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I have my own loop page set up at: http://www.waste.org/~crash/index.html Click on the little [LOOP] and you'll be taken directly to it. Some of the other points at my site, specifically [CRASH] and [ASB] already have sound samples of my stuff you can download, but the loopsite is too new so stay tuned. Let me know what you think. It's got Kim's waycool site as a major point of interest as well as a couple of others (Studio Seventeen among others). I'll be using it as a way to communicate deep mojo knowledge of the Vortex as well as any other hints and info I get, also I'll be talking about the type of rig I have, and hopefully will be another site on the internet devoted to this kind of thing. I'm not going to be going into the history of looping and the pioneers except on a low level - Kim's page will be the Encyclopedia Looptanica, the mother of all loops, that sort of thing - mine will just be a practical application guide for certain types of gear, how to make it work strangely, what's worked for me and stuff that interests me. Check it out if you have the time!