From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 1 01:24:02 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 488EF3BE86; Wed, 1 Oct 2008 01:24:02 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=RTNvnOd5U/nDOLUBffDzFHgS1Buoklzb75YUUXptRg40/HuSRRXGiv0M7bfz9E74aOVqDkPY2IW7YhEqNRxBuQhXd7IH+JhABu6HiKyPD2JcbFV0Tk/hwSy0qC1xn0jmdbNf7tDtOJr4gDmpvquasYG+PnpxECFbW0VqGKkn4nw=; X-YMail-OSG: f8rbyEkVM1kLC2PYx6Dsjzh3znAt.jfwyrZAbQvjR7fNw4BPHJunY.DslRPqf9Rg9uWaXXagkrQ4ziB2U5nu0i7LGcAr1ZQIlrXvfDWjBxraMFZBOAuvhXjChaZtpH1dPRV_hJaBidCdwYqrjaDcSIZug60- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 18:24:00 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Mobius first impressions... and questions. To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <899706.68440.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <1isZ0.A.LbH.yEt4IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84121 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 01:24:02 +0000 (UTC) yes,u did that yourself? so simple yet very tasteful! I also find the Looerpatives logo on the website simple but nice Bob why is= it not on the hardware?I also liked the blue front panel on the first unit= s! www.myspace.com/luisangulocom --- On Tue, 9/30/08, Matthias Grob wrote: > From: Matthias Grob > Subject: Re: Mobius first impressions... and questions. > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 4:27 PM > > > > But i still love hardware,much sexier than stearing at > a laptop and =20 > > dealing with mouses,so if Matthias comes up with a new > hardware =20 > > stereo EDP with better sound quality upgradable and > loop storage and =20 > > new cool functions i am buying one! >=20 > I hope to get there! > > > > oh,and with his beautiful old logo offcourse;-) >=20 > you mean LOOP ? one of the first things I did on my first > mac in =20 > 1990 ;-) > > > > > > www.myspace.com/luisangulocom > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 9/30/08, mark francombe > wrote: > > > >> From: mark francombe > > >> Subject: Mobius first impressions... and > questions. > >> To: "loopers-delight" > > >> Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 12:59 PM > >> Hi guys, > >> > >> As many of you know from my previous rants aginst > the > >> "laptop loopers" I am > >> a self proclaimed "hardware head" (its a > medical > >> condition you know). > >> > >> But I thought I would write a few notes to the > group > >> regarding my first > >> experiences of.. wait for it, wait for it.... > MOBIUS!!! > >> > >> But first a raison d'=EAtre: I was going to be > at Y2k8, > >> and perform. I was > >> planning a NEW IMPROVED streamlined flight > friendly case, > >> empty of loopers > >> (that I could borrow en situ) but full of... well > my stuff. > >> (synth modules, > >> joysticks, and pitchshiftin, bit crushing > madness.) It was > >> then that it > >> happened, I considered it, for the first time... > laptop... > >> gulp... and > >> mobius... > >> As some of you know I have had to cancel my trip > and > >> performance, cos my > >> better half Hilde has been diagnosed with Cervical > Cancer > >> and we have just > >> started her Radiation and Chemo therapy > yesterday... some > >> things come before > >> looping guys. (and girls...go get them thar smear > tests.. > >> don't walk... > >> run... ) > >> > >> Why have I always been against software, well it > all stems > >> from a period > >> where I only produced music on computer, its was > great... I > >> did 2 maybe > >> three great albums, using predominately Audio > Mulch... I > >> was drawn in by the > >> wealth of possibilities, the infinate versions, > radical mix > >> after radical > >> mix... I dreamt up instruments, then I created > them, in > >> SynthEdit or > >> Reactor, I micro edited samples down at the sample > level, > >> building sounds > >> from scratch, morphing one thing into another, I > made > >> aleatoric systems that > >> played themselves getting their only data from > weather > >> pressure data from an > >> alaskan website, I listened and recorded actual > live police > >> radio from > >> Saracuse, it was a blast!!! > >> > >> But then I added up the amount of hours spent at a > >> computer. As a film-maker > >> as my dayjob, then coming home and using a > computer for > >> fun... I was sat > >> there.. 18 hours a day, in front of the screen. > >> > >> So I went back to the (now dusty rack and modular > synth) > >> and never looked > >> back... until now (Here comes the Mobius stuff for > those > >> that thought this > >> was a Mobius review). > >> > >> I thought.. so what if I just had my guitar and a > >> laptop..(reintroducing the > >> guitar should keep it physical) and so for a mere > 3 hours > >> last night I gave > >> it a go. > >> I was mightily impressed. > >> But not without some reservations. > >> > >> First-up I should say I couldnt get my FCB1010 to > work with > >> it. I should say > >> that I will buy a PC lap and a decent sound/midi > card when > >> I have completely > >> convinced myself, but for now I thought I would > try it out > >> with my M audio > >> Ozone. Imagine my dismay when I went round the > back of the > >> keyboard and > >> looked at "That other midi plug that should > be midi > >> IN"... Oh no.. its > >> something called USB in... not a USB socket, but a > midi > >> plug, not sure what > >> its for, but it aint midi IN... so no pedal power > for > >> now... > >> > >> And I think THAT issue would probably solve all my > >> problems. As everyone > >> knows, you cant loop with a mouse click... > impossible, but > >> I tried, oh and > >> this with the new mac version. I will get a PC do > do this > >> eventually, so I > >> can run it inside Mulch (anyone using Mobius in > Mulch > >> BTW... works?? or??) > >> > >> Sound quality was excellent, I think I probably > have to > >> change the noise > >> floor setting, cos it was writing Overdubs every > loop, even > >> though I wasnt > >> playing anything (that is the same as on the EDP > right...? > >> Dont play, no > >> overdub??) > >> > >> I loved the fact that I could now SEE what was > happening > >> with the overdub > >> layers, with the quantized up-coming commands. > >> > >> I was annoyed by the fact that one track stayed in > Overdub > >> when I switched > >> to another... any need for that? > >> > >> And is it still recording into that first track > while you > >> make a new track? > >> > >> So actually I DIDNT like that it had multiple > tracks, I > >> could use ONE more > >> than the edp... so two... and I like that they are > stereo, > >> but I found > >> myself going to new tracks all the time, like it > was a > >> repeater, and that > >> makes a different kind of music... that is > unweildy and > >> repetative, one that > >> you cant change in a moment cos everything is > spread across > >> tracks... god 4 > >> tracks is too many on the Repeater for me!! > >> > >> None of the speed change or pitch shift things > worked > >> (apart from the EDPish > >> hlfspeed, worked fine) but thats probably a mac > version > >> port thing-soon to > >> be fixed. > >> > >> It distorted quite easily for me after a few > overdubs, prob > >> need to fiddle > >> with gain structure I guess, but I am used to be > able to > >> HIT THE GUITAR!!! > >> and stroke it... > >> > >> LOVED the idea of the track slip thing (is this > the same as > >> on the repeater? > >> Should it slip by cycles, beats.. what?) > unfortunatly that > >> crashed Mobius on > >> my machine... > >> > >> Also LOVED the idea of different presets on each > track. > >> (But needed to > >> figure out how to change the default settings) > Does ANYONE > >> have UN-synched > >> tracks as a default? Why? > >> > >> And seriously intrigued (but not enough time to > try) by the > >> scripts thing. > >> One of my current techniques is to fire a bunch of > midi > >> notes at my EDP from > >> my drum-machine. I regularly have pre worked-out > sequences > >> for example... > >> that overdubs then changes the 8ths setting then > goes half > >> speed, reverse, > >> normal speed, forward, multiply... then 25 undos > in a row. > >> Now Im NOT SURE > >> if scripts will let me do the same thing... but I > think > >> so... and more > >> besides... record on track one after an 8th, > switch to > >> track 2, repeat > >> across all tracks, wher all tracks are pre pitched > to > >> different notes, THEN > >> after one bar stop record on one and insert one > space > >> later... bla bla > >> bla... > >> > >> What does "Shuffle" do? Button didnt > seem to do > >> anything. > >> > >> I am yet to be able to say how it FEELS... This > has been > >> one of my things in > >> previous posts, that just like a favoured guitar, > where you > >> love the action > >> or the tone, and how it sits against your knee, a > looper > >> has FEEL. The EDP > >> to me has lots of FEEL, I play WITH it, forget it, > it > >> surprises me, yet > >> never tricks me. My OTHER looper the repeater, has > NO FEEL, > >> I like its > >> features, but I must treat it like a tape machine, > I switch > >> it on, it > >> records, it loops, it does what I tell it, but I > cant > >> forget it, one Undo, > >> and 4 tracks means I lose myself in where what is, > I need > >> to remove > >> something and take down the wrong track > >> > >> Now... with Mobius inside Mulch... with different > tracks > >> coming out to > >> different bubbleblowers? shiiiiiiiit.. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> So im not there yet... would like some feeback on > these > >> questions, but I > >> will probably joint the Mobius list and hang out > for a > >> bit... > >> Need to borrow a new soundcard witha midi IN and > try it > >> with FCB.. maybe the > >> FEEL is ok... man... > >> > >> By the way.. where is the Mobius list, couldnt > find it at > >> Yahoo... > >> > >> thats it for now... good first impresions... but > scared > >> what the future > >> might bring (in more ways than one - see 3rd > paragraph) > >> > >> Later kids, dont stay up to late.. > >> > >> Mark > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> --=20 > >> www.markfrancombe.com > >> http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe > >> http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe > >> www.looop.no > > > > > > > >=0A=0A=0A From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 1 05:58:18 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0AE8B3BE82; Wed, 1 Oct 2008 05:58:17 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: From: "Bob Amstadt" To: References: <899706.68440.qm@web38604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Looperlative front panel (was Re: Mobius first impressions... and questions.) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 22:58:10 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84122 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 05:58:17 +0000 (UTC) > I also find the Looerpatives logo on the website simple but nice Bob why > is it not on the hardware?I also liked the blue front panel on the > first > units! The logo design was done after the first units were ordered. The blue front panel was done as a special one for myself. Unfortunately, I was told that the blue process was not repeatable and that every unit would be a different shade of blue. So, I instead chose to go with black. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 1 14:21:06 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 5EE423BE90; Wed, 1 Oct 2008 14:21:06 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-SBRS: None X-SenderGroup: RELAYLIST X-MailFlowPolicy: $RELAYED X-MID: 69255194 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C923D0.EFF571B9" Subject: RE: Repeater clock Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 15:21:04 +0100 Message-ID: <6887813FDE2CCC4FA5FEF1D955205FA1011E4C90@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Repeater clock Thread-Index: Ackj0O/g+FRSxv82RYeiSsIBlTCaYw== References: From: "Goddard, Duncan" To: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 01 Oct 2008 14:21:04.0812 (UTC) FILETIME=[F046EEC0:01C923D0] Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84123 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 14:21:06 +0000 (UTC) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C923D0.EFF571B9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >> just started using the Repeater midi clock to try and sync up some loops and it seems to be rubbish ..... would it be worth spending a few quid on something better? << =20 try it without the merge box first, before trying to find (!) a new midi merge/patch device- they are fast going the way of the snow leopard.... =20 I have used my repeaters as master clocks- still do in my home studio, & with all manner of mergers & throughs going on, to accommodate three or four different hardware sequencers. I do not see even the 0.5bpm wobble, let alone the 5bpm- that would be catastrophic in my rig too. the repeaters are both running the latest (i.e. last) release, but even before that they were pretty solid. =20 fwiw, I use them like this so I can tap-tempo the whole rig after writing a guitar/bass/keyboard loop into the 'peater, then I make up the hardware sequencer patterns over that, often changing the tempo a bit deliberately. I use a lot of syncopated delays, so clock stability is important. I do not have any issues, even though I am merging the clock stream with other data twice (once in a novation keyboard & once in a truly ancient mains-powered merge box, to fold in one of the h/w sequencers that has no soft-through). the stream also passes through two other hardware sequencers. these are, in order, a doepfer maq 16/3, an octopus & a sequentix p3. =20 hth- =20 duncan.=20 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail (and any attached files) is confidential and protected by=20 copyright (and other intellectual property rights). If you are not the=20 intended recipient please e-mail the sender and then delete the email and=20 any attached files immediately. Any further use or dissemination is=20 prohibited. While MTV Networks Europe has taken steps to ensure that this email and=20 any attachments are virus free, it is your responsibility to ensure that=20 this message and any attachments are virus free and do not affect your=20 systems / data. 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 >> just started using the Re= peater=20 midi clock to try and sync up some loops and it seems to be rubbish ..... would it be worth spending a= few=20 quid on something better? <<
 <= /DIV>
try it without the merge= box=20 first, before trying to find (!) a new midi merge/patch device- they are fa= st=20 going the way of the snow leopard....
 <= /DIV>
I have used my repeaters= as=20 master clocks- still do in my home studio, & with all manner of mergers=20 & throughs going on, to accommodate three or four different hardware=20 sequencers. I do not see even the 0.5bpm wobble, let alone the 5bpm- that w= ould=20 be catastrophic in my rig too.
the repeaters are both r= unning=20 the latest (i.e. last) release, but even before that they were pretty=20 solid.
 <= /DIV>
fwiw, I use them like th= is so I=20 can tap-tempo the whole rig after writing a guitar/bass/keyboard loop into = the=20 'peater, then I make up the hardware sequencer patterns over that, often=20 changing the tempo a bit deliberately. I use a lot of syncopated delays, so=20 clock stability is important. I do not have any issues, even though I am me= rging=20 the clock stream with other data twice (once in a novation keyboard & o= nce=20 in a truly ancient mains-powered merge box, to fold in one of the h/w seque= ncers=20 that has no soft-through). the stream also passes through two other hardwar= e=20 sequencers.
these are, in order, a d= oepfer=20 maq 16/3, an octopus & a sequentix p3.
 <= /DIV>
hth-
 <= /DIV>
duncan. 


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------_=_NextPart_001_01C923D0.EFF571B9-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 1 14:28:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B34123BE98; Wed, 1 Oct 2008 14:28:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-YMail-OSG: c7ZctMAVM1lv0l__9IPrXsESOXhniBn56BE.TIXZCdkI6idiJR_gIVH8BdUIrFvCyBVjiwB60x_5zRbItE94K2HzT8azDImBrdb0sIHXL8eWFOUWO0QsiaKZpD775znXYGjOFmM8iyFk7_0hDbOZsvRb X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 07:28:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Thomas Wegmann Reply-To: theweg@verizon.net Subject: RE: Repeater clock To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <6887813FDE2CCC4FA5FEF1D955205FA1011E4C90@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-593408520-1222871332=:25270" Message-ID: <475725.25270.qm@web84108.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84124 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 14:28:54 +0000 (UTC) --0-593408520-1222871332=:25270 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey isn't snow leopard the new MAC OS???? I believe it is!=20 =A0 Peace, Weg My URL http://www.myspace.com/noyestheater My Blog URL http://blog.myspace.com/noyestheater --- On Wed, 10/1/08, Goddard, Duncan wrote: From: Goddard, Duncan Subject: RE: Repeater clock To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 10:21 AM =A0>>=A0just started using the Repeater midi clock to try and sync up some = loops and it seems to be rubbish=A0.....=A0would it be worth spending a few= quid on something better?=A0<< =A0 try it without the merge box first, before trying to find (!) a new midi me= rge/patch device- they are fast going the way of the snow leopard.... =A0 I have used my repeaters as master clocks- still do in my home studio, & wi= th all manner of mergers & throughs going on, to accommodate three or four = different hardware sequencers. I do not see even the 0.5bpm wobble, let alo= ne the 5bpm- that would be catastrophic in my rig too. the repeaters are both running the latest (i.e. last) release, but even bef= ore that they were pretty solid. =A0 fwiw, I use them like this so I can tap-tempo the whole rig after writing a= guitar/bass/keyboard loop into the 'peater, then I make up the hardware se= quencer patterns over that, often changing the tempo a bit deliberately. I = use a lot of syncopated delays, so clock stability is important. I do not h= ave any issues, even though I am merging the clock stream with other data t= wice (once in a novation keyboard & once in a truly ancient mains-powered m= erge box, to fold in one of the h/w sequencers that has no soft-through). t= he stream also passes through two other hardware sequencers. these are, in order, a doepfer maq 16/3, an octopus & a sequentix p3. =A0 hth- =A0 duncan.=A0 CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail (and any attached files) is confidential and protected by=20 copyright (and other intellectual property rights). If you are not the=20 intended recipient please e-mail the sender and then delete the email and= =20 any attached files immediately. Any further use or dissemination is=20 prohibited. While MTV Networks Europe has taken steps to ensure that this email and=20 any attachments are virus free, it is your responsibility to ensure that=20 this message and any attachments are virus free and do not affect your=20 systems / data. Communicating by email is not 100% secure and carries risks such as delay,= =20 data corruption, non-delivery, wrongful interception and unauthorised=20 amendment. If you communicate with us by e-mail, you acknowledge and=20 assume these risks, and you agree to take appropriate measures to minimise= =20 these risks when e-mailing us.=20 MTV Networks International, MTV Networks UK & Ireland, Greenhouse,=20 Nickelodeon Viacom Consumer Products, VBSi, Viacom Brand Solutions=20 International and Comedy Central are all trading names of MTV Networks=20 Europe. MTV Networks Europe is a partnership between MTV Networks Europe= =20 Inc. and Viacom Networks Europe Inc. Address for service in Great Britain= =20 is UK House, 180 Oxford Street, London W1D 1DS, UK. --0-593408520-1222871332=:25270 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Hey isn't snow leopard the new MAC OS???? I believe it is!
 
Peace,
Weg

My URL
http://www.myspace.com/noyestheater

My Blog URL
http://blog.myspace.com/noyestheater

--- On Wed, 10/1/08, Goddard, Duncan <goddard.duncan@mtvne.com> wrote:
From: Goddard, Duncan <goddard.duncan@mtvne.com>
Subject: RE: Repeater clock
To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com
Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 10:21 AM

 >> just started using the Repeater midi clock to try and sync up some loops and it seems to be rubbish ..... would it be worth spending a few quid on something better? <<
 
try it without the merge box first, before trying to find (!) a new midi merge/patch device- they are fast going the way of the snow leopard....
 
I have used my repeaters as master clocks- still do in my home studio, & with all manner of mergers & throughs going on, to accommodate three or four different hardware sequencers. I do not see even the 0.5bpm wobble, let alone the 5bpm- that would be catastrophic in my rig too.
the repeaters are both running the latest (i.e. last) release, but even before that they were pretty solid.
 
fwiw, I use them like this so I can tap-tempo the whole rig after writing a guitar/bass/keyboard loop into the 'peater, then I make up the hardware sequencer patterns over that, often changing the tempo a bit deliberately. I use a lot of syncopated delays, so clock stability is important. I do not have any issues, even though I am merging the clock stream with other data twice (once in a novation keyboard & once in a truly ancient mains-powered merge box, to fold in one of the h/w sequencers that has no soft-through). the stream also passes through two other hardware sequencers.
these are, in order, a doepfer maq 16/3, an octopus & a sequentix p3.
 
hth-
 
duncan. 

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--0-593408520-1222871332=:25270-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 1 14:36:39 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9643D3BE97; Wed, 1 Oct 2008 14:36:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:reply-to :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=6ojf6t5JEh7RzGc5WhMnhIm7MxSbHlzHjD0GLrpKusY=; b=RNjJdkjGZCW/L9ANBarTRB+EVTTaGzZ+BqLEANcoWNEiBpSJNCjsR+nGB55+BknIVl A4iN9e1UOmTeViZ23SNw9czOSGoCPdIwCrqDUkbqoBfndv5eRasfMWkL33U+/l+Xg18k +kAGE1UBTu2gMxW0XvgLpfQqKJTu+IOXfrAlc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=Qd3jspYgXJMbnzP/NqAKf1JhSPhuFO9+zdNS268728Pi/nFKVEBX4BomKCWJzGOBHQ mQau46jx1OzRa22MDcUOTT+Wb1GTFNLG0KPmgVkNr3VnGpT54jx7FymjIWevh4AGw8Wt cbZB5V359ZvWogVglW6YLai7pcysgK3FSGWf8= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 15:36:35 +0100 From: "Simeon Harris" Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Repeater clock In-Reply-To: <6887813FDE2CCC4FA5FEF1D955205FA1011E4C90@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_14595_27685325.1222871795387" References: <6887813FDE2CCC4FA5FEF1D955205FA1011E4C90@MTVNE-EXCLUST02.mtvne.ad.viacom.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84125 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 14:36:39 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_14595_27685325.1222871795387 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline well i've been messing around with various configurations and i seem to have hit on a solution - i'm using my novation controller as the clock master and slaving the repeater to it - seems ok. the merge box, i had to use, because i had footcontroller data that needed to be merged with the clock. i actually tried my old roland tr-626 as the clock master running through the merge box (as the repeater was) and the clock was absolutely rock solid! sim On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 3:21 PM, Goddard, Duncan wrote: > >> just started using the Repeater midi clock to try and sync up some > loops and it seems to be rubbish ..... would it be worth spending a few > quid on something better? << > > try it without the merge box first, before trying to find (!) a new midi > merge/patch device- they are fast going the way of the snow leopard.... > > > ------=_Part_14595_27685325.1222871795387 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
well i've been messing around with various configurations and i seem to have hit on a solution - i'm using my novation controller as the clock master and slaving the repeater to it - seems ok. the merge box, i had to use, because i had footcontroller data that needed to be merged with the clock. i actually tried my old roland tr-626 as the clock master running through the merge box (as the repeater was) and the clock was absolutely rock solid!

sim

On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 3:21 PM, Goddard, Duncan <goddard.duncan@mtvne.com> wrote:
 >> just started using the Repeater midi clock to try and sync up some loops and it seems to be rubbish ..... would it be worth spending a few quid on something better? <<
 
try it without the merge box first, before trying to find (!) a new midi merge/patch device- they are fast going the way of the snow leopard....
 

------=_Part_14595_27685325.1222871795387-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 1 16:36:22 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B6F7B3BEA4; Wed, 1 Oct 2008 16:36:22 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Jeff Larson To: "Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com" Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 11:36:18 -0500 Subject: RE: Mobius first impressions... and questions. Thread-Topic: Mobius first impressions... and questions. Thread-Index: AckjS6AUh+2jZDSlRBuZfMU5dCZotQAlPB9Q Message-ID: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144C3512FEFD@barq.sailpoint.com> References: <9ab0c76f0809301259k23a7d057xeea78c428d88ebcb@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144C3512FD7C@barq.sailpoint.com> <9ab0c76f0809301411o5964720dmb4ebb63428bbf43b@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144C3512FDBE@barq.sailpoint.com> <9ab0c76f0809301526s74b5f18ob7b897a0f0b083e4@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <9ab0c76f0809301526s74b5f18ob7b897a0f0b083e4@mail.gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Resent-Message-ID: <-by5RD.A.s5D.Gc64IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84126 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 16:36:22 +0000 (UTC) > On the repeater you have 2 rotaries... in Trim Mode, > one trims the start of the loop the other trims the end of the loop. > ... > So if I trim the end all the way to the beginning, (So i am hearing a > loop that is just the first second of the first loop i played) So it's non-destructive start/end points like you see in "DJ" oriented sample players? I'd like to add more of these kinds of "playing the loop" features, but the architectural issue I have is what happens when you do this while you are overdubbing or feedback decaying and how this fits in with undo. You say the Repeater has to be in "Trim Mode", does this make it behave more like a static sample player with no undoable loop modifications allowed? One option would be to put the loop into "lockdown" mode where you can trim, slip, pitch, window shift, and retrigger all you want but nothing you do is undoable and you can't be overdubbing or applying feedback at the same time. Then the moment you start Overdub or any other destructive modification the loop is "unlocked", whatever was last playing becomes the new loop, and we resume the undoable layer list as usual. Jeff From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 1 16:50:24 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B39363BEA9; Wed, 1 Oct 2008 16:50:24 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=FekjtiM2Qoktd/NDrTvVVGNRzH/9A6xd7KCsSuGULawGmTT6qObvJks2RYAFyH/om18Tlp/SU5gsmyFwAmtn0X6FhEM7bfjoO+uMaUyh8eGFSA4b2X16++BWuxESz4S/lZyG/MqU+VySyFwjDB2EerBSC8y3JUZBU17pdu2/Yn4=; X-YMail-OSG: 7AKnOtIVM1lGlsjKbg9jpua21o_Sh6YObymtHpTPaKQ9VvyE3k.kAxOFRUEjvstIjhHu_7I47GIbqandNYLHig0fzPRz7UZWuBuwnr6zNdKfwX4a2xWQjOKFuSRqg.Qzy1jIMiibS3GnJPjWh0FSfSy6..ak X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 09:50:23 -0700 (PDT) From: S V G Reply-To: vsyevolod@yahoo.com Subject: Repeater mod To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20081001142855.518103BEA6@arsenic.violacea.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <240764.94422.qm@web52810.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: <-_xI9B.A.slE.Qp64IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84127 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 16:50:24 +0000 (UTC) Duncan, How did the Repeater mod eventually work out? Curious minds want to know... Stephen > I have used my repeaters as master clocks- still do in my > home studio, & > with all manner of mergers & throughs going on, to > accommodate three or > four different hardware sequencers. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 1 17:35:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2AE713BEA6; Wed, 1 Oct 2008 17:35:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48E3B4E6.10706@addcom.de> Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 19:35:34 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Macintosh/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Myspace music play count desaster References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84128 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 17:35:37 +0000 (UTC) jayrope looper's delight schrieb: > This is eventually a musician survival issue. My advice for musicians/artists survival, don't whine about those who don't listen to your music. If the number of plays is more important than the music itself, I would feel being on the wrong planet and would rather fly to a different one... ;-) Are there other alternatives to MySpace than Facebook? It "feels" already better than the sucker of the evil land of mordor, but its still not what I would imagine... Murdoch is sucking your creative input, to increase the money in his already huge pocket. This isn't bad as such, but I'd prefer to participate at least. Still waiting for a community sort of competition to wipe out the dark ages and fill the world with light again... ;-) Most musicians I know use MySpace solely for pointing to their own site, which seems quite successful btw... (And it instantly looks a billion times better than any MySpace design could ever be...) Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 1 17:35:59 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3989D3BEB6; Wed, 1 Oct 2008 17:35:59 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48E3B4FD.8010003@addcom.de> Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 19:35:57 +0200 From: Stefan Tiedje User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Macintosh/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new hardware vst box References: <558757.10785.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <558757.10785.qm@web38605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84129 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 17:35:59 +0000 (UTC) L.Angulo schrieb: >> I doubt that a laptop has really any disadvantage over a >> hardware box (which is just hiding a computer inside > > yes it does > that damn mouse;-) I don't need one, at least not on stage... ;-) And you can actually buy a MacBook with a touchscreen for only a bit more than a Receptor... Stefan -- Stefan Tiedje------------x------- --_____-----------|-------------- --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 1 17:43:33 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 42CA03BEB2; Wed, 1 Oct 2008 17:43:33 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=EpA17pFIeEEKbOTEYjg7CfNJDh8QrL8P4P8FNI2KSjvQ1r3m88WxIBXt2r/ESrMlGTlf/AD2MJDJcHi2B/s5Zg6sFnHsqAvpIML9w8AWDEatl05bydkQRWj+R2V5hwVls4stLuGlXJ61md4+ItYJGZS4tGqjiIw+vn+aILgg+o4=; X-YMail-OSG: 0YYqJDYVM1l.5pSHOEWVgkOu4sTzJ11cjCVpklh9x1iY0Hwoq_p0wLZDxemane6G8J7.wOh6MORwq_BpXxXy60fRSxwGsYh0Y.wvT6E6Qfo.3qHSgUHVlQgTPww0_CI3q3CqblDt9iB8Au7FN2p_1gZExKY8Uhg5xUUdVQCnKr6Q7U05XjQ.moquSx1X2icgxnot X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 10:43:31 -0700 (PDT) From: "L.Angulo" Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: new hardware vst box To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <48E3B4FD.8010003@addcom.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <967393.41750.qm@web38603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84130 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 17:43:33 +0000 (UTC) wow really??? huraaay the mouse is gone!!! > And you can actually buy a MacBook with a touchscreen for > only a bit > more than a Receptor... > > Stefan > > -- > Stefan Tiedje------------x------- > --_____-----------|-------------- > --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- > -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- > ----------()--------www.ccmix.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 1 17:46:56 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7A3CF3BEBE; Wed, 1 Oct 2008 17:46:56 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=YRIi/q2imitJxSL1hoaQrLCEHPjvhTN+S9PjTp1i2lg=; b=WUa3n7MXqvwQQOSYrPt39AT132Nu0KutpMbNrs918UsUyqqgnfQ3rUFA32m+p6nBTe RqqR/mxcvFOcWfiw/dF/cMyvB4hGQNuK/7UELpnSAFYrJIxc5OzceBsllxqBBVaNLIBs JVHwOS8yln6kaQkcOyjUDfGQmWbnbRSkUJoOw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=Z+0CWJ62wnhjVgUKRv9ylvEXYqQw8GZ5gMu8rEwYmlyE/1kdbF8iZx1rjv4kBaSkzD EkvW3j3ROLZ5oRt8HzYadiiSGcQ/Lesx8lJRrE8wG7CqvmHqWqPr4EPOv9cO6uRH+vn1 czW6TwV1klREJUAQUK4fBlH815bvYfeidMMho= Message-ID: <91d8478b0810011046w1ad5a682vcb95d4cc8e5f0622@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 13:46:55 -0400 From: "Jean-Paul De Roover" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Myspace music play count desaster In-Reply-To: <48E3B4E6.10706@addcom.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <48E3B4E6.10706@addcom.de> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84131 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 17:46:56 +0000 (UTC) The issues with Myspace are in the process of being resolved. If you read the blogs on 'Tom's page, you'll see that they are well aware of the issue. All play counts are still being recorded, but as they transfer over the information, some of it might not be represented fully yet. As of a few days, my play count diminished by about 8,000 plays, but yesterday it returned to it's full value (still keeping track of how many plays had come in that day). Don't worry, they're working on it. On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 1:35 PM, Stefan Tiedje wrote: > jayrope looper's delight schrieb: >> >> This is eventually a musician survival issue. > > My advice for musicians/artists survival, don't whine about those who don't > listen to your music. If the number of plays is more important than the > music itself, I would feel being on the wrong planet and would rather fly to > a different one... ;-) > > Are there other alternatives to MySpace than Facebook? It "feels" already > better than the sucker of the evil land of mordor, but its still not what I > would imagine... > > Murdoch is sucking your creative input, to increase the money in his already > huge pocket. This isn't bad as such, but I'd prefer to participate at least. > Still waiting for a community sort of competition to wipe out the dark ages > and fill the world with light again... ;-) > > Most musicians I know use MySpace solely for pointing to their own site, > which seems quite successful btw... > (And it instantly looks a billion times better than any MySpace design could > ever be...) > > Stefan > > -- > Stefan Tiedje------------x------- > --_____-----------|-------------- > --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- > -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- > ----------()--------www.ccmix.com > > -- Jean-Paul De Roover www.jeanpaulderoover.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 1 20:41:10 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9585D3BE8E; Wed, 1 Oct 2008 20:41:10 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 588 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Wed, 01 Oct 2008 20:41:10 UTC Message-ID: <48E3DE18.8040802@servingpeace.com> Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 13:31:20 -0700 From: Sam Nilsson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Macintosh/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Mobius first impressions... and questions. References: <9ab0c76f0809301259k23a7d057xeea78c428d88ebcb@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144C3512FD7C@barq.sailpoint.com> <9ab0c76f0809301411o5964720dmb4ebb63428bbf43b@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144C3512FDBE@barq.sailpoint.com> <9ab0c76f0809301526s74b5f18ob7b897a0f0b083e4@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144C3512FEFD@barq.sailpoint.com> In-Reply-To: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144C3512FEFD@barq.sailpoint.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84132 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 20:41:10 +0000 (UTC) Jeff Larson wrote: > One option would be to put the loop into "lockdown" mode where you > can trim, slip, pitch, window shift, and retrigger all you want but > nothing you do is undoable and you can't be overdubbing or applying > feedback at the same time. Then the moment you start Overdub or any other > destructive modification the loop is "unlocked", whatever was last > playing becomes the new loop, and we resume the undoable layer > list as usual. Would it be possible to simple adjust the start and end points (non-destructively) and then just apply loop modifications (multiply, overdub, etc.) from that point? Would that be compatible with undo? In that case you are operating on the greater (entire) loop, but you only hear the part between your designated start and end points (a loop window). In that case you are working on a loop in a loop, but I don't see why undo can't just operate on the entire loop and still make sense. Just as now, things like multiply or insert would increase the loop time and move the end point. The difference is that in this context it would do it in the loop window and only adjust the greater loop's end point if the window were to extend beyond it. Does that make sense? Is that a workable way to do it? I'm probably forgetting about something important, and not having read the source code, I am just taking a shot in the dark. Anyway, this type of question is really interesting. I just started experimenting with mobius on my ibook last night and I have to say that what it offers - multiple scriptable loopers with EDP-like functions and more - is so exciting and wonderful. Scripting is the missing link for me in a lot of this music production/performance software. Thanks for porting this to the mac! I eagerly await an AU version at which point I hope to begin my experiments with a new laptop running mobius inside of mainstage. Thanks, - Sam From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 1 20:43:09 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2FB4F3BE94; Wed, 1 Oct 2008 20:43:09 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=LoliE1QjepfoW79cRgvIOZFmR7LnK/ftJBSS+G1YMN4=; b=X9f52fgFeJrzBDH8Rb12OGeaTPXXtUqZEQMMXqIxYVx4MHLax4hsoZRQQaID2heYGJ 9yeEpPENfy7KGT8sewOuHjj3EBmW2TeQ2D7LPifyImRWcku+ADv2ZZ+LfG3y/wYDDNFX ita8F3jVzqL27o8QiRX84OiWpVLygA0UduRtA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references:x-google-sender-auth; b=SBFaMJX7CKPTggbnmX31YE80/xBu7tqTLas4uETpqyeO0BYI3+HWgB0CTr7AyySww4 NsVINN0OM2Oj3lPQZLWpuZWJd40EMt33sv2llp7sNCtBRiic7FaVrR1+HzGXhdSJ93y9 jLcaDDjjcb3NiP3m5SVMkkw/voXaRW7fAtGUQ= Message-ID: <9ab0c76f0810011343w3b7ebab4s5555b712370382c8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:43:07 +0200 From: "mark francombe" Sender: markfrancombe@gmail.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Mobius first impressions... and questions. In-Reply-To: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144C3512FEFD@barq.sailpoint.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_69400_17494290.1222893787797" References: <9ab0c76f0809301259k23a7d057xeea78c428d88ebcb@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144C3512FD7C@barq.sailpoint.com> <9ab0c76f0809301411o5964720dmb4ebb63428bbf43b@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144C3512FDBE@barq.sailpoint.com> <9ab0c76f0809301526s74b5f18ob7b897a0f0b083e4@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144C3512FEFD@barq.sailpoint.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 541ad179681bd46c Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84133 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 20:43:09 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_69400_17494290.1222893787797 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Yes Jeff, when in Trim mode, you cant really do anything else. you can come out of trim and record an overdub on just that section, then when you go back into Trim and ... er... UN-trim sure enough that section has your overdub. It works, and would be a good solution if its not possible to do anthing else. Its just a bit "clunky" on repeater, interface-wise. If you could do this trim stuff via midi (I suggest a cc for start, one for end, and one for moving both at the same time- preferably with some kind of 8ths quantise) then one could do this quickly move back to overdub, with a hit of that switch, and back to trim. The fact that you cant do both at the same time would be a negligable problem, that would probably only be possible via scripts anyhow. anyway... that would do my head in!!! But look at the Tyme Sefari thing, by harvestman... its crazy!!! > > So it's non-destructive start/end points like you see in "DJ" oriented > sample players? > > I'd like to add more of these kinds of "playing the loop" features, > but the architectural issue I have is what happens when you do this > while you are overdubbing or feedback decaying and how this fits in > with undo. > > You say the Repeater has to be in "Trim Mode", does this make it behave > more like a static sample player with no undoable loop modifications > allowed? > > One option would be to put the loop into "lockdown" mode where you > can trim, slip, pitch, window shift, and retrigger all you want but > nothing you do is undoable and you can't be overdubbing or applying > feedback at the same time. Then the moment you start Overdub or any other > destructive modification the loop is "unlocked", whatever was last > playing becomes the new loop, and we resume the undoable layer > list as usual. > > Jeff > > -- www.markfrancombe.com http://uk.youtube.com/user/markfrancombe http://www.myspace.com/markfrancombe www.looop.no ------=_Part_69400_17494290.1222893787797 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline

Yes Jeff, when in Trim mode, you cant really do anything else. you can come out of trim and record an overdub on just that section, then when you go back into Trim and ... er... UN-trim sure enough that section has your overdub. It works, and would be a good solution if its not possible to do anthing else. Its just a bit "clunky" on repeater, interface-wise. If you could do this trim stuff via midi (I suggest a cc for start, one for end, and one for moving both at the same time- preferably with some kind of 8ths quantise) then one could do this quickly move back to overdub, with a hit of that switch, and back to trim. The fact that you cant do both at the same time would be a negligable problem, that would probably only be possible via scripts anyhow. anyway... that would do my head in!!! But look at the Tyme Sefari thing, by harvestman... its crazy!!!

So it's non-destructive start/end points like you see in "DJ" oriented
sample players?

I'd like to add more of these kinds of "playing the loop" features,
but the architectural issue I have is what happens when you do this
while you are overdubbing or feedback decaying and how this fits in
with undo.

You say the Repeater has to be in "Trim Mode", does this make it behave
more like a static sample player with no undoable loop modifications
allowed?

One option would be to put the loop into "lockdown" mode where you
can trim, slip, pitch, window shift, and retrigger all you want but
nothing you do is undoable and you can't be overdubbing or applying
feedback at the same time.  Then the moment you start Overdub or any other
destructive modification the loop is "unlocked", whatever was last
playing becomes the new loop, and we resume the undoable layer
list as usual.

Jeff




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www.looop.no
------=_Part_69400_17494290.1222893787797-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 1 20:51:03 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 23EBB3BE91; Wed, 1 Oct 2008 20:51:03 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=Jexh2ViURzAyNlb5As56/dtejRRrqBX7R3luEtV7GdA=; b=VLbA2QHj2+4bk3yg0F2TTIU3EZvM6BrP9TRxtl5/npYgo6odpTtrEMAa7xZsM36h0B XC5vVX5+qOe7mBEARN/hAVZyHEUcjVW7MvUCTCKZxCLMhXeE2js4s+caS8dWUMGEW76d NvspGop0t9J6Pswb3cpbVOW+hidRhzBCZIlfA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=m4ZTbSzTRu5ISPOZaRNLJaAJTYEBVGfypScnEEpT+rkc8Wv642SiW3NQoUGP9eqwpG IWoL890tgrrLl+h21rsSSxI3uqzfeAz8ORNDPQC3Ca/k/K+vMcxwkpHB/3nhwhwmQqim l5mHUYvf+Bhdl6z8aLOUcuAUE57BSp5YHT864= Message-ID: Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 16:51:01 -0400 From: "Dennis Moser" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: OT: Myspace music play count desaster In-Reply-To: <91d8478b0810011046w1ad5a682vcb95d4cc8e5f0622@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_5356_7762403.1222894261407" References: <48E3B4E6.10706@addcom.de> <91d8478b0810011046w1ad5a682vcb95d4cc8e5f0622@mail.gmail.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84134 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 20:51:03 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_5356_7762403.1222894261407 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline (Laughing as I write this) I didn't know they'd done that ... I stopped looking at the play counts years ago ... Dennis On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Jean-Paul De Roover wrote: > The issues with Myspace are in the process of being resolved. If you > read the blogs on 'Tom's page, you'll see that they are well aware of > the issue. All play counts are still being recorded, but as they > transfer over the information, some of it might not be represented > fully yet. > > As of a few days, my play count diminished by about 8,000 plays, but > yesterday it returned to it's full value (still keeping track of how > many plays had come in that day). > > Don't worry, they're working on it. > > On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 1:35 PM, Stefan Tiedje > wrote: > > jayrope looper's delight schrieb: > >> > >> This is eventually a musician survival issue. > > > > My advice for musicians/artists survival, don't whine about those who > don't > > listen to your music. If the number of plays is more important than the > > music itself, I would feel being on the wrong planet and would rather fly > to > > a different one... ;-) > > > > Are there other alternatives to MySpace than Facebook? It "feels" already > > better than the sucker of the evil land of mordor, but its still not what > I > > would imagine... > > > > Murdoch is sucking your creative input, to increase the money in his > already > > huge pocket. This isn't bad as such, but I'd prefer to participate at > least. > > Still waiting for a community sort of competition to wipe out the dark > ages > > and fill the world with light again... ;-) > > > > Most musicians I know use MySpace solely for pointing to their own site, > > which seems quite successful btw... > > (And it instantly looks a billion times better than any MySpace design > could > > ever be...) > > > > Stefan > > > > -- > > Stefan Tiedje------------x------- > > --_____-----------|-------------- > > --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()------- > > -- _|_)----|-----()-------------- > > ----------()--------www.ccmix.com > > > > > > > > -- > Jean-Paul De Roover > www.jeanpaulderoover.com > > -- http://myspace.com/usrsbin http://audiozoloft.com http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/ ------=_Part_5356_7762403.1222894261407 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
(Laughing as I write this)

I didn't know they'd done that ... I stopped looking at the play counts years ago ...

Dennis

On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 1:46 PM, Jean-Paul De Roover <j.de.roover@gmail.com> wrote:
The issues with Myspace are in the process of being resolved.  If you
read the blogs on 'Tom's page, you'll see that they are well aware of
the issue.  All play counts are still being recorded, but as they
transfer over the information, some of it might not be represented
fully yet.

As of a few days, my play count diminished by about 8,000 plays, but
yesterday it returned to it's full value (still keeping track of how
many plays had come in that day).

Don't worry, they're working on it.

On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 1:35 PM, Stefan Tiedje <Stefan-Tiedje@addcom.de> wrote:
> jayrope looper's delight schrieb:
>>
>> This is eventually a musician survival issue.
>
> My advice for musicians/artists survival, don't whine about those who don't
> listen to your music. If the number of plays is more important than the
> music itself, I would feel being on the wrong planet and would rather fly to
> a different one... ;-)
>
> Are there other alternatives to MySpace than Facebook? It "feels" already
> better than the sucker of the evil land of mordor, but its still not what I
> would imagine...
>
> Murdoch is sucking your creative input, to increase the money in his already
> huge pocket. This isn't bad as such, but I'd prefer to participate at least.
> Still waiting for a community sort of competition to wipe out the dark ages
> and fill the world with light again... ;-)
>
> Most musicians I know use MySpace solely for pointing to their own site,
> which seems quite successful btw...
> (And it instantly looks a billion times better than any MySpace design could
> ever be...)
>
> Stefan
>
> --
> Stefan Tiedje------------x-------
> --_____-----------|--------------
> --(_|_ ----|\-----|-----()-------
> -- _|_)----|-----()--------------
> ----------()--------www.ccmix.com
>
>



--
Jean-Paul De Roover
www.jeanpaulderoover.com




--
http://myspace.com/usrsbin
http://audiozoloft.com
http://usrslashsbin.angrek.com/
------=_Part_5356_7762403.1222894261407-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 1 21:09:51 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E1C233BE84; Wed, 1 Oct 2008 21:09:50 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 938872.85852.bm@omp404.mail.mud.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=ZBCOV7AHrd8+5/w0iAjEmifROJASJnXm4R60BMq8jrJWY4GPnfZXO4zlymTs+6jLDJR5zwcfSaffeKgLxARpiH32DGaDoyQ7ttiNT1LotKt1R7DORcaNPRqeKYQMGlfxfwxg9UY+WHDmVSQV+235GsrDXNbjpMLDbLgckuyNEaE=; X-YMail-OSG: 6Rr2qKwVM1nejd14pNWgDL1tzrWaf1.FVDdgIyBuiXwvqO8Zqebwd2EAz_G0DAgYoB2MgTMl.LeTu2tXsmZRsbCrUxHDSNW9Cq2Qo5By_ouWNFYc4znB2sgwfBx0Kn4LMEtvbsvOVsUNTl4Ue8DfBg_wNfIxenTjcMhgXs7veBAOq9M.iGQ- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 14:09:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Nelson Reply-To: psychle62@yahoo.com Subject: list reply-to weirdness involving yahoo mail To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <23447.7925.qm@web45314.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <337027.22283.qm@web45315.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84135 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 21:09:50 +0000 (UTC) Sorry about the OT-ishness, but I'm wondering if any other listmembers using Yahoo mail addresses have had/resolved this situation: I just got an email from Matthias informing me that my 'reply-to' setting points back to my address rather than to the list. Upon investigation, he's right; it sure does. But my posts USED to go back to the list, and I haven't changed any settings. Investigating further, it seems my posts before June have the correct 'reply-to', while those since July don't. I know Yahoo has made some changes ('new' mail vs. 'classic'), but again, I haven't changed any settings, and looking through many pages of Yahoo Mail FAQs I've found no way to fix it. Has this happened to anyone else? -t- http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes http://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson http://www.youtube.com/speleman62 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 1 22:13:38 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1A5DA3BE93; Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:13:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 18:13:24 EDT Subject: way ot question about MYSPACE To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_ce8.40b4b75f.36155004_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag:NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84136 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:13:37 +0000 (UTC) --part1_ce8.40b4b75f.36155004_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit my entire creative life is based on myspace.....not.....:).....but i have read the boards and sent them questions and i can not resolve this problem, i.e.: when i click on the "blue" words, like, "NEXT" as in page or "update".....nothing happens.....i tried to upload some new tunes and they appear on my profile but do not show up on my player......some things work, others do not.....i use an older eMAC and i have checked all the settings but to no avail.....please respond off list and help out this "stupid" american.....how can i play THE BIG ROOM when i can't even get MYSPACE to work properly?.....yikes!.....what a mess!.....my o.s. is OS X 10.3.9.....and when i try to mail TOM, i keep getting an "away from desk" message.....sorry to bug yinz.....michael "AMERICANS ARN'T STUPID".....BARACK OBAMA new groovy tunes at: http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 www.ct-collective.com ************** Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? 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(http://www.walletpop.com/?NCI= D=3Demlcntuswall00000001) --part1_ce8.40b4b75f.36155004_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 1 22:15:50 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id F41BD3BE98; Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:15:49 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=E8O/Xl/tg553sr/g0O8NkVMFzm5Kr8KN7irw5D/rygg2u9QfQ1qk5js6ll1HdVmeDRB4YdJKDMJMrnJmjZXbhxGl1p3H+8VGqshdZmx5FcMppUS/ZPwIqCFxLu5Z3b8OmmoBO7FGFxRGKwAYc2Gg/lbLgrUA+etOGkTHWDgZeEo=; X-YMail-OSG: OlQxSKQVM1k_pS2HqkuPVjt7QNYX5fY1xKP.j6QIiz60XUK.1z6clnb0IkMXOBlt7yzdNEtOMAjERxal6_JUx2vvQD85IL4UYfTY7KvT09fAAuLQsAQVG6M901ocHuQPcYNh5sdVXwbgqjnivSI1pc16U6w8O1iBJ9c1.NkgDQS9OKNAqg-- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 15:15:49 -0700 (PDT) From: George Ludwig Reply-To: sfmissionman@yahoo.com Subject: Re: list reply-to weirdness involving yahoo mail To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <337027.22283.qm@web45315.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <232072.31942.qm@web50310.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84137 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:15:49 +0000 (UTC) I have the same problem. I've been through the yahoo setup screens and haven't found any appropriate settings to change. --- On Wed, 10/1/08, Tim Nelson wrote: > From: Tim Nelson > Subject: list reply-to weirdness involving yahoo mail > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 2:09 PM > Sorry about the OT-ishness, but I'm wondering if any > other listmembers using Yahoo mail addresses have > had/resolved this situation: > > I just got an email from Matthias informing me that my > 'reply-to' setting points back to my address rather > than to the list. Upon investigation, he's right; it > sure does. > > But my posts USED to go back to the list, and I haven't > changed any settings. > > Investigating further, it seems my posts before June have > the correct 'reply-to', while those since July > don't. I know Yahoo has made some changes ('new' > mail vs. 'classic'), but again, I haven't > changed any settings, and looking through many pages of > Yahoo Mail FAQs I've found no way to fix it. > > Has this happened to anyone else? > > -t- > > http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes > http://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson > http://www.youtube.com/speleman62 From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 1 22:28:55 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 0B55B3BE9E; Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:28:55 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-Id: <9374636C-DF5E-4361-A294-20D474CF9974@atarde.com.br> From: Matthias Grob To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144C3512FEFD@barq.sailpoint.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: Re: Mobius first impressions... and questions. Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 19:28:17 -0300 References: <9ab0c76f0809301259k23a7d057xeea78c428d88ebcb@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144C3512FD7C@barq.sailpoint.com> <9ab0c76f0809301411o5964720dmb4ebb63428bbf43b@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144C3512FDBE@barq.sailpoint.com> <9ab0c76f0809301526s74b5f18ob7b897a0f0b083e4@mail.gmail.com> <7872203368197C4691224688958BE7144C3512FEFD@barq.sailpoint.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at atarde.com.br Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84138 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:28:54 +0000 (UTC) I am not quite sure for this case, but in general I think its easier to understand different tracks with different functions you are going this direction anyway, having different presets and possibly different instruments for each track, so each track has a musical function like : ostinato bass rhythm fill crossrhythm harmony noise choir with the suitable setting, effect etc. so there could be a track set to trim and if needed, sound can be copied from it to another track for further treatment - as if it switches its musical function > I'd like to add more of these kinds of "playing the loop" features, > but the architectural issue I have is what happens when you do this > while you are overdubbing or feedback decaying and how this fits in > with undo. > > You say the Repeater has to be in "Trim Mode", does this make it > behave > more like a static sample player with no undoable loop modifications > allowed? > > One option would be to put the loop into "lockdown" mode where you > can trim, slip, pitch, window shift, and retrigger all you want but > nothing you do is undoable and you can't be overdubbing or applying > feedback at the same time. Then the moment you start Overdub or any > other > destructive modification the loop is "unlocked", whatever was last > playing becomes the new loop, and we resume the undoable layer > list as usual. > > Jeff > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 1 23:01:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id E7B2A3BE93; Wed, 1 Oct 2008 23:01:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: <912a41e1dad6a1037999220763925405.squirrel@webmail.helpwantedproductions.com> <23447.7925.qm@web45314.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <266daee63d652b7e65363c6b6a42969a.squirrel@webmail.helpwantedproductions.com> <190c73362b10d7d79ae04c35a659bd5c.squirrel@webmail.helpwantedproductions.com> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 16:01:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Help needed: Pic of EH Microsynth insides... From: legion@helpwantedproductions.com To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Resent-Message-ID: <1g3Xo.A.JqH.TFA5IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84139 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 23:01:39 +0000 (UTC) thank you VERY much. One quick question: at the jacks only two prong? With the board facing you (like in the pictures) what color cables are going to the left jack? I can see ablue one but can't make out the other color or where it is going? thanks! D_ > here you go > http://www.box.net/shared/v85s2izgj1 > > took them with my phone on macro, so i hope they're ok > > i couldn't remove the upper circuit board, because the wires were too > short, > but the only wire that is attached to it is the brown one and i took a > shot > of where it's attached from above > > all the best > > sim > > On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 5:22 PM, Simeon Harris < > simeonharris40@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> yeah, that's what you need...one of them (couldn't remember the name of >> it). also means the big red light comes on only when you hit the switch >> - >> neat >> >> >> On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 5:16 PM, >> wrote: >> >>> That sounds great. I actually have a few 3DPT switches for making stuff >>> true bypass so that would be a nice bonus :) >>> >>> thanks again >>> >>> D_ >>> >>> >>> >>> > ok mate, no problem - first thing tomorrow >>> > btw - i had mine true bypassed, which is pretty essential, imo, so >>> that >>> > when the unit is "off" your dry signal isn't running through the >>> internal preamp >>> > >>> > pics soon >>> > >>> > sim >>> >>> >>> >>> > On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 5:08 PM, >>> wrote: >>> > >>> >> That would be GREATLY appreciated! >>> >> >>> >> What I need is a clear shot of the circuit board showing where the >>> three >>> >> wires that end up in the jacks are and then I need a shot of the >>> Switch >>> >> and jacks showing where the wires come from and where they go. >>> >> >>> >> I *think* I have the wires on the circuit board right but clearly >>> I'm >>> >> bypassing the effect due to the wrong wiring on the switch and/or >>> the >>> >> jacks. >>> >> >>> >> Thank you very much for any help! >>> >> >>> >> David >>> >> >>> > >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ------------------------------------------------ >>> Weird, Scary, and Beautiful Music and Art: >>> Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com >>> >>> >> > -- ------------------------------------------------ Weird, Scary, and Beautiful Music and Art: Http://www.HelpWantedProductions.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 1 23:04:04 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 493973BE93; Wed, 1 Oct 2008 23:04:04 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <20081001190359.KXH2S.420111.root@mp06> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 16:03:59 -0700 From: =?utf-8?Q?tEd_=C2=AE_kiLLiAn?= To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: way ot question about MYSPACE Cc: Nemoguitt@aol.com In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: X-Chzlrs: 0 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84140 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 23:04:04 +0000 (UTC) Klobie, I also am using an older (non-Inte) Mac laptop for my MySpace stuff and eve= rything else. Try using a different browser. Download Mozilla's FireFox. It work much better than Safari. A lot of the features on MySpace that you want to etit cannot be done from = older versions of Safari. But you can still download FireFox for MacOSX 10.3 and it works like a char= m. Try it you'll like it. Navigation and some buttons are a little different - heck the features and = tools are just different. But it is a good browser and it wll help you update your MySpace page a lit= tle easier. BTW, this doesn't mean you have to throw away or dicard Safari. Keep 'em both in your "Dock" and just us FireFox only when you want to work= on you MySace page if that's what you want. Hope this helps. tEd =C2=AE kiLLiAn Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you = didn=E2=80=99t do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. S= ail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore= . Dream. Discover. - Mark Twain http://www.pfmentum.com/PFMCD007.html http://www.CDbaby.com/cd/tedkillian http://www.guitar9.com/fluxaeterna.html http://www.indiejazz.com/ProductDetailsView.aspx?ProductID=3D193 http://guitarplayer.com/article/y2k6-international-live/Jun-07/27768 Ted Killian's "Flux Aeterna" is also available at Apple iTunes ---- Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote:=20 > my entire creative life is based on myspace.....not.....:).....but i have= =20 > read the boards and sent them questions and i can not resolve this proble= m, i.e.:=20 > when i click on the "blue" words, like, "NEXT" as in page or=20 > "update".....nothing happens.....i tried to upload some new tunes and the= y appear on my=20 > profile but do not show up on my player......some things work, others do = not.....i=20 > use an older eMAC and i have checked all the settings but to no=20 > avail.....please respond off list and help out this "stupid" american....= .how can i play THE=20 > BIG ROOM when i can't even get MYSPACE to work properly?.....yikes!.....w= hat a=20 > mess!.....my o.s. is OS X 10.3.9.....and when i try to mail TOM, i keep= =20 > getting an "away from desk" message.....sorry to bug yinz.....michael >=20 > "AMERICANS ARN'T STUPID".....BARACK OBAMA >=20 > new groovy tunes at: > http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 > www.ct-collective.com >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > ************** > Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial=20 > challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tip= s and=20 > calculators. > (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=3Demlcntuswall00000001) From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 1 23:09:41 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7EACC3BE90; Wed, 1 Oct 2008 23:09:41 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 272485.9520.bm@omp415.mail.mud.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=vmSvTpJ5Z1YEsD1YJla4FjdfgvRTu8N2QrNiaEOEdE11dkihymEDdOfITep9EHys0jgg+VzIGXKnKKHyEJrIXa5feGc1g0sGu1FgZ4vzv1XfQ8GqztoeB4SHzjnyD3LiWl5a2LRzFYaq/5DihgzPVtoDl/m+tAB0c77hwIbw0NY=; X-YMail-OSG: T43AbdEVM1l7z10KJe0awYgKD1YDlssiSa1x.NBcqHbA2HF7rFmJzzXpKjHrpW2szCzXsqn.4n._lgSeK4SQK6BLFtZxGeBF.CBjx2nYnuZ_pXpeO1IfZ.Gk9JGseEeND1bhKLzI2IBhs4tcUEpb9nyui_lT3d7EgseCq_97yZgSVeLdEF9mLyYp5aEtrpk9gIFNoJc- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 16:09:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Nelson Reply-To: psychle62@yahoo.com Subject: Re: list reply-to weirdness involving yahoo mail To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <232072.31942.qm@web50310.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <707631.70897.qm@web45314.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84141 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 23:09:41 +0000 (UTC) And then there's this from the LD list info page: "replies are set to automatically go back to the list, so please check the address if you want to reply to somebody privately." (From the 'posting guidelines' paragraph at ) Maybe unsub, resub? -t- ps: I did finally find the 'reply' option at Yahoo buried several pages down, but it appears that option would point every reply to every non-LD message to the list, and we don't want that, do we? http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes http://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson http://www.youtube.com/speleman62 --- On Wed, 10/1/08, George Ludwig wrote: > From: George Ludwig > Subject: Re: list reply-to weirdness involving yahoo mail > To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 6:15 PM > I have the same problem. I've been through the yahoo > setup screens and haven't found any appropriate settings > to change. From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Wed Oct 1 23:43:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3E5E93BE94; Wed, 1 Oct 2008 23:43:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com From: Nemoguitt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 19:43:33 EDT Subject: Re: way ot question about MYSPACE To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_bfe.4ab14a53.36156525_boundary" X-Mailer: Thunderbird - Mac OS X sub 293 X-Spam-Flag:NO Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84142 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 23:43:37 +0000 (UTC) --part1_bfe.4ab14a53.36156525_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit thanks ted and travis!!!!!.....firefox allows me to operate myspace whereas safari limited me.....yipeeee!.....what a group of buck-a-roos!.....michael "AMERICANS ARN'T STUPID".....BARACK OBAMA new groovy tunes at: http://www.myspace.com/klobuchar10 www.ct-collective.com ************** Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001) --part1_bfe.4ab14a53.36156525_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable thanks ted and travis!!!!!.....firefox=20= allows me to operate myspace whereas safari limited me.....yipeeee!.....what= a group of buck-a-roos!.....michael

"AMERICANS ARN'T STUPID".....BARACK OBAMA

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www.ct-collective.com





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(http://www.walletpop.com/?NCI= D=3Demlcntuswall00000001) --part1_bfe.4ab14a53.36156525_boundary-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 00:46:40 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 276E03BE93; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 00:46:39 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48E419EB.3080209@servingpeace.com> Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 17:46:35 -0700 From: Sam Nilsson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Macintosh/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: psychle62@yahoo.com CC: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: list reply-to weirdness involving yahoo mail References: <707631.70897.qm@web45314.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <707631.70897.qm@web45314.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84143 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 00:46:39 +0000 (UTC) Hi Tim and everyone, This issue has been discussed here before and those messages can be found in the list archives. Here's the deal as I understand and remember it: The LD mailing list software adds a Reply-To: header to messages before forwarding them to the list. This header contains the loopers-delight mailing list address. That way replies go to the list. The problem is that the mailing list software will not replace an existing Reply-To header, nor will it add a new one if that header already exists in a message. The only way that the software can do its job correctly is if the messages that you send to the list do not contain a Reply-To: header. That means in your webmail or mail client you need to make sure that the Reply-To setting in your LD account is blank. Most people don't need to use a Reply-To address in their email configuration, and you should be able to set your yahoo email account to not use it. Peace, - Sam Nilsson Tim Nelson wrote: > And then there's this from the LD list info page: "replies are set to automatically go back to the list, so please check the address if you want to reply to somebody privately." (From the 'posting guidelines' paragraph at ) > > Maybe unsub, resub? > > -t- > > ps: I did finally find the 'reply' option at Yahoo buried several pages down, but it appears that option would point every reply to every non-LD message to the list, and we don't want that, do we? > > http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes > http://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson > http://www.youtube.com/speleman62 > > > --- On Wed, 10/1/08, George Ludwig wrote: > >> From: George Ludwig >> Subject: Re: list reply-to weirdness involving yahoo mail >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com >> Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 6:15 PM >> I have the same problem. I've been through the yahoo >> setup screens and haven't found any appropriate settings >> to change. > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 00:51:37 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1F7C23BE94; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 00:51:37 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 3612 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 00:51:36 UTC Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 19:51:14 -0400 From: Scott Duncan Subject: Re: way ot question about MYSPACE In-reply-to: To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: <1158BFC1-7F02-48CA-B15C-840C96550E2C@webworkz.com> MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-10--215261386 References: Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84144 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 00:51:37 +0000 (UTC) --Apple-Mail-10--215261386 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Oct 1, 2008, at 7:43 PM, Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote: > thanks ted and travis!!!!!.....firefox allows me to operate myspace > whereas safari limited me.....yipeeee!.....what a group of buck-a- > roos!.....michael > "AMERICANS ARN'T STUPID".....BARACK OBAMA Is that a dilbertrate typo in the quote? (.....but we ain't exactly smart either... ie -- elections) --Apple-Mail-10--215261386 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
On Oct 1, 2008, at 7:43 PM, Nemoguitt@aol.com wrote:

thanks ted and travis!!!!!.....firefox = allows me to operate myspace whereas safari limited = me.....yipeeee!.....what a group of buck-a-roos!.....michael

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"AMERICANS = ARN'T STUPID".....BARACK OBAMA

Is that a dilbertrate typo in the quote? =A0(.....but we ain't = exactly smart either... =A0 =A0ie -- elections)
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= --Apple-Mail-10--215261386-- From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 01:00:54 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id CAA213BE80; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 01:00:54 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: loopers-delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 797645.17442.bm@omp407.mail.sp1.yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=b2Wj12icSTkpG/t2kCOhdTbidVm+EZ7qy5wFudPj0oOhKF1h1XPwgYGh32E8baSWDtFJuiv8XhCwozGFfaHds55V6AiA9bFomw+4Bay8+B0/I5xO0zrpYvQKr3KID9IOT9WhrOnF9naxFWk8HwSkZvdIM0ODZ/wLWEussdtxchU=; X-YMail-OSG: WL7Y_UwVM1lxSf52I9R05RSNPmlwHmMjuTS5Qo4HMpu2VKr3B7txUPL9JMb7bJBZZxxRaX0jwlkxr93PHJ_2Eodm4DRN2kh9uw_XvSmn6ULaMPQT9kl3CEvx.gfzkIMnHtMgYR911.PVU01wgVR1Oh91gp9DN2miHsDfud2OuKD3I3bZ_mY- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 18:00:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Tim Nelson Reply-To: psychle62@yahoo.com Subject: Re: list reply-to weirdness involving yahoo mail To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <48E419EB.3080209@servingpeace.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <695035.76863.qm@web45301.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84145 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 01:00:54 +0000 (UTC) Hi Sam, Yes, that's what I was getting at in the PS of my last post: the reply-to setting in my Yahoo account IS blank. Nothing is now, nor has ever been entered into the blank field. Yet something caused the settings which had been working just fine for several years to work differently. -t- http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes http://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson http://www.youtube.com/speleman62 --- On Wed, 10/1/08, Sam Nilsson wrote: > From: Sam Nilsson > Subject: Re: list reply-to weirdness involving yahoo mail > To: psychle62@yahoo.com > Cc: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 8:46 PM > Hi Tim and everyone, > > This issue has been discussed here before and those > messages can be > found in the list archives. Here's the deal as I > understand and remember it: > > The LD mailing list software adds a Reply-To: header to > messages before > forwarding them to the list. This header contains the > loopers-delight > mailing list address. That way replies go to the list. > > The problem is that the mailing list software will not > replace an > existing Reply-To header, nor will it add a new one if that > header > already exists in a message. > > The only way that the software can do its job correctly is > if the > messages that you send to the list do not contain a > Reply-To: header. > That means in your webmail or mail client you need to make > sure that the > Reply-To setting in your LD account is blank. > > Most people don't need to use a Reply-To address in > their email > configuration, and you should be able to set your yahoo > email account to > not use it. > > Peace, > - Sam Nilsson > > Tim Nelson wrote: > > And then there's this from the LD list info page: > "replies are set to automatically go back to the list, > so please check the address if you want to reply to somebody > privately." (From the 'posting guidelines' > paragraph at > ) > > > > Maybe unsub, resub? > > > > -t- > > > > ps: I did finally find the 'reply' option at > Yahoo buried several pages down, but it appears that option > would point every reply to every non-LD message to the list, > and we don't want that, do we? > > > > http://www.myspace.com/nimbletunes > > http://cdbaby.com/all/timnelson > > http://www.youtube.com/speleman62 > > > > > > --- On Wed, 10/1/08, George Ludwig > wrote: > > > >> From: George Ludwig > >> Subject: Re: list reply-to weirdness involving > yahoo mail > >> To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com > >> Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 6:15 PM > >> I have the same problem. I've been through the > yahoo > >> setup screens and haven't found any > appropriate settings > >> to change. > > > > > > > > From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 02:08:29 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7535B3BE99; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 02:08:29 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 22:01:16 -0400 From: "Emile Tobenfeld (a.k.a Dr. T)" Subject: Midi envelope generator To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84146 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 02:08:29 +0000 (UTC) Hi, I keep thinking I could use a hardware midi envelope generator, something that had, say, 4 sliders for ADSR, a switch for looping, a slider for loop rate and a push button trigger. Does such a device exist? -- "The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in the mind at the same time, and still retain the ability to function." F. Scott Fitzgerald Emile Tobenfeld, Ph. D. Video Producer and Digital Photographer Image Processing Specialist Video for your HEAD! Boris FX http://www.foryourhead.com http://www.borisfx.com My photography can be viewed at http://www.flickr.com/photos/22231918@N06/collections/72157603627170351/ From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 02:22:34 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id DEBAF3BE94; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 02:22:34 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48E4306E.5090806@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 19:22:38 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" Subject: OT tractor drum loop Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84147 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 02:22:34 +0000 (UTC) Check out this physical looped drum machine...........pretty cool! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1ThSi1wbqU From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 02:32:35 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B7FEA3BE97; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 02:32:35 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com X-Greylist: delayed 2091 seconds by postgrey-1.27 at arsenic; Thu, 02 Oct 2008 02:32:35 UTC Message-Id: <46B2C217-C564-4B59-A773-30CD89A21027@batterycage.com> From: tyler newman To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com In-Reply-To: <20081002010055.695553BE98@arsenic.violacea.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Subject: repeater OS 2.0 Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 18:57:37 -0700 References: <20081002010055.695553BE98@arsenic.violacea.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Resent-Message-ID: <3PcmkC.A.ALC.DLD5IB@arsenic> Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84148 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 02:32:35 +0000 (UTC) hi- now that Electrix is no more...is there any way to get this OS anymore? i'm happy to pay for it, but don't know where to do so... any input would be quite helpful. thanks! - tyler / battery cage - www.batterycage.com From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 03:04:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 9B5163BE93; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 03:04:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com Message-ID: <48E43A0B.4000506@cruzio.com> Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 20:03:39 -0700 From: Rick Walker User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: KEVIN KISSINGER , JIM GOODIN -China Painting , "ISAAC (electric shovel) FRANKLE" , GOH NAKUMURA , "DARYL SHAWN (china painting)" , BILL WALKER , BILL PUTNAM , JACK SCHULTZ , JONATHAN KESSLER , JEFF SLOAN , GLENN SMITH , CHRIS COHN , UNITY NGUYEN , PETER COR , JD DEVROS , TRAVIS LUND , ROBERTO ZORZI , RYUSEI HATTORI , MANDO-MAN , BARRY CLEVELAND , RICK WALKER , GENIE , KALIMBA MAN , MATT HERMAN , MATT DAVIGNON , MARGARET NOBLE , JAMES BAILEY , BOB AMSTADT , JORDIE TOPF , GREG POWERS , "LARRY the 'O'" , KOOROSH DARYAIE , DAN & THERESA SOLTZBERG , STAN CARD , DANIEL THOMAS , LUIS ANGULO , CARL WEINGARTEN , ERIC GLICK RIEMAN , "LINDSEY WALKER (newbie looper)" , CPR aka Chris Roberts , KRISPEN HARTUNG , GARY REGINA , TED KILLIAN , MARK HAMBURG , "AMAR CHAUDHARY. PHD" , PETER KNUDSEN , BOB BEEDE , JRJ , "LOOPERS DELIGHT (posting)" , "Y2K8LOOPFEST@yahoo.com" , "PURPLEHAND@ hotmail.c" , RICK WALKER , KRISPEN HARTUNG , TED KILLIAN Subject: Y2K8 FULL COLOR COMMEMORATIVE T-SHIRT orders open for this week only Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84149 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 03:04:44 +0000 (UTC) The Artwork for this year's festival really has turned out so nicely that we've decided to offer a t-shirt to commemorate the festival. Ted Killian our wonderful and generous artist (and performer) has made a deal to have really high quality full color reproduction of the poster on a t-shirt. Because of a new printing technology, we can only offer the t-shirt in white with a pretty large graphic on it and we would like to get people who are interested to commit to buying one before we order them. The t-shirts will cost $20 for all sizes and $22 for XX and XXX sizes. Proceed will go towards paying our generous volunteer staff at the festival due to the lack of donations for this year's festival because of the economy. In fact, if anyone is feeling generous, we will accept small donations this year so that we can pay our staff like we did last year for the first time. These people work for 30 hours of the festival.........it's an intense labor of love. Anyone interested should e-mail me immediately with a committment to buy a shirt. We can exchange money and t-shirts at the entrance to the festival on Friday, Saturday or Sunday. We won't be mailing anyone t-shirts so we'll have to make exchanges at the festival. Let Ted and I know by putting Y2K8 T-SHIRT in the subject line as an indication that you promise to buy one of these shirts. We don't have enough funds to do any overruns so we'll only order shirts now. Thanks a lot, everyone.............looking forward to seeing you all soon. yours, Rick From Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Thu Oct 2 03:27:44 2008 Return-Path: X-Original-To: looparc@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+looparc@arsenic.violacea.com Received: by arsenic.violacea.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A74273BE95; Thu, 2 Oct 2008 03:27:44 +0000 (UTC) Old-Return-Path: X-Original-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Delivered-To: looper+loopers-delight@arsenic.violacea.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=U+Af8y7FJYJEBEBNL38crIQU80hN5KS3ieCk5qOMvRY=; b=flvrL7HNMM02n3vXK895KFg8UVBsfGkeF3Xah/6kFToY/+GE13brwDmFwNiof8Y+zh GeZibIKSXTVkdtbzWHc2u+v75lUwedVVVyhoD/bQDhM9Bv/n9wXtPZNjo4/B4jz/Nq7K ZWxibrZXw4LzNYAtHdhgYcrVd2yfBlMWNibpw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=ZsuadFoTmXxn2TIxJnxWs1+791dHmnljKqCL94HYKcjLXzgeZnoxnMHmUzPG0AOhoq 5ZY0iuh5778F3gxd1DZIth8qfgk533ks+X3wyp/GMyszdwnYBQfEIRuktocjkNcDYqlh p4IcPI9LIBc33wYR8c6jOn/FCpP9HSePvJDTo= Message-ID: <1c3a4db00810012027i51b2f5bn4d95e3f41d65593d@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 22:27:43 -0500 From: "marcus kirby" To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Subject: Re: Y2K8 FULL COLOR COMMEMORATIVE T-SHIRT orders open for this week only In-Reply-To: <48E43A0B.4000506@cruzio.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_17990_26469943.1222918063575" References: <48E43A0B.4000506@cruzio.com> Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Reply-To: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/84150 X-Loop: Loopers-Delight@loopers-delight.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: Loopers-Delight-request@loopers-delight.com Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2008 03:27:44 +0000 (UTC) ------=_Part_17990_26469943.1222918063575 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Any pictures of the shirts? On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Rick Walker wrote: > The Artwork for this year's festival really has turned out so nicely > that we've decided to offer a t-shirt to commemorate the festival. > > Ted Killian our wonderful and generous artist (and performer) > has made a deal to have really high quality full color reproduction > of the poster on a t-shirt. > > Because of a new printing technology, we can only offer the t-shirt in > white > with a pretty large graphic on it and we would like to get people who are > interested to commit to buying one before we order them. > > The t-shirts will cost $20 for all sizes > and $22 for XX and XXX sizes. > > Proceed will go towards paying our generous volunteer staff at the > festival due to the lack of donations for this year's festival because > of the economy. > > In fact, if anyone is feeling generous, we will accept small donations > this > year so that we can pay our staff like we did last year for the first time. > > These people work for 30 hours of the festival.........it's an intense > labor of love. > > Anyone interested should e-mail me immediately with > a committment to buy a shirt. > We can exchange money and t-shirts at the entrance to the festival > on Friday, Saturday or Sunday. > > We won't be mailing anyone t-shirts so we'll have to make exchanges at the > festival. > > Let Ted and I know by putting > Y2K8 T-SHIRT in the subject line as an indication that you promise to > buy one of these shirts. > > We don't have enough funds to do any overruns so we'll only order shirts > now. > > Thanks a lot, everyone.............looking forward to seeing you all soon. > > yours, Rick > > ------=_Part_17990_26469943.1222918063575 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
Any pictures of the shirts?

On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Rick Walker <looppool@cruzio.com> wrote:
The Artwork for this year's festival really has turned out so nicely
that we've decided to offer a t-shirt to commemorate the festival.

Ted Killian our wonderful and generous artist (and performer)
has made a deal to have really high quality full color reproduction
of the poster on a t-shirt.

Because of a new printing technology,  we can only offer the t-shirt in white
with a pretty large graphic on it and we would like to get people who are
interested to commit to buying one before we order them.

The t-shirts will cost $20 for all sizes
and $22 for XX and XXX sizes.

Proceed will go towards paying our generous volunteer staff at the
festival due to the lack of donations for this year's festival because
of the economy.

In fact,  if anyone is feeling generous,  we will accept small donations this
year so that we can pay our staff like we did last year for the first time.

These people work for 30 hours of the festival.........it's an intense labor of love.

Anyone interested should e-mail me immediately with
a committment to buy a shirt.
We can exchange money and t-shirts at the entrance to the festival
on Friday, Saturday or Sunday.

We won't be mailing anyone t-shirts so we'll have to make exchanges at the festival.

Let Ted and I know by putting
Y2K8  T-SHIRT   in the subject line as an indication that you promise to buy one of these shirts.

We don't have enough funds to do any overruns so we'll only order shirts now.

Thanks a lot, everyone.............looking forward to seeing you all soon.

yours,  Rick


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