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mathias wrote: > Memory is cheap, what are they thinking? > >Not every delay is a loop machine. In fact all delay machines only serve >for looping in a limited way. Tempo tap helps but does not resolve. > I talked to one of the designers of this delay on the phone a month ago for about two hours about this delay. I'd like to address a few things. first, the impetus for releasing this delay was that the used prices of low-res old delays (pcm-42, timeline, etc) are reaching ridiculous points in big markets. Believe it or not, the pcm42 is widely used in movie post-production, and the hands-on control is the main reason. Second, the reason there is so little memory in this delay is not because Symetrix are stingy, but the DSP which they are using is only capable of addressing a limited amount of memory. In fact, some features had to be taken out to get as much delay time as there is. (in the original sofware, the bit resolution could be set anywhere between 1 and 24!) If the 606 sells well, which it is, Symetrix will (or may already have) start work on a 606 on steroids, to be ready to ship by the end of the year(!). This new machine will posess all the features of the 606 and more. The memory will be upgradeable, there will be a digital output, there will be more parameters. I have recomended that plex/rang features such as undo, multiply, and reverse (the three most important) be implemented, and they have taken me seriously. The list on the 707(?) will be $200 more than the 606. Think: the power of a vortex and two echoplexes with full midi control, full programmability, and 24-bit processing for less than the cost of ONE of Obie's Echoplexes. This is what the looping community has been waiting for. It will not happen, however, unless we go out and buy the 606. If you have a suggestion as far as features of the 707 go, please give Symetrix a call. You will be connected to somebody who knows whats up. As far as I go, I'm still going to buy my two Echoplexes, but salivate over the quadruple loops I could make with two plexes AND a 707. Thanks... ps.If anybody's interested, I put together a tape compilation of local bands which have played at my shows (I put on underground music shows) in May. I have continously mixed my own ambient loops in between each act. The tape (96min long) was professionally duplicated with a full-colour j-card. If anybody wants to buy one they're available for $6 postpaid. -- James Eric Williamson - erwill@ix.netcom.com - erwill@heartland.bradley.edu One of Peoria's most obscure ambient blues musicians