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Eric Cook appeared and stated strongly: >We've used a lot of live guitar loops (mainly >from the digitech 8-second sampler pedal), both live and in recording, and >I've been consistently surprised and pleased with the results with both >in-sync and out-sync loops. You are talking about only one machine, being in sync or not with the actual playing of the band, right? >You can wind up with just truly bizarre counter-rhythms, strange >"accidental" harmonies, all sorts of essentially non-reproducible results, >which add both a "seat-of-your-pants" excitment for us as performers, and >new compositional elements that we literally could not have planned out >before hand. And all of this, for me, is a very good thing. >[I suppose I should mention that this is all filtered through the context >of playing in a semi-improv noisy psych/space rock band of sorts, so my >biases should be apparent as to _why_ I consider this to be a good thing. >But I do believe that accepting the "accidents" of looping material has >value and application even outside of that immediate context.] It is certainly exiting for you, but how does a public think about it? Would'nt it be the nicest to be able to "play unexpected" and produce the clima of surprise within a synced rithmical order? (I may be totaly wrong here) >I can discuss particular techniques that have worked for us as a whole, as >well as methods that I use as a drummer for dealing with playing against >non-synced loops if there's any interest. Heck, I may blather about it >even if there's not. :) I you use "methods" don't they end up cuting down the space for the accidents? Probably depends on the kind of methods... give us some more hints! "blather"? No, a speach for over 50 interested specialists.. :-) >Accept the accidents -- there is value in them. Totaly agreed! Thank you for this contribution Matthias