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At 07:06 PM 9/13/96 -0300, you wrote: MATHIAS NOTED THAT I SAID: >studio seventeen productions <ambient@adnc.com> wrote: > >>I recorded and performed for >>five years creating live in-the-moment loops, Bryan looping drum machine >and >>synth with a JamMan and a 16-second delay and myself on energy bow and >>guitar & synth with the setup noted above. >> >>A BAND of loopers as it were! > >Gee, what an old dream! I never really managed. >How did you sync the stuff? >Did you use miked instruments, too? > >Matthias > > MY REPLY: We made no attempt to sync technology wise. Five years of shared playing experience (we played for two years as an acoustic guitar duo working in the new standard tuning for guitar before we mutated into the electronic/ambient looping band BINDLESTIFF) and empathy did the trick. Most pieces started with one of us and the other could join in: however, at no time were our loops similar in any way, duration wise especially. It just WORKED. The best band I've ever been in, bar none (BINDLESTIFF). Generally, we never used miked instruments (except on some studio-ized overdubbed non-live stuff). Sometimes we started together, and prayed we'd stay in sync. Amazingly, in the main, we did. And if not, kill your loop and restart until you are...not too hard with experience. Our setups are completely different: Bryan prefers REVERBING AND EFFECTING HIS SOUNDS and THEN looping them; I prefer looping them and then "treating them" a la ENO. I've often created a loop, and then made five or ten or twenty different recordings of it using the Digitech TSR-24S processor for different rooms, reversals, etc. The fact that we sounded so different helped, yet we PLAYED "together" even though the setups differ wildly. Please check out some of the BINDLESTIFF tracks on our page (address below) this was a remarkable experience to say the least!!! Or email me for a free catalog. The work with Bindlestiff is some of the most important I've undertaken. It freed me of old standard tuning: it freed me from my perfectionistic overdub-it-till-it's dead habit...and now I create (and destroy) loops as Kim was describing...I've often killed loops that were so beautiful it was painful. But you KNOW you can do it better, later... IF NOT, you record them. Maybe processed several different ways... more on this later! thanks for listening dave at studio seventeen 1734516817345168173451681734516817345168173451681734516817345168173451681734 516817345 lead me in with a count of seventeen... (Mr. Blint, Consequences/Godley & Creme) visit: http:www.adnc.com/web/ambient/index.html seventeen: the ambient music page