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To Rick, who posted the "Gear" message... I don't have your e-mail address, which got stripped by the mail system we use here. If you really have one of Allan Holdsworth's 30" DeLap guitars for sale, perhaps we should talk? Mail me at bnt@ibm.net, not the address this appears to be coming from! (Lotus Notes X.500 gateway...) Re: looping - any of you lot tried using an answering-machine continuous cassette in a 3-head tape deck? Looping in the raw! (Even more fun if you can temporarily disable the erase head.) Brian Thomson London, UK bnt@ibm.net