages continuing to go up in proportation to > flying costs, so I envision a time when musicians will be forced to > dispense with rack gear, or not play anywhere they can't drive to. > It will be an adapt and go laptop or die of starvation scenario. > > I can bring my entire rig on the plane (one computer bag) and my > mini jazz guitar in case. > > So, what are you paying for the checked in bags below? Aren't some > airlines charging for a second and third check in back now? I > think a few are even charing for one. > > Kris > --Apple-Mail-6-1033973737 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 yup, it is ridiculous. i do still hope to lose the repeaters and the = pedal for my next trip.

economy-wise though, i've = been flying most recently for corporate gigs, where they pay for all the = travel. so i shouldn't really complain because i'm not personally paying = the fees (although i have to explain them!). but=A0for carbon reasons i = want to fly less. its something i think about every time and why i try = not to do "one-off" gigs anymore (where i'm flown to some distant = location for one = concert).


On Aug 2, 2008, at = 2:04 PM, Krispen Hartung wrote:

Good grief.=A0 When are you going to go all laptop, Zoe?=A0 = Check out Jeff Kaiser's article=A0"How I lost 150 lbs. thanks to = Max/MSP!"
=A0
http://www.jeffkaiser.com/papers/spark_2007.pdf
=A0
I don't see musician wages continuing to go up = in proportation to flying costs, so I envision a time when musicians = will be forced to dispense with rack gear, or not play anywhere they = can't drive to.=A0 It will be an adapt and go laptop or die of = starvation=A0scenario.
=A0
I can = bring my entire rig on the plane (one computer bag) and my mini jazz = guitar in case.=A0
=A0
So, what = are you paying for the checked in bags below?=A0 Aren't some airlines = charging for a second and third check in back now?=A0 I think a few are = even charing for one.
=A0
Kris


= --Apple-Mail-6-1033973737-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sat Aug 2 22:12:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F40583BFB9; Sat, 2 Aug 2008 22:12:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <1F653C97633C408C81119F193F0586C0@americas.hpqcorp.net> From: "Krispen Hartung" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com References: <66f9cc1e0808010203id258df6k8c59c2c67abecf6@mail.gmail.com> <31CB4B54-A3ED-4ED8-AF4D-296B5F5BA344@zoekeating.com> <48941B4F.8070305@tiscali.co.uk> <5B183E97-832A-4BA0-9CF2-928E13A95978@zoekeating.com> Subject: Re: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 16:12:50 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0061_01C8F4BA.9C697330" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5512 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82498 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 22:12:54 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0061_01C8F4BA.9C697330 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I hear you. When I read that data on carbon emissions of jets, I was = floored. I only travel 2-3 times a quarter (3 months) on average, but it = still counts. Then I was even more floored when I read the greenhouse = impact of the cows and the beef industry. Cripes. Sort of compells me = to stop eating beef....I'm getting there. Sorry, this is OT. :) Kris ----- Original Message -----=20 From: info at zoekeating=20 but for carbon reasons i want to fly less. its something i think about = every time and why i try not to do "one-off" gigs anymore (where i'm = flown to some distant location for one concert). ------=_NextPart_000_0061_01C8F4BA.9C697330 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I hear you. When I read that data on = carbon=20 emissions of jets, I was floored. I only travel 2-3 times a quarter (3 = months)=20 on average, but it still counts. Then I was even more floored when I = read the=20 greenhouse impact of the cows and the beef industry. Cripes. =  Sort of=20 compells me to stop eating beef....I'm getting there. Sorry, this is OT. = :)
 
Kris
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 info at=20 zoekeating

but for carbon reasons i want = to fly=20 less. its something i think about every time and why i try not to do = "one-off"=20 gigs anymore (where i'm flown to some distant location for one = concert).

 
------=_NextPart_000_0061_01C8F4BA.9C697330-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 00:10:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3180D3BFB3; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 00:10:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=m7IPvQaD9u4lHH8LoIojwsTWBCFxuEipguBotUX8MUo=; b=CAiPkjVaHDR+Di0TsJIfAv2w4z51oa6f5tv2JQ4iPv1iOlSTWTuSKbka2MpXhCtUS+ +nVTotBxD87/znk7vgaxST/N7S6IMdzv6wLKvpnnGDT5+aukYy8ubqDmvsJrRB1nTvO8 ZPMVDwoq2qWkQfk8XfoH+DPYFK3ooy3yGm9Aw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=QMHvv6e0wWEnY6on3Su0cUDEgXew6Kb0LzFEb+mEWDjT1QFLwoDkZmUI3SwgyxDmTD NF6McXR1SbLOm4F1dJsluP/icok4XlS7LLKiegNaKfWQgmH+XxbDfn4ypdVeX22/rSNF x0QE4TJqhh+RB4N1+UHcoSESnB3seXRcwukJ0= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0808021710m1285a538s7d80c4fa386e747d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 02:10:26 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! In-Reply-To: <1F653C97633C408C81119F193F0586C0@americas.hpqcorp.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_16628_18315408.1217722226107" References: <66f9cc1e0808010203id258df6k8c59c2c67abecf6@mail.gmail.com> <31CB4B54-A3ED-4ED8-AF4D-296B5F5BA344@zoekeating.com> <48941B4F.8070305@tiscali.co.uk> <5B183E97-832A-4BA0-9CF2-928E13A95978@zoekeating.com> <1F653C97633C408C81119F193F0586C0@americas.hpqcorp.net> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 04543b2f689a28b5 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82499 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 00:10:28 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_16628_18315408.1217722226107 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline 2-3 times a quarter??????? Did you say ONLY???? Where to? I flew once last year, (ok twice ..there and back) I have flown once this year and expect to do so once more... But I heard that figure about the Cow farts too... is that true?? Quite incredible and serious!!! Apparently far more dangerous than Air Travel On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 12:12 AM, Krispen Hartung wrote: > I hear you. When I read that data on carbon emissions of jets, I was > floored. I only travel 2-3 times a quarter (3 months) on average, but it > still counts. Then I was even more floored when I read the greenhouse impact > of the cows and the beef industry. Cripes. Sort of compells me to stop > eating beef....I'm getting there. Sorry, this is OT. :) > > Kris > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* info at zoekeating > > but for carbon reasons i want to fly less. its something i think about > every time and why i try not to do "one-off" gigs anymore (where i'm flown > to some distant location for one concert). > > > > -- www.markfrancombe.com www.looop.no ------=_Part_16628_18315408.1217722226107 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
2-3 times a quarter??????? Did you say ONLY????
Where to?

I flew once last year, (ok twice ..there and back)
I have flown once this year and expect to do so once more...

But I heard that figure about the Cow farts too... is that true?? Quite incredible and serious!!! Apparently far more dangerous than Air Travel



On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 12:12 AM, Krispen Hartung <khartung@cableone.net> wrote:
I hear you. When I read that data on carbon emissions of jets, I was floored. I only travel 2-3 times a quarter (3 months) on average, but it still counts. Then I was even more floored when I read the greenhouse impact of the cows and the beef industry. Cripes.  Sort of compells me to stop eating beef....I'm getting there. Sorry, this is OT. :)
 
Kris
 
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but for carbon reasons i want to fly less. its something i think about every time and why i try not to do "one-off" gigs anymore (where i'm flown to some distant location for one concert).

 



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------=_Part_16628_18315408.1217722226107-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 00:26:15 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 6FCF53BFCB; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 00:26:15 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:mime-version:content-type:x-google-sender-auth; bh=vF5itsSTq+0MnZBrGcJfhQO8KhAB/rLzlgOKEmbPYsM=; b=eft+9UlUR4q5IbXiqKBjjDKmiDAO4XO8gvPXXsE+dVEA0GUQUvOs/cwBhgz8IacI/m Jv4FjwXTh7i1EwFLCHI68kKdpuZGQTZzDTMZvTLOHhvP9PdSHQc420sgEpY6FGN83FXU VG/vtKfBsDNtGLZuOZX+MFwJ7oHphj484JZbU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :x-google-sender-auth; b=LzBblRj0Q+mR3h+DyU1smmzL4gcgUW6ygsRFBV3dDxHXryYwRbT2fPyeV/4Jv6FZyq 35Y/qn2x5fkHr6KjLGjc4pSc5G70lc11YvhJETltb0+lHhbgNd9HBHAr2k+nJmccBbvz u3FQQiyNvf3G8JNzNg/mMmuLbYRAP2FIFHhAo= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0808021726i11ff7cf5o801f8030cc5ad9f7@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 02:26:13 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_16692_1804091.1217723173250" X-Google-Sender-Auth: 456a5b737e1b038d Resent-Message-ID: <2MZaBD.A._P.nsPlIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82500 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 00:26:15 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_16692_1804091.1217723173250 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Dave, i just wanted to say, that although I took it with a fairly hefty pinch of salt, I just downzoned and watched your suggested link to Zeitgeist. THANK YOU! And although one has to wade through quite a few minutes of long and drawn out arty farty nonsense, esspecially at the beginning, which was a shame, ... WOW... what a movie... Not that i had'nt heard most of it before, but for its well researched and (shock horror) brilliantly written and presented messages. Take this off list if you prefer, but how was this movie made, and has it been aired? I may be able to get it shown on Norwegian TV, over here... if only as a highly editted form (three episode for example)... I didnt quite see the relavance of the Religeon section, and the subject has been done to death on Discovery recently, but again, the conciseness and simplicity of how it was presented made an often muddy subject clear! BUT THE 911 STUFF... OMG... The government funded and planned operation of 911, is a commonly held hypothesis over here, but there was so much in this depiction that i never heard of!!! A few unanswered question too however, can't this be spammed to the American voter somehow??? Thanks again, you saved me from a sofa doze evening... M On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Dave wrote: > They're confiscating any laptops they feel like confiscating and copying > the hard drive for later inspection, the way I heard it. And you may or may > not get it back and they may or may not tell you when. It's just part of how > they're stripping away our rights in their attempt to have a 'war on > terror'. > > Hitler did the same thing...burned down his own buildings, called it a > terrorist attack, used it to consolidate the country's people against his > enemy to further his agenda, stripped the people of their rights and started > wars he said were pre-emptive. The more we let them get away with this kind > of thing, the more they'll do it, and the more they do it, the more they'll > know they can get away with. And now with an election coming up that they > know they're likely to lose, they'll start doing all kinds of stuff to > insure that their agenda has to be carried out even in their absence. In my > opinion, that's why they took the terror alert up the other day...just > something to scare people...just a little...but they'll take up another > notch or two...before they invade Iran or whatever they feel they need to > before they get out of office... > > Wanna download something legal, and worthwhile? > http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/ > > Sure, it's conspiracy theory stuff, but that doesn't make it incorrect.... > > > On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 7:47 AM, Warren Sirota wrote: > >> Per, I disagree with you on the semiotics of jihad, but that path just >> leads to political arguments better held elsewhere. there are endless >> places on the web to "discuss" things like this. >> >> In regards to this laptop inspection thing - i don't know if it's >> related to this story, but there was a story circulating on the tech >> podcasts a month or two ago about inspectors confiscating laptops with >> allegedly pirated music files on them. and, since the customs >> authorities (and, indeed, almost everyone) has no way to tell which >> files might be pirated and which not, they were confiscating laptops >> with *any* music on it. i don't know how true this is, but i would >> think twice before taking my laptop into or out of the US. >> >> Warren >> >> > > > -- > "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the > concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" > -- www.markfrancombe.com www.looop.no ------=_Part_16692_1804091.1217723173250 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Dave,

i just wanted to say, that although I took it with a fairly hefty pinch of salt, I just downzoned and watched your suggested link to Zeitgeist.

THANK YOU!

And although one has to wade through quite a few minutes of long and drawn out arty farty nonsense, esspecially at the beginning, which was a shame, ... WOW... what a movie... Not that i had'nt heard most of it before, but for its well researched and (shock horror) brilliantly written and presented messages.
Take this off list if you prefer, but how was this movie made, and has it been aired? I may be able to get it shown on Norwegian TV, over here... if only as a highly editted form (three episode for example)...
I didnt quite see the relavance of the Religeon section, and the subject has been done to death on Discovery recently, but again, the conciseness and simplicity of how it was presented made an often muddy subject clear!

BUT THE 911 STUFF... OMG... The government funded and planned operation of 911, is a commonly held hypothesis over here, but there was so much in this depiction that i never heard of!!! A few unanswered question too however, can't this be spammed to the American voter somehow???

Thanks again, you saved me from a sofa doze evening...

M


On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Dave <prog.music.freak@gmail.com> wrote:
They're confiscating any laptops they feel like confiscating and copying the hard drive for later inspection, the way I heard it. And you may or may not get it back and they may or may not tell you when. It's just part of how they're stripping away our rights in their attempt to have a 'war on terror'.

Hitler did the same thing...burned down his own buildings, called it a terrorist attack, used it to consolidate the country's people against his enemy to further his agenda, stripped the people of their rights and started wars he said were pre-emptive. The more we let them get away with this kind of thing, the more they'll do it, and the more they do it, the more they'll know they can get away with. And now with an election coming up that they know they're likely to lose, they'll start doing all kinds of stuff to insure that their agenda has to be carried out even in their absence. In my opinion, that's why they took the terror alert up the other day...just something to scare people...just a little...but they'll take up another notch or two...before they invade Iran or whatever they feel they need to before they get out of office...

Wanna download something legal, and worthwhile?
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

Sure, it's conspiracy theory stuff, but that doesn't make it incorrect....


On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 7:47 AM, Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com> wrote:
Per, I disagree with you on the semiotics of jihad, but that path just
leads to political arguments better held elsewhere. there are endless
places on the web to "discuss" things like this.

In regards to this laptop inspection thing - i don't know if it's
related to this story, but there was a story circulating on the tech
podcasts a month or two ago about inspectors confiscating laptops with
allegedly pirated music files on them. and, since the customs
authorities (and, indeed, almost everyone) has no way to tell which
files might be pirated and which not, they were confiscating laptops
with *any* music on it. i don't know how true this is, but i would
think twice before taking my laptop into or out of the US.

Warren




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------=_Part_16692_1804091.1217723173250-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Sun Aug 3 00:51:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B64B3BFD0; Sun, 3 Aug 2008 00:51:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=Kq4vRpJGUTkIgInDKIWNKQVnF4YwQUgAv4TD5hkXQ8U=; b=UfFFuUxJEggr11syc8ypgtEGnab/uALq3s9N7RYE3XOoFeRt8aUhIjHhl0l0p46yUL Rc6z4/YpjUo7weddPblkCUdfK6JmfQ2goh/X8IClHQtYGVtVZWDb0d9OQhrn8N6+y3G3 honT5RML6WCjka4b7BOx+RgciPIVI0T3wZj28= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=hWkuEj/xY1LchVlro3GzIo+srCNg+kSOxf6IeQAxK6oi7t7f0eTtwIGkUqBeKNfdZY 602OfBSAYn61MjnVMP2IlJWRTFstCrlpkpmaZ1dDEhWPgDImKBE90M/643DHyV86KbmW dWxZgmf0+Xdyx6O9R+Hhrr/5o3M3d1P1u45To= Message-ID: <499c6bd70808021751j21f5e5ees9f471e4e22874e42@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 20:51:33 -0400 From: Dave To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Very OT: Zeitgeist, The Movie... WAS... Semi-OT: Int'l Travellers' Laptops Confiscated... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_17477_7042141.1217724693339" Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82501 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 00:51:34 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_17477_7042141.1217724693339 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Yeah, there is a lot of pre-movie graphics, etc. I guess they needed to fill time...but they stuff so much info in afterwards, ya wonder why they bothered. Glad you liked it. Definitely opened my eyes to a few things. I knew a lot of the 9/11 stuff, and it's not that uncommon of knowledge (at least in my circles), but I think people here are resigned to the govt being too big and powerful for them to do anything. They keep us in fear, keep us broke, and keep stripping our rights...but there is no one organizing. And do you mean to tell me that people in *Norway* believe in the 9/11 / US govt conspiracy also? Has Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 9/11" been played there (though much milder than is this film)? The relevance to the section on religion is that US politicians invoke the name of G-d to help them get elected, then do nothing close to practicing wholesale Christianity once they have the chance, when they get into office, for thousands, if not millions, of people. They use it to consolidate voters for them. My understanding is that the discussion of personal religious beliefs by European candidates for office is basically unheard of. Perhaps that's why this portion doesn't come across? Personally, I think the 'separation of church and state' in America has done more to foster its growth than it has to hold it in check. On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 8:26 PM, mark francombe wrote: > Dave, > > i just wanted to say, that although I took it with a fairly hefty pinch of > salt, I just downzoned and watched your suggested link to Zeitgeist. > > THANK YOU! > > And although one has to wade through quite a few minutes of long and drawn > out arty farty nonsense, esspecially at the beginning, which was a shame, > ... WOW... what a movie... Not that i had'nt heard most of it before, but > for its well researched and (shock horror) brilliantly written and presented > messages. > Take this off list if you prefer, but how was this movie made, and has it > been aired? I may be able to get it shown on Norwegian TV, over here... if > only as a highly editted form (three episode for example)... > I didnt quite see the relavance of the Religeon section, and the subject > has been done to death on Discovery recently, but again, the conciseness and > simplicity of how it was presented made an often muddy subject clear! > > BUT THE 911 STUFF... OMG... The government funded and planned operation of > 911, is a commonly held hypothesis over here, but there was so much in this > depiction that i never heard of!!! A few unanswered question too however, > can't this be spammed to the American voter somehow??? > > Thanks again, you saved me from a sofa doze evening... > > M > > > On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Dave wrote: > >> They're confiscating any laptops they feel like confiscating and copying >> the hard drive for later inspection, the way I heard it. And you may or may >> not get it back and they may or may not tell you when. It's just part of how >> they're stripping away our rights in their attempt to have a 'war on >> terror'. >> >> Hitler did the same thing...burned down his own buildings, called it a >> terrorist attack, used it to consolidate the country's people against his >> enemy to further his agenda, stripped the people of their rights and started >> wars he said were pre-emptive. The more we let them get away with this kind >> of thing, the more they'll do it, and the more they do it, the more they'll >> know they can get away with. And now with an election coming up that they >> know they're likely to lose, they'll start doing all kinds of stuff to >> insure that their agenda has to be carried out even in their absence. In my >> opinion, that's why they took the terror alert up the other day...just >> something to scare people...just a little...but they'll take up another >> notch or two...before they invade Iran or whatever they feel they need to >> before they get out of office... >> >> Wanna download something legal, and worthwhile? >> http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/ >> >> Sure, it's conspiracy theory stuff, but that doesn't make it incorrect.... >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 7:47 AM, Warren Sirota wrote: >> >>> Per, I disagree with you on the semiotics of jihad, but that path just >>> leads to political arguments better held elsewhere. there are endless >>> places on the web to "discuss" things like this. >>> >>> In regards to this laptop inspection thing - i don't know if it's >>> related to this story, but there was a story circulating on the tech >>> podcasts a month or two ago about inspectors confiscating laptops with >>> allegedly pirated music files on them. and, since the customs >>> authorities (and, indeed, almost everyone) has no way to tell which >>> files might be pirated and which not, they were confiscating laptops >>> with *any* music on it. i don't know how true this is, but i would >>> think twice before taking my laptop into or out of the US. >>> >>> Warren >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the >> concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" >> > > > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > www.looop.no > -- "The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos" ------=_Part_17477_7042141.1217724693339 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Yeah, there is a lot of pre-movie graphics, etc. I guess they needed to fill time...but they stuff so much info in afterwards, ya wonder why they bothered.

Glad you liked it. Definitely opened my eyes to a few things. I knew a lot of the 9/11 stuff, and it's not that uncommon of knowledge (at least in my circles), but I think people here are resigned to the govt being too big and powerful for them to do anything. They keep us in fear, keep us broke, and keep stripping our rights...but there is no one organizing.

And do you mean to tell me that people in *Norway* believe in the 9/11 / US govt conspiracy also?

Has Michael Moore's "Fahrenheit 9/11" been played there (though much milder than is this film)?

The relevance to the section on religion is that US politicians invoke the name of G-d to help them get elected, then do nothing close to practicing wholesale Christianity once they have the chance, when they get into office, for thousands, if not millions, of people. They use it to consolidate voters for them. My understanding is that the discussion of personal religious beliefs by European candidates for office is basically unheard of. Perhaps that's why this portion doesn't come across?

Personally, I think the 'separation of church and state' in America has done more to foster its growth than it has to hold it in check.

On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 8:26 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
Dave,

i just wanted to say, that although I took it with a fairly hefty pinch of salt, I just downzoned and watched your suggested link to Zeitgeist.

THANK YOU!

And although one has to wade through quite a few minutes of long and drawn out arty farty nonsense, esspecially at the beginning, which was a shame, ... WOW... what a movie... Not that i had'nt heard most of it before, but for its well researched and (shock horror) brilliantly written and presented messages.
Take this off list if you prefer, but how was this movie made, and has it been aired? I may be able to get it shown on Norwegian TV, over here... if only as a highly editted form (three episode for example)...
I didnt quite see the relavance of the Religeon section, and the subject has been done to death on Discovery recently, but again, the conciseness and simplicity of how it was presented made an often muddy subject clear!

BUT THE 911 STUFF... OMG... The government funded and planned operation of 911, is a commonly held hypothesis over here, but there was so much in this depiction that i never heard of!!! A few unanswered question too however, can't this be spammed to the American voter somehow???

Thanks again, you saved me from a sofa doze evening...

M


On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 1:58 PM, Dave <prog.music.freak@gmail.com> wrote:
They're confiscating any laptops they feel like confiscating and copying the hard drive for later inspection, the way I heard it. And you may or may not get it back and they may or may not tell you when. It's just part of how they're stripping away our rights in their attempt to have a 'war on terror'.

Hitler did the same thing...burned down his own buildings, called it a terrorist attack, used it to consolidate the country's people against his enemy to further his agenda, stripped the people of their rights and started wars he said were pre-emptive. The more we let them get away with this kind of thing, the more they'll do it, and the more they do it, the more they'll know they can get away with. And now with an election coming up that they know they're likely to lose, they'll start doing all kinds of stuff to insure that their agenda has to be carried out even in their absence. In my opinion, that's why they took the terror alert up the other day...just something to scare people...just a little...but they'll take up another notch or two...before they invade Iran or whatever they feel they need to before they get out of office...

Wanna download something legal, and worthwhile?
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

Sure, it's conspiracy theory stuff, but that doesn't make it incorrect....


On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 7:47 AM, Warren Sirota <wsirota@wsdesigns.com> wrote:
Per, I disagree with you on the semiotics of jihad, but that path just
leads to political arguments better held elsewhere. there are endless
places on the web to "discuss" things like this.

In regards to this laptop inspection thing - i don't know if it's
related to this story, but there was a story circulating on the tech
podcasts a month or two ago about inspectors confiscating laptops with
allegedly pirated music files on them. and, since the customs
authorities (and, indeed, almost everyone) has no way to tell which
files might be pirated and which not, they were confiscating laptops
with *any* music on it. i don't know how true this is, but i would
think twice before taking my laptop into or out of the US.

Warren




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"The Universe seems neither benign nor hostile, merely indifferent to the concerns of such creatures as we." - Carl Sagan, from "Cosmos"



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