From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 00:01:07 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8196C3BF5F; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 00:01:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=P7rE1ytjHZ4A:10 a=Dz07lLuSCtYcD_Qds-gA:9 a=nS90MwNxdYIrNqKm5Ax5Tqc5jQAA:4 a=by2dKgXnggYA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <697303AE-BF86-4C00-8184-A7C8E634E56B@zoekeating.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com From: info at zoekeating Subject: cello for airports...tomorrow at SFO Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:00:57 -0700 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82412 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 00:01:04 +0000 (UTC) hey everyone, i'm playing a 3 hour gig tomorrow at SFO. i'm calling it "cello for airports" as an homage to the best airport music ever written. mine won't be nearly as good, but in addition to my old fan favorites, i do plan on making some appropriate cello ambiance with the goal of making everyone less stressed. the concert is pre-security, in the mezzanine of terminal 1 at the San Francisco Airport. 11am to 2pm Fridays, August 1st, 15th & 29th (can i call this a "residency" at the airport?) besides my fondness for unusual gigs, since i've had so many bad airport experiences, i'm hoping this concert series will even out the karmic balance between me and the TSA. hope they can hear! bestestly, zoe From royalerranddeliveryltdng11@gmail.com Fri Aug 1 04:47:26 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 397 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Fri, 01 Aug 2008 04:47:25 UTC Received: from email1.nuxit.net (email1.nuxit.net [195.114.18.79]) by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix) with SMTP id A7AE93BF55 for ; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 04:47:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 11800 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2008 04:40:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mutu3.nuxit.net) (192.168.3.20) by email1.nuxit.net with SMTP; 1 Aug 2008 04:40:44 -0000 To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Subject: RE: YOUR HONESTY PAYMENT From: DR SAMUEL SODEH. 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From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 04:58:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4073B3BF59; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 04:58:18 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=zNCPf6OFnM+3zNvZWTKY81Vk3BvTfuhJtmcgTJujLBo=; b=nvnWnQfSrPI8GqeavjWXIZoGUJRULKRulnY/sbVqmMMPn5Hj9BRJNRIt4XwIlIl8TJ 5AINholeIDd6SLm89cOGbNouW43e9vXo/Pfz2DUgL/KvbMIoKsjU9LeyvUCVzwc5ET4n VlyCPfsQ+sCvEYfYZmSQAZpwt7GMScwBBH0eE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=RaDePsgYWDdbNmJuDJZ+/Wf+kzZ7kwctvQXuayPNkWy7n6guFjdnDi1bGbKeFfKvx5 a0CT76+byLlXpDHDusfqYwhMf+ay1EvP+yHCvdJTu8vKMuBOwsHcTH+2OpMcDC7sB330 i+tv1JkP/NxGq+ZsoRHD4Nx6zSuq4uC7w+B4s= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 00:58:17 -0400 From: "Aaron Austin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Echoplex Digital Pro Plus In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0807311655k32e95871wc9a13ba157f6fa7d@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2090_3653607.1217566697055" References: <9ab0c76f0807311655k32e95871wc9a13ba157f6fa7d@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82413 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 04:58:18 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_2090_3653607.1217566697055 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Will This pedal work you guys and eliminate my dust problem??? http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Rolls-MP128-MIDI-Buddy-Pedal?sku=701180 On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:55 PM, mark francombe wrote: > The ubiquitous Behringer FCB1010 to name but one... Its cheap, but maybe if > it had an understandable manual it would cost alot more! Buy one and join a > forum! It cant do much without anguish, but it controls the edp just fine.. > thank you very much! > > .m.x > > On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 11:26 PM, Aaron Austin wrote: > >> Are there alternate foot controllers for the edp because the one it comes >> with constantly gets dirt and dust and NEVER WORKS PROPERLY IT SUCKS !!!! >> > > > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > www.looop.no > ------=_Part_2090_3653607.1217566697055 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Will This pedal work you guys and eliminate my dust problem???

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Rolls-MP128-MIDI-Buddy-Pedal?sku=701180

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:55 PM, mark francombe <mark@markfrancombe.com> wrote:
The ubiquitous Behringer FCB1010 to name but one... Its cheap, but maybe if it had an understandable manual it would cost alot more! Buy one and join a forum! It cant do much without anguish, but it controls the edp just fine.. thank you very much!

.m.x

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 11:26 PM, Aaron Austin <aaronaustin88@gmail.com> wrote:
Are there alternate foot controllers for the edp because the one it comes with constantly gets dirt and dust and NEVER WORKS PROPERLY IT SUCKS !!!! 



--
www.markfrancombe.com
www.looop.no

------=_Part_2090_3653607.1217566697055-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 05:24:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2D16B3BF5A; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 05:24:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=EhMOCcR9keXjkQCMlfMiHlh7sSnKyO3M4d7Sh1r6BZ0=; b=oePvAFEX+6VRW7jyqh/Y4e2/F+LacBilLwae3BUhpZHvGX4fHpjg+hRk+umSuIgsIG vb9ycnUSzlXIQqBHKGdqn1/+S7C3c8qE3hIYlKMh/F0wMEy9Hyb6xsMOS+5I1QguxnPA vkukPUoaqqkKHoPR54OMUmNdFxhnm7R9zy1Rc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=khh0oZg7uyX9owSJO0K8Xu5ZEZpUEOcbu95kx6pp1Qd6XJnUGSjuAmgWzeBt3BPA5m 1QlsFm/ld5eLBIt7/CjoLnZkDw0HS/dew1Syw8zo0LhMfeqTANjsc0CsG39f3mef3uov UW1fsPhi5iI04fraNkLdDsGqIZ7F3WB1WyTUo= Message-ID: Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 22:24:02 -0700 From: "Travis Hartnett" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Echoplex Digital Pro Plus In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2402_11853982.1217568242348" References: <9ab0c76f0807311655k32e95871wc9a13ba157f6fa7d@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82414 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 05:24:03 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_2402_11853982.1217568242348 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline The MIDI Buddy can't send the right sort of MIDI commands to control an EDP. The Behringer can. On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 9:58 PM, Aaron Austin wrote: > Will This pedal work you guys and eliminate my dust problem??? > > > http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Rolls-MP128-MIDI-Buddy-Pedal?sku=701180 > > > ------=_Part_2402_11853982.1217568242348 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
The MIDI Buddy can't send the right sort of MIDI commands to control an EDP.  The Behringer can.

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 9:58 PM, Aaron Austin <aaronaustin88@gmail.com> wrote:
Will This pedal work you guys and eliminate my dust problem???

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Rolls-MP128-MIDI-Buddy-Pedal?sku=701180



------=_Part_2402_11853982.1217568242348-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 06:18:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9933E3BF62; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 06:18:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 52101490/mk-filter-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.231.202 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.231.202 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhQCAE1GkkhPTufK/2dsb2JhbAAIinUjpTaDUQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,290,1215385200"; d="scan'208";a="52101490" Message-ID: <4892AAA7.90701@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 07:18:15 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Echoplex Digital Pro Plus References: <9ab0c76f0807311655k32e95871wc9a13ba157f6fa7d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0807311655k32e95871wc9a13ba157f6fa7d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82415 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 06:18:09 +0000 (UTC) Be careful, to work the EDP you need a a footcontroller with switches that either a) send Midi-On/Off b) send CC with the ability to send a second CC on release of the switch Mark's suggestion of the FCB1010 is what most use, it's cheap, but sturdily built (and the manual's ok if you have plenty of patience ;-) There's also a Roland device that some people use (....anybody here???) Don't try the Yamaha MFC ....too much delay in sending commands. andy butler mark francombe wrote: > The ubiquitous Behringer FCB1010 to name but one... Its cheap, but maybe > if it had an understandable manual it would cost alot more! Buy one and > join a forum! It cant do much without anguish, but it controls the edp > just fine.. thank you very much! > > .m.x > > On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 11:26 PM, Aaron Austin > wrote: > > Are there alternate foot controllers for the edp because the one it > comes with constantly gets dirt and dust and NEVER WORKS PROPERLY IT > SUCKS !!!! > > > > > -- > www.markfrancombe.com > www.looop.no From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 06:33:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2576F3BF50; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 06:33:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <000e01c8f3a0$85edf2e0$5901a8c0@bobdell> From: "Bob Amstadt" To: References: <9ab0c76f0807311655k32e95871wc9a13ba157f6fa7d@mail.gmail.com> <4892AAA7.90701@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: MIDI foot controllers (was: Echoplex Digital Pro Plus) Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 23:33:34 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82416 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 06:33:37 +0000 (UTC) The Gordius Little Giant is amazingly programmable. I haven't tried to use it with an EDP, but it is an amazing device and much smaller than the FCB1010. If you want to build your own MIDI controller, there is excellent information here: http://www.ucapps.de/ Bob Amstadt From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 07:46:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E35AE3BF63; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 07:46:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 08:46:04 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Re: Echoplex Digital Pro Plus MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 217.68.49.65 X-DCC--Metrics: hel; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82417 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 07:46:06 +0000 (UTC) > There's also a Roland device that some people use (....anybody here???)= Yep, the older FC-2000 and the latest model is the FC-300. Each pedal can= be programmed as follows: - Type of midi message: CC but you can also send other type of midi data - Range: This sets the range for values that are transmitted (minimum + m= aximum value) - Mode: * Latch =3D The ON and OFF will alternate each time you press the pedal * Momentary =3D The value will be ON while you press the pedal, and OFF w= hen you release the pedal. - Amp control jack 1 + 2 Btw: I haven't used it with an EDP ;) --- Sjaak http://www.livelooping.be/ http://www.overgaauw.be/ http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 07:59:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BB7A33BF69; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 07:59:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:mime-version:content-type:x-google-sender-auth; bh=s0sIO+8c6xatUqWYzWfVjgm91aGSbKEbdF9Y+39d7Fc=; b=jZlttS3LixKBuf8KDvUsc5tz7/8rFKqBBEwPA6J7YiKoR3SoGClfzN6GnM4vj48Ca3 gDazcplBRyyQpDw1bNbd447TKt1+nv7IcXRI7FGBc5LxSFBqawKWuH1vi57GyzkIXt0F hroWFIZG4wuQtim5JdsJQ9KDgSNTOMEuyKegI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :x-google-sender-auth; b=ftqFwQaiFEv2jXkMpHSNnT1rSUajG3g6s/zsH9keSl6XhpDurJMRLFOn/CzyycO+Wt 66lD5F+JXg11JgDyUb1LZCEjLd5CzWTnHcnUkwWDXDXDIWME/lLlx/+AxbKFsejHAI5A pa+uIpi+DlUPG8nsTxwHjO7AXc1CyoE68yS1k= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0808010059vcc304e0p2dabba233539763c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:59:20 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Echoplex Digital Pro Plus + Behringer pedal...zee final word... I sink not Mr Bond.. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1783_16404561.1217577560698" X-Google-Sender-Auth: 7e172c53b04eba9f Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82418 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 07:59:22 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_1783_16404561.1217577560698 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline I'll just third my own vote for the Behringer. There has been ALOT of discussion about it (and other progamable pedals) on this list. Everyone complains about the Behringer, (it IS too big... its IS a little clunky to program - but actually pretty easy when you "geddit" - the hard bit is always trawling through manuals finding the right numbers... OH... for Looperlative learn functionality(Im trying to justify the price of an L here... if I saved all that time spent programming a footpedal, and I cost 1000 kroners an hour, then how much money would i save buying a Looperlative... is how my argument is running at the moment... quite convincing, but I still don't have the cash!!!)) Anyway... serious digression... The other major gripe being the midi channel thing.. if only you could set a midi channel for every switch. However... Did you see the price??? Did you see the price of all other foot-controllers... are you a millionaire? Do you like spending money on things that dont ACTUALLY make a noise? Did you see the price? You are aware that they are only switches arent you? Did you see the price? Why would you spend more when you can spend THIS amount? Is it the BEHRINGER thing (hate the company for ripping off Mackie or some such malarky) well remember this... They also make the FCB1010 Foot controller, a wonderful and did I mention cheap, innovative, high quality product! Sturdier than a "Black box Flight Recorder".. Eight out of Ten Loopers, when asked to state a preference, said that they used the BEHRINGER FCB1010, not only does it taste better, but it washes whiter too! mark. PS. When can I expect the cheque Uli ??? On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 8:18 AM, andy butler wrote: > Be careful, > to work the EDP you need a a footcontroller with switches that either > > a) send Midi-On/Off > b) send CC with the ability to send a second CC on release of the switch > > Mark's suggestion of the FCB1010 is what most use, it's cheap, but > sturdily built (and the manual's ok if you have plenty of patience ;-) > > There's also a Roland device that some people use (....anybody here???) > > Don't try the Yamaha MFC ....too much delay in sending commands. > > andy butler > > mark francombe wrote: > >> The ubiquitous Behringer FCB1010 to name but one... Its cheap, but maybe >> if it had an understandable manual it would cost alot more! Buy one and join >> a forum! It cant do much without anguish, but it controls the edp just >> fine.. thank you very much! >> >> .m.x >> >> On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 11:26 PM, Aaron Austin > aaronaustin88@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Are there alternate foot controllers for the edp because the one it >> comes with constantly gets dirt and dust and NEVER WORKS PROPERLY IT >> SUCKS !!!! >> >> >> >> -- >> www.markfrancombe.com >> www.looop.no >> > > -- www.markfrancombe.com www.looop.no ------=_Part_1783_16404561.1217577560698 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
I'll just third my own vote for the Behringer. There has been ALOT of discussion about it (and other progamable pedals) on this list. Everyone complains about the Behringer, (it IS too big... its IS a little clunky to program - but actually pretty easy when you "geddit" - the hard bit is always trawling through manuals finding the right numbers... OH... for Looperlative learn functionality(Im trying to justify the price of an L here... if I saved all that time spent programming a footpedal, and I cost 1000 kroners an hour, then how much money would i save buying a Looperlative... is how my argument is running at the moment... quite convincing, but I still don't have the cash!!!)) Anyway... serious digression... The other major gripe being the midi channel thing.. if only you could set a midi channel for every switch.

However... Did you see the price??? Did you see the price of all other foot-controllers... are you a millionaire? Do you like spending money on things that dont ACTUALLY make a noise? Did you see the price? You are aware that they are only switches arent you? Did you see the price? Why would you spend more when you can spend THIS amount? Is it the BEHRINGER  thing (hate the company for ripping off Mackie or some such malarky) well remember this... They also make the FCB1010 Foot controller,  a wonderful and did I mention cheap, innovative, high quality product! Sturdier than a "Black box Flight Recorder".. Eight out of Ten Loopers, when asked to state a preference, said that they used the BEHRINGER FCB1010, not only does it taste better, but it washes whiter too!

mark.


PS. When can I expect the cheque Uli ???



On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 8:18 AM, andy butler <akbutler@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
Be careful,
to work the EDP you need a a footcontroller with switches that either

a) send Midi-On/Off
b) send CC with the ability to send a second CC on release of the switch

Mark's suggestion of the FCB1010 is what most use, it's cheap, but
sturdily built (and the manual's ok if you have plenty of patience ;-)

There's also a Roland device that some people use (....anybody here???)

Don't try the Yamaha MFC ....too much delay in sending commands.

andy butler

mark francombe wrote:
The ubiquitous Behringer FCB1010 to name but one... Its cheap, but maybe if it had an understandable manual it would cost alot more! Buy one and join a forum! It cant do much without anguish, but it controls the edp just fine.. thank you very much!

.m.x

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 11:26 PM, Aaron Austin <aaronaustin88@gmail.com <mailto:aaronaustin88@gmail.com>> wrote:

   Are there alternate foot controllers for the edp because the one it
   comes with constantly gets dirt and dust and NEVER WORKS PROPERLY IT
   SUCKS !!!!



--
www.markfrancombe.com <http://www.markfrancombe.com>
www.looop.no <http://www.looop.no>




--
www.markfrancombe.com
www.looop.no
------=_Part_1783_16404561.1217577560698-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 08:50:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D4F423BF6D; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 08:50:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=FtA+MemPG3CAVk6lXoFUMyTslG2tqaTdRDd99aTC6CQuk6GqOFXUTdoITfIDROMX7EDB1r2MMjYQ6o+/UwyCrecTdQQaZ82tS2H3jmgLCLrjMzbioMdUgJ16lTMPi1rMIWqWDa40BA1JbS33uMHqteiQGlgaHWlou9vv3joGURY=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 01:50:07 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re:alternate foot controllers for the Echoplex Digital Pro Plus To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <4892AAA7.90701@tiscali.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <925327.2607.qm@web38608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82419 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 08:50:09 +0000 (UTC) Ive heard good things about this one http://www.roland.com/products/en/FC-300/index.html Sjaak from this list can probably answer a lot of your questions here is his web http://euroloopfest.com/sjaak/gear.htm cheers Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Thu, 7/31/08, andy butler wrote: > From: andy butler > Subject: Re: Echoplex Digital Pro Plus > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Thursday, July 31, 2008, 11:18 PM > Be careful, > to work the EDP you need a a footcontroller > with switches that either > > a) send Midi-On/Off > b) send CC with the ability to send a second CC on release > of the switch > > Mark's suggestion of the FCB1010 is what most use, > it's cheap, but > sturdily built (and the manual's ok if you have plenty > of patience ;-) > > There's also a Roland device that some people use > (....anybody here???) > > Don't try the Yamaha MFC ....too much delay in sending > commands. > > andy butler > > mark francombe wrote: > > The ubiquitous Behringer FCB1010 to name but one... > Its cheap, but maybe > > if it had an understandable manual it would cost alot > more! Buy one and > > join a forum! It cant do much without anguish, but it > controls the edp > > just fine.. thank you very much! > > > > .m.x > > > > On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 11:26 PM, Aaron Austin > > > wrote: > > > > Are there alternate foot controllers for the edp > because the one it > > comes with constantly gets dirt and dust and NEVER > WORKS PROPERLY IT > > SUCKS !!!! > > > > > > > > > > -- > > www.markfrancombe.com > > > www.looop.no From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 09:03:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 21AB83BF72; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:03:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :content-disposition; bh=80FTAdhv4cpcEsIDg45NjCCimj0kivp8+yCjXVoXCQY=; b=YG0RMCWodq/TaVowmEyInCnu0VIffd6JvZGe52C4PH1KQfvlfC9yEW+4l87/PqtUqL cAEtpYQzBGSz8XwIltR3ZfYGcFXtyvxL9CHmsKHEL21pM26fJbz17HxzCHPbjap8Su2E gL5yKOJxvl6Jwo+9A8o+pVBAOUosBzC+SO/O8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=gSjJJa0TfQ/Xn+J8EWp9fcmlKfgaeJmdApTsbfpt0bfqwygEKj21LuQcZ7wm73tBWo 8FaIvOllkYTGAgrvCrQPQ+u7pYNMW04EObpCghV51ty3xqD83lj0noZv3ic7CPwIUkHz 3a/W95ctmoAeDAlzKd3etJ4fMZAzQGWl8XlkE= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808010203id258df6k8c59c2c67abecf6@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:03:33 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: loopers-delight Subject: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82420 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:03:34 +0000 (UTC) Hi Friends, I've spotted some threads on foot controllers recently. And since I just recently posted about my research for a smaller ctrl setup I'd just like to add now that I have given up on that; my vision of having just one pedal and changing its functionality by additional hand control (laptop keys, MIDI hand button pad etc). The simplest and coolest solution I tried was a one-button glass mouse, from Apple, gaffer taped to the stage floor so you can place the mouse cursor with touch control on the laptop pad and simply tap the floor mouse with a foot at the correct timing. (I had the same wish for the EDP many years ago, using its programs to set different functionality setups for a given set of floor buttons) The direct reason I gave up on all this is that when I finally plugged in my FCB yesterday, I had such a kick simply by not having to plan my playing much in advance. Also by playing both the looper and the instrument at the same time. What blast that was - being able to decide on the spot where to go on the next downbeat! An example: I tend to work a lot with pitch. In loopers I constantly work the rate/speed to create melodies "in the loop" or just chord changes to accompany melody lines I play on top. I had noticed that there are only about a dozen "chord vamps" I usually improvise with in different combinations, so I thought I could pre program those changes to lift off the burden of tap dancing over the floor pedals. How wrong I was! It really IS not the same thing having a preprogrammed looper action sequence thrown at you as if you should play the looper with feet (for the very same action sequence) while you play an instrument by hand. So I was wrong, but I had some fun finding out about that. I'm finding the FCB pedal good enough for what I regard an optimal looping setup: Instant access to some few but powerful actions. Playable. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 09:23:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 14A173BF70; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:23:21 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=7pyfTKjyoxuGqu8Hf/N+J1m4Hc/nDyHFB8aREEVwPoA=; b=t9xPZSNb+8ieJndJss9uo+ZorbJ2M/jVKDm+ZJZRAuJjbZ5RrjSRmkb64MFicv7CaB ASUu4VVhth6athww5F5E4k938NfocO7QOnYoDqDcEqVdFEu3zJIdK+QEsp7TrHHAI4aK pkydDAwUE52TB+2SYZGOTmmDWzTIhaVpO6nSM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=YJ1hOdguszRA7ffOyBXI9DBdj+THimfKj1ybneD6H7vzHkotWgyciD09nSWZZAPXSV x2Wp5yj9xpBWnRgePoDHJRl+dhFeZJ0+krd9y8L/RcnPJRpHvW4M0uNHaSITa4HiIHgY egTdzdGK5EtI7l22dEFUKl5QXL3MYZi/oM6II= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:23:20 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808010203id258df6k8c59c2c67abecf6@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2869_17265525.1217582600073" References: <66f9cc1e0808010203id258df6k8c59c2c67abecf6@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82421 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:23:21 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_2869_17265525.1217582600073 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline 2008/8/1 Per Boysen oh my poor little (per)boy... that's why mamita told you not to have rides from stranges .... raul. So I was wrong, but I had some fun finding out about that. > > I'm finding the FCB pedal good enough for what I regard an optimal > looping setup: > Instant access to some few but powerful actions. Playable. > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_2869_17265525.1217582600073 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline


2008/8/1 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>

oh my poor little (per)boy... that's why mamita told you not to have rides from stranges ....

raul.


So I was wrong, but I had some fun finding out about that.

I'm finding the FCB pedal good enough for what I regard an optimal
looping setup:
Instant access to some few but powerful actions. Playable.

--
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (international)
www.myspace.com/perboysen




--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
------=_Part_2869_17265525.1217582600073-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 09:28:13 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1DDB03BF75; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:28:12 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=PzaFnCc/AOGdAdxGWXy2YFNGw6WJI0zmBr6embBqvCU=; b=O6r+rbWVE/rSnSSMW/OxVL7oZ1iXFkMA5N8Ca68Ki4pahHZaR6Os7WJKcGfW/dVTn0 DuA/tKRLl8AQpHUuX+qxR4HcX3HIsWQW6WUN0e3dEy89IQe3jSS8flBfgJfR7W1zbUlr 1xwiTgIBDsv+BNcLxaCiBI/VzsaKVANvsKhag= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=gDKV9GwHsqRUjPNV99D8FN6qYx+nevsgQ2HR3k0WqZetM5i2PYlCtdF4sOutGnYzCh eltxlQl/tthCk2XfnNBIVydWbobC1XM4FPd3Tle7XN0tfY/+b9s1TM4NUFOsrqDzHhPt Bib4IFAeso28f3UslijWgmEIbgwZ4+1tFJhtQ= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:28:11 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808010203id258df6k8c59c2c67abecf6@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2919_10652925.1217582891731" References: <66f9cc1e0808010203id258df6k8c59c2c67abecf6@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82422 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:28:12 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_2919_10652925.1217582891731 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ... and now! ... run away from ghostly scripts in the dark !! 2008/8/1 Per Boysen > Hi Friends, > > I've spotted some threads on foot controllers recently. And since I > just recently posted about my research for a smaller ctrl setup I'd > just like to add now that I have given up on that; my vision of having > just one pedal and changing its functionality by additional hand > control (laptop keys, MIDI hand button pad etc). The simplest and > coolest solution I tried was a one-button glass mouse, from Apple, > gaffer taped to the stage floor so you can place the mouse cursor with > touch control on the laptop pad and simply tap the floor mouse with a > foot at the correct timing. (I had the same wish for the EDP many > years ago, using its programs to set different functionality setups > for a given set of floor buttons) > > The direct reason I gave up on all this is that when I finally plugged > in my FCB yesterday, I had such a kick simply by not having to plan my > playing much in advance. Also by playing both the looper and the > instrument at the same time. What blast that was - being able to > decide on the spot where to go on the next downbeat! An example: I > tend to work a lot with pitch. In loopers I constantly work the > rate/speed to create melodies "in the loop" or just chord changes to > accompany melody lines I play on top. I had noticed that there are > only about a dozen "chord vamps" I usually improvise with in different > combinations, so I thought I could pre program those changes to lift > off the burden of tap dancing over the floor pedals. How wrong I was! > It really IS not the same thing having a preprogrammed looper action > sequence thrown at you as if you should play the looper with feet (for > the very same action sequence) while you play an instrument by hand. > So I was wrong, but I had some fun finding out about that. > > I'm finding the FCB pedal good enough for what I regard an optimal > looping setup: > Instant access to some few but powerful actions. Playable. > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_2919_10652925.1217582891731 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
... and now! ... run away from ghostly scripts in the dark !!

2008/8/1 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>
Hi Friends,

I've spotted some threads on foot controllers recently. And since I
just recently posted about my research for a smaller ctrl setup I'd
just like to add now that I have given up on that; my vision of having
just one pedal and changing its functionality by additional hand
control (laptop keys, MIDI hand button pad etc). The simplest and
coolest solution I tried was a one-button glass mouse, from Apple,
gaffer taped to the stage floor so you can place the mouse cursor with
touch control on the laptop pad and simply tap the floor mouse with a
foot at the correct timing. (I had the same wish for the EDP many
years ago, using its programs to set different functionality setups
for a given set of floor buttons)

The direct reason I gave up on all this is that when I finally plugged
in my FCB yesterday, I had such a kick simply by not having to plan my
playing much in advance. Also by playing both the looper and the
instrument at the same time. What blast that was - being able to
decide on the spot where to go on the next downbeat! An example: I
tend to work a lot with pitch. In loopers I constantly work the
rate/speed to create melodies "in the loop" or just chord changes to
accompany melody lines I play on top. I had noticed that there are
only about a dozen "chord vamps" I usually improvise with in different
combinations, so I thought I could pre program those changes to lift
off the burden of tap dancing over the floor pedals. How wrong I was!
It really IS not the same thing having a preprogrammed looper action
sequence thrown at you as if you should play the looper with feet (for
the very same action sequence) while you play an instrument by hand.
So I was wrong, but I had some fun finding out about that.

I'm finding the FCB pedal good enough for what I regard an optimal
looping setup:
Instant access to some few but powerful actions. Playable.

--
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (international)
www.myspace.com/perboysen




--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
------=_Part_2919_10652925.1217582891731-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 09:38:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4C6CE3BF6E; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:38:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=I11c7G+vqo1GvQh/2M1OpJbch4AdBYr1Eqg9ycU0SRW8Xs3yekTZQkfMDfHUcUp89xXFX/VUv6T7FhyKBibHsJ18wC/8ch2B7MUurVlYTC2c/TdbAWPj770HrZuruNEiS22SEo1N/6ix40GbN6lWLYorLWpN6AqGu8C1CeFIVLE=; X-YMail-OSG: qJrteg4VM1luwu5fiHv1f3uBDyZ2INwaU8w4P6LsI4npIe2xpeft_Xwfu1pk9d6au6KFP5Q9VMnYD9PU_R9IIg3znmkYTCTuQClXdaW3Y5yaKAjcaNvKq7xvIFg- Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:38:02 +0100 (BST) From: Richard Graham Subject: Re: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808010203id258df6k8c59c2c67abecf6@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1453646798-1217583482=:18015" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <402592.18015.qm@web86107.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <2_zfXC.A.6yF.8ltkIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82423 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:38:04 +0000 (UTC) --0-1453646798-1217583482=:18015 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Per, A very insightful post! Been thinking of buying a FCB floorboard for my EDP for a while now, and I think I will. A lot can be said for having access to additional parameters, especially changing between Insert and Multiply functions. I assume this is possible? Cheers, Ricky Per Boysen wrote: Hi Friends, I've spotted some threads on foot controllers recently. And since I just recently posted about my research for a smaller ctrl setup I'd just like to add now that I have given up on that; my vision of having just one pedal and changing its functionality by additional hand control (laptop keys, MIDI hand button pad etc). The simplest and coolest solution I tried was a one-button glass mouse, from Apple, gaffer taped to the stage floor so you can place the mouse cursor with touch control on the laptop pad and simply tap the floor mouse with a foot at the correct timing. (I had the same wish for the EDP many years ago, using its programs to set different functionality setups for a given set of floor buttons) The direct reason I gave up on all this is that when I finally plugged in my FCB yesterday, I had such a kick simply by not having to plan my playing much in advance. Also by playing both the looper and the instrument at the same time. What blast that was - being able to decide on the spot where to go on the next downbeat! An example: I tend to work a lot with pitch. In loopers I constantly work the rate/speed to create melodies "in the loop" or just chord changes to accompany melody lines I play on top. I had noticed that there are only about a dozen "chord vamps" I usually improvise with in different combinations, so I thought I could pre program those changes to lift off the burden of tap dancing over the floor pedals. How wrong I was! It really IS not the same thing having a preprogrammed looper action sequence thrown at you as if you should play the looper with feet (for the very same action sequence) while you play an instrument by hand. So I was wrong, but I had some fun finding out about that. I'm finding the FCB pedal good enough for what I regard an optimal looping setup: Instant access to some few but powerful actions. Playable. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen --0-1453646798-1217583482=:18015 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hi Per,
 
A very insightful post! Been thinking of buying a FCB floorboard for my EDP for a while now, and I think I will. A lot can be said for having access to additional parameters, especially changing between Insert and Multiply functions. I assume this is possible?
 
Cheers,
 
Ricky

Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Friends,

I've spotted some threads on foot controllers recently. And since I
just recently posted about my research for a smaller ctrl setup I'd
just like to add now that I have given up on that; my vision of having
just one pedal and changing its functionality by additional hand
control (laptop keys, MIDI hand button pad etc). The simplest and
coolest solution I tried was a one-button glass mouse, from Apple,
gaffer taped to the stage floor so you can place the mouse cursor with
touch control on the laptop pad and simply tap the floor mouse with a
foot at the correct timing. (I had the same wish for the EDP many
years ago, using its programs to set different functionality setups
for a given set of floor buttons)

The direct reason I gave up on all this is that when I finally plugged
in my FCB yesterday, I had such a kick simply by not having to plan my
playing much in advance. Also by playing both the looper and the
instrument at the same time. What blast that was - being able to
decide on the spot where to go on the next downbeat! An example: I
tend to work a lot with pitch. In loopers I constantly work the
rate/speed to create melodies "in the loop" or just chord changes to
accompany melody lines I play on top. I had noticed that there are
only about a dozen "chord vamps" I usually improvise with in different
combinations, so I thought I could pre program those changes to lift
off the burden of tap dancing over the floor pedals. How wrong I was!
It really IS not the same thing having a preprogrammed looper action
sequence thrown at you as if you should play the looper with feet (for
the very same action sequence) while you play an instrument by hand.
So I was wrong, but I had some fun finding out about that.

I'm finding the FCB pedal good enough for what I regard an optimal
looping setup:
Instant access to some few but powerful actions. Playable.

--
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (international)
www.myspace.com/perboysen


--0-1453646798-1217583482=:18015-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 09:40:20 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B2D3E3BF6C; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:40:20 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=XQJa+8kDRRentiLRNGLGKYXirIIQBeZed81/YN1PV9U=; b=qP+T+1jbjUTg0W5mLCOUTrWQQ6Zt2zBmQ6gOPx+jbw46fECtDWJnBTiO6zf/1dwzxl i7isUOcgeLs1gIML6m+8uP2hxbu8tdYB3QsIvtmBY6+4nGPnw3WAwGffTRkMYBxzvi8F JLB18+PdWOX+4OnTZTV2m7KFgE+l64GTD4MyY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=f1xZpMaDdEL3sZqjRXTgHKLPqrPGf1Uxj0/Wm6tne/FS55M1Mhz0L3+gcjQseuaMCk hrkU9rQdniZ5w9fUjo8QWDD6iz23JrKJcDHlvxFITh2A4OS+4PLjYNAaKPwdGXQWuDPs YFogGGeefC+SheC3F/aleIp4/HAb5pbAdyXzA= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:40:19 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New Chinapainting release - Night Blooming Cereus In-Reply-To: <003701c8f351$c66b23f0$4101a8c0@STUDIO1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3014_18041260.1217583619876" References: <004701c8f305$4eca83a0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> <4891C340.1090305@mhorse.com> <66f9cc1e0807311337v5cb41f0fg7bbc106bf1786dc4@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60807311342v270eb8d2lbf724acae229627f@mail.gmail.com> <003701c8f351$c66b23f0$4101a8c0@STUDIO1> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82424 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:40:20 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_3014_18041260.1217583619876 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline my vote for the same title track. good inspiration and execution. raul. 2008/7/31 Ricky Graham > Enjoyed the clips also! > > Good work. > > Ricky > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Jim Goodin > *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > *Sent:* Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:42 PM > *Subject:* Re: New Chinapainting release - Night Blooming Cereus > > Per thanks so much man, we're very jazzed about this record. Appreciate > you taking time to give an electronic spin. > > Best > > Jim > > On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Per Boysen wrote: > >> >> >> On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Daryl Shawn wrote: >> >>> >>> http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com/music.htm >>> >> >> >> Hey, China guys - this is good! Some really beautiful moments in those >> clips. >> >> -- >> Greetings from Sweden >> >> Per Boysen >> www.boysen.se (Swedish) >> www.looproom.com (international) >> www.myspace.com/perboysen >> >> > > > -- > The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com > MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic > Chinapainting - > http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com > Chinapainting on My Space - > http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com > The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - > http://www.woodandwiremusic.com > Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull > Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel > Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com > > ------------------------------ > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.526 / Virus Database: 270.5.8/1582 - Release Date: 30/07/2008 > 18:37 > > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_3014_18041260.1217583619876 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
my vote for the same title track. 
good inspiration and execution. 

raul.

2008/7/31 Ricky Graham <rock.guitar.guru@btinternet.com>
Enjoyed the clips also!
 
Good work.
 
Ricky
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Goodin
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: New Chinapainting release - Night Blooming Cereus

Per thanks so much man, we're very jazzed about this record.  Appreciate you taking time to give an electronic spin.
 
Best
 
Jim

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:


On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Daryl Shawn <highhorse@mhorse.com> wrote:

http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com/music.htm


Hey, China guys - this is good! Some really beautiful moments in those clips.

--
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (international)
www.myspace.com/perboysen




--
The Acoustic World Guitar of Jim Goodin - http://www.jimgoodinmusic.com
MySpace (solo) - http://www.myspace.com/jimgoodinmusic
Chinapainting -
http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com
Chinapainting on My Space -
http://www.myspace.com/chinapaintingmusic.com
The Jim Goodin label and home for 7 other creative souls - http://www.woodandwiremusic.com
Jim Goodin uses GHS Strings - http://www.ghsstrings.com and Seagull Guitars - http://www.seagullguitars.com, Jim Goodin is published by Mel Bay Publications, Inc. - http://www.melbay.com

No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG.
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--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
------=_Part_3014_18041260.1217583619876-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 09:41:42 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B3B7B3BF74; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:41:42 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=mfdr9HjHEpbZhzrGvbFh3jcgXLIgMSFW8VpPjvPlP2A=; b=Fku9ikh22MkeyitV5EwDqMJkBbf9A3sMuDYR5aCEe95kdUD07GFmdYhEcJxFHTnT// y6dtZliSn2nl9ADILctPMxppXCltULyIJFgfAIkU9tQtsjm/3JPWH/E7iGzREn41H39/ JX1JyLzGJvi7sHwLUZifiIvKHqT/rtor2QIYw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=o2bFl77gQHCAPCqra6h+8q12jB9IO+LMiwWiL+fG6LesJcqu34wsODrSH7/vKvf430 pIQ0FkSTymWq/6ZTCbkvREhrxhDB89HrNaMPJZP1zy8TvMb2dxBDmiQxdMG76y4hS517 BOLCMK+9mUZpUwdCr0+jBGg1yEyndENgoDiQY= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808010241v6eace478kff1989ca367a0a6a@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:41:41 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <66f9cc1e0808010203id258df6k8c59c2c67abecf6@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: <0Hd7YC.A.vAG.WptkIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82425 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:41:42 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Raul Bonell wrote: > ... and now! ... run away from ghostly scripts in the dark !! Hmm... please don't misinterpret my last post. "A few powerful and instantly playable" foot control buttons is just my physical tool for reaching open horizons and the infinitely expandable looping universe brought about by user custom scripting and other dark disciplines. I just want to start the music in my heart, as opposed to acting along technically pre defined routs. What I'm saying is that settling with a tool-set that you manage to master does indeed free your ass! And we all know that then your mind will follow - here in glorious musical creativity. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 09:45:56 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 447CE3BF79; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:45:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=/JL+duoABR7sbTb7Yo8vccTe45CKTDEWjg+SnDIyR2s=; b=p/3MToUJGv8l636Yng1C3S8CbpqWaBOTRoyN7nRvOYbF1S+zpJc4K8LlnW7C0EPiT7 Wyb/N6K9z04pkG1uaZadbryA+TxWGmWFz1T4T40yy0JvkJNra1fmII5/KOUw54INq8IU EHjvUGSeGKbcocyPdCSTW3lQ07ek5N+Kae9dw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=BtXpP9EdCBkjWRG0UPq6S6SuFHsCwRIdbkf//XMgrb8n6dImj2vN3LIelKOUlOtEHq H+Tw/NDKhTT38ahWm1ziMq0cDqoY3iV1gklf7B7B1j4w/LtwyKYUkcBfV0RhRI/vdtJj W4OEhPOWNpsCyHAPE3qs3gcF9mb0+guKu5GEg= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:45:55 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808010241v6eace478kff1989ca367a0a6a@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3089_9080384.1217583955458" References: <66f9cc1e0808010203id258df6k8c59c2c67abecf6@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808010241v6eace478kff1989ca367a0a6a@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82426 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:45:56 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_3089_9080384.1217583955458 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline 2008/8/1 Per Boysen What I'm saying is that settling with a tool-set that you manage to > master does indeed free your ass! And we all know that then your mind > will follow - here in glorious musical creativity. > I really like this P mode ! Gloorioooous !! -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_3089_9080384.1217583955458 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline


2008/8/1 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>


What I'm saying is that settling with a tool-set that you manage to
master does indeed free your ass! And we all know that then your mind
will follow - here in glorious musical creativity.


 
I really like this P mode !
Gloorioooous !!



--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
------=_Part_3089_9080384.1217583955458-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 09:48:31 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 681CD3BF78; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:48:31 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=QT1krM9r7cJZnPImoopBFnciQJmXD+5AU2f42EpP3Ps=; b=wy2qGHM700TXu/GRDTTh0gOCmJRR2wsWktKdumFyH3/y0pVcADowGp8GF6BpNRXy0x oVb6ed1LGbk4xT1YkeJ6fkEHm8B4H6R+Qwvr9FNcVpN56cLbObPza+vW0yYe8WMVlPVO suy0T1o2PE+BxAWlaR1W1FvtWC5wptmW35PW8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=m3MXnDBy4SMcjCsI5FTEiCTY6ApO+SaDrGtwqAqFr01EUbx62Jx0Su8G5J6fuFvHdM h2xwNWARKmcCrZqrBP3onh02S1W6nowy86tZgue3WaIxgoEh//34FkhglzsdVsXtGKPM c3EsXbyMpfGXkrqLI2T0VzCCiCinWMRf1pQVs= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808010248i3beadb47iac96a471df619706@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:48:30 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! In-Reply-To: <402592.18015.qm@web86107.mail.ird.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <66f9cc1e0808010203id258df6k8c59c2c67abecf6@mail.gmail.com> <402592.18015.qm@web86107.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82427 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:48:31 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Richard Graham wrote: > Hi Per, > > A very insightful post! Been thinking of buying a FCB floorboard for my EDP > for a while now, and I think I will. A lot can be said for having access to > additional parameters, especially changing between Insert and Multiply > functions. I assume this is possible? Hi Ricky, I guess your assumption is correct, but you can easily check out in the manual: http://www.gibson.com/Files/Downloads/PDFs/Gibson/EchoplexPlusManual12.pdf -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 09:50:45 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 55CC83BF73; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:50:45 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=25pA7j/pWUNzgmduyVVgWZUOYjIlhg5ZtaRndRwhZsw=; b=Rv2UnbA/jXcQt87zEAdh0RqhRbMHwpEp3b6b9YhvG9HqJgy5eOVPa16HBCL7xJhbqk uD1T8ovwSQKcvIrorTasw+y5H2OnHfvvFAEUF5jEur/Q59Gyr4rKhKgaFu6ikWZ9ruQe F+2oR5ud759cXbvXOLb9AeH3blbVo6bQzHHFY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=tRlfpdyzAF480G7yZIlzEbkEpbGnyIDEdZg91deoCEKTyQb2WrfVIuaE2nGJAnyN9j cz9c1KklKBHbPkhcGhfKsiQSzV+KS5dSf7onkLK/DAk08QNxbSNkydEgWHjjaRfJklbY 2euIB4++slDFT2V9pApN8Omvk7aqSQNPatvmA= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:50:44 +0200 From: "Raul Bonell" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3161_2892135.1217584244664" References: <66f9cc1e0808010203id258df6k8c59c2c67abecf6@mail.gmail.com> <66f9cc1e0808010241v6eace478kff1989ca367a0a6a@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82428 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 09:50:45 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_3161_2892135.1217584244664 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline for the plex, I use to program a pair of banks in the fcb. basic/quick functions in the first and others (like triggers) for the second.. i'm done. raul. 2008/8/1 Raul Bonell > > > 2008/8/1 Per Boysen > > > What I'm saying is that settling with a tool-set that you manage to >> master does indeed free your ass! And we all know that then your mind >> will follow - here in glorious musical creativity. >> > > > > I really like this P mode ! > Gloorioooous !! > > > > -- > The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo > Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com > TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra > TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com > -- The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com ------=_Part_3161_2892135.1217584244664 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
for the plex, I use to program a pair of banks in the fcb. basic/quick functions in the first and others (like triggers) for the second.. i'm done.

raul.

2008/8/1 Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com>


2008/8/1 Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com>


What I'm saying is that settling with a tool-set that you manage to
master does indeed free your ass! And we all know that then your mind
will follow - here in glorious musical creativity.


 
I really like this P mode !
Gloorioooous !!



--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com



--
The Playing Orchestra: http://www.telefonica.net/web2/tpo
Chain Tape Collective: http://www.ct-collective.com
TPO at myspace: http://www.myspace.com/theplayingorchestra
TPO at Jamendo: http://www.jamendo.com
------=_Part_3161_2892135.1217584244664-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 10:00:52 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A552D3BF83; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:00:52 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 55259465/mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.231.202 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.231.202 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: As8AAEV7kkhPTufK/2dsb2JhbAAIixilW4NR X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,292,1215385200"; d="scan'208";a="55259465" Message-ID: <4892DEDB.2080604@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 11:00:59 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: MIDI foot controllers References: <9ab0c76f0807311655k32e95871wc9a13ba157f6fa7d@mail.gmail.com> <4892AAA7.90701@tiscali.co.uk> <000e01c8f3a0$85edf2e0$5901a8c0@bobdell> In-Reply-To: <000e01c8f3a0$85edf2e0$5901a8c0@bobdell> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82429 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:00:52 +0000 (UTC) Bob Amstadt wrote: > The Gordius Little Giant is amazingly programmable. I haven't tried to > use it with an EDP, but it is an amazing device and much smaller than > the FCB1010. It's excellent for the edp. ( I replaced my fcb with one a while back) ...but expensive !!!! for me, it's worth it, for the weight saved and the possibility of edp tricks. andy butler > > If you want to build your own MIDI controller, there is excellent > information here: http://www.ucapps.de/ > > Bob Amstadt > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 10:02:43 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id C21B03BF6F; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:02:43 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:02:41 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Re:alternate foot controllers for the Echoplex Digital Pro Plus MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 217.68.49.65 X-DCC--Metrics: eir; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: <6I-zd.A.tkG.D9tkIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82430 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:02:43 +0000 (UTC) > Luis wrote > Ive heard good things about this one > http://www.roland.com/products/en/FC-300/index.html > Sjaak from this list can probably answer a lot of your questions > here is his web Hey Luis, how's life? :) Yes, the FC-300 is a very flexible controller. F= or example, it can send up to 6 control change messages per expression pe= dal on different midi channels. And has been very reliable so far. --- Sjaak http://www.livelooping.be/ http://www.overgaauw.be/ http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 10:11:23 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 62A173BF76; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:11:23 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Trace: 52314025/mk-filter-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com/B2C/$b2c-THROTTLED-DYNAMIC/b2c-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP/79.78.231.202 X-SBRS: None X-RemoteIP: 79.78.231.202 X-IP-MAIL-FROM: akbutler@tiscali.co.uk X-IP-BHB: Once X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: As8AANZ9kkhPTufK/2dsb2JhbAAIixilb4NR X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.31,292,1215385200"; d="scan'208";a="52314025" Message-ID: <4892E154.2040505@tiscali.co.uk> Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 11:11:32 +0100 From: andy butler User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Echoplex Digital Pro Plus References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: <9RpxV.A.IxG.LFukIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82431 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:11:23 +0000 (UTC) Sjaak wrote: >> There's also a Roland device that some people use (....anybody here???) > > Yep, the older FC-2000 and the latest model is the FC-300. Each pedal can be programmed as follows: > - Type of midi message: CC but you can also send other type of midi data > - Range: This sets the range for values that are transmitted (minimum + maximum value) > - Mode: > * Latch = The ON and OFF will alternate each time you press the pedal > * Momentary = The value will be ON while you press the pedal, and OFF when you release the pedal. > - Amp control jack 1 + 2 > > Btw: I haven't used it with an EDP ;) > If you use the * Momentary setting, and set the EDP ControlSource = CC this should be ok for EDP I haven't had one to do latency tests on tho'. (unlikely it's bad...but best to check) Incidently latency tests for fcb1010 FC7 (the edp non-midi controller) Gordius Little Giant show them all to be good, all 7mS or under when the EDP latency is included (triggering sample) Not much difference between them, with the Gordius being slightly faster. andy butler > --- > Sjaak > http://www.livelooping.be/ > http://www.overgaauw.be/ > http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 10:59:28 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9C5043BF7E; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:59:28 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=FEUWhyTCtt9SIUPaX3+c+S/N9VzzgqfIU8UOGL0QGai4t4jJF6W7+5rCHNpufVls/RMS3R8bwlI+EFerWsLsnZeX4MHXMqTRUeqraIH9uzHXMqZpsGr3aPwQJc2YT0H0YxYE/L7wQx8vE0Hwgq/nlbrQnarr/CvMgho7SPhHhrU=; X-YMail-OSG: zS9ve4UVM1nxL_gfH4c.fXGfIkfLfCOqhbFfRxIXoOvEK3t3qVownz66lKuwWP_a9D4U02ST61vsVstS7yruSS997j4bZYqpEIo7E8xTQZ3AvLFh_SZIVhNO4xI- Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:59:26 +0100 (BST) From: Richard Graham Subject: Re: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808010248i3beadb47iac96a471df619706@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-2035453406-1217588366=:68747" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <16589.68747.qm@web86108.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82432 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:59:28 +0000 (UTC) --0-2035453406-1217588366=:68747 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Thanks, Per! Ricky Per Boysen wrote: On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Richard Graham wrote: > Hi Per, > > A very insightful post! Been thinking of buying a FCB floorboard for my EDP > for a while now, and I think I will. A lot can be said for having access to > additional parameters, especially changing between Insert and Multiply > functions. I assume this is possible? Hi Ricky, I guess your assumption is correct, but you can easily check out in the manual: http://www.gibson.com/Files/Downloads/PDFs/Gibson/EchoplexPlusManual12.pdf -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen --0-2035453406-1217588366=:68747 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Thanks, Per!
 
Ricky

Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Richard Graham
wrote:
> Hi Per,
>
> A very insightful post! Been thinking of buying a FCB floorboard for my EDP
> for a while now, and I think I will. A lot can be said for having access to
> additional parameters, especially changing between Insert and Multiply
> functions. I assume this is possible?


Hi Ricky,

I guess your assumption is correct, but you can easily check out in the manual:
http://www.gibson.com/Files/Downloads/PDFs/Gibson/EchoplexPlusManual12.pdf

--
Greetings from Sweden

Per Boysen
www.boysen.se (Swedish)
www.looproom.com (international)
www.myspace.com/perboysen


--0-2035453406-1217588366=:68747-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 11:01:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D811B3BF85; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:01:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 12:01:14 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Re:MIDI foot controllers (was: Echoplex Digital Pro Plus) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 217.68.49.65 X-DCC--Metrics: hel; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82433 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:01:16 +0000 (UTC) > Bob Amstadt: > The Gordius Little Giant is amazingly programmable. I haven't tried to= use > it with an EDP, but it is an amazing device and much smaller than the > FCB1010. Hi Bob :) Gordius sure makes interesting products but as most of the manu= facturors their target is the guitar player. But maybe I should try one a= nd see if it works for me. As a keyboard player it's very difficult to know what's going on with my = LP1 on stage. It build in a 6HE 19" rack and standing on the floor at the= right site, I'm playing piano so it's can't see the track leds very well= . For example: current track, track status etc. And as a result of that, = things go wrong. I have progammed my FC-300 in a way that the patch number display indicat= es the track number but I have no way to know the status of a track or th= e status of features like reverse, speed etc. The FC-300 latch mode can d= o this but unfortunaltely the LP1 does not support latch mode (=3D on and= off will alternate each time you press the pedal), so the LED's are alwa= ys off. Besides that, most standalone midi devices don't send the status info bac= k to the midi controller, so when you change from track to track, your co= ntroller will probably show the wrong status anyway.... Do you know any c= ontroller which would work like this? What about Gordius? BTW: using a laptop with a DAW controller or a controller like the Jazzmu= tant - Lemur could do this but that would cost a fortune :) See http://ww= w.jazzmutant.com/ --- Sjaak http://www.livelooping.be/ http://www.overgaauw.be/ http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 11:03:32 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 916B53BF8B; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:03:32 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:mime-version:content-type; bh=NhqX51ppp2VITL3lK+lFqmiSax2MIY67TOtv5wsO518=; b=mR1MJ0LQMeE79v6wDGfnYjPLjNqHrtg+vra127kf7AF4/BaQutTBOoWdU4CYZmeX2W JJmfc/bRlrLT814WPq2DXnCphQFV+3PaLWcVD9uBI0YHFIgM4v4XRLLZ7dmr9jPM5vvb vDwGpxNHHLz9Rg2V3ntCKf46kuJPGAEpxplPs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:mime-version:content-type; b=G2FvCQNmlCQltBoOCb5zYtNmtJ9eOAV8XDySveD8toFd2Y+/PUIe+5rBRiDE+DuGTm 2X3taGe8ivQ4e3bj9ItxCafTOAxnzaaEcUKYgvhZhM0kliia1uclIuVIGaHYjG7P+dDl bIPkW7a1QKkhllpCvuBPT/E+onRR8sOpVK+A0= Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 07:03:30 -0400 From: "Dennis Moser" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: GIG SPAM and CD Release: New York, Friday/Boston, Saturday! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2458_21421710.1217588610628" Resent-Message-ID: <3qLzyC.A.TjH.E2ukIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82434 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:03:32 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_2458_21421710.1217588610628 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Tonight ... a *No Eclipse Party*! Someone said there was an eclipse tonight ...not on MY stage! I'm starting off a busy weekend tonight, playing for the first time in New York City. Here's details: *07:00 PM to 11:00 PM* *Think Coffee* *248 Mercer Street* *New York, New York* Appearing in New York for the first time at Think Coffee! 4 Hours of Live ambient/experimental guitar improv ... *248 mercer street (between 3rd & 4th st) New York, NY (212) 228-6226* * *I'll have copies of the latest CD release, "*...this warming spring earth*", for sale (and some oldies, too!). There's a sample track from the CD here: http://audiozoloft.com/CDs/Warming/ ... and then, *SATURDAY IN SOMERVILLE!* 08/02/2008 07:00 PM - The Nave (Clarendon Hill Presbyterian Church) 155 Powderhouse Blvd., Somerville, MA, 02144 Cost: $7.00 Donation FIVE KNAVES @ THE NAVE Five musicians from literally across the Northern Hemisphere--from Maine and Massachusetts to New York and Oaxaca, Mexico--will gather to perform for an evening of musical exploration and improvisation ... featuring: *Chinapainting *{*Daryl Shawn & Jim Goodin*}( http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com), *Tim Nelson *( http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes), *Dennis Mose*r (http://audiozoloft.com), and *Rob Byrd* (http://www.robbyrd.com). Should be a great evening, as the acoustics at The Nave are a delight. I hope some of you can make either of these performances; both will be recorded for later sharing and distribution. Joe Bob Briggs would say, "What a great way to kick off August!" Best to all and keep on looping! Dennis (and yes, I beat Zoe by an hour ... she and I have joined the TIPLOSS Fingertip Replacement Plan for Looping Musicians!) ------=_Part_2458_21421710.1217588610628 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Tonight ... a No Eclipse Party!  Someone said there was an eclipse tonight ...not on MY stage!

I'm starting off a busy weekend tonight, playing for the first time in New York City. Here's details:

07:00 PM  to 11:00 PM
Think Coffee
248 Mercer Street
New York, New York
Appearing in New York for the first time at Think Coffee!
4 Hours of Live ambient/experimental guitar improv ...
248 mercer street (between 3rd & 4th st) New York, NY (212) 228-6226

I'll have copies of the latest CD release, "...this warming spring earth", for sale (and some oldies, too!). There's a sample track from the CD here:

http://audiozoloft.com/CDs/Warming/

... and then,

SATURDAY IN SOMERVILLE!

08/02/2008
07:00 PM - The Nave
(Clarendon Hill Presbyterian Church)



155 Powderhouse Blvd.,
Somerville, MA, 02144
Cost: $7.00 Donation

FIVE KNAVES @ THE NAVE Five musicians from literally across the Northern Hemisphere--from Maine and Massachusetts to New York and Oaxaca, Mexico--will gather to perform for an evening of musical exploration and improvisation ... featuring: Chinapainting {Daryl Shawn & Jim Goodin}(http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com), Tim Nelson (http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes), Dennis Moser (http://audiozoloft.com), and Rob Byrd (http://www.robbyrd.com).


Should be a great evening, as the acoustics at The Nave are a delight. I hope some of you can make either of these performances; both will be recorded for later sharing and distribution.

Joe Bob Briggs would say, "What a great way to kick off August!"

Best to all and keep on looping!

Dennis

(and yes, I beat Zoe by an hour ... she and I have joined the TIPLOSS Fingertip Replacement Plan for Looping Musicians!)
------=_Part_2458_21421710.1217588610628-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 11:25:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B73033BF87; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:25:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 12:25:49 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: RE: Looping Strategies MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 217.68.49.65 X-DCC--Metrics: hel; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82435 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:25:50 +0000 (UTC) Kevin Kissinger wrote > I organize my loops into four* categories: > 1) Very Short Loop (VSL): less than one measure long > 2) Short Loop: lasts from one to four measures (< 10 seconds) > 3) Long loop: greater than four measures (> 10 seconds) > 4) Manual loops: done without hardware -- the musician simply Kevin, thanks for your reply. I'm using different loops length and do sol= o's as well but I didn't fully realize the impact of them on the structur= e of a song. I prefer to analyse things and to work in a logical way; you= r tips helps me to understand why certain things work and others not. I'v= e been practizing with different combinations of loop lengths last week. = It's funny to experience the differences while playing live :) --- Sjaak http://www.livelooping.be/ http://www.overgaauw.be/ http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 11:27:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 10CB03BF84; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:27:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Nk1VVVJ3gmAA:10 a=YXOspHT6iKkA:10 a=paUis6ZMAAAA:8 a=8h2tVM2zAAAA:8 a=RuyKgJuBAAAA:8 a=iwUlkf_-VjYCf289aYkA:9 a=SYKTfO3MePG4mXtN88oA:7 a=CqesisBjpKsLElroYSqY0_UQM4QA:4 a=rCbS6JjwtmAA:10 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <66f9cc1e0808010203id258df6k8c59c2c67abecf6@mail.gmail.com> References: <66f9cc1e0808010203id258df6k8c59c2c67abecf6@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <453A1EF6-964E-4461-8AED-FB8A380E932F@comcast.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Chris Sewell Subject: Re: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 07:27:35 -0400 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82436 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:27:38 +0000 (UTC) Per, Have you tried Bome's Midi translator? It's now available for OSX. It has opened up all sorts of possibilities. I can now use Live for pretty much everything. Why Live has not implemented native midi control of keystrokes is beyond me. But, you can program strings of commands like you were wanting to. Why not combine both approaches? Chris On Aug 1, 2008, at 5:03 AM, Per Boysen wrote: > Hi Friends, > > I've spotted some threads on foot controllers recently. And since I > just recently posted about my research for a smaller ctrl setup I'd > just like to add now that I have given up on that; my vision of having > just one pedal and changing its functionality by additional hand > control (laptop keys, MIDI hand button pad etc). The simplest and > coolest solution I tried was a one-button glass mouse, from Apple, > gaffer taped to the stage floor so you can place the mouse cursor with > touch control on the laptop pad and simply tap the floor mouse with a > foot at the correct timing. (I had the same wish for the EDP many > years ago, using its programs to set different functionality setups > for a given set of floor buttons) > > The direct reason I gave up on all this is that when I finally plugged > in my FCB yesterday, I had such a kick simply by not having to plan my > playing much in advance. Also by playing both the looper and the > instrument at the same time. What blast that was - being able to > decide on the spot where to go on the next downbeat! An example: I > tend to work a lot with pitch. In loopers I constantly work the > rate/speed to create melodies "in the loop" or just chord changes to > accompany melody lines I play on top. I had noticed that there are > only about a dozen "chord vamps" I usually improvise with in different > combinations, so I thought I could pre program those changes to lift > off the burden of tap dancing over the floor pedals. How wrong I was! > It really IS not the same thing having a preprogrammed looper action > sequence thrown at you as if you should play the looper with feet (for > the very same action sequence) while you play an instrument by hand. > So I was wrong, but I had some fun finding out about that. > > I'm finding the FCB pedal good enough for what I regard an optimal > looping setup: > Instant access to some few but powerful actions. Playable. > > -- > Greetings from Sweden > > Per Boysen > www.boysen.se (Swedish) > www.looproom.com (international) > www.myspace.com/perboysen > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 11:38:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BC07D3BF89; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:38:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=4WOgo5ZOKen0dCSpUZPZP9IB0efkBZlzHxMtfX51arU=; b=Hxfxo3J/jzlFgx7FcmZ6JY6pRYg3S7I8+aR/d9hXlI/DISY38QWMx4x0GAWhU1XDSu 4EdvXaQnWxRHKkH1zXlYuqdVRTGIjd7brWq5pdK0T0S++E4DDOM78AoCKNThfFWDGmDx Clm3xp3oPD98NR6rd2TqOLsCw8cJ57O1fiByo= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=rlOI9+7BvqHaSgF5kOQ1IpeVZeq9GPCXEcIetEQH/OIMjslqXOPdTuUOVVfqFxK7mo iZhpjzOEP3+hwT41tcF6U37kUN6baqIk3SvchpB4F6Q0ZmeWU2SxF9/mLzcf5en+ZlC2 zZ6sxoTnSbPtlvqNT8/1SfADTSGjXxhL2AFaM= Message-ID: <66f9cc1e0808010438u7b8e520off3523afd6974240@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:38:55 +0200 From: "Per Boysen" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: In praise of the FCB1010 - the instantly playable control approach. Made for BLASTING! In-Reply-To: <453A1EF6-964E-4461-8AED-FB8A380E932F@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <66f9cc1e0808010203id258df6k8c59c2c67abecf6@mail.gmail.com> <453A1EF6-964E-4461-8AED-FB8A380E932F@comcast.net> Resent-Message-ID: <0cnQzD.A.HU.PXvkIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82437 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:38:55 +0000 (UTC) On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Chris Sewell wrote: > Per, > Have you tried Bome's Midi translator? It's now available for OSX. It has > opened up all sorts of possibilities. I can now use Live for pretty much > everything. Why Live has not implemented native midi control of keystrokes > is beyond me. But, you can program strings of commands like you were wanting > to. Why not combine both approaches? > Chris Yes, I have tried Bome's. It's great! I'd recommend it to everyone that uses Live and needs to get at computer key commands by using external MIDI control gear. Not of much interest to me right now though, since I have no interest in using Live for live looping. -- Greetings from Sweden Per Boysen www.boysen.se (Swedish) www.looproom.com (international) www.myspace.com/perboysen From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 11:55:47 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8EC773BF86; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:55:47 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=5clFshtem4khnM7Vd+GCD6o92BBcZzYyi0WXs3jVKBrHtg8rvrd2DKjRnnxZa/zPKlMlsxf/GlykUiYauJaIiCjpXm5ar6tu02bq8N0pDXmxd1T5KGvE4VyM9YQ9IWCKhuUraoTDXe8ilN0Zl2TkkiHav1vqxMng72xWXCx0IWI=; X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218 Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 04:55:46 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.A. Angulo" Reply-To: labaloops@yahoo.com Subject: Re:alternate foot controllers for the Echoplex Digital Pro Plus To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <149923.44022.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <6RtZGD.A.wl.DnvkIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82438 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 11:55:47 +0000 (UTC) Hey Sjaak! Life is good still alive brother,thanx for the info,it certainly looks a lot more flexible than the FCB1010,the only thing that bothers me is the pedal layout,with the fcb1010 instant access to all the EDP midi functions is easier,so with the fc300 there would be more tap dancing involved. cheers Luis www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Fri, 8/1/08, Sjaak wrote: > From: Sjaak > Subject: Re:alternate foot controllers for the Echoplex Digital Pro Plus > To: "Loopers-Delight" > Date: Friday, August 1, 2008, 3:02 AM > > Luis wrote > > Ive heard good things about this one > > http://www.roland.com/products/en/FC-300/index.html > > Sjaak from this list can probably answer a lot of your > questions > > here is his web > > Hey Luis, how's life? :) Yes, the FC-300 is a very > flexible controller. For example, it can send up to 6 > control change messages per expression pedal on different > midi channels. And has been very reliable so far. > > --- > Sjaak > http://www.livelooping.be/ > http://www.overgaauw.be/ > http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 12:26:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7CE303BF90; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 12:26:38 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 13:26:36 +0100 Message-Id: Subject: Re:alternate foot controllers for the Echoplex Digital Pro Plus MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Sensitivity: 3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: "Sjaak" To: "Loopers-Delight" X-XaM3-API-Version: 4.1 (B54) X-type: 0 X-SenderIP: 217.68.49.65 X-DCC--Metrics: hel; whitelist Resent-Message-ID: <88nEOB.A.SGB.-DwkIB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82439 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 12:26:38 +0000 (UTC) Luis wrote: > it certainly looks a lot more flexible than the FCB1010,the only thing = > that bothers me is the pedal layout,with the fcb1010 instant access to = all > the EDP midi functions is easier,so with the fc300 there would be more = tap > dancing involved. Yes, tap dancing, true....but see it as an addition of your live show :) = The FC-300 works fine for me but I'm still looking for something better, = see my previous reply about the LP1 and my FC-300. I mean: the FC-300 is = a flexible and reliable board but a foot controller and a 19" rack looper= can hardly be seen when you play keyboards...the visibility on stage is = pretty poor, I'm not always in control :) Floor boards are maybe not ideal for me, I need a kind of combination. 1 = or 2 expression pedals on the floor and a desktop controller which I can = put on top of my piano with maybe 10 stomp box switches with LED's to con= trol a rack looper. I don't know yet... --- Sjaak http://www.livelooping.be/ http://www.overgaauw.be/ http://www.myspace.com/sjaakovergaauw=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Fri Aug 1 12:38:16 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 4EA3F3BF8C; Fri, 1 Aug 2008 12:38:16 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=raNK/58ku7q5v+0FtVflGUgORhiEIM/F10786x4HMKY=; b=kEl2agO45VmJlmOowYuo8NqIfwMSflZDTUNzI3yhRMqEv4QCp32R/bBMhCOR1KNKMP Ow7l2omKqCiZW8c6MmdlpYUw1j3GJgw6npTZeLzCJgy2HszQF8q9/mSfjnIuQftOIVvp gN989cy/dh55HTmzqxMZFxw+0Jbn00trBtICk= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=aKTl+y8D4uQxDc6P7AWuALVAWacjiB5HUUXUV7ogMwKTcM3ghufUH0gXzyhav9h72n RCz0n61rrtqJ/CbCuyUUmmOMjC3i/PD6jtZAdUpI7KJ2V3MqnjozzeMDV7pV4S0n+jWS /FwuGbg6Wvl9uxSIvFu4O0aSZnZy8mPXr/06M= Message-ID: <9e0440a60808010538v4e4d0f09kd26d4845f07e1fff@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 08:38:06 -0400 From: "Jim Goodin" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: New Chinapainting release - Night Blooming Cereus In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4217_13633137.1217594286705" References: <004701c8f305$4eca83a0$6701a8c0@dayglogreen> <4891C340.1090305@mhorse.com> <66f9cc1e0807311337v5cb41f0fg7bbc106bf1786dc4@mail.gmail.com> <9e0440a60807311342v270eb8d2lbf724acae229627f@mail.gmail.com> <003701c8f351$c66b23f0$4101a8c0@STUDIO1> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/82440 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 12:38:16 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_4217_13633137.1217594286705 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline RIcky and Raul thanks so much for the positive words. Jim On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 5:40 AM, Raul Bonell wrote: > my vote for the same title track. good inspiration and execution. > > raul. > > 2008/7/31 Ricky Graham > > Enjoyed the clips also! >> >> Good work. >> >> Ricky >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Jim Goodin >> *To:* Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> *Sent:* Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:42 PM >> *Subject:* Re: New Chinapainting release - Night Blooming Cereus >> >> Per thanks so much man, we're very jazzed about this record. Appreciate >> you taking time to give an electronic spin. >> >> Best >> >> Jim >> >> On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Per Boysen wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Daryl Shawn wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com/music.htm >>>> >>> >>> >>> Hey, China guys - this is good! 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RIcky and Raul thanks so much for the positive words.  Jim

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 5:40 AM, Raul Bonell <raul.bonell@gmail.com> wrote:
my vote for the same title track. 
good inspiration and execution. 

raul.

2008/7/31 Ricky Graham <rock.guitar.guru@btinternet.com>

Enjoyed the clips also!
 
Good work.
 
Ricky
----- Original Message -----
From: Jim Goodin
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: New Chinapainting release - Night Blooming Cereus

Per thanks so much man, we're very jazzed about this record.  Appreciate you taking time to give an electronic spin.
 
Best
 
Jim

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 4:37 PM, Per Boysen <perboysen@gmail.com> wrote:


On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 3:50 PM, Daryl Shawn <highhorse@mhorse.com> wrote:

http://www.chinapaintingmusic.com/music.htm