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On Tue, 17 Sep 1996, Ed Drake wrote: > Andre La Fosse said: > >but there are at least a few unfortunate > >gremlins floating about in the initial version that have caused me a few > >headaches). > Andre -What are some of the gremlins you are talking about? The most problematic for me is that the reverse function has an erratic and unpredictable tendency to introduce a popping noise at the initial loop point, which is generally unremovable. In a transparent loop, this is a real bummer, dude. Beyond that, there's a function called "loop copy" which was apparently not finished in time for the initial shipment of the Oberheim; the slot on the front panel reserved for this function doesn't actually do anything, so you have to use a slightly less direct combination of commands to get this going (although it does work flawlessly when you use it). I've also noticed that the delay mode of the unit tends to be a bit tempramental in terms of how and where it decides to place the loop point. Finally, the storage-to-sequencer operation is a lot more complex than one might initially think; I finally got it working with the right sort of sequencing program (Performer) but it's mighty slow. (This last gripe has less to do with Echoplex problems, I think, and more to do with the evils of MIDI protocol in general). I've talked to Kim about most of these problems, and they look to be solved by the now-legendary Currently Unavailable Echoplex Upgrade. Kim has also made reference (on the Torn list, I think) to a variety of other fairly minor bugs which most of us have hopefully never noticed. (Are there any others we should be on the lookout for, Kim?) I have a suggestion: In order to demonstrate to Oberheim just how much demand there is for the upgrade, perhaps we should initiate an e-mail campaign demanding that the upgrade be released (and at a very reasonable price, since there are at least one or two things mentioned above that were supposed to be a part of the initial, fully-functional unit). > Someone posted (Sorry!) ('Twas me yet again...) > > Echoplexes often aren't as expensive as you'd think. The retail is >about > > $879 for a new unit, but for just over $500 I picked up a brand new >unit > > *plus* the foot controller. > > The store I got it at (Nadine's here in L.A., incidentally one of > > the few places I've found that even stocks the thing) wanted to move >the > > units. > I called the guy at Nadine's after reading your post and talked to the > owner and he said after I told him about the list he quoted me a price >of > $500 for the 12.5 second 'Plex and $75 for the footswitch contingent on > whether Oberheim had changed it's list price. I should also mention that the price I found the 'Plex at was part of a large store-wide sale. One of the guys there said I'd have to wait until the actual sale before I could snag the gear at that price. (As it was a store-wide, three day sale, I anticipated camping out on the front sidewalk early that morning, somehow envisioning imagining hordes of LA musicians eager to snatch up a real-time looper). However, when I went in to try one out, a different sales guy said he could do the sale price right then and there. Even at $500, though, it's still way cheaper than the $879 list price. However, I wouldn't be surprised if the price could be talked down cheaper still... Bye for now, --Andre