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Craig Anderton's "Electronic Projects for Musicians" and other books are a great place to start with effects building. You can get his books, and numerous excellent kits by Anderton and others, from PAiA Electronics. They have a very nice online catalog at www.paia.com. Starting with kits will teach you enough to build stuff of your own design later. -dave By "beauty," I mean that which seems complete. Obversely, that the incomplete, or the mutilated, is the ugly. Venus De Milo. To a child she is ugly. -Charles Fort dstagner@icarus.net