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Hello all, I was happy to see the discussion move away from gear for awhile even tho I'm a big gearhead. However I've got to jump in with my 2 cents.... I once had a Digitech PMC-10. Actually I had five. Sequentually. They were all defective. I still have one now, which doesn't work. I loved the device, I was using it for sending notes, CC info etc. But I didn't have a computer at the time [no back-up] and it had a nasty habit of erasing all the stored programs, and was a real pain to reprogram with the cheesy little "remote". I went to the PMC-10 from an ART X-11, the only MIDI controller I was aware of at the time. VERY limited functionality. I've long needed a controller that could send out different program changes on different MIDI channels. The PMC did this and much else in an elegant manner, but was ultimately useless in the real world... and I'm very gentle with my equipment. I'm now using a Ground Control, and while it won't do all I'd like, I *trust* it. Sorry to be so long-winded about this, but this really touches a nerve with me. Equipment is expensive. The Digitech cost $250 new, which may not be a lot for some, but is a whole lot for others. I will never buy anything else from Digitech, which I realise is probably not fair to them, but I need dependability. If there are other pedals around, does anyone know anything about them? The Jamman must be used with MIDI control, in my opinion. I'd love to have an Echoplex now, but that's out of reach for now. Begging everyone's indulgence.... "Where the artists keep free no other sort or condition of man long remains bound." --Horace Meyer Kallen John Michael Beard http://www.flash.net/~jbstudio