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Bryan wrote<< I would also add that Paul Mimlitsch's recent suggestion to allow audience members to join you on stage and "in loop" , as to improve your relationship with the crowd, is in my experience a very bad tact to take, and will only serve to lessen any respect as a performer you may have managed to establish (assuming it's your gig and not "open stage-loop jam night").>> This suggestion was by way of providing an educational experience and not some kind of "free for all whoever wants to come up on stage can" type of thing. The specific scenario where this took place was as follows.-- I sometimes go to a small local coffeehouse during slow times, such as a Sunday afternoon, and do the ambient fly on the wall type thing for prcatice purposes and to try out new things. This particular establishment, being in a shopping mall, has more of a transient crowd, than say a place where people specifically go to see a "performance". Between doing some loops a kid and his mother came up and inquired about the Chapman Stick I was playing. The discussion progressed to looping and the inevitable "how do you get those sounds?" questions. After some explanation I let her son initiate the tap function on the Jman and took it from there. During my explanation/demonstration to the mother/son about 15 people who had just stopped by to pick up coffee between shopping forays had gathered and instead of getting back to their shopping decided to hang out for another 45 minutes or so and listen/ask questions. So what had started as a simple practice session turned out to be a quite satisfying experience for both "the performer" and the "audience". You could say that initially neither I nor they had planned on taking on the role of performer or audience had it not been for "the kid". You're correct though.. this would not be a good idea in a true "performance" setting for the reasons you mention.--Paul