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I think the Loopers web site should carry a page about the history of looping. Matthias' musings article is good for a start, but there should be more details on who did what when how. I'd like to volunteer to collect material and write such a history page (if this is ok with Kim), but looking at the sparse data I have on this subject, I need everybody's support - if you know something about the topic, write me (send private email). Eno's and Fripp's achievements are obvious, but I doubt that the classic tape loop system was actually invented by Eno - I guess someone in the electronic/avantgarde music scene did it, but I'm not sure who. I'd also like to at least point to the minimalists' use of long echo lines (Terry Riley's 'Rainbow in Curved Air' was 1971, 4 years before Discreet Music). -Michael Peters (looping with the Paradis Loop Delay) http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/mpeters/music.htm