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The ground control's midi functions are too limited to control the echoplex. All it can send is program change messages and continuous controllers in a very limited fashion, which doesn't cut it. It can't even treat it's switches as momentary! It is really only meant to handle simple patch changes on effects devices. There are many better pedals out there, most of which are available used for considerably less money. (I got a Digitech pmc-10 for $100, which is quite nice) The echoplex footpedal tutorial on the website explains what a midi controller needs to be able to do for use with the plex. Since many people have apparently been talked in to getting the g.c., we've considered adding a mode to the echoplex software that would allow it to work with program-change-only pedals. This would still be a limited interface and wouldn't give all the intuitive control features in the echoplex's interface, since only a limited amount of info can be conveyed with program change messages. It would also mean violating the midi spec by using program change messages for something other than changing programs, which i'm not real fond of. Not to mention the bad taste of having to change because someone else has the unfortunate bad design/good marketing combo..... amusing aside- I once had a conversation with Mr. Fripp about this pedal...our opinions were about the same, except his were quite a bit stronger since he had actually tried to tour with it...try storing all the ground control's programming in your computer for backup and you'll see what I mean real quick. kim >-- Forgive me if this has been discussed before... >Anyone have any experience controlling the Echoplex with the Ground >Control? Does the GC completely replace the Echoplex's footswitch? >I have version 2.4 of the GC. Thanks in advance for the help. >Dave >********************************************************************* >'Future Perfect' - progressive art music - visit our website at: >http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Lofts/8082 >'Music is a mirror of who we are.' - Robert Fripp ______________________________________________________________________ Kim Flint | Looper's Delight kflint@annihilist.com | http://www.annihilist.com/loop/loop.html http://www.annihilist.com/ | Loopers-Delight-request@annihilist.com