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Just thought I'd say hi to everyone, and make a little comment about looping technique. I'm a guitarist, and I use a Lexicon JamMan for looping, as well as a Lexicon Vortex for lots of interesting loop-like work. The Vortex is a really neat little box. Basically, it's just two delays, two modulators, and an envelope follower. Lexicon gives a number of programs putting these effects in various orders, in heavily interactive ways. Many programs feature cross-feedback for the delays, or series delays with feedback loops going from one delay to the other. Tempo is tapped in, like the JamMan, and the delay "time" is actually set as a fraction of the tap. So it's easy to set up consistent polyrhythmic echoes with this thing. Some of the programs also use the envelope follower to modulate delay feedback, either fading out old sounds as new ones come in, or modulating the volume of the echoes relative to the input signal. In other words, it's the most dynamically responsive low-cost rackmount effect I've ever used. Unfortunately, total delay time is limited to around a second. But there are LOTS of cool things you can do with that! I really like using the Vortex to build a short, complex atmospheric sound, and then feeding that into the JamMan and letting it loop and modulate. Here's a technique I use with the JamMan to get a more flexible, improvisational feel from it. When I first got it, I tended to use it to start a loop, then punch in more layers. But what I found was that things just got bigger and louder and bigger and louder. It had a very one-way dynamic. Now, rather than using the looping functions, I usually prefer to just use its delay function. There are 16 delay feedback levels, controlled by the knob on the front. Turn the feedback up high and start looping. At 16, you effectively have infinite repeat. As things build, you can turn the feedback down and let a loop fade, then turn it back up and add more to the loop while the older material floats in the background. This makes for a much more dynamic and rewarding looping improv, I think. I just have two problems now... first, I don't get to do nearly enough looping. I don't have a studio space safe from my two toddler children, and they like to play with knobs altogether too much. The only way I can play is to go through my long setup process after the kids go to bed, and tear it apart before they get up in the morning. Second, I'm primarily an acoustic guitarist, not electric. I don't play electric much and I'm not really comfortable on it. Hopefully, I'll be getting a new acoustic with a pickup soon, and I'll see how that works as a tone source. I rather like the idea of sending the warm, woody sound of an acoustic guitar through my effects and seeing what comes out! Maybe, if I can get my new guitar and build a safe studio space, I'll get better at this. :} By "beauty," I mean that which seems complete. Obversely, that the incomplete, or the mutilated, is the ugly. Venus De Milo. To a child she is ugly. /* dstagner@icarus.leepfrog.com */ -Charles Fort /* http://www.leepfrog.com/~dstagner */