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thanks Eric for the drumming with loops overview - this is definitely something we'd like to have in the "Tips and Tricks" section of the Loop website. (I'll do the porting to Html.) "drumming against loops" reminds me of some of my all-time favorite CDs: the early CDs by Jon Hassell (such as Aka-Darbari-Java). Wonderful sample loops set against slowed down percussion tracks, and they are often rhythmically completely independent, but it sounds just great to me. -Michael