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As a long time midi user and looper I recently moved over to Logic Audio for a few key reasons (related to looping): Real time tweaking of all sound parmeters without stopping. Cubase has this too. Unique to Logic: A mode in which you can track as many takes as you like in "loop" mode, where the previous takes are muted, and you are automatically moved to the next track, so you have a virtual looper/multi track. After recording all the takes you want, you can unmute, quantize, change sound parameters, etc. without stopping. This feature alone sold me on Logic, despite its reputation as having a steep learning curve. Unfortunately you can't do the same recording with audio, but what audio tracks are already recorded can loop along with the midi. And the sample editor makes it easy to find loops in 'free improvised' material in real time in a similar manner as Recycle does. Any more questions or comments on this, shoot. Neil ngold@imagina.com Portland, OR USA