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De-lurking at last. Greetings to all. First a bit of humour: Kem McNair wrote: P.s. I'll contact ray peck about the killer loops for the cd Yeah, I saw these in an opticians recently, made by Bausch & Lomb. What are they? ;-] ;-] (No, seriously, I did see them. They are in a small black box with a label on the side that says "KILLER LOOP". I don't wear glasses, and the shop is always closed - I'm coming home at 02:00 after doing a radio show, so I have no idea. Does anybody know what these are? Maybe I could find out if not.) Now on to serious stuff. I have been "looping" for nigh on twenty years now, on and off, using the old two open-reel method (ala Frippertronics except I use Tandbergs and do not have the luxury of speed control, but it still works most times). Input sounds are anything that will make a noise, although electronics are best because they don't require mic's. Anyone else out there still in the stone age?:-) I noticed on the web page that there is a list of loopers and info about them, but can't see any way of contributing to it. Is there a special requirement, or am I just missing something? I have an album (vinyl), put out just over ten years ago which contains two tape-delay pieces - one using Mini-Moog, the other with electric guitar. Do people on the list use it to trade product? This would seem to be an obvious application, and is something I am attempting to set up for Elephant Talk, the King Crimson etc. website and forum. So please enlighten me! HAPPY LOOPING! happy looping! happy ........... Jim Bailey