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Eventually (the topic is not new) I came across the little idea following. Matthias, I think, although you changed it to "besides" I think, that theword "Beyond" was perfectly chosen. At first I mistook the sense like almost everyone here. But In fact we have to go beyond -yes- not Fripp, or anyone (I have a strong reoccuring problem with Allan Holdsworth) just because we have to go beyond the part of these people work wwe have internalised (oh, again does it exist, an I making myself clear?). In a way It has nothing to see with those artists, it is just a problem between ourselves and... ourselves! Olivier Malhomme