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> I plan to use some unreplaceable pedals in the straight guitar loop and run the VG-8 outputs into a Vortex and stereo mic pre (any suggestions?) to feed a p.a. < I use a Mackie 1202VLZ, love it. My guitar signal goes to an Digitech RP-6 and I use it's cabinet simulator to send a stereo signal to the Mackie. My JamMan is on the Aux 1 out/return loop. Then I use the Aux 2 out to feed a Fender amp. Tape out and in go to my hard disk recording system (Mac with Deck II) Then the main outs got to the PA amplifier It also has a headphone and control room send with a fader. The aux returns have faders also. I also bring in two keyboards and microphones to the Mackie. (It has four XLR inputs with preamps for the first four channels (mono) also each channel has line level 1/4 jack inputs, The last four channels are stereo line/level (no preamps) 1/4 inch inputs) The Mackie was recommended to me by a trumpet player friend who likes the preamps. They are sweet but I like the Mackie for its flexibility. I can control how much of each channel I send to the JamMan with the aux 1 send faders on each channel. Each channel also has three band eq. It's rack mountable if you need that. I'm using mine in a home studio so It's on a desk next to Mac. You can get one for about 310-350 bucks if you check around. I love this mixer. good luck john John Ott Information Technology Manager Alliant Techsystems, Inc. Advanced Technology Applications 401 Defense Highway Annapolis MD 21401 (410) 266 1743