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When I find out more, and gather some experience with it, I'll do a nice writeup for you, Kim. In the meantime, feel free to put my comments on the web page. :} If any of you run across another one of these babies and don't want it, let me know. But I suspect that if you do find one, you'll be snapping it up yourself. That's what *I'd* do! It does two things the JamMan doesn't do that I've really missed. First, it lets you use it as a regular delay, with regular feedback control, and turn on infinite repeat when you like what you have. Second, you can vary the pitch of the content of the delay with the delay time knob. Hee! I used to own a Digitech Two Second Delay, and the controls are similar. The big difference is that the Echotron's sound doesn't suck all the life out of my tone. Yay! -dave By "beauty," I mean that which seems complete. Obversely, that the incomplete, or the mutilated, is the ugly. Venus De Milo. To a child she is ugly. /* dstagner@icarus.leepfrog.com */ -Charles Fort /* http://www.leepfrog.com/~dstagner */