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Floyd wrote: But I guess unless the loop is really killer and irreplaceable, it may not be worth trying to save a 50 second loop via sample dump.. A digital audio recording might be good enough. Floyd, I find it quite practical and decent fidelity. I sometimes use a Dat recorder to save and reuse loops. I simply record the loop to Dat repeating it a few times so on playback I can get myself in sync for initiating record on the Plex or Jamman. Also by having several repeating copies of each loop I can verify how good I synced the copy from Dat back to Looper because after the copy both the Looper and the Dat are playing back simultaneously. If I did a good job syncing it sounds like a single source. If not it flanges, or worse echos. Best of all, it only takes a few reps of the loops to accomplish the dump to Dat and back again, rather than hours. bret