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Kim, I do not own an Echoplex. I do own a JamMan. Given all the neat features I've learned from this list that the 'plex will do, I want one, and will get one as soon as I figure out how to raise the scratch (my wife is still complaining about the Vortex:). The 'plex "troubles" talked about here are, I'm certain, a combination of a new device and technological wizardry - the former takes a certain amount of ironing to get the kinks out, the latter can appear mysterious at times. I greatly appreciate the efforts that you and Matthias (and everyone else, too!, don't feel slighted!) put forth in starting/adding to/maintaining this list. I especially appreciate your good "bedside manner". [OK, no wise cracks!] I hope you find the energy to continue. Thanks, Pat Hickey ***SPH brzrkr@nielsenmedia.com